Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

Here's something additional to consider. This particular point of Naryshkin "stuttering" or "mumbling" was brought up and discussed among some Russian speaking members right after the video was released. I also saw comments of others who saw the video.

Many Russian commenters wrote that Naryshkin's weird behavior was a show for the Western consumption (including their vassals and helpers). That it is nonsensical to presume that Naryshkin would "mumble" in any situation.

Well, I would say it doesn't come across as "acting" to me when Naryshkin "stuttered" or "mumbled". And I don't think, just because he is who he is, that he "wouldn't stutter" or that it "would be very unlikely". It looks to me like what we see is what happened. From my point of view, there are several things that might play into this:

Naryshkin was put under pressure by Putin for what he said. In particular, how he phrased his answer. I guess that the phrase "in the worst case scenario" that Naryshkin used as his opinion on the question of granting Donbass independence/support is what Putin irked there especially. And indeed, I think it is understandable that Putin would find this particular word choice more than a little strange and irksome in that particular situation (with all the context), since from his and any sane person's point of view that particular weird word choice in this situation is kinda strange.

Also, it seemed to me that Putin was irritated by Naryshkin beating around the bush in his answer. Putin wanted more or less a simple and clear yes or no answer to the question if he is for or against granting independence to Donbass at that point. Further, this probably frightened Naryshkin since he would have probably liked to say "no" and fearing the consequences Putin would initiate toward him in response (aka. firing him at best, or making him "disappear"). The fear of "being disappeared" I would suggest is not something that in reality he would have to fear (being fired though!), but he probably believes it, thanks to his delusions about who Putin is and what he will do. It doesn't necessarily mean that Putin isn't actually using such tactics in reality or used them in the past, just that IMO Putin would probably only use the "disappear" method, as the absolutely very last option if no other official/lawful option can possibly be implemented first. Putin might also often capitalize on that fear in his enemies in order to counter them (as explained in one of my last posts, in terms of using the petty tyrant and their tricks and thinking against themselves).

Further, what could have played into it is that Putin was irritated by his answer since they might have all agreed on a common stance beforehand toward the situation before they went on air (to support their independence) and Naryshkin betrayed that promise/agreement (and thereby essentially sticking "a knife in Putin's back") by not really abiding by the agreed route, as soon as he was asked about it in public.

Also, as Putin stated a while ago, there are many things he can forgive, but one thing he can't forgive, namely; Betrayal:





And if you think about it, yes indeed, betrayal belongs to the most unforgivable things or sins a human being can engage in...
 
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I haven't seen it mentioned here but what are the thoughts that this war is egged on by US etc as a way to facilitate the "Global reset" and more importantly the financial and economic system reset. We all know the dollar and economic system have been strained for a while and the amount of damage done over the last two years is unprecedented - perhaps fatal? Inflation in most (all?) developed countries is out of control and multiple systems including the supply chain are buckling. In addition we now have billions of people walking around having been subjected to a gene therapy injection and it's anyone's guess what will happen to these people long-term. They will be a burden to a health system already struggling to deal with the aging population. Western countries are top heavy i.e. the majority of the population are now either in retirement or approaching retirement and pension schemes across the world are underfunded meaning these people will struggle to survive in retirement thereby putting more pressure on social programs. Governments in turn are overloaded with debt to a level never seen before in our history.

You add all the above together and the answer is undeniable, something has to give. In Del Big Tree's latest show he had a guest on who speculated that the math now is such that the system will make more money from a dead person than a live person. He says it used to be that the system will make more money from a live person than a dead person. Okay, what does this mean? He speculates it means chaos, suffering and death.

All the above taken together implies that war may indeed play a prominent role in all these and that indeed we will go into a period where this is the main driver of the disruption and chaos we experience in our lives. Covid hit the west the hardest, will war hit western populations as hard?

We look at Russia and Ukraine in a vacuum i.e. considering this a culmination of what has been happening in that region over the last 8 years BUT could this just be the opening stage to something bigger? Putin in knowing how precarious the whole system is and that indeed it was headed for collapse chose to start a war knowing full well it could be used as the pretext to usher in something that would accelerate the trajectory we were on. I still have a question mark about Russia / Putin ever since I saw the stance on covid and more importantly, the vaccines. Russia could have AND should have developed therapeutics or utilised ivermectin etc as they didn't have to follow the Western way - yet they didn't, why? They aren't stupid to not know stuff like Ivermectin worked better than a dangerous experimental jab. Having said this I know Russia were put in a position where they had to act militarily.

I'm just wary of everything because really we aren't going back to normal and I can't see us going through the next months or years without mass casualties and loss of our way of life. It's kind of scary if you think about it.
 
I see people posting so much desinformation and russian propaganda.
I am ukranian....Western. HAve no words.
Spec-operation yeah.... Bla bla bla..
We in chaos right now and people are dying for no reason. Thats no liberation! Open some UKR telegram channeles and see real peoples video and open your eyes!
I AM here! You know nothing about what is happening right now in the streets: fights , sirens every night.

many years i was member of this site.. but now i see clearly
You are not against evil. You let this lie to be posted here
Thats on you.
No way Earth must be liberated started from our little brave country invaded by russians when you have all the USA UK Switzerland and etc !

Watch this video. Anybody with two firing neurons could see this coming if Ukrainians did not wake up and smell the coffee. Geeze, are you that blind?

 
I still have a question mark about Russia / Putin ever since I saw the stance on covid and more importantly, the vaccines. Russia could have AND should have developed therapeutics or utilised ivermectin etc as they didn't have to follow the Western way - yet they didn't, why? They aren't stupid to not know stuff like Ivermectin worked better than a dangerous experimental jab. Having said this I know Russia were put in a position where they had to act militarily.

You might want to take the following into
consideration:

(Altair, Cosmos, Gawan) Does Putin believe the official corona narrative?

A: No

Q: (Altair, Cosmos, Gawan) If not, has he caved in or is he attempting a long-term strategy behind the scenes in terms of corona?

A: Latter.

Q: (Keit) So far Russia, despite various restrictions, has lower levels of corona craziness in comparison to other countries. Should we expect Russia to catch up also because of low vaccination rates?

(L) Are you asking if Russia is going to have more coronavirus cases because they're not...

(Keit) More corona craziness.

(L) Oh, so are they gonna become more like Western countries because they've been slack so far...

A: No.

And this:

I could be wrong, but I think there is a possibility that one of Putins long term strategies is trying to be able to make russia completely independent of the west (if needed) economically and otherwise, thereby creating a situation where they can safely "not follow along" with things like the "pandemic" and other things the PTB are planning if they need to. So far they can't do that since that order is too tall. And I think what happened the last days might be one of the major steps towards this long term goal. I also think that the close cooperation together with china and others via the Silk Road, military and other things might be steps they have taken a while ago to get closer to this goal. Basically setting up a completely independent system that can't be threatened or taken down by the west (but can work with them if they want), thereby enabling them to "not go along" with things like the pandemic more or less safely. That's a tall order though and it stands to question if Putin can pull that off.
 
Putin in knowing how precarious the whole system is and that indeed it was headed for collapse chose to start a war knowing full well it could be used as the pretext to usher in something that would accelerate the trajectory we were on. I still have a question mark about Russia / Putin ever since I saw the stance on covid and more importantly, the vaccines. Russia could have AND should have developed therapeutics or utilised ivermectin etc as they didn't have to follow the Western way - yet they didn't, why? They aren't stupid to not know stuff like Ivermectin worked better than a dangerous experimental jab. Having said this I know Russia were put in a position where they had to act militarily.

I'm just wary of everything because really we aren't going back to normal and I can't see us going through the next months or years without mass casualties and loss of our way of life. It's kind of scary if you think about it.
Putin as part of the system, why not, who knows ?
 
This is definitely not the Russian Caliber - they fly slower and the explosion is much more powerful, the house would simply have folded to the widow.

Most likely it was an air defense projectile of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, fired from an air defense system. (Yesterday, the Ukrainian army decided to place anti-aircraft missile systems in residential areas).
The Armed Forces of Ukraine, it seems, tried to shoot down the missiles flying at the Zhuliany airfield, but they did not succeed because of the high-rise buildings standing nearby.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine shoot at their own people everywhere, only in a day they hit (https://t.me/RVvoenkor/1659) from MANPADS on their own MiG-29, shot down their Su-27, at night they staged a "judgment day" in the center of Kyiv (https: //t.me/RVvoenkor/1623)" with shootings after Zelensky decided to distribute 20,000 machine guns to the locals.
 
I haven't seen it mentioned here but what are the thoughts that this war is egged on by US etc as a way to facilitate the "Global reset" and more importantly the financial and economic system reset.ind of scary if you think about it.

This war comes at the most convenient time for our beloved "PTB". Even if we dont count the distraction from vaccination "effects" in, which seem to start to be recognized now, the war comes at the perfect time to end the current FIAT money system. Did take a lot longer than i did expect.
 

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