My thoughts exactly.
Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine
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In fact, you (we, those who are from Russia) have not lost much if your twitter is blocked.
I see that these guys (twitter) have completely lost their objectivity and are pushing the propaganda of the West (EU and US) as much as possible.
In any case, you can access twitter not only through vpn, but also through TOR. Here is the site - Tor Relay Scan, where TOR bridges are published, those that work NOW and are not blocked in Russia.
In the TOR browser settings, you need to manually add a bridge (for example, 185.220.102.241:443 58BC2CFFA7894FC8F4CC5D8A77E38FDCFDB1DC0E) and make a connection. Thus, you will be able to read almost all resources that are blocked in the Russian Federation.
My bold prediction tells me that this is just the tip of the iceberg for the not-too-distant economic cyberwar. Which the elites will take advantage of to put a definitive siege on the internet and control everything that is said. Absolute censorship.
As a Bulgarian I am not sure those aging MiGs are combat ready. My country is essentially defenseless even with the little we have that can fly and fight without breaking down in mid air. I think such is the case with Poland, but I can't speak for them. Never received orders from NATO nor from EU to send equipment to Ukraine.Neither Bulgaria or Poland are sending their jets to Ukraine like the EU promised
Metrist
The Living Force
I was wondering about the new technologies that might be used in war.
Like the mobile communications in each vehicle, recon drones, stuff like that. And seeing the ways drones could be coordinated with computer guidance, what it could do on the battlefield.
Recon being an obvious application. What else? Maybe small payloads of explosives? Maybe, but it would have to use large drones.
So, given that the Russians targeted biological facilities, the pairing of drones and biological weapons would be quite a threat - especially in the midst of a pandemic of questionable origin.
And that America is said to have something to do with these facilities, knowing what they would do by seeing their previous aggressions, Putin couldn't allow this. And this is why Biden conceeded even before Russia's actions. Maybe?
'No America would never do that!' But you see, they'd have a plausible ruse to hide behind, and no one would be the wiser.
And Russia would keep a lid on it, because it is like a poor mans weapon.
Like the mobile communications in each vehicle, recon drones, stuff like that. And seeing the ways drones could be coordinated with computer guidance, what it could do on the battlefield.
Recon being an obvious application. What else? Maybe small payloads of explosives? Maybe, but it would have to use large drones.
So, given that the Russians targeted biological facilities, the pairing of drones and biological weapons would be quite a threat - especially in the midst of a pandemic of questionable origin.
And that America is said to have something to do with these facilities, knowing what they would do by seeing their previous aggressions, Putin couldn't allow this. And this is why Biden conceeded even before Russia's actions. Maybe?
'No America would never do that!' But you see, they'd have a plausible ruse to hide behind, and no one would be the wiser.
And Russia would keep a lid on it, because it is like a poor mans weapon.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
Ukrainian military is a bunch of low lives.
The civilians are catching on to what they are doing. Someone in that film says that the basement is full of children, suggesting that the military is also making them a target.
This Military is a bunch of Scum !!!!
dennis
Dagobah Resident
As talk about messaging systems has equalled or exceeded military strategies it may be helpful to be alert to symbolic messages. We may eventually see who really stands on the moral high ground.
Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, leads a meeting on on economic issues in Moscow, Russia, Monday, Feb. 28, 2022. (Alexei Nikolsky, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP)
Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, leads a meeting on on economic issues in Moscow, Russia, Monday, Feb. 28, 2022. (Alexei Nikolsky, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP)
dredger
The Living Force
Off topic but in case you are not anymore allow to browse a website there is the solution to use a free web proxy.
In order to limit noise i put the explanation in "spoiler" mode, so read it only if you need it :)
In order to limit noise i put the explanation in "spoiler" mode, so read it only if you need it :)
If you can't connect to some websites, try one of the 17 listed web-proxy, if you find one which is not too slow, this can be helpfull to visit some sites you are not allowed anymore. Note that you can often choose the location (country) of the proxy, and of course, if this country is censored, the proxy located in this country will not be able to reach the site you want to reach ...
Here's the list : 17 Best Free Anonymous Proxy Sites & Browsers (2022)
(you can find other by searching on duckduckgo for "free web proxy"
I tried a few, for instance the following one (number 13, Hide.me) :
... there are 3 choices of location : Netherland, Germany, Finland. I tried the site of the Saker first with Finland : TimeOut, then Germany : TimeOut but it was ok for Netherland. Note that i tried again later with Finland and it worked, it's probably because the Saker site is overcharged.
I tried the 9th one (Filterbypass.me) and it seems to be working.
Well in summary, try to find one which works with some website you try to reach, find a combination that works.
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(you can find other by searching on duckduckgo for "free web proxy"
I tried a few, for instance the following one (number 13, Hide.me) :
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I tried the 9th one (Filterbypass.me) and it seems to be working.
Well in summary, try to find one which works with some website you try to reach, find a combination that works.
I also would like to hear more of your perspective Purple Grape. This forum is not about binary opposition fighting it out, nor is it a place where any intelligent, considerate, alternative view should be repressed through fear of unhealthy kickback. We all come here for sanity and support for one another not to win battles or, god forbid, believe our own BS! So please do share.
And I know these times are intensely stressful but please can we all remember this is not Twitter, or Facebook, there are no winners and losers here, no room for soap boxes and cancel culture! This is a time of mass insanity as we all should have expected what we are witnessing as a natural follow on from the Covid cult - let's not become just another victim of the same inevitable, necessary malaise. The time of melt down ahead of the emergence of the true light coming through was always going to be a challenge for us all. Lets hold the line together please, come what may.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
Nice finds thorbiorn !!!
That poster is a hit for me because it so well fits into the narrative of how a small group of people has forced for some time the Ukrainian ship of State to sail like a bunch of lunatics (Azov/Pravy Sektor/C14 ...) were its captain. Yeh, they are fighting for a Culture, a culture Davos Schwab is interested in, full on fascist control of the population
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This feels worse than Covid. No one is questioning the Western news where I am. It's Putin is a monster, GUILTY as charged! We've found the bogeyman that gets all others off Scot free in the western world.
I snapped a little at work today just keeping calm enough to explain with clarity. My colleagues were calling Putin out. War monger, power crazed mad man etc etc etc, genocide! Anyway gave a bit of history about NATO/Russia. Then went on to tell them about 2014 and what's been going on since in the breakaway regions with the constant shelling and deaths.
Met with deathly silence and seven people stared at me blankly.
No one is questioning the narrative. Time for some strategic enclosure. Strange times indeed.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
US has military in Poland and other states !!! Why are they shying away ????
That "flank" is looking like a bunch of wank.
U.S. F-15 fighter jets land in Poland, says minister
American F-15 jets landed at a Polish air base on Thursday, Warsaw's defence minister said, as NATO beefs up the military presence on its eastern flank amid tensions over a standoff between Ukraine and Russia.
Want to see how the West supported that small small fringe group of Nazis ? Here is is
Some thought from Poland.
Main stream is bombarding Poland with news about Ukrainian war. Unfortunately programming as I speak with my acquaintances is/was successful in depicting Putin and Russia as crazy aggressor.
New history is being created right now - however again with false cause of the war origin.
Most of the people I know are convinced about power hunger of President Putin.
This being put as main cause of the war.
When such conviction is installed it is extremely hard to discuss with person who believes it.
Politics becomes very emotional and the mind is gone.
First of all it is hard to discuss with beliefs in general. Other is same hard to prove that this conviction is valid the same as it is hard to prove that it is not valid when the only source are our media where we cannot hear original words said by not only Russian politicians but I may say most of important messages are being forwarded and interpreted already.
I do not blame Poles as this situation lasts for years and fact of not being even interested in finding own understanding opposed to eating everything from the media plate is not particularly special in this case. A lot of poeple want to support "good" how ironic, and they want to do some good but how to do good when one believes lies?
I see among my acquaintances however that there are people who do not fall for the official rhetoric and this is somehow related to the attitude toward the most popular disease in the world, not always but I see some relations.
Here there is also simple mathematics when it comes to business. It was harder with covid in that respect becasue covid is invisible. But losing contracts and money in trade with Russia is much more telling than fever from covid.
I have a feeling that opposing covid propaganda was just a little kids play in comparison to what is being served right now.
Specialists from winding up emotions are working hard - I imagine.
I laughed today when I heard like one of our acquaintances discussing situation in Ukraine said to his pals in provocative tone: if You want to support sanctions against Russia then make Your own commitment and do not buy gasoline for Your car and do not use gas for heating Your apartment.
Today I have sent email to school of my kids after they posted on facebook on their official site Ukrainian flag and solidarity with Ukraine. I put on my email that I prefer that in such situations school remains as neutral as possible and if they already expressed their likes they should make it first of all understandable for kids as they do not understand why teachers are supporting one side and the other not. My daughter came back from school and told me that she was learning today anthem of Russia. I said: hmm interesting but it would be rather strange in current situation. Then she found on Youtube anthem which was in fact Ukrainian. She asked who is "Puting" :) as she probably was intrested for the first time in her life about foreign politics (8 year old) and why there is a war. I tried to explain to her that what she see and hear from media and other people is more complicated that it seams and that it is sometimes hard to explain how and why we are lied to from our TV and radio and why good people may believe in lies. Anyway we have now open topic of manipulation and politics. Same with my son. He is 14 and we had already long discussion about history of Ukraine, Poland and Russia. From time to time we are comming back to our difficult relations and how they were possibly created. What is the role of UK and USA in our history and for example France and UK in Ukraine. Picture is not as simple as it is depicted in school books.
Anyway we are flooded by "common" conviction that again, Poles need to stand against Russian aggression and this brings to my mind that somebody wants to drain some blood and dig even bigger division between Russia and Ukraine and Russia and Poland, so big that centuries will not be able to cover it.... exageration but it feels so to me as people are too emotional so they are like stupid sheeple.
For the time being there is not much on Youtube (which is my main source of daily news) in Polish that would be showing other side. One is Maciej Maciak on Youtube and one is Dawid Hudziec on facebook and probably thats it that I know. On Saturday / Sunday we found one American on Youtube who lives in Donbas and makes news and one British Graham Maxwel who also makes some news from the other side.
You know even for some healthy balance I would like to know how the other side thinks, feels, sees etc. I miss it completely in this bloody main stream. The fact that they play only one song is also telling but again hard to use it as strong argument.
My three cents.
And if You know some independent on facebook or YT I would appreciate link.
Greetings to all!
Michal
Main stream is bombarding Poland with news about Ukrainian war. Unfortunately programming as I speak with my acquaintances is/was successful in depicting Putin and Russia as crazy aggressor.
New history is being created right now - however again with false cause of the war origin.
Most of the people I know are convinced about power hunger of President Putin.
This being put as main cause of the war.
When such conviction is installed it is extremely hard to discuss with person who believes it.
Politics becomes very emotional and the mind is gone.
First of all it is hard to discuss with beliefs in general. Other is same hard to prove that this conviction is valid the same as it is hard to prove that it is not valid when the only source are our media where we cannot hear original words said by not only Russian politicians but I may say most of important messages are being forwarded and interpreted already.
I do not blame Poles as this situation lasts for years and fact of not being even interested in finding own understanding opposed to eating everything from the media plate is not particularly special in this case. A lot of poeple want to support "good" how ironic, and they want to do some good but how to do good when one believes lies?
I see among my acquaintances however that there are people who do not fall for the official rhetoric and this is somehow related to the attitude toward the most popular disease in the world, not always but I see some relations.
Here there is also simple mathematics when it comes to business. It was harder with covid in that respect becasue covid is invisible. But losing contracts and money in trade with Russia is much more telling than fever from covid.
I have a feeling that opposing covid propaganda was just a little kids play in comparison to what is being served right now.
Specialists from winding up emotions are working hard - I imagine.
I laughed today when I heard like one of our acquaintances discussing situation in Ukraine said to his pals in provocative tone: if You want to support sanctions against Russia then make Your own commitment and do not buy gasoline for Your car and do not use gas for heating Your apartment.
Today I have sent email to school of my kids after they posted on facebook on their official site Ukrainian flag and solidarity with Ukraine. I put on my email that I prefer that in such situations school remains as neutral as possible and if they already expressed their likes they should make it first of all understandable for kids as they do not understand why teachers are supporting one side and the other not. My daughter came back from school and told me that she was learning today anthem of Russia. I said: hmm interesting but it would be rather strange in current situation. Then she found on Youtube anthem which was in fact Ukrainian. She asked who is "Puting" :) as she probably was intrested for the first time in her life about foreign politics (8 year old) and why there is a war. I tried to explain to her that what she see and hear from media and other people is more complicated that it seams and that it is sometimes hard to explain how and why we are lied to from our TV and radio and why good people may believe in lies. Anyway we have now open topic of manipulation and politics. Same with my son. He is 14 and we had already long discussion about history of Ukraine, Poland and Russia. From time to time we are comming back to our difficult relations and how they were possibly created. What is the role of UK and USA in our history and for example France and UK in Ukraine. Picture is not as simple as it is depicted in school books.
Anyway we are flooded by "common" conviction that again, Poles need to stand against Russian aggression and this brings to my mind that somebody wants to drain some blood and dig even bigger division between Russia and Ukraine and Russia and Poland, so big that centuries will not be able to cover it.... exageration but it feels so to me as people are too emotional so they are like stupid sheeple.
For the time being there is not much on Youtube (which is my main source of daily news) in Polish that would be showing other side. One is Maciej Maciak on Youtube and one is Dawid Hudziec on facebook and probably thats it that I know. On Saturday / Sunday we found one American on Youtube who lives in Donbas and makes news and one British Graham Maxwel who also makes some news from the other side.
You know even for some healthy balance I would like to know how the other side thinks, feels, sees etc. I miss it completely in this bloody main stream. The fact that they play only one song is also telling but again hard to use it as strong argument.
My three cents.
And if You know some independent on facebook or YT I would appreciate link.
Greetings to all!
Michal
Indeed. Context is everything, and social media posts in general usually almost always have a big lack of context. Now, with the situation at hand, context is even more important. A situation like this is rather chaotic by nature and things can change at any point, so it is very easy to come to wrong conclusions if you judge things simply by social media posts without any context. On top of that comes a deliberate propaganda campaign where false information (and information totally lacking in context) is being put out like crazy, especially from the west.
Indeed.
Yes. The Kremlin website still isn't available either, and started to become unavailable shortly after things got hot: http://en.kremlin.ru/
That's rather unfortunate since that is the main source that can tell us what Putin and really do and say (transcript of speeches and mettings etc.).
Yes they have. Refer back to the two speeches Putin has made recently.
For now, I would suggest to be very careful, stay at home and only leave the house if absolutely necessary.... Also, be aware that the Ukraine Military is catching males and force them to fight for them against the russians.
