question about AIDS, cancer .

[Buddy]

iloveyoghurt, this goes along with what Leo40 is saying. You might find it interesting. It seems to, at least, strengthen the case for internal Work and emotional cleansing through the EE program. :)

In German New Medicine, diseases have a biological meaning and are not mistakes of nature. In fact, we can now categorize most of the diseases known to medicine in pairs of events. These pairs are actually programs of nature relating psychological and biological events.
...
After twenty years of research and therapy with over 31,000 patients, Dr. Hamer finally established firmly, logically and empirically how biological conflict-shock results in a cold cancerous or necrotic phase and how, if the conflict is resolved, the cancerous or necrotic process is reversed to repair the damage and return the individual to health.
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Dr. Hamer prefers to keep theory to a minimum and grounds all his observations and conclusions on hard, rock-solid empirical evidence...
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A biological conflict-shock - called a DHS (Dirk Hamer Syndrome in honour of his son) - causes the appearance of a focus of activity in the brain - called an HH (Hamerschenherd). This set of concentric rings that can be seen in a computerized tomography scan (CT) is centred on a precise point of the brain. The location of the focus depends on the nature of the shock-conflict or conflict contents. As soon as the HH appears, the organ controlled by that specific brain centre registers a functional transformation. This transformation can manifest as a growth, as tissue loss or as a loss of function.

Dr. Hamer further discovered that the program that is initiated after a conflict-shock is dependent on the layer of the brain that is affected, something to be understood and explained from the point of view of evolution. The system makes sense both from a phylogenetic and an ontogenetic point of view. Dr. Hamer prefers to keep theory to a minimum and grounds all his observations and conclusions on hard, rock-solid empirical evidence, so we will be referring to ontogenesis in this summary.

For man and mammal, the oldest conflicts originate from the brain stem and result in cancerous growths - tumours. The resolution of these conflicts leads to a breakdown of the tumour and restoration of health. The old brain controls the organs of the endoderm, the innermost germ layer in our organism. This was the first system to appear in the embryo, later to be covered by the mesoderm and the ectoderm over several million years of evolution.

All diseases start with a cold phase, activity of the parasympathetic nervous system predominates, the shock is a constant preoccupation, nights seem long, extremities are cold and meanwhile the organ lesion extends. With the brain stem (the old-brain - controller of the endodermal organs), a tumour is growing. If and when there is a conflict resolution or lysis (CL), the process will be reversed. The HH in the brain begins to heal, as does the organ. All physicians know that healing is accompanied by oedema. The oedema that develops around the focus ring in the brain becomes visible on X-rays or CT's and is usually misdiagnosed as a brain tumour. Dr. Hamer has firmly established that brain tumours do not exist in the traditional sense. All so-called brain tumours are oedematous HH’s, the oedema remaining until healing of the tissue, after which the oedema is reabsorbed and final healing is complete. The oedematous nodes in the brain are concentrations of glia --neuroglia-- used to repair the brain and neural tissue, not only in the brain, but also in many tissues. When healing is complete, after the healing crisis, the oedematous node is pressed out, a diuretic phase eliminates excess liquid from the organism and normal health is re-established.

The warm phase is the healing stage of disease, what we usually identify as infectious disease. During this stage, the transformations of the first stage are reversed. Cancers are broken down or encapsulated (depending on whether or not the microbes needed for caseating the tumour are available to the organism). Necroses or ulcers are filled up again. The filling of necroses or ulcers also tends to be misdiagnosed as accelerated highly malignant growths. Nothing is further from the truth, affirms Dr. Hamer, after several thousand successful cases of healing and restoration of health for terminally ill patients.

The cerebellum and the cerebral medulla control the mesoderm. Organs controlled by the cerebellum show tumours -- growths, cell multiplication in the conflict active phase and, as with the endoderm, tumour destruction in the healing stage. Mesodermal organs controlled by the cerebral medulla show ulcerations and necroses in the conflict active phase and cell-multiplication during healing. All the organs and tissues of the ectoderm, controlled by the cerebral cortex, the latest of the dermal layers in ontogenesis and phylogenesis, show ulceration or functional loss during the conflict active phase. Conflict resolution brings on tissue repair and restoration of functional loss.
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With the exception of diseases caused by malnutrition, lack of clean water, poisoning and trauma, German New Medicine explains the mechanism of every single disease known to mankind.
Source: _http://www.newmedicine.ca/overview.php

 

[anart]

As is apparent from previous postings, my particular curiosity lies in the psychological component of my journey. There really is so very many ideas around the physical when it comes to illness, and while I understand this, as well as respect that it is important to take care of "the machine"....

The bolded part imo is the important one because all illness of the body originates at the psychological
level and/or higher. Psychological conflict, if not resolved, invariably leads to the expression of dis-ease
in the body.
When my brother inlaw was treated for a melanoma his doctor asked him if her had recently suffered
a psychological shock. I found it remarkable that mainstream medicine is aware of this.
In his case this was indeed fact.

There is always a psychological component to disease. The real question here is what is the psychological component of 'iloveyoghurt' that is causing her to refuse to adjust her diet in order to get healthy? Make no mistake - all the psychological/energetic health in the world won't make a difference if one fills ones machine with poison day in and day out and refuses to look at it. In fact, psychological/energetic health would make such a situation impossible, because a psychologically/energetically clean and healthy person would be able to put two and two together and see the obvious connection between food ingested and disease! Considering the user name 'iloveyoghurt', the irony here seems to have no end.

 

[go2]

As is apparent from previous postings, my particular curiosity lies in the psychological component of my journey.......

Well, a good place to focus attention would be the "closed loop" of your psyche. You are a great example of "perpetual motion" of the self sustaining psyche allowing no new information to enter the mind.

It is apparent to me that, when a person is ill, the mind becomes fearful and consumed with survival of the self. So much so, and with such intensity that, the person can come to think very much more of their own needs, perhaps rather than that of others. Of course this is natural, but it is that there is a certain edge to it, that piqued my suspicion, the person becomes trapped and locked into this loop of focus. I have so far gathered from this that, if there was any employable technique to engage the predator mind for long periods, illness is clearly one very effective means.

No, it is not apparent to you, iloveyoghurt. Your self lies entirely within the thinking mind. The suffering body cries out for recognition and inclusion in your being. We are three centered beings. If three centers are not connected and balanced in the life of a man or woman, the neglected aspects sink into the unconscious, and cry out in the dark with mental, social, or physical disease.

The dietary and breathing exercises are suggested as a method to balance and connect your being. The suggestions our based on our experience. We recognize the "predators mind" consuming your life and potential to grow in the image of God. I suggest you read your quote above as your higher self describing iloveyohgurt gripped by a predator from the depths of the cosmos.

I hope these hard words help. :)

 

[davey72]

hey, Felipe4 - regarding the topic of AIDS, i can highly recommend the documentary "House Of Numbers: Anatomy Of an Epidemic".

this should clear up many worries/questions about AIDS.

i posted about here:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18808.msg178862#msg178862

Has anyone else seen this?

I haven't found anything the c's may have said on this subject.

seems that its not the virus that causes "AIDS" so much as the drugs they give you to combat it.

 

[iloveyoghurt]

Anart and all that are assuming this -

1. I am not refusing to adjust my diet. If I wished to address specifically dietary and heath (of the body) concerns I would've posted in the health section(!) My diet is another issue entirely

I am, in this posting, looking to engage in discussion on things excluding dietary and health. Why? Not because I reject the dietary advice, NO, it is because I am not short of information and knowledge in this area - there is a freaking abundance of it.

I am seeking to explore, via discussion and sharing ideas, in an area where there is less information to be found.



2. I am, in this posting, not looking for healing or diagnosis from random people here as to why I have the disease (thanks anyway). I am looking to engage in discussion in areas that exclude dietary and health, but that are esoteric. Things that others in similar condition, have also found themselves pondering on, along such an extraordinary journey.



Finally, because I love yoghurt doesn't meant that I live on it - or otherwise!!!!!!!!!

 

[iloveyoghurt]

That's really very interesting Bud! Thanks a lot for sharing!

 

[davey72]

Ya, i guess i just assumed that because of all the high profile people that he talked to.
Could be disinfo, but it just seemed to make sense when i watched it.

 

[anart]

Anart and all that are assuming this -

1. I am not refusing to adjust my diet. If I wished to address specifically dietary and heath (of the body) concerns I would've posted in the health section(!) My diet is another issue entirely

I am, in this posting, looking to engage in discussion on things excluding dietary and health. Why? Not because I reject the dietary advice, NO, it is because I am not short of information and knowledge in this area - there is a freaking abundance of it.

I am seeking to explore, via discussion and sharing ideas, in an area where there is less information to be found.



2. I am, in this posting, not looking for healing or diagnosis from random people here as to why I have the disease (thanks anyway). I am looking to engage in discussion in areas that exclude dietary and health, but that are esoteric. Things that others in similar condition, have also found themselves pondering on, along such an extraordinary journey.



Finally, because I love yoghurt doesn't meant that I live on it - or otherwise!!!!!!!!!

iloveyoghurt, you're reacting very emotionally to the responses you've received, so it really would be best if you could step back for a moment and get some perspective. May I ask if you've completely removed gluten and dairy from your diet?

The point here is that disease is not about 'one thing' and you can't really restrict any conversation on this forum to what you want it to be. If anyone asks about disease, we point to diet - it is elementary. If you are unhappy with this forum or how this conversation has proceeded, you are more than welcome to go to another forum and discuss things there.

 

[iloveyoghurt]

Yes you are right Anart, I am acting emotionally, and can become a bit dramatic. I haven't yet found my way to divert my attention from peoples posts that have read me incorrectly. It appears that I become flustered by the perceived confusion, and so many responses from all directions. It's chaos - Ahhh!!!

What would probably be more effective and productive for all I was thinking, is to mainly focus on the ones that are compatible to my interest at the time. Cannot possibly respond to all!!

Very good.

 

[Gonzo]

Hi iloveyoghurt.

I understand your frustration and emotional response. We have seen it a thousand times. It comes from someone who's expectations are not being met and the child inside is having a tantrum. It is natural to feel you have not been listened to and understood. It is natural to feel you are being pushed in a direction you did not intend or anticipate. This forum is not normal.
You will not be given a direct answer to a direct question if it is felt to not be in your best interest. This is what caring people do, once they have gotten beyond their own social programming.

There are all sorts of forums out there that will tell you whatever it is you want to hear. That won't happen here. We care too much for you and anyone else who may happen upon this thread.

You claim to only be interested in a single dynamic of cancer and want to filter out the other information that you say don't interest you.

Perhaps you should assess why you have decided to only be interested in specific, limited aspects of a disease that is known to be complex and multi-faceted.

Perhaps you have assumptions that your diet is already immaculate and doesn't play a role in disease. Perhaps you feel you already have sufficient knowledge in the dietary subject area. I've never met a wise person who said they knew too much and didn't want to know more.

Laura's story of the Iowan farmer was the very same story I was thinking about when I was reading your posts. It appears that because you have preconceived notions of what is important, you seem throw away the other aspects, saying you aren't interested.

This is like someone who prays to have a guru placed in their life's path so they can better understand the mysteries of life. The next day he meets a great variety of people but never meets his guru and decides his prayers weren't answered.

Often objective truths aren't what one anticipates and are unfortunately rejected.

I pray you consider that you cannot separate the mind from the spirit nor from the body. And the body can develop disease for many reasons but rarely a single reason.

If we were so fragile we would not have survived as long as our species has. We are for more complex than that.

The universe, through this forum, has sent you clear indications that your frame of reference needs adjusting otherwise you will never hear the answers that are right and only hear the ones you want to hear.

The connection between diet and disease is well established as is the connection between diet and psychology. Even if you clear out all of your psychological issues your diet can still kill you if you aren't knowledgeable enough. Considerable research has been performed and is ongoing in many areas of health on this forum, including diet. You are looking at the sum of thousands of man hours reading hundreds of thousand of man hours of independent research and graciously sharing the sum knowledge on this forum. The time and effort put into research here makes the time spent conversing with the Cs seem quite minuscule by comparison. We live on facts and develop fact based hypotheses. The Cs may give direction or information but it is never considered a fact. The facts tell us you cannot separate diet from disease.

Please reconsider the reason why you have decided what is interesting to your pursuits and consider that there may be a part of you resisting the objective truths that may in fact be much more important than your preconceptions allow.

Finally, this thread will be read by many in the future who may be more open minded than you are currently allowing yourself to be. The responses provided to you are as important for you as they are for those who will come upon this thread in the future.

Gonzo

 

[Vulcan59]

Gonzo, I couldn't have put it any better. Thank you.

 

[Gonzo]

Oh, I forgot to add:

If you are feeling overwhelmed at having to reply to all of the comments you have received, how about just express your gratitude in a single post to everyone who have taken time and energy to answer you, acknowledging their generosity and caring concern?

It might save you some energy so you can focus your effort into synthesizing that which has been given you free of charge, no strings attached.
If you put the same amount of energy that was invested in you toward considering what you have received as beneficial, and hopefully put information into action, you might be able to balance the energies involved in this thread.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to pay it forward and share whatever insight you gain here with others either here or beyond.

Just a thought.

Gonzo

 

[Hildegarda]

I am, in this posting, looking to engage in discussion on things excluding dietary and health. Why? Not because I reject the dietary advice, NO, it is because I am not short of information and knowledge in this area - there is a freaking abundance of it.

I am seeking to explore, via discussion and sharing ideas, in an area where there is less information to be found.

Is there are really less information on this?

You have said in a one of the previous posts that you have explored the avenue of psychological reasons for your disease extensively:

Being aware of the possibilities for me, from my childhood, I have done all I know to do to combat the effects, such as yoga, meditation, positive thinking, acupuncture, not dwelling on the past but creating a new life for myself. I have been in therapy, prayed, fasted, I swim, and read continually to keep myself informed, as well as have educated myself for various career paths

So, either this didn't work for you, or you really didn't fully apply on what you already have discovered:

The cycle seems to continue no matter what I do (!), including getting into relationships where I cannot seem to defend myself from conflict - I just shut down and the more I cannot, the more it occurs

I live at the moment with my 'partner' of two years of whom it has seemed, is another walk-in for me into a situation of awful abuse and conflict.

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is useless.

It is better to look where you haven't looked before. The diet is the natural choice because it is the very basis of our existence. The other choice is actually following up on what you already know, i.e., detoxifying your mind and soul by cutting off toxic relationships, as in, "just say no to drugs". Making your body stronger with a proper diet will help you with that too.

 

[truth seeker]

I recently had tests, and a new big blob has appeared on my lungs -this time. I had cancer when I was 23, again at 30ish, and now after just getting over the one at 30ish, they find a new one on Monday. I am 39 yo.

My life as I see it in my darkest times, has been one ongoing panic for survival - from domestic abuse as a child, to wondering around on my own, seeking secure and safe shelter - I see that the precedent was sent at an early age. I have managed to study much, and am close to having an independent source of income, via running my business. I live at the moment with my 'partner' of two years of whom it has seemed, is another walk-in for me into a situation of awful abuse and conflict. With little energy left for getting well, as I am ongoingly on hyper-alert, and high anxiety. I have concern for my body and immune system that may never get a chance to develop the strength it requires.

With no place ever to go - no family, no way out, I put my head in the oven last night. Funny, but it is the most painless way to go.

What is happening to me? What is my story? What can I do? Am I 'supposed' to die? Is this attack?

If you read this as a cry for help, you are correct. I am all out of ideas. I have attempted to put this question out as a request to the Cs before, and was met with chaos that left me confused. But I put it out again - is it possible to open for discussion with the Cs more about illness? I ask for me and all who are ill and may otherwise not have the energy to direct this question.

Well, it was mainly this post I was responding to. I did a search for Louise Hays to see what she had to say regarding lungs and cancer. Here's what she had to say:

CANCER: What's eating at you? Deep hurt, secret or grief.

LUNG PROBLEMS: Depression, grief or fear of life. Not feeling worthy.

These two dovetail with regards to grief. Perhaps you are still grieving the abuse you suffered as a child. Even though you've been to therapy, it still seems as though you may not have let go of your past anger and sadness. One further clue to this is that from your account above that you may still be reliving patterns developed in childhood.

So what is happening to you is that your body may be rebelling because of this and is trying to let you know that something(s) has/have to change. This is probably stating the obvious.

Your story I would say is probably not much different from others in that you've suffered narcissistic wounding. This wounding is one of the ways that sts works through us. It can keep us repeating patterns that serve to weaken and distract us from being able to do our best work. We stay stuck in the negative introject when we fail to see the objective truth around us. While it is not easy, we can overcome it little by little with help from others.

What you can do has been discussed to some extent already. If you wish to, you can go further in terms of revisiting your past and seeing how your reaction to it plays out in your life currently. You're more than welcome to do this in the swamp if you'd like.

Whether you are "supposed" to die is not something easily determined. One can say that when someone does not choose to or forgets to act in their own best interests that they have made that choice in some form. If someone has done everything they can and still dies, perhaps they have learned all possible lessons in this incarnation. I could die today. What does that mean? To me, it doesn't matter so much as what was I DOing before I died.

Determining whether something is an attack can be difficult. While it can be technically viewed that way in this instance, be clear that an attack can only work if we allow it to. In all instances, we have to make a choice as to how we respond to it. Even when we think we have done everything, we must still question ourselves if this is indeed the case. Had everything been tried to it's fullest extent.

You don't have to be a victim of your life. While you may have felt helpless in the face of your abuser(s) as a child, you no longer need to view yourself that way. Whatever you did as a child to survive that situation no longer serves you as an adult.

ANXIETY / NERVOUSNESS: Distrust the natural flow of life.

As a child suffering abuse, you may have learned to not trust your own feelings, others and life in general as you never knew what was coming next. Because of our narcissistic wounding, I think we all end up with some form of trust issue eventually whether we don't trust enough or trust too much/easily. Know that you can trust us when we take the time to post. We do so in your best interest. While it may be difficult to believe when you have been taught from a young age that this wasn't safe to do, it is true as far as this forum goes. This is part of the new world we are trying to create.

As is apparent from previous postings, my particular curiosity lies in the psychological component of my journey. There really is so very many ideas around the physical when it comes to illness, and while I understand this, as well as respect that it is important to take care of "the machine", I have also observed along my journey that in many circumstances this focus on the body becomes rather obsessive. So much so, that somewhere along the line this raised suspicion for me, and I began to ponder whether illness is a kind of psycho/spiritual 'trap' in the physical. These ideas came to me before I found the Cs ideas, and I was amazed and relieved at how similar the concepts were, and just loved being able to explore further in this area, when I did come across the Cs stuff.

It is apparent to me that, when a person is ill, the mind becomes fearful and consumed with survival of the self. So much so, and with such intensity that, the person can come to think very much more of their own needs, perhaps rather than that of others. Of course this is natural, but it is that there is a certain edge to it, that piqued my suspicion, the person becomes trapped and locked into this loop of focus. I have so far gathered from this that, if there was any employable technique to engage the predator mind for long periods, illness is clearly one very effective means. And because it is based in this survival mentality, the "obsession" to focus on the physical is reinforced continually, and without fail from all people that the person with the illness comes into contact with, for they too are fearful of the concept of - I guess death. Apart from being tiring for the person with the illness to be ongoingly viewed primarily as a body from others, there is an allusive, hard to put my finger on, undercurrent that is attached to the process. And this is what I find most interesting.

Yes, it can be a terrible place to have to work from as we have less energy to deal with it. Perhaps if you can view it from the perspective that the initial cause was always present, it's just that at the point the symptoms presenting itself through illness have become overt. The tipping point has occurred.

Obviously it is not always the case, many a time illness can create a sort of resurrection whereby a person suddenly confronts themselves and chooses to review and rearrange many of their priorities, as well can be an experience that evokes more understanding and compassion in the person, causing them to reach outward to others more often than previously. These are what I consider more obvious and stereotypical circumstances, for me, it is the anomaly that I ponder.

Yes, the choice must me made: Is it more important for me to continue living as have always been or more important for me to be alive?

Just for the record, things looks "positive" in that, there are no "tentacles" coming from the 3(!) lumps. A small operation is necessary. I am relieved would you believe.

I had to comment on this as I found it concerning. I think I understood the context in which you meant it - perhaps this operation is smaller than others you may have experienced? I read this as a certain resignation or okayness with the status quo. It is not okay that you are going through this. Channel that anger, that fight in you and try all possible avenues so that you can at least say that you did. In other words, remove all possible causes so that you can then narrow down what that causes are.

Perhaps saying a bit about my own situation regarding this diet will help you? I have always been someone who has never noticed adverse effects from food. I could always eat whatever I wanted and had no reaction - so I thought. It was only when I gave up certain foods and then reintroduced them that I saw a difference. So it was this that provided proof to me that certain foods were not good for me. Now I have gained or regained my ability to really feel when something I've eaten is off.

You may feel that as a vegetarian, you are doing everything possible to not cause harm to another living being. Be clear that I'm not addressing the meat issue here. I'm just pointing to the fact that the entire food system is being poisoned. This includes the items I listed in my last post. In short, you are doing daily harm to yourself by eating those particular foods. Just consider for a moment that it would greatly benefit you to at least try to remove those foods. Just try it for a few weeks and take note of how you feel.

Last, If you're not already doing ee, I would say to start - today! If for no other reason than to reduce the stress you feel.

_http://www.squidoo.com/spiritualmeaning

 

[davey72]

Oddly enough, i havent read much on "The celestine prophecy"
This is the book that really started me on my path.
Anyways, the biggest thing that i took from that book was when he said "people are like halves of circles, they go around looking for another half, so they can be whole. There is a problem with this,as time progresses, and the "lovey" feelings wear off, they start conflicting and trying to take each others energy.
What a person should do is stay out of a relationship, and work on themselves to the pint that they become a whole themselves; Then if they choose to, they can find another whole as a partner and become 2 wholes. There is no need for each others energy this way.

Just a thought. :)