Reality split?

[fifty_five]

If I may: don't give up. we are helped. I have been helped all my life. even on February 22, 2020. In ways that may be strange to understand. What I was saying to the cosmos in the months and days leading up to the disaster: you want to kill me? kill me. I don't give up. for two years now I've been living on practically nothing, motionless and in silence like a nun, doing as before what I can to help those close to me while respecting free will. In a way that's difficult to explain, the evil magicians up there know that they can't get past me. And that they are free to kill me if they want.
At the moment I am still alive.I have never had such an experience in this life, the 51st life in one so is ok .

 

[Esote]

Couldn't it be seen as reality splitting from the old mainstream collective future together with reality merging from another new collective future, where each one of us has to make an existential choice towards one or the other ?
Times of a great reset anyway, amid confusion, division etc.

 

[Claus]

Yes it's like that here with me aswell. My wife constantly questions me about been pro Putin and only yesterday screamed at me I had no empathy for the war refugees.

Same here, last night again, but not only then, becaus we discous since that day, the operation startet.
But in the end we always agree, that we both feel for the innocent residents of the Ukraine and also for the soldiers, because most of them do not want to fight or even kill, but they have to. Except for the view psychopths...
Usualy we both think that war isn't a solution, but now I am not so sure any more, if there was an other posibility but war. Only I don't know how to express that to her.
On the other hand, the C's sayd, that there is only one gouvernment, and that is exactly what I thought of too, but then what for is this interaktion, if not free the land form psychopaths? Or is it that even this gouvernment works not together but against itselve?

 

[fifty_five]

guys I'm sorry to read all that. 3d sts reality on a collective level is disintegrating. for some, on an individual level, it has already disintegrated. this means that every single brick of the wall of the matrix has fallen/is falling on us. and the wound of every single brick is in itself disintegrating, deadly to the extent that it belongs to us and we have not done the work of dismantling the wall first, brick by brick. If someone manages to survive the collapse, and here it also becomes a matter of soul, but not only that, also a matter of very wild "fuck you, asshole" character, this someone is not in great shape anyway. we are not in great shalpe. frankly, destroyed. more and more destroyed. It doesn't matter if we're right, it's like if in a poker game one decides to see and wins the table, and the same time the roof of the arcade collapses on everyone. on a collective level, because of covid and putin's move (not fully aware) that's what's happening. Heal, let's heal our wounds, the world to come will not have the same rules, and we are now in a really bad shape. we have to switch to found the new ones.

 

[redsere]

It's like when you feel down and sorry for yourself and everywhere you go people are aparently giving you the evils. The reaction from loads of people was created by 1 person because of his viewpoint at that point in time. Now imagine whole populations living in fear the last 2 years all going around reacting to each other. If its true that we create our own reality this would explain how we got here. We have gone from freedom to governments doing what they like without needing our permission for any of it.

 

[psychegram]

I've felt like I've been living in an orthogonal reality from the official 'reality for years now; since well before covid, although of course that accelerated and accentuated things.

My take is that, some time ago, lies started to become mandatory. A brief list of the required shibboleths, from before 2020:

- race isn't real, all human groups are exactly the same, all outcome differences are due to racism
- western civilization is iremediably white supremacist
- there is no psychological difference between the sexes, all outcome differences are due to sexism
- there is an infinite spectrum of genders
- climate is regulated entirely by carbon dioxide, and we are facing an imminent catastrophe due to human carbon emissions

There are of course far more lies that are widely believed (fat causes heart disease; meat is unhealthy; Jesus existed; etc etc) but the above list just covers those beliefs that cannot be violated without severe social and/or economic sanction.

The direct consequence of that list has been a reduction in competence (due to affirmative action/diversity policies), social fracturing (by fomenting conflict on the basis of immutable characteristics), and a reduction in living standards (due to counterproductive 'green' economic policies).

In 2020, the list grew to include anything related to covid and vaccines. The result was a dramatic reduction in human freedom, extensive damage to people's health, destruction of trust in institutions, and vast economic damage leading to a further reduction in living standards.

Now the list has grown to include a sober understanding of geopolitics and foreign policy, with likely results including global economic depression, fracturing of the internet into the 'splinternet', and great power war with the possibility of a nuclear exchange.

There is an important lesson here for humanity. Turning away from reality and embracing lies inevitably degrades conditions within reality. The more extensive the lies, the worse things become, because the actions taken will be increasingly in conflict with reality.

Further, while it is certainly possible for an individual or group to temporarily increase their power by encouraging lies, in the long run they destroy the basis of their own power.

The split is not between those who know reality vs those who don't; to claim we know what is real would be hubris. It's between those who care about getting closer to the truth by rejecting that which they know to be false, vs those who do not prioritize truth but hold something else - power, social acceptance - to be more important. So it isn't exactly a reality split (that's impossible, there's only ONE reality), so much as a perception split driven by a priority split.

But indeed, things have reached such a pass where communication with those on the other side of the widening epistemic gulf has grown essentially impossible.

 

[Jebra]

That's beautifully put Psychegram. I couldn't agree more!

 

[Ina]

If its true that we create our own reality this would explain how we got here. We have gone from freedom to governments doing what they like without needing our permission for any of it.

I believe that there are numerous explanations for how we got here, besides our individually perceived realities. I also believe that very few people on Earth experienced real freedom in our time, and that because of living isolated which in the grand scheme of things would be an illusion of freedom. Actually we should not talk about freedom as we'll never experience it, as physically speaking we are far from being gasses.

As far as the governments doing what they do without any accountability, that is because humanity on Earth is either under state of disaster or necessity or medical emergency and soon will be under a state of crisis. The question remains does any of these 'states' resonate with what you think and feel about the reality that is being almost dictated top down style and amplified and spread laterally by people and at times loved ones?

 

[Snow]

These last few days I have been holding a similar thought in my head as well. That we are witnessing an actual collapse of an artificial reality construct, not so much a split of reality (which in my opinion happened on 9-11). This construct cannot withstand the onslaught of the actual reality, which started with Russian's move into Ukraine (even before it). The artificial reality is fighting tooth and nail to keep existing, but it is losing, hence the hysteria and craziness. Because the world went so far off track, the pain and disbelieve of the actual reality that is deconstructing the artificial one is colossal. In other words 2 realities that have split are coming back together again and this is not going to happen quietly....

 

[Jebra]

Turning away from reality and embracing lies inevitably degrades conditions within reality. The more extensive the lies, the worse things become, because the actions taken will be increasingly in conflict with reality.

It's interesting that the word apocalypse has come to mean the end of the world but at its root it means 'to reveal' The revelation of all of the lies might well destroy the world created from them so both meanings are totally accurate. I think this is what we are seeing coming at us. The gulf between those who see the lies and yearn for the truth and those who see only the lies and are comfortable with it is huge.

Just think about it - what is likely to happen when the lies about Russia's actions in Ukraine are exposed? When the truth about the Nazi's and what they are doing to the Ukrainian people is revealed? My husband is convinced (because the TV has told him) that Russia's army has been destroyed! How will people react when they find out that the narrative is all a lie and that their whole civilsation is built upon lies? This adds a whole new angle to the C's comment about soul smashing I think. Perhaps the split is between those that 'survive' the revelation of the truth and those that are soul smashed?

 

[syldan]

Great thread thank you! It's quite demanding to deal with on one side our parents and children that are in a parallel reality and the outside world. Maybe the split is causing multiple realities - for each group nourishing their own cognitive dissonance seems to be locked into a belief system that cannot access (our) my level of (in my mind) clarity?! It is becoming clearer day by day the significance of what the C's have warned us of. Even though I have read and re-read many of the warnings in the transcripts, what is cristalizing before me is not what I had imagined. As sad and scary as it is, what a beautiful thing it is to have access to our individual level of awareness. Depending on our circumstances each one of us has access to a different 'facette' of the perfectly cut crystal of reality! (Rubicon?!)

 

[Ina]

It's interesting that the word apocalypse has come to mean the end of the world but at its root it means 'to reveal' The revelation of all of the lies might well destroy the world created from them so both meanings are totally accurate. I think this is what we are seeing coming at us. The gulf between those who see the lies and yearn for the truth and those who see only the lies and are comfortable with it is huge.

Just think about it - what is likely to happen when the lies about Russia's actions in Ukraine are exposed? When the truth about the Nazi's and what they are doing to the Ukrainian people is revealed? My husband is convinced (because the TV has told him) that Russia's army has been destroyed! How will people react when they find out that the narrative is all a lie and that their whole civilsation is built upon lies? This adds a whole new angle to the C's comment about soul smashing I think. Perhaps the split is between those that 'survive' the revelation of the truth and those that are soul smashed?

I really doubt in my own belief system that a soul can be smashed. I think that the expression soul smashing has been converted from a metaphor into a mechanical action and overused in new age vlogs that don't convey much information. From what I read, a shift that might unveil a certain reality-based situations either brings mourning as a consequence of loss or madness as in complete mental rejection.
Of course as anything, a refresher of the Cs version of soul smashing would do a lot of good so I shall read again the pertinent areas where it's been mentioned.
You are right though, an observation of a certain reality split, is just a beginning, in the direction of increased awareness. This phenomenon will have tangible consequences for everyone. However, speculating on consequences might obscure the subsequent observations and even generate patterns more in sync with mental constructs rather than facts. See the woke movement.

 

[Artex]

Yes it's like that here with me aswell. My wife constantly questions me about been pro Putin and only yesterday screamed at me I had no empathy for the war refugees.
I've sat this morning slowly explaining my viewpoint, i have to be very gentle. Though the programming will of taken hold again tonight depending on what she's watched or heard today from the propoganda machine.
It's a real test of been self aware and strategic and I suppose it's training at the same time. Everyone I know is anti russian which is completely opposite of my view which has been shaped on here over many years.
I don't think anything will change here until people start losing there livelihoods or they cannot pay the mortgage. There are some very harsh lessons coming. Ill have to go through these aswell.
Things may happen way quicker than expected, maybe the house of cards is ready to rumble, it certainly feels like that.

I've spent several hours already explaining the complex history of Europe to my cousin's 20 year old who believes everything he sees on TV. Even after explaining the situation and hearing him reflect back what I said, his brain keeps going back to "Why would Russia attack for no reason?" I really hope he takes my advice and watches Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States. It may have it's issues, but it's really important to know and understand the counter-narrative.

Even my friends who are history experts seem to be buying the lies.

For my part, I've started reporting videos of Russian POWs being question by Ukrainian authorities since it's a violation of Article 13 of the Geneva Convention.

 

[Artex]

I put the title as a question because I don't know whether it is a fake belief precursor or the begining of the real deal.
Eversince the public beginning of Covid-19, I had a strong gut feel that something was wrong and that whatever information was coming via official normal channels was not belonging to my reality. The same gut feel I have currently, only amplified I would say with an order of magnitude. It looks like Ukraine-22 is using the same switch used in 19, whereabout the majority of governments act the same way. I do not know about the public at large, however, this time the shift that it is being created has a bigger and more rapid impact in my opinion.
I think we are in for some very, very interesting not only months and weeks, but days. Who knows maybe the 'drop dead April' is around the corner.
What do you think and feel about the reality mix or split?

I feel the split too. But for me it's that my observed reality is crystallized. What I understand makes sense and works as I navigate the world. But when I talk to others who have formed very strong opinions of things they know little to nothing about, lacking the curiosity to ask simple questions, believing things like war happens in a vacuum, I start to get irritated and confused. That view of the world is so at odds with the truth of the matter.

Did anyone else notice that the narrative went from "Russia attacked for no reason" to "Russia is attacking for Ukraine's oil" which I've not read one article about in the last 8 years?

And then I remember this vision of apocalypse I had randomly around 8 or 9 years old. I think I was washing the family van for spending money when I suddenly saw a skyline of fire and explosions. I wasn't allowed to watch violent films or TV and didn't watch the news, so I just don't know how I could have remembered such an image. I've been wondering about it ever since. Was it something I will someday see, or just a warning. I have had this feeling in the back of my mind about a cataclysm for about 35 years now.

I just hope that I'm ready to act when the time comes and don't cower in fear.

 

[Jebra]

I just hope that I'm ready to act when the time comes and don't cower in fear.

I think alot of us feel the same. On some level our souls agreed to come to where we all are now in this place in time. All is lessons and we are here to learn those lessons and whatever may happen to our physical bodies is irrelevant as it is our souls that count. We are all in the places we need to be.