Recommended Books: Discussion

[Sleepy]

Dear Anart, yes I am joking, this Beelzebub is killing me. Although, I must admit that during the course of my life I DID read
whole Steven King's opus, as well as A. Clark, Isak Asimov and other horror and science fiction writers (my father's influence, he was a fan, had whole library).
Not to mention that I was week to Jane Austin and sisters Bronte and as a spice to this soup I would add that I was in love with Jung in not so distant past. But since
I have found Laura, (I consider her as my C influence) I faithfully read at least 40% of the books she recommended.

 

[Smallwood]

Since I'm about to make an order to Red Pill Press and have a very limited budget (50 euros or so, didn't get that job I needed ), which of Laura's books people would recommend? I am thinking of the Secret History and the new edition of High Strangeness (or is that one even out yet?). I would be interested in a book form of The Wave too, but all in all, only if I have enough money at some point.

As for getting the psychology books recommended to me (Stout, Hort, Miller...), I will in a "timely" fashion. Right now, I want to support QFS.

 

[Bo]

Since I'm about to make an order to Red Pill Press and have a very limited budget (50 euros or so, didn't get that job I needed ), which of Laura's books people would recommend? I am thinking of the Secret History and the new edition of High Strangeness (or is that one even out yet?). I would be interested in a book form of The Wave too, but all in all, only if I have enough money at some point.

As for getting the psychology books recommended to me (Stout, Hort, Miller...), I will in a "timely" fashion. Right now, I want to support QFS.

Isn't it better to make sure you get a job first? to focus on that at the moment?, it seems like you are in a hurry in buying a book.

In the meanwhile while searching for a job, there is still tons of information online on the forum and sott itself to keep you busy until you have a job?

Or am i misunderstanding you?

 

[Smallwood]

I AM looking for a job all the time, it's just that one job in particular I had high hopes for since it would have been perfect for me in every way. And I think there are good enough reasons to get these books sooner rather than later. I do have the basic needs covered, I live with my parents after all (working my way out).

Still, I'm asking whether someone knows what books would be best? I have yet plenty of online material to read, but I can read a lot faster anything written on paper (no distractions which come with being on the computer).

 

[Jacques]

Since I'm about to make an order to Red Pill Press and have a very limited budget (50 euros or so, didn't get that job I needed ), which of Laura's books people would recommend? I am thinking of the Secret History and the new edition of High Strangeness (or is that one even out yet?). I would be interested in a book form of The Wave too, but all in all, only if I have enough money at some point.

I think that the new edition of High Strangeness is still not available for the moment.

Secret history is definitively a book to read and to possess but it is not an easy one to read as a first book of Laura.

The waves are great books and easier to read. I think it would be a better choice to start .

My 2 cents.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Since I'm about to make an order to Red Pill Press and have a very limited budget (50 euros or so, didn't get that job I needed ), which of Laura's books people would recommend? I am thinking of the Secret History and the new edition of High Strangeness (or is that one even out yet?). I would be interested in a book form of The Wave too, but all in all, only if I have enough money at some point.

As for getting the psychology books recommended to me (Stout, Hort, Miller...), I will in a "timely" fashion. Right now, I want to support QFS.

I'd definitely recommend High Strangeness before Secret History. It also serves as a good introduction to the Wave books. However, the second edition is not quite ready yet. Should be available within the next month or two.

 

[Jeremy F Kreuz]

Question: making my shopping list for the recommend books, I run into several editions of ´In search of the miraculous´. The cheapest editions I get on amazon is with a foreword, commentaries (?) of Marianne Williamson. (a quick look at her pink and blue website, if she is the one, doesn't give me the right impression IMHO: she seems to be a best selling new age author, also providing teachings on cruiseships ) Keeping in mind of what I read about ´the fourth way´ here on the forum, I wonder if all editions of ISOTM are the originals or that some may have been altered by publishing houses and/or editors. Does anybody has some insight in this, or is there a recommend edition by the forum? Thanks.

 

[Beau]

Hi Jeremy,

Get the one that looks like this:

 

[Smallwood]

I have that edition with Williamson's foreword and it seems totally legit :)

 

[nemo]

Hello! I´d like to give Beelzebub a first try.
Since my mother language is German I`m wondering if I should read it in English or German.
German ed. is more pricey because it`s out of print; on a pro note it comes in 3 vol. compared to the engl. brick of a book.
Does anyone here has any information regarding the quality of the German edition regarding its faithfulness to Gurdjieff?
I`m also aware that there`s a newer english translation supervised (?) by Mme de Salzman, which is probably preferable to older translation?
Am just assuming and hope you can help me out ...

 

[Gawan]

Hello! I´d like to give Beelzebub a first try.
Since my mother language is German I`m wondering if I should read it in English or German.
German ed. is more pricey because it`s out of print; on a pro note it comes in 3 vol. compared to the engl. brick of a book.
Does anyone here has any information regarding the quality of the German edition regarding its faithfulness to Gurdjieff?
I`m also aware that there`s a newer english translation supervised (?) by Mme de Salzman, which is probably preferable to older translation?
Am just assuming and hope you can help me out ...

Hello Nemo,
in this question I would also be interested in, if there is a difference in the translation.
I thought it would be more useful to read the version in my mother-tongue, to get maybe a better understanding and better grip of the content (there are these strange words for example: "Aieioiuoa" and maybe these ones got -"translated"- as well).

Some time ago I wrote an email to a publisher (Diederichs Verlag) of one German edition, if they are planning to reprint it, but the answer has been negative, that they currently not planning to do so.

But if you have time, and some money ;) it is not impossible to get for instance a "Sphinx" Version for 40-60 Euros.


fwiw.

 

[Oxajil]

@abcdefghiJoerg @nemo

Fwiw:

I have the Dutch translation of Beezlebub, some terms might be different, but not that much, also some words might be written differently, however I don't think this should stand in your way too much when trying to figure out what G. could mean in these 'stories'. But perhaps it might be better to get the English version if the German version is too pricey :)

But I would advice that one should first read In Search of The Miraculous to get a some kind of introduction to Gurdjieff's teachings, before reading Beezlebub.

 

[Jacques]

But I would advice that one should first read In Search of The Miraculous to get a some kind of introduction to Gurdjieff's teachings, before reading Beezlebub.

I totally agree with that.

 

[nemo]

Thanx for your replys, abcedefghiJoerg, Oxaji + Namaste!!
So far I`ve read all sott-books in English. In light of the fact that a German edition (Janus, 1967) has just been sold for over 80 EUR
(more than I ever paid for one single book, art books incl.) on Ebay, it seems sensible to go for the new english translation.
While I`ve actually read ISOTM, I might do so again. Hammering the point home is always good in my case.

 

[Mr. Premise]

Go ahead and get that edition, it's a good one. You can skip the Williamson into., though, it's annoying. She has the nerve to condescend to G. Says it was something she read when she started out her spiritual quest.

Question: making my shopping list for the recommend books, I run into several editions of ´In search of the miraculous´. The cheapest editions I get on amazon is with a foreword, commentaries (?) of Marianne Williamson. (a quick look at her pink and blue website, if she is the one, doesn't give me the right impression IMHO: she seems to be a best selling new age author, also providing teachings on cruiseships ) Keeping in mind of what I read about ´the fourth way´ here on the forum, I wonder if all editions of ISOTM are the originals or that some may have been altered by publishing houses and/or editors. Does anybody has some insight in this, or is there a recommend edition by the forum? Thanks.