Role of Russia
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Laura said:
I agree that she is a little full of herself as I have followed her too. BUT she is a strong supporter of Putin and Russia and says a number of key points in her article about Putin mentioned above that I just read and why he is NOT part of the NWO. She shows how Putin is one of the key people standing up to the empire, which is why he is being demonized by the West to such an extent. She presents good arguments, background stories and doesn't buy conspiracy theories about Putin.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Antony said:
Actually Antony, in Russia itself, the perception is vastly different. Ever since his rise to power, Putin's approval rating among the Russian people has hovered between 70-80%; far higher than that of any American President or European Prime Minister. The majority of Russians regard him as the savior of Mother Russia; with some referring to him as "Putin the Great". Some within Russia's Orthodox Christian faith, today - believe that Putin was God sent, literally!
Even Putin's most hysterical Western detractors unanimously concede that his talents and abilities are unusually formidable, for Putin came from a very humble background.
Your primary desertion Antony, highlighting Western infiltration and propagation of adverse conditions upon the Russian economy and population, with it's Russian/Israel Billionaire Oligarchs at the forefront of greed, conveniently side tracts the root cause and dominating factor that gives momentum to the insurmountable energies feeding the fire. It's root cause, from inception to manifest reality is through the exculsive creativity of the Khazar/Israel/Zionist Consortium.
Laura said:
Well yeah, she does self-promotion, and that should be taken into consideration when reading her.
However, she seems to know what she's talking about, and presents it in an intelligible and highly readable format.
I forwarded her article to ten acquaintances who are blind to the unjust vilifying of Putin and Russia. If anything, I'm hoping it will give them pause to at least reflect and reconsider their erroneous beliefs, and hopefully, to be more objective about what they read. And even more hopefully, to do their own research.
angelburst29
The Living Force
angelburst29 said:
(Note, I meant to include this within the above reply but only part posted.)
It's root cause, from inception to manifest reality is through the exclusive creativity of the Khazar/Israel/Zionist Consortium. Yet Antony, you fail to acknowledge that key fact! Instead, you promote falsified propaganda against Vladimir Putin, as it's main cause? When in reality, the conditions brought forth began centuries earlier. The absolute greed and domination of the Khazar/Israel/Zionist Consortium knows no ethical bounds and the Oligarchs will eventually be assimulated and tossed into the abyss, in the same manner as lesser minions.
In all fairness, you have asked a legitimate question, "Role of Russia" which I would like to paraphrase. "What is the "Role of Russia" and that of the Russian People and it's Russian Orthodox Christian Faith?"
I sense we are on the threshold of witnessing and being part of "the Greatest Show on Earth - since Rome and Julius Caesar!"
Russia, historically speaking, holds the title "the Third Rome." Technically speaking, it's current Tsar/Caesar is the Statesman, Vladimir Putin.
Ukraine currently holds the title, "The Second State of Israel" with Israel in a secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine, by withdrawing its settlers from communities beyond the settlement blocs—and relocating them (at least temporarily) to Ukraine. Ukraine made this arrangement on the basis of historic ties and in exchange for desperately needed military assistance against Russia. The Crimean referendum was a surprising development that placed a wrench in the Zionists plans, for during 1923 - 1944, there was a strong effort to create a Jewish Settlement/Homeland in Crimean but were forced out by the Russians. As an alternative, The State of Israel was established in Palestine in 1948.
History of Russia:
_http://www.tomatobubble.com/id550.html
More than 1100 years ago, diverse groups of seafaring Norsemen known as 'Rus' settled in modern day Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia; giving their name to the latter two. The Rus governed over native Slavic and Finnish tribes.
In 988, the Rus state, centered in Kiev (modern day Ukraine) converted to Christianity; which it adopted from the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire). For this reason, Russia is sometimes referred to as “The Third Rome”. That fusion of Rus, Slavic and Byzantine cultures formed the basis of Russian culture for the next 1000 years.
Kiev Rus ultimately disintegrated as a state because of the brutal Mongol invasion of 1237–1240 and the death of about half the population of Rus. Remnants of the Mongol invasions can still be seen in the faces of some modern day Russians (Tatar Mongol mix).
After the 13th century, Moscow became the cultural center of Russia. By the 18th century, the Tsardom of Russia had become the enormous, resource rich Russian Empire, stretching from the Polish–Lithuanian Union eastward to the Pacific Ocean. The word for king, Tsar, is Russian for Caesar.
Expansion towards the west introduced Russia to Western culture, which, at that time was far more advanced. In the late 1600‟s, Tsar Peter (Peter the Great) led a cultural revolution that replaced some of Russia‟s medieval social and political system with a scientific, Western oriented, system. The Tsarist House of Romanov (which takes its name from the Roman Empire) indirectly traces its lineage back to Peter. The Romanovs will rule Russia until 1918.
The Golden Age of Russian culture and imperialism blossomed under the Reign of Catherine the Great during the late 1700‟s. Catherine presided over the age of the Russian Enlightenment.
During the early 1800’s, Russia repelled Napoleon’s great invasion, a conflict fought over control of Poland and other reasons. Russians were very proud of their victory in the first “Great Patriotic War”. So much so that Tsar Alexander I signed a manifest on Christmas Day in 1812, declaring his intention to build a grand cathedral in honor of Christ the Savior "to signify our gratitude to Divine Providence for saving Russia from the doom that overshadowed Her" and as a memorial to the sacrifices of the Russian people.
In 1911, Russia’s popular reformist Prime Minister, Pyotr Stolypin, was shot to death in the Kiev Opera House; in front of Tsar Nicholas and his two daughters.
In February of 1917, Tsar Nicholas was forced to abdicate. Russia became a democratic Republic led by the socialist Alexander Kerensky. The Tsar and his family were taken into custody with the expectation that they would eventually be exiled.
In October of that same year, the Bolsheviks staged a second revolution. Kerensky was overthrown and the Bolsheviks seized the city of St. Petersburg. Their dictatorial power grab would trigger a civil war. When the Tsar and his family fell into Bolshevik hands, efforts to exile the Romanovs ceased.
On the evening of July 17, 1918, the Romanov Family were brutally murdered.
Russia - The Third Rome
_http://orthodoxwiki.org/Third_Rome
Saving the Third Rome. “Fall of the Empire”, Byzantium and Putin’s Russia
_http://www.iwm.at/publications/5-junior-visiting-fellows-conferences/vol-xxiv/saving-the-third-rome/
The Serpent People return to Ukraine
_http://www.texemarrs.com/082014/serpent_people_return.htm
From the early centuries of the first millennia, the Khazars of Eastern Europe were known as the diabolical “Serpent People,” and now, the nation of Israel has admitted that its people are indeed, the Khazars.
The admission by the Israelis that the Jews are not related to ancient Israel but to Khazaria was reported in The Times of Israel (Leaked Report: Israel Acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret Plan for Reverse Migration to Ukraine, March 18, 2014). That article, by Professor Jim Wald, related that the Israeli leadership in Jerusalem is sending military equipment and settlers from Israel to Ukraine.
The Jews have taken charge of that ravaged country’s government and finances and intend eventually to make the Ukraine a “second homeland” for the Jews.
Their plan, leaked by governmental insiders, came only after Netanyahu and his cabinet reviewed growing DNA genetic evidence that the Jews are not the descendants of Abraham. Instead, they came from Khazaria, of which Kiev, Ukraine is the centerpiece. In fact, the Jews of Israel and the U.S. are of Ukrainian heritage. Ukraine is in the heartland of Khazaria.
The Khazars, identified in Revelation 2 and 3 as the wicked “Synagogue of Satan,” are further identified in Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophetically as the people of Gog, from the land of Magog. Prophecy clearly tells us that this warlike serpentine people shall invade and conquer Israel first, then go on to plunge the entire planet into chaos and warfare (Revelation 20).
From Khazaria to Israel, and back to Khazaria (Ukraine) is Israel’s secret plan. After suppressing the Ukraine nation, the Jewish conquests will continue until the Jews achieve their New World Order.
Israel and U.S. Stage a Bloody Coup in Ukraine
Thus, we understand the current Ukraine political mess. The Jews launched the quest for their new Ukrainian homeland. They have support from the United States, as witness—the Jewish diplomat, Victoria Nuland, of the State Department. The U.S. is warning Vladimir Putin to keep a distance from Ukraine and to relinquish Russia’s historic ties to that nation, now ruled by Israel.
The constitutionally elected Ukrainian President, Yanukovych, was overthrown last year by the U.S. and Israel, with the CIA and the Mossad both deeply involved. A Jewish billionaire, Petro Poroshenko, was quickly installed as President. Jewish money and military might is constantly being flown into Ukraine. Ukrainian Christians (not Jews!) are being slaughtered. Genocide is underway.
All property is being appropriated by Jewish oligarchs. The Israelis learned in Turkey (1905), the Soviet Union (1917), and Palestine (1948) how to work as a corrupt and calculating “minority” to dominate a larger, gentile majority.
Ukraine.” Even the concentration camps have been reopened and are filling up with native Ukrainians.
Israel’s oligarchs, under Poroshenko’s iron hand, are dividing up the spoils of their Ukrainian takeover. The economy is falling—it has sank to only forty percent of its pre-2013 level. Israel is stealing natural gas and oil from the destabilized Middle East and selling it for huge profits to energy-starved Ukraine. Everything will change.
Americans are oblivious to the horror their Administration is causing the Ukraine people.
Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine
_http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/
March 18, 2014
Khazaria 2.0?
All Jews who wish to return would be welcomed back without condition as citizens, the more so if they take part in the promised infusion of massive Israeli military assistance, including troops, equipment, and construction of new bases. If the initial transfer works, other West Bank settlers would be encouraged to relocate to Ukraine, as well. After Ukraine, bolstered by this support, reestablishes control over all its territory, the current Autonomous Republic of Crimea would once again become an autonomous Jewish domain. The small-scale successor to the medieval empire of Khazaria (as the peninsula, too, was once known) would be called, in Yiddish, Chazerai.
The New Ulster: The Nature and Purpose of The State of Israel
_http://www.activistpost.com/2014/08/the-new-ulster-nature-and-purpose-of.html#more
I plan to listen to this later and will give a synopsis once i have.
Usually 'Crosstalk' has 2 crazies and 2 objective guests but it will be interesting to hear their comments. It's just been released. I wasn't sure if this should go in the 'unknown putin' or here, but it seems to be a general 'is Putin a force good and what do the people of Russia think'
Usually 'Crosstalk' has 2 crazies and 2 objective guests but it will be interesting to hear their comments. It's just been released. I wasn't sure if this should go in the 'unknown putin' or here, but it seems to be a general 'is Putin a force good and what do the people of Russia think'
itellsya said:
It's also up on Sott here: http://www.sott.net/article/284074-The-Putin-phenomenon-the-secret-to-his-success
I think this would be good to spread around. Peter Lavelle brings up an important pivot point for Western propaganda towards Putin in 2003 when he held the oligarchs at Yukos Oil responsible for their crimes and justifiably took back Russian oil to serve the interests of Russia rather than Western shareholders.
Here's an article on the subject that gets into some interesting aspects:
http://www.sott.net/article/275240-Russia-Israel-and-Media-Omissions
I've seen a couple of Crosstalk shows that have 'opposing' guests, but I think that might have just been an experiment (hopefully!). The shows that have guests who know what they're talking about are much better.
Thanks Renaissance :)
Yeah, i literally just finished watching. And to be fair, the article and your own comments break it down better.
I was doing something else as well as taking notes and when it finished i thought the same! But then again, perhaps those that hate Putin probably would refuse to go on a 'Kremlin mouthpiece'. Although they did have an old jewish guy that stormed off a week or so ago, he had a son in the IDF etc..
It might also be that it is, for someone of sound mind, difficult to argue, intelligently, against Putin, so there would be the chance of appearing foolish. But then again, isn't there a huge supply of those currently on TV?
Overall, it wasn't a ground breaking discussion. (unless it was broadcast on mainstream western tv!)
Yeah, i literally just finished watching. And to be fair, the article and your own comments break it down better.
I was doing something else as well as taking notes and when it finished i thought the same! But then again, perhaps those that hate Putin probably would refuse to go on a 'Kremlin mouthpiece'. Although they did have an old jewish guy that stormed off a week or so ago, he had a son in the IDF etc..
It might also be that it is, for someone of sound mind, difficult to argue, intelligently, against Putin, so there would be the chance of appearing foolish. But then again, isn't there a huge supply of those currently on TV?
Overall, it wasn't a ground breaking discussion. (unless it was broadcast on mainstream western tv!)
Just watched it. It was very interesting to hear one of the commentators, an American anti-war activist speak on the differences between Obama and Putin. He repeated more than once that it was the difference between appearance and essence. Obama being all about appearances and Putin all about essence. The commentator expanded on this a little bit, but it could be developed just so much in a 24 minute program. I had to wonder if this commentator who brought up these terms actually read G or not, or, if it's just more the fact that those who are looking at the situation objectively are just naturally more in-tuned to things, and therefore use language that sound co-linear in the ways that we would consider it. Just some thoughts.
I listened to 2 interviews by Time Monk Radio Network yesterday which i'll summarise for anyone interested.
First is Lada Ray, mentioned above by a few people. She has been on TMRN before, this interview is from July 2014.
The second interview is with Dimitry Orlov, i think he has been on TMRN before, as well as STR, but i think his comments on early Russia were interesting. I've underlined those comments i believe may be of interest.
I would say both are worth a listen, but hopefully any notes i've made will save some time! Both talk about Russia, historically and currently, plus a dash of their personal interests which are also noted.
Added:
Lada Ray - no mention of psychopathy
Orlov - accepts that motivation for US is the Zionist strategy "well known"
First is Lada Ray, mentioned above by a few people. She has been on TMRN before, this interview is from July 2014.
The second interview is with Dimitry Orlov, i think he has been on TMRN before, as well as STR, but i think his comments on early Russia were interesting. I've underlined those comments i believe may be of interest.
I would say both are worth a listen, but hopefully any notes i've made will save some time! Both talk about Russia, historically and currently, plus a dash of their personal interests which are also noted.
Added:
Lada Ray - no mention of psychopathy
Orlov - accepts that motivation for US is the Zionist strategy "well known"
A memo/ultimatum wasn't literally sent to Russian oligarchs; Orlov inferred that from the changing mood in Russia. There's probably some truth to that but keep in mind that the top ten richest people in Russia are still Jews, many of whom are dual-Israeli citizens.
I don't think it's as straightforward as 'if the US falls, Israel goes with it'. In a sense, the US is subordinate to 'Israel', not the other way around, so you can be sure that the Israeli elite are hedging their bets by keeping Russia 'onside' via powerful Jews in Moscow.
I don't think Russia is quite Putin's yet, although he may have some plan for dealing with Russia's oligarchs once and for all. For now, he remains 'a friend of Israel' and says Russia is 'open for business', despite Western sanctions. I think we see Putin's cautiousness in the way the Russians handled MH17: rather than reveal Israel's involvement, they just defended themselves against US claims.