Russia Begins Operations in Syria: End Game for the US Empire?

Avala said:
Reading your posts on the situation I just recollect old saying, attributed to Bismarck: 'Russians saddle up slow, but ride fast'. :) (Pусские медленно запрягают, но быстро ездят).

There is also a Russian saying: Measure seven times before you cut once (Семь раз отмерь, один раз отрежь) :)
 
bjorn said:
The only wild card in this scenario is Israel. There is too much risk for them to be also exposed. Even if a deal is struck. They will not allow it to happen. ‘Samson Option’ should tell you that.

Regarding 9/11 truth and Israel, this session right after the attacks said:

September 14, 2001

Q: We have a series of questions about this recent event. Was the attack on the World Trade Center undertaken by Moslem Terrorists?
A: No.
Q: Who was behind this attack?
A: Israel.
Q: Is it going to become known that it was Israel? Will they be exposed?
A: Yes.
Q: Is this the event that is going to lead to the destruction of Israel?
A: Yes.
 
BTW Putin celebrates his birthday today, October 7. Here is a picture Angelina Siard posted on https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=915583221854665&set=a.581950091884648.1073741825.100002089871905&type=3
The card reads:
[size=14pt]"Happy Birthday Vladimir Vladimirovitch!
Thank you for everyting! You are the saviour of Russia!"
"May god protect him"
[/size]
In a comment to a post I worte: "Actually, Putin is not only the saviour of Russia, way more than that."
 

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A couple of interesting news items, that are connected to eachother I think:

When russia entered syria, Erdogan from turkey had following to say.

Turkey's Erdogan calls Russian airstrikes in Syria 'unacceptable':
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/04/turkey-erdogan-calls-russian-airstrikes-in-syria-unacceptable/

Russia just stated following, about false flag attempts from "ISIS" in syria.

IS terrorists may blast mosques in Syria to blame Russia – Defense Ministry:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/06/is-terrorists-may-blast-mosques-in-syria-to-blame-russia-defense-ministry/

Now Russia is ready to consider Iraqi request for airstrikes – Upper House speaker:
https://www.rt.com/politics/317764-russia-ready-to-consider-iraqi/

Now Erdogan warns again, maybe because he finds it offensive that if iraq asks for help from russia, that he can not continue to support terrorists in iraq anymore and can not bomb iraq with jets anymore: which is a move from turkey that is against international law.

Erdoğan warns Russia against losing Turkey’s friendship:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/erdogan-warns-russia-against-losing-turkeys-friendship-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=89473&NewsCatID=510
 
Was just reading this report from LaRouche that gives a good background to what Putin had been up against. You might find it of interest.

Who Is Behind the Drive To Dismember Russia?

_http://schillerinstitute.org/strategic/2014/1230-dismember_russia/a.html
 
axj said:
bjorn said:
The only wild card in this scenario is Israel. There is too much risk for them to be also exposed. Even if a deal is struck. They will not allow it to happen. ‘Samson Option’ should tell you that.

Regarding 9/11 truth and Israel, this session right after the attacks said:

September 14, 2001

Q: We have a series of questions about this recent event. Was the attack on the World Trade Center undertaken by Moslem Terrorists?
A: No.
Q: Who was behind this attack?
A: Israel.
Q: Is it going to become known that it was Israel? Will they be exposed?
A: Yes.
Q: Is this the event that is going to lead to the destruction of Israel?
A: Yes.

Either by the Cosmos or? What sure is that Russia's just chanced the rules of the Middle-Eastern geopolitically game. Iraq en Afghanistan now also request Russian intervention. It seems the real ''War on Terror'' just started. Israel and the Empire can still safe face take their loses and participate in Russia's real alliance. The longer this drags on. The longer they expose themselves. But of-course they won't chance their ways. 'Mossad' has it's ways of convincing other countries to follow in line. But would any false flag on Russia be tolerated? If there is one country who will stand up to their games it's Russia. And I can imagine more major countries would want Israel to be gone as-swell. I am of-course suggesting of the blackmail they use. If Russia is able to withstand their terror. More will follow suit. And with that comes '911 truth' ? That can lead to the end of Israel. But they better be sure to first neutralize all WMD's Israel possesses.

- If you look at the C's hierarchal structure messing with Israel is messing with 'Mossad' who is on top of the 'Consortium'. Why did 4STS chooses them ? Because the destruction of the true semitic people has priority? I don't know.
 
Avala said:
Reading your posts on the situation I just recollect old saying, attributed to Bismarck: 'Russians saddle up slow, but ride fast'. :) (Pусские медленно запрягают, но быстро ездят).

Thanks, Avala Love that quote.

One thing that has impressed me is the quality of the Russian military. The latest being missiles fired from ships on Caspian Sea! The Russian military is top notch for sure. The Bear is on the prowl.

And Iran and Iraq would have had to give permission for the Russians to use their airspace. This must be galling to the US.

Happy Birthday to Vladimir!

Mac
 
Keit said:
Aeneas said:
Apparently Russia has also let Israel know that they don't belong in Syrian airspace, if this article is accurate:

Yes, that's why Israel tries to play nice, but also continue with the manipulative games at the same time:
http://www.sott.net/article/303456-Netanyahu-thinks-Putin-was-born-yesterday-Israel-to-provide-Russia-with-intelligence-about-Syrian-opposition-for-a-price

Yes, war by way of deception and all that...
 
loreta said:
I feel so elated, happy and also worried because what is happening is very beautiful (the war finally against the ISIS rats) but I am worried of the answer of the others, the Beast.

Hi loreta,

I think all of us have traces of that thought in the back of our minds. But it can be hugely counter-productive.

Our negative emotions (worry, fear) add energy to the forces of evil. That's what happens when we neglect the power of our thoughts. And recall this admonition from C's only a short time ago:

A: For all forum members: Do not lose heart. Just remember that if you do all
you can, yourselves in the future will bridge the gap. You are all potential
transducers of information into chaos.
Let that information be love/truth.


FWIW.
 
Russian party in Serbia celebrated Putin's birthday. :D

_http://www.rts.rs/page/magazine/sr/story/511/Zanimljivosti/2063220/Uz+%E2%80%9EKaljinku%E2%80%9C+i+veliku+tortu%2C+u+%C5%A0apcu+proslavljen+Putinov+ro%C4%91endan.html

_http://www.ruskastranka.rs/index.php?id=07102015

They are a new party, formed in 2013: https://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
 
President Putin - Happy Birthday!

Birthday boy Putin is briefed by his best friend, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu on Syria, then goes to play hockey
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/10/birthday-boy-putin-is-briefed-by-his.html

Putin started his 63rd birthday with a meeting with his best friend, Sergey Shoigu (see more pics of their special bond below)


After launching 26 missiles from the Caspian sea on ISIS, Putin plays hockey in Sochi on his birthday (video)
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/10/after-launching-26-missiles-from.html

The opening of the fifth season of the Night hockey League

At the Big Ice Palace in Sochi the new, fifth season of the Night Hockey League was opened with a match between veteran players of the team “Stars of the NHL” and the NHL team. Vladimir Putin took part in the game.

The President greeted to the participants and guests of the 5th all-Russian hockey festival among amateur teams to mark the start of the fifth season of the Night Hockey League.
 
sitting said:
loreta said:
I feel so elated, happy and also worried because what is happening is very beautiful (the war finally against the ISIS rats) but I am worried of the answer of the others, the Beast.

Hi loreta,

I think all of us have traces of that thought in the back of our minds. But it can be hugely counter-productive.

Our negative emotions (worry, fear) add energy to the forces of evil. That's what happens when we neglect the power of our thoughts. And recall this admonition from C's only a short time ago:

A: For all forum members: Do not lose heart. Just remember that if you do all
you can, yourselves in the future will bridge the gap. You are all potential
transducers of information into chaos.
Let that information be love/truth.


FWIW.

Thanks Sitting to remind me this.
 
Pashalis said:
A couple of interesting news items, that are connected to eachother I think:

When russia entered syria, Erdogan from turkey had following to say.

Turkey's Erdogan calls Russian airstrikes in Syria 'unacceptable':
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/04/turkey-erdogan-calls-russian-airstrikes-in-syria-unacceptable/

Russia just stated following, about false flag attempts from "ISIS" in syria.

IS terrorists may blast mosques in Syria to blame Russia – Defense Ministry:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/06/is-terrorists-may-blast-mosques-in-syria-to-blame-russia-defense-ministry/

Now Russia is ready to consider Iraqi request for airstrikes – Upper House speaker:
https://www.rt.com/politics/317764-russia-ready-to-consider-iraqi/

Now Erdogan warns again, maybe because he finds it offensive that if iraq asks for help from russia, that he can not continue to support terrorists in iraq anymore and can not bomb iraq with jets anymore: which is a move from turkey that is against international law.

Erdoğan warns Russia against losing Turkey’s friendship:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/erdogan-warns-russia-against-losing-turkeys-friendship-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=89473&NewsCatID=510


Thanks, I think this is a useful way to present some important data. After following the (alternative) news for the last days and listening to the latest Sott Talk, some thoughts crossed my mind: First, what are Putin's intentions? What is his goal? I think it's fairly obvious that Putin "integrated" some values on a very deep level and acts upon them. So based on his speeches and interviews, as I understand it, he believes in a lawful system, where there are definite rules that are to be followed by everyone - other than that, everyone should be free and not be interfered with. The fact that he stepped down as president during the Medvedjiev era even though he could have easily changed the constitution with the full support of the people is one example of this. In foreign policy of course, these rules are what we call international law, and Putin stresses its importance all the time. He believes there must be certain rules. And maybe this whole operation that he has pulled off is one huge "standing up for international law" operation. A powerful demonstration to the entire world that international law is still valid, that it won't pay in the long run to violate those rules. That even the global superpower has to adhere to it. Kind of like the good guy on the school yard who has to tolerate the bully all the time, until he brings him down strategically, telling him that he too has to follow the rules, like everyone else, thus sending a signal to the entire school that the rules are still there.

That would also explain why Putin continuously offers the pathocrats a way out to save their face - for example, he doesn't seem to go around and tell everyone "the US created ISIS and never wanted to fight it", instead the official narrative is "you can't fight terrorists by air strikes alone, you need the Syrian army". This offers the empire an explanation to the obvious question as to why they weren't able to defeat ISIS and at the same time forces them to admit the legitimacy of the Assad government. So maybe it's not Putin's game to "give it to the USA", strictly speaking (although he gives them a lot for sure!), but to simply stand up for the rule of law. As with the bully in the schoolyard, all the other nations notice this, notice that international law can and will be enforced if necessary against those who think they are beyond it. This could be extremely important and benefit everyone, including of course Russia. And it's obvious that those governments who scream the loudest now are those who are most violating international law and hope to further undermine it, like the bully's entourage.


Another thing I thought about is the "big miscalculation" the C's talked about. If we look at the timeline:

Classic regime change operation with phony revolution -> False flag chemical attacks -> Call for NATO to no-fly-zone bomb the place

So far, everything went according to plan for the reality-creators. Then Putin's first interruption: preventing the attack with brilliant diplomacy (Assad giving up his chemical weapons). This obviously made the empire very angry. A major stalking of the pathocrats, which may have only heightened their wishful thinking and delusion.

Next, after the initial shock and anger that something didn't go as they wished, I imagine how the pathocrats may have gone on a frenzy, laughing and cheering at their own brilliance, imagining how they will "give it to Russia and the whole world, big time!! Yeah!!" And so they invented ISIS, portrayed it as the devil incarnate in their propaganda outlets, and... walked right into the trap. Like the judo master that he is, Putin used his enemy's own energy to bring him down - the immense fear and hatred of ISIS in the West. The pathocrats were so into their wishful thinking mode that they just couldn't see it coming. And so Putin doesn't need to reveal any "conspiracy theories" about the CIA creating ISIS and such (although it's a side effect that many more people will realize these things), he simply does his thing, and nobody can say anything bad about it - after all, he bombs the devil incarnate! Checkmate. So, maybe this whole ISIS thing was the big miscalculation?

Just some thoughts, fwiw.
 
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