Session 10 December 2016
- Thread starter Laura
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Ready to rock'n'roll 
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Nico
Guest
Hit and run, so sneaky !
Let's balance the negative by the positive and meet in the Peace between !
Let's balance the negative by the positive and meet in the Peace between !
Palinurus
The Living Force
Laura said:
Laura, I beg to differ. I think you're being very naive with this assumption.
This is an open forum, probably under heavy scrutiny permanently. For anyone with the proper equipment and enough time, your busy network can be mapped and patterned almost instantly.
It makes no difference, I now. But you still should be aware of the risks involved.
My tuppence. ;)
Divide by Zero
The Living Force
Palinurus said:
Not only here, twitter/facebook have sneaky algorithms. My friend made a facebook/twitter account for his job, only used on his job PC and smartphone. Never he intermingled the accounts, and his home accounts are private- not using his real name.
Guess what, his private home account suggested things that they would only know at work, and vice versa.
There's a lot of metadata that they can find patterns with- however crude.
Now the real problem with facebook/twitter/google which we saw in search rankings: If they want to bury something, it's easy to do this. Recently there was a huge problem with youtube hiding and unsubbing people who later were confused. It tended to be people who were popular but against youtube's new policies and plans.
I also find it funny that people talk about journalism as how it used to be for real.
What happened with the newspapers when congress had a winter recess vote to pass the federal reserve act in semi-secret (as most of congress was on vacation- only those in the know showed up to approve it by majority present).
You would have thought they would have wrote about that, in the age before mega media.
Same for the constitution and it's mythology of it's fairness. It wasn't until people were ready to revolt that they "Patched" a pretty new document to have a Bill of rights?! What the hell? You had to add amendments for rights?
Argh and day by day people don't realize the extent of their unconscious slavery.
I admire y'all energy for the Twitter, etc... maybe some people will wake up and search, but I don't have faith in Twitter actually ranking things fairly...
Divide By Zero said:
It does seem like spitting in the wind with google and major social media messing with search results, etc. And it is hard to do it in what seems to be increasing overwhelming odds etc. Like what is the point, right?
A couple thoughts:
1. If enough people join the cause, then it might overwhelm the censorship. Probably isn't going to happen, so point 2.
2. Taking action and speaking up even if seems futile is making a statement to the universe and a commitment toward the truth and fairness. It is putting energy and information into a non-linear system where who knows how it will interact with the rest of the system toward some unanticipated future or future change. In a sense, it is committing energy and information toward balanced objective reality against subjective chaotic reality. Who knows how this might align with and impact other activities, such as what might take shape with the crystal network. Maybe it will aid in splitting of reality at some point. Also, who knows how much longer we are even going to be able to speak up safely on social media etc , so might as well keep the lighthouse going, because it is the right thing to do.
3. Finally, Divide By Zero. I get your point, think it has validity and it is a realist view you have. Yet even with taking the fudged search results, etc into account, IMHO it seems to be too pessimistic, which can bleed into anticipation. Like anticipating that nothing would change if I did XYZ due to my view of things, so I'm going to sit on the sidelines and not even give it a chance or energy. It is also seems to me to be taking a position where you assume that you have the full picture of things from your 3D perspective and may be missing a lot of what possibly happens from such activities on other levels.
Bear said:
I have a twitter from a few years back when I made one to check it out, not a fan of it due to the character limit, but we might as well try this out. I ditto point #3. Furthermore, I've been adding more and more people on FB, suggested friends, etc, because might as well try to reach more people with my posts, and posts will show up more on new friends' feeds, from what I have seen. We should also like each others' posts as much as we can, to boost popularity, same concept as with the retweeting.
meta-agnostic
Jedi Master
I had my twitter account before I joined FOTCM and it has my real name on it. Yes, that could be changed easily enough but regardless I'm sure this network is being mapped with some scrutiny by whatever forces are concerned. There are people I mutually follow whom I know in real life who might not be exactly what we here would call 'woke' (though they might call themselves such with the proliferation of that inscrutable term), and there are big/famous accounts I follow who I hadn't quite realized how narrow and uninformed their opinions were until the election campaign really got underway. Since it ended many of them have become even more nauseating.
Now, I'm all for getting the word out on issues which appear to be of the utmost import. But I know going completely berserk on all of these people is going to get me unfollowed and/or blocked in no time and we will be back in our respective bubble/echo chambers, shouting into the wind almost entirely at other people who already agree with us. But I'm making mental notes about everyone who has become more and more unbearable, how extreme they are, what positions they have taken and how they might be called out on hypocrisies when the moment is right. In the hours and days immediately following the election it seemed there were melting snowflakes so triggered that they were blocking anyone left and right who expressed the least bit of a dissenting opinion from theirs. Some of them seemed to have calmed down a bit but they are still very much looking at things as being on one side or the other, with us or against us. Now that the danger of a 'coup' seems to have passed, for the moment, I'm hoping there may be a way to reach some of these types without just beating them over the head with "You're an idiot, here's an article explaining why if you can be bothered to read it." This may be my own version of making excuses and being too silent but I think of it more as being strategic. After Jan. 20th, if Trump actually does something semi-objectively "good" and these people shout it down out of pure, naked partisanship they are getting hammered until I get blocked, and if I get muted they're getting unfollowed.
Another twitter usage tip, if you think you might be muted by a verified account, open up the link to the original tweet in a separate, private no-cookies browser window. If your reply doesn't show up, you're probably muted and can stop wasting an inordinate amount of time on that person. Although sometimes there is a limit on how many replies show up when you're not logged in. Twitter messes around with their mechanics pretty regularly. Of course the character limit of the format itself can be a huge drawback to trying to have an in-depth exchange and pretty much limits it to "Here, read this separate thing: [link]" without being extremely clunky and time-consuming. I never set up a facebook account due to sensing how it seemed to be much more ponerized, but more power to those of you on there.
Excellent timely and informative session btw! :D
Now, I'm all for getting the word out on issues which appear to be of the utmost import. But I know going completely berserk on all of these people is going to get me unfollowed and/or blocked in no time and we will be back in our respective bubble/echo chambers, shouting into the wind almost entirely at other people who already agree with us. But I'm making mental notes about everyone who has become more and more unbearable, how extreme they are, what positions they have taken and how they might be called out on hypocrisies when the moment is right. In the hours and days immediately following the election it seemed there were melting snowflakes so triggered that they were blocking anyone left and right who expressed the least bit of a dissenting opinion from theirs. Some of them seemed to have calmed down a bit but they are still very much looking at things as being on one side or the other, with us or against us. Now that the danger of a 'coup' seems to have passed, for the moment, I'm hoping there may be a way to reach some of these types without just beating them over the head with "You're an idiot, here's an article explaining why if you can be bothered to read it." This may be my own version of making excuses and being too silent but I think of it more as being strategic. After Jan. 20th, if Trump actually does something semi-objectively "good" and these people shout it down out of pure, naked partisanship they are getting hammered until I get blocked, and if I get muted they're getting unfollowed.
Another twitter usage tip, if you think you might be muted by a verified account, open up the link to the original tweet in a separate, private no-cookies browser window. If your reply doesn't show up, you're probably muted and can stop wasting an inordinate amount of time on that person. Although sometimes there is a limit on how many replies show up when you're not logged in. Twitter messes around with their mechanics pretty regularly. Of course the character limit of the format itself can be a huge drawback to trying to have an in-depth exchange and pretty much limits it to "Here, read this separate thing: [link]" without being extremely clunky and time-consuming. I never set up a facebook account due to sensing how it seemed to be much more ponerized, but more power to those of you on there.
Excellent timely and informative session btw! :D
[quote author= meta-agnostic]I had my twitter account before I joined FOTCM and it has my real name on it. Yes, that could be changed easily enough but regardless I'm sure this network is being mapped with some scrutiny by whatever forces are concerned.[/quote]
They better hang me. Otherwise I haven't been trying hard enough.
I got 140 ''friends'' on FB. And with that I mean 140 Muppets.
It's not much of an audience.
But I suppose it's more about sending a strong signal to the Universe. Pure Intent combined with action energetically feeds Objective Reality. So posting things that is conscience/objectively relevant does make a difference. Even when nobody takes note.
OSIT.
They better hang me. Otherwise I haven't been trying hard enough.
I got 140 ''friends'' on FB. And with that I mean 140 Muppets.
It's not much of an audience.
But I suppose it's more about sending a strong signal to the Universe. Pure Intent combined with action energetically feeds Objective Reality. So posting things that is conscience/objectively relevant does make a difference. Even when nobody takes note.
OSIT.
