Session 11 October 2014

[Ollie]

Cold adaption and high blood pressure
It is important to note that high blood pressure (hypertension) symptoms may go unnoticed and may typically take a few years to develop and cause damage. The damage may cause devastating effects – increasing the risk of heart disease, stroke, hardening of arteries and diabetes.

Having seen a cardiologist (heart doctor) this week I was informed that I’ve had high blood pressure for two years (unknown to me, and previously having been told that my blood pressure was normal). This happened to coincide with the time I started cold adapting – cold baths for 45 mins, and cryogenic chamber work.

It should be noted that high blood pressure varies from person to person and with age.
120/80 mm/Hg is considered healthy
120 to 139/80 to 89 is called pre-hypertension
140 to 159/90 to 99 is called stage 1 hypertension
160/100 is called stage 2 hypertension.

Through the day my blood pressure ranged from 205/130 to 151/93, with a mean of 181/112. An interesting test made during measurements showed that pipe breathing lowered the lower value (heart pumping empty part of the cycle). :) Also, it should be noted that my age is approaching 69 years.

Common symptoms of high blood pressure are often none! Yet may include one or more of the following: headaches, irritability, dizziness, fatigue, sleeplessness, frequent urination and depression.

I have experience depression in the past two years (and had a rational reason for its cause), and fatigue, yet none of the other symptoms (frequent urination has been less since coming off a prostate protocol :)).

My high blood pressure first came to light with a loss of ‘balance’ (to the left) whilst walking (yet with a lack of dizziness) and onset of fatigue - thought to have been caused by a micro stroke, although a brain scan has ruled this out – and a visit to a cardiologist (who has confirmed that my heart is OK). I still have a second visit to an ear specialist to check out any possible ear balance issues.

Getting back to cold adaption, it appears that this may raise blood pressure levels, if doing the full 15C for 15 mins (or equivalent). The message is to take care and avoid overdoing the cold adaption process, especially if you are ‘elderly’. And, to keep an eye on your blood pressure levels.

Cold adaption and hypothermia
Hypothermia is caused by a drop in body temperature caused by prolonged exposure to cold temperatures.

Onset depends on a person’s age, weight, body fat, overall health and the amount of time exposed to the cold. Shivering is a positive response to produce heat through muscle activity.

People at risk include the elderly.

Symptoms of mild hypothermia include: dizziness, faster breathing, increased heart rate (mine has jumped from low 60’s to high 80’s), hunger (NB, this is over and above any hunger symptoms for those on a keto diet who are eating insufficient fat with their protein intake (a classic symptom – as in eating too much protein and a low fat intake)).

Signs of moderate hypothermia include: slow, shallow breathing, confusion and memory loss (over and above normal), loss of co-ordination – stumbling steps and fumbling hands, turning ‘blue (lips and extremities)’. People have commented on my ‘blue’ lips on getting out of a 15C spring pool after a 15 min immersion (I was unaware of this myself).

So, overall, the message with cold adaption is to take care and to avoid overdoing the process, especially for those who are ‘elderly’.

 

[Inga]

Yesterday I had a water temperature of 10oC. I was in the water for 10 minutes.

Cs have said 10 to 15 C. (and so many minutes) If the temperature is less than 10 ° C which is a recommendation?

I apologize if it has a story about this.

 

[Ollie]

Yesterday I had a water temperature of 10oC. I was in the water for 10 minutes.

Cs have said 10 to 15 C. (and so many minutes) If the temperature is less than 10 ° C which is a recommendation?

I apologize if it has a story about this.

The number of minutes of water immersion is equivalent to the temperature (C), so for 5C the water immersion time is 5 minutes.

 

[Cosmos]

Yesterday I had a water temperature of 10oC. I was in the water for 10 minutes.

Cs have said 10 to 15 C. (and so many minutes) If the temperature is less than 10 ° C which is a recommendation?

I apologize if it has a story about this.

The number of minutes of water immersion is equivalent to the temperature (C), so for 5C the water immersion time is 5 minutes.

Yeah, but that is assuming that this calculation/ratio is also what the C's would recommend for temperatures that are below 10°C. The C's gave the following answer to Carlisle's specific question:

Q: (Carlisle) In the last session, you mentioned cold protocols as an aid to help fight off Ebola and strengthen the immune system. We were wondering what kind of temperature, duration, and frequency of cold exposure is optimal for this?

A: Ten to fifteen C, and same number of minutes. Daily is best initially, but four times weekly for maintenance. The approach can be gradual.

The answer was given relating to the question Carlisle had aka: "what kind of temperature, duration, and frequency of cold exposure is optimal for help fighting Ebola and strengthen the immune system".

So I'm not sure that we can say with certainty that this approach is also right one, for temperatures that are lower. It also would be intersting to know if that recommendation was given in the context of where the enquirer (Carlise/our group) was at that point.

So is that "Ten to fifteen C, and same number of minutes" recommendation generally the time and temperature that one should follow for cold adaption all the time, or does it change over time and you can go lower in temperatures then? And if so, does the ratio change? And since the question was not really in respect to cold adaption per se, but for "fighting off Ebola and strengthen the immune system", I wonder if for cold adaption a different ratio could maybe apply?

 

[Voyageur]

Having seen a cardiologist (heart doctor) this week I was informed that I’ve had high blood pressure for two years (unknown to me, and previously having been told that my blood pressure was normal). This happened to coincide with the time I started cold adapting – cold baths for 45 mins, and cryogenic chamber work.

Very glad you caught on to this, Prodigal Son. The cold adaption seems an interesting coincidence or trigger, too, with the symptoms described. Take it easily and find out step by step what best works for you. :)

 

[Jacques]

Yesterday I had a water temperature of 10oC. I was in the water for 10 minutes.

Cs have said 10 to 15 C. (and so many minutes) If the temperature is less than 10 ° C which is a recommendation?

I apologize if it has a story about this.

I would say to add a bit of warm water to keep it between 10 and 15 C.

 

[Inga]

Yesterday I had a water temperature of 10oC. I was in the water for 10 minutes.

Cs have said 10 to 15 C. (and so many minutes) If the temperature is less than 10 ° C which is a recommendation?

I apologize if it has a story about this.

I would say to add a bit of warm water to keep it between 10 and 15 C.

If Cs say 10o-15o C this is the only answer.... add a bit of warm water.

Thanks

 

[AutomatedMan]

Thanks to the Chateau crew for another interesting session!

I haven't done the cold therapy treatment yet, and intend on adopting that next. I've tried it before, ironically during the winter vortex back in Februrary and couldn't commit to it becuase it felt cold the whole day ( talk about throwing yourself in the deep-end). Despite that, I feel like I'm getting involved more with the Diet and Health sections and feel better already! I jumped into the keto diet, using vitamin C and magnesium for the past 3 weeks now and I feel amazing! I also began doing EE 2-3 times per week for the past 2 weeks. I hope to begin the 'Cold Therapy' sooner rather than later and I'm glad to see everyone's progress with it!

I hope not to derail the cold therapy discussion, as it's important to the health of the group. I am, through, particularly interested in what the C's mentioned about the Hailey's comet as end and beginning points in Ceaser's life and how it may affect those born with the right receivership capacity :

Session Date: October 11th 2014
Q: (L) Okay. Hmm. Well, that doesn't help me at all, does it? Was there anything remarkable about Caesar's birth?

A: Comet.

Q: (L) So there was a comet at the time of his birth, and that was the main thing. A comet at his birth, and a comet at his death. Is that it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) But, no “laid in the manger” business, no wise men, nothing like that.

A: No.

Q: (Pierre) But the comets meant something. It was not only random chance, was it?

(L) But all the stuff about Jesus and the manger and being born in a cave or whatever...

(Perceval) Well, how long was the comet in the sky, and how many were born at the same time?

(Pierre) But an individual having a comet at his birth and at his death...

(L) Is kind of special. I mean, look at Mark Twain!

(Perceval) But how many people were born at that time? It doesn't necessarily relate to Caesar. If it was there in the sky for a week or two weeks, then you've got hundreds of people being born with the comet in the sky. But from a human point of view, people took it as a sign...

A: Receivership capability!

Q: (L) So there can be hundreds of people born with the emanations of a comet in the atmosphere, but only the one that has the receivership capability would be affected or influenced by it?

A: Yes

I want to investigate if there are other historically significant individuals born within the window of Hailey's comet appearances. I'll post back if I find something of significance!

 

[A.K.]

Q: (L) They're saying no, that it's far more pragmatic. Okay, next question... I'm never going to get to my questions that I have! [laughter] Okay, when you say, "the soul and its helpers", what the heck are the soul's helpers?

A: Tribal unit members both in the body and out.

Q: (L) So if you're a member of a tribal unit, you are in a way connected via DNA connections or signals or frequencies with your other tribal members, whether they are incarnated or not? Is that what we're saying here?

A: Pretty much; no man is an island!

Thank you for another great session guys. Laura should take more rest and doing less sessions if needed. Can i assume that
the exchange above means all souled sort of 'talking or resonating' with one another even though we do not physically talk to one another? I mean
by close proximity? And if true, does this also means we're 'helping' one another without violating freewill? Is it one of the reason why some individuals tends to avoid others because of different in resonance a.k.a STS avoids STO unless necessary?

 

[hiker]

Thank you for sharing the session.

As others have mentioned, there seems to be some sort of emotional aspect to this cold adaptation. Having done cold adaptation for quite some time now, I've started to feel more and more of some kind of emotional processing going on after the showers. Just today, after the cold shower (the water here is around 7C), I heard my wife singing and playing the piano in the living room, and I almost started crying because it touched me very deeply.

And, if I have the chance to lay down and close my eyes after a cold shower, I sense these waves of emotions and impassions overwhelming me. Sometimes they are memories of something that happened in the past, sometimes realizations - "aha moments" of understanding of some past thing that happened. This is just my layman's guess, but could it be that the shaking and tremor we experience after a cold shower/bath somehow releases memories and suppressed emotions in the body, from the muscles and tissues?

Absolutely,
From the sounds of peoples experiences we have neurogenic trauma releasing tremors happening. This can be induced in a variety of ways, there is some kind of route through the musculo-skeletal, limbic, vagus nerve, or cold induced through the central nervous system. I haven't quite got my head around it all but the links are clearly there. Animals naturally release and tremor out their nervous system tension after trauma, we humans need a bit of assistance to get the mechanism going again. When we are kept in a fight flight state chronically it is easy to control use our resilience is decreased we are afraid of the shadows.

To sum it up these are the things I think that help us to rid the body of this tension:

1) Ketogenic diet and feeding our healthy gut bacteria, through the gut brain connection

2) Cold adaptation which induces tremoring and raises core body temperature increasing resilience

3) Neurogenic tremoring instigated by trauma release exercises

4)Body therapies that gently communicate with the central nervous system through fascial proprioception that also creates a trauma/tension release, particularly when focused on the iliopsoas muscle

5)Breathing techniques that stimulate the diaphragm (EE) and relax the oral facial muscles (pipe breathing)

6)Placing the tip of the tongue firmly into the roof of the mount this protects the oesophagus and the throat can open relaxing the oral facial mucles which allow the sphenoid bone to freely move with the cranial-sacral rhythm, hydrating the brain and balancing the endocrine system.

This reminded me of recently reading a blog post, where trauma release exercises were mentioned:

5. Trauma Releasing Exercises

One of the weirdest effects of anxiety is how much tension builds up in your body. I couldn’t even take a deep breath because my stomach always trembled, like it was being stretched to its limits. Relaxing felt physically impossible.

My body was so tense because I was constantly in fight-or-flight mode. Every day, I was producing the energy needed to survive a life-threatening event. The problem was that this event was in my mind; it was imaginary and it never took place. I had all this excess energy that wasn’t being released, so I became extremely high-strung.

A friend recommended that I check out T.R.E. — Trauma Releasing Exercises, which helped him conquer his anxiety. I watched a few videos of T.R.E. on YouTube and immediately thought it was fake. The clips showed people lying on the ground as their bodies went into spastic tremors. Their movements looked comical and freaky, like they were in the middle of an exorcism.

T.R.E. was originally designed as a safe and easy way to induce tremors. Anyone who has gone through extreme trauma, from the emotionally abused to war veterans, can use these exercises to their benefit. The exercises take about 20 minutes to complete, and they’re intended to induce tremors by exhausting your leg muscles.

I learned that tremors are a natural means for mammals to discharge excess energy after a traumatic event. The tremors release our body’s surplus of adrenaline after it’s no longer needed for survival. I watched footage of antelopes, bears, and other animals that had narrowly escaped an attack. Their bodies instinctively trembled for a few minutes, and then they’d act calm and normal again. It was fascinating.

Unlike most species, adult humans typically prevent themselves from having tremors. Why? Because we avoid behavior that makes us look weak or vulnerable. In other words, we are so self-conscious that we unknowingly block our body’s natural (yet embarrassing) function during times of great stress. As a result, we make it very difficult to overcome trauma because we’re constantly holding in so much excess energy. Thankfully, T.R.E. can help.

I bought the T.R.E. book on my Kindle and went through all the exercises. After I completed the full circuit, I lied on the ground and was STUNNED as my back, hips, and legs shook rapidly in sporadic bursts for 20 minutes. The tremors weren’t painful at all; the sensation actually felt relaxing and natural. I was just astounded by how vigorously my body shook. I looked like a vibrating cell phone. After my body’s tremors finally subsided, I went to lie down on my bed and immediately fell into a deep sleep.

I performed these exercises three nights per week, for three weeks. They were hugely effective for releasing the physical tension my body was holding in. I can’t show or describe all of the exercises here, as I don’t want to take credit for a routine I didn’t create. But if you’re interested in giving T.R.E. a shot, you can check out the book (or win a free copy by leaving a comment below — see instructions at the bottom of this post).

I know T.R.E. might sound kooky, or even a little scary. But it’s really not bad at all. It’s basically just a series of stretches that help your body thaw itself out by alleviating your chronic tension. Your tremors will definitely make your body move in strange ways though, so be sure to do these exercises in a relaxed environment where you won’t feel self-conscious.

_http://fourhourworkweek.com/2014/02/19/anxiety-attacks-2/

 

[Persej]

I want to investigate if there are other historically significant individuals born within the window of Hailey's comet appearances. I'll post back if I find something of significance!

I'm born in that period.

But I'm not sure how much historically significant individual I will be.

 

[Mr. Premise]

I'm on day 4 of my cold adaptation effort. I have a process. I start out by lifting some weights to warm up. I'm lucky in that my new house has a large Jacuzzi-type in the master bathroom. Right now our water is about 6C, so I added a bit of hot water to make it about 7.2. I start out with a regular warm shower to wash (not giving up those). Then, in the shower I cool the water down gradually. I found that if I tried to go right in the cold bath it was really hard, but once I'm wet with cold water it's easier. Then I go into the cold bath. When that gets too intense I go back to the cool then cold shower. Then I repeat that process going back and forth. Today was the first day I felt like I was used to this. It really does get easier, I thought everyone was lying about that. Especially when they say they look forward to it. Today was also the first day I got to the point of shivering. I was even able to sit in the cold water and run the jets which really intensifies the process.

As for the effects, the first day I tried this I got a headache. I think it was from the tightening up of my neck muscles from the shock. But that stopped. I also felt very tired the first couple of days.

I realized I was reading my thermometer wrong. It was actually 10C which is more reasonable and in the range the Cs recommended.

I've done 11 sessions now. The main effect has been tiredness in the evening. I also feel a bit of an elevation of blood pressure. My skin is much smoother, too. It takes a couple of hours to get some warmth back in my hands.

 

[Shanequa]

When Andromeda said, "We have missing members of our family that we need to find!"
I got a gentle punch in the belly that caused me to exhale a little sigh.
I thought "Aaah, isn't that the sweetest words you've ever heard!"
After reading the transcript twice, I went to bed and woke up the next
morning with the song, "I've Got You Under My Skin" playing in my head.

...
I've got you under my skin
I've got you deep in the heart of me
So deep in my heart you're really a part of me
I've got you under my skin
...

The Four Seasons Lyrics - Cole Porter
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9CzRSYqxg


For as long as I can remember, I have had a song singing in my head
all the waking day. The song changes if I hear a different song or if
I see or hear words that are part of a different song. It starts
as soon as I open my eyes so sometimes I take note of what I wake up
singing and wonder "where did that come from?" and "what does that mean?"

Well, that morning I knew instantly what it meant and went to read
the transcript again, and decided I should join this forum and share
this with you. I composed a post in my head but never even got a first
draft written down.

Now, many days later, I woke up with "I Remember You" playing in my head.

...
I remember, too, a distant bell and stars that fell
Like rain out of the blue

When my life is through
And the angels ask me to recall
The thrill of them all
Then I will tell them I remember, tell them I remember
Tell them I remember you
...

Slim Whitman Lyrics - Johnny Mercer
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPkUd96eBfk


A feeling of disappointment, grief and loss came over me. What if I never took
the time to tell you I've got you under my skin? What if,
when it's all done, I never took the time to connect?
Just yesterday, I said to my son, "Cold protocol and connect chakras.
Well, we're doing the cold protocol but connect chakras? What does that
mean anyway? How are we supposed to do that?"
And now, through my tears, I am composing this post and listening
to these songs and appreciating the creativity of the lyricists and
musicians, and appreciating the C's help, and appreciating you all
for everything you do!!!

My heart chakra is connecting to something, I hope it's you all.

 

[Jacques]

When Andromeda said, "We have missing members of our family that we need to find!"
I got a gentle punch in the belly that caused me to exhale a little sigh.
I thought "Aaah, isn't that the sweetest words you've ever heard!"
After reading the transcript twice, I went to bed and woke up the next
morning with the song, "I've Got You Under My Skin" playing in my head.

...
I've got you under my skin
I've got you deep in the heart of me
So deep in my heart you're really a part of me
I've got you under my skin
...

The Four Seasons Lyrics - Cole Porter
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9CzRSYqxg


For as long as I can remember, I have had a song singing in my head
all the waking day. The song changes if I hear a different song or if
I see or hear words that are part of a different song. It starts
as soon as I open my eyes so sometimes I take note of what I wake up
singing and wonder "where did that come from?" and "what does that mean?"

Well, that morning I knew instantly what it meant and went to read
the transcript again, and decided I should join this forum and share
this with you. I composed a post in my head but never even got a first
draft written down.

Now, many days later, I woke up with "I Remember You" playing in my head.

...
I remember, too, a distant bell and stars that fell
Like rain out of the blue

When my life is through
And the angels ask me to recall
The thrill of them all
Then I will tell them I remember, tell them I remember
Tell them I remember you
...

Slim Whitman Lyrics - Johnny Mercer
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPkUd96eBfk


A feeling of disappointment, grief and loss came over me. What if I never took
the time to tell you I've got you under my skin? What if,
when it's all done, I never took the time to connect?
Just yesterday, I said to my son, "Cold protocol and connect chakras.
Well, we're doing the cold protocol but connect chakras? What does that
mean anyway? How are we supposed to do that?"
And now, through my tears, I am composing this post and listening
to these songs and appreciating the creativity of the lyricists and
musicians, and appreciating the C's help, and appreciating you all
for everything you do!!!

My heart chakra is connecting to something, I hope it's you all.

Hi Shanequa,

Really happy that you decided to jump in and that you have already posted an intro.

 

[Keit]

Just yesterday, I said to my son, "Cold protocol and connect chakras.
Well, we're doing the cold protocol but connect chakras? What does that
mean anyway? How are we supposed to do that?"

Well, deciding to start participating on the forum is a good first step! In practical terms, connecting chakras means doing something together toward a mutual aim. Of course, each in their own way and utilizing their personal talents, but the idea is to apply mutual effort in the similar direction, while at the same time work toward developing deeper friendship and bond.