Would you believe that mainstream is deceptive?
Session 13 January 2024
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Bastian
The Living Force
Well, it depends... for geology, I'm more confident in science rather that in medecine, for instance.
Here, we're talking of 3 orders of magnitude (a factor 1000), which is a lot !
lilies
The Living Force
Reiki - Chi-Kung - Gurdjieff Dot Connection
1. As I described Gurdjieff's method in this post this he did "after" he "cured" the paralytic lady in the wheelchair, who could walk without problem, after that, for a while, until her mind switched back to "I'm definitely paralytic!"-mode. My favorite part of this "etheric-engineering" is how G. described the hypnotic healing effect being temporary and I wanna know exactly HOW her physiological condition went back, so she switched back to nerve-paralysis mode. Which may be possibly exactly the same as how the famous Youtube dude mentioned in the C's session (IIRC) repaired his spine. Then Orion STS saw it necessary to descend upon him to muddy the waters and contort his message.
2. Mel Gibson's Chi-Kung healing Master's method in Joe Rogan Experience 2254 - Mel Gibson. You have to see that scene, since being a masterful actor Gibson plays it out so good! But here is the transcript for brevity. (We don't have all the time in the world..) four minutes watch:
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There are octogenarian Asian grandpa Chi-Gong masters on Youtube, who can apparently telekinetically "punch" or push you and as a result you step / reel / hunch / stumble backward with an internal all-body grunt as the energy hits you.
1. As I described Gurdjieff's method in this post this he did "after" he "cured" the paralytic lady in the wheelchair, who could walk without problem, after that, for a while, until her mind switched back to "I'm definitely paralytic!"-mode. My favorite part of this "etheric-engineering" is how G. described the hypnotic healing effect being temporary and I wanna know exactly HOW her physiological condition went back, so she switched back to nerve-paralysis mode. Which may be possibly exactly the same as how the famous Youtube dude mentioned in the C's session (IIRC) repaired his spine. Then Orion STS saw it necessary to descend upon him to muddy the waters and contort his message.
2. Mel Gibson's Chi-Kung healing Master's method in Joe Rogan Experience 2254 - Mel Gibson. You have to see that scene, since being a masterful actor Gibson plays it out so good! But here is the transcript for brevity. (We don't have all the time in the world..) four minutes watch:
Gibson states many Asian masters can do Hyperkinetic Sensate Telekinesis™©℗®{my term :D}, - which I think I experienced in circa 1998 in semi-sleep: it GOES THROUGH your skin INTO YOUR BODY feels like a pair of 'Rolfing Force Wave "X-Ray"-hands', (IINM).
There are octogenarian Asian grandpa Chi-Gong masters on Youtube, who can apparently telekinetically "punch" or push you and as a result you step / reel / hunch / stumble backward with an internal all-body grunt as the energy hits you.
Professor Chaos
The Force is Strong With This One
I believe that octopuses and squids, particularly certain species, are aliens from Kantek, though I use that name with artistic licence. They possess abilities like mimicry and near-shapeshifting, allowing them to change color and camouflage in seconds, blending into their surroundings. They’re highly observant, superintelligent, cautious, and quick-thinking. They can distinguish between people and animals, interpret body language, learn tasks, and even seek help. They build houses, produce ink, and use jet propulsion. In mythology, they’ve been linked to creatures like the Kraken and Cthulhu, and perhaps inspired other legendary beings. They have ability to edit their RNA - perhaps many organisms share it, but in cephalopods, it seems faster and possibly more deliberate, enhancing their adaptability. I think we intuitively feel that they are something very different and somewhat more intelligent than us. So, for me, they are creatures from a higher density, another dimension, maybe another planet. It's just that if I were writing a science fiction novel, I would make them aliens. And it's such a vivid example of the presence of something incredible on Earth. (Of course I say this half jokingly, half seriously, but it is generally true).
[AI boosted in terms of translation].
showmustgoon
Padawan Learner
I don't know how relevant this is, but the term “Semitic” is translated as “Sami” in my language.
There is a community in the world that calls themselves Sami. They identify themselves as “we are Sami.” They are referred to as the indigenous people of Northern Europe. They do not have a country with borders. They are recognized as the true indigenous people of Europe.
Their lands were occupied by Europeans. Christians called them pagans.
Their language and culture were attempted to be eradicated. They were plundered during the Crusades. Their skulls were exhibited in European museums until a few centuries ago.
You should read the whole of "The Wave", if you want to understand, before even approaching the sessions. This has already been pointed out to you, and it is an effort that you must make for your own understanding (not to remain in ignorance).
The whole is edited for free and can be translated automatically (that is to say that it is accessible to all).
cbi
Padawan Learner
I wondering if you connected morning dew with inert gases. You see, the cosmic rays of Our Gold (Sun) and Our Silver (Moon) are what bath the dew and any salt dissolved there: the Sun nucleus (Helium) and Full Moon exosphere (Argon, Helium & Neon).
BTW, I was also researching about collecting Spiritus Mundi; if the Rosicrucian treatises are in effect (like some of the cited in A Rosicrucian Notebook, Spanish edition: Un Cuaderno Rosacruz), it could be some quantum particles of the 3rd, 2nd and 1st octaves of Walter Russell's Chart of Elements.
xahyr
Jedi
In principle, in alchemy, inert gases are not used. (They are inert!).
But, I insist, dew is only a medium, not the secret agent.
We must also remember that what is collected is the celestial influence (descending) plus the earth's breath (ascending). Dew is nourished by both movements.
One interpretation of the Spiritus Mundi is that of the spark of life.
And what about salt?
cbi
Padawan Learner
Of course. Noble gases were discovered in s. XIX, near to our “scientific” age and very remote to medieval alchemy.
But ―maybe I didn't explained myself in the best way― I'm not asserting that inert gases play a role in the alchemist's compound (Compo-Stella) per se. What I'm trying to bring to debate is that the emanation or cosmic rays play a fundamental role in the principle of the vital force (Odyle/Spiritus Mundi/Orgon/Chi), a that's where the Sun (He) and Full Moon (Ar, He & Ne) “play” the role with their positive and negative (polarized) light:
Perhaps you'd be interested in Hilarion Material (from Maurice B. Cooke, PhD... please don't confuse with another source which calls itself Ascended Master Hilarion).
Precisely... IMHO, that's where the channeled material of Walter Russell's The Universal One is the key. Of course, you can go with canonical stuff like Mary Anne Atwood's A suggestive inquiry into Hermetic Mystery, but the point is the same: Old wine in the same bottle.
I transpired my opinion in my question about collecting Spiritus Mundi.
xahyr
Jedi
Hello: Thanks for the link to Atwood's book! I wasn't familiar with it.
It's possible that Walter Russell discusses the subject from a very different angle... Anything is possible.
I only recall that the interest of alchemy lies in the elaboration of the "Elixir." And that alchemy isn't medieval, but millennia old: possibly, as Laura says in her "Secret History...", it's knowledge that has been lost or corrupted since the Golden Age.
At some point in the Middle Ages, some Master suggested that the "Stone" that transmutes into gold has the virtue of prolonging life and regenerating the body. From there, the "gold rush" began, and it wasn't long before it transformed into modern-day Chemistry.
Many interpretations on the subject are accepted.
P.S.: I just read your post about collecting the SM.
cbi
Padawan Learner
I'd like to give my two cents because I'm on the same track, trying to figure it out how it works it out. I am persuaded that thru networking we will be able to put the pieces all together and finally have the panoptic.
I humbly ask you to be patient with me because it is a long post and English is not my first language.
As you can see in this same thread, I'm behind the arcane process of collecting Spiritus Mundi. The last three years I was building, tinkering and refining a contraption to collect it in an automatic form, because I was surprised of the effects of the final product, that is, the Philosopher's Stone. I was studying the alchemical treatises and “theory” since 2008: I've tracked its origins in China as wei-dan (Chinese: wàidān 外丹, External Elixir) and nei-dan (Chinese: jïndān 金丹 internal "golden elixir") and connected, the former, with Venetian Rosicrucian procedures and methods and the latter with Mount Athos' Hesychasm disciplines (where Gurdjieff, directly or indirectly, surely learned: Cf.: Joseph Azize [Fr. Yuhanna Azize]: Gurdjieff: Mysticism, Contemplation, and Exercises).
Now, to the mud.
I'm not sure what really is Spiritus Mundi. As I see thru the repeated process to collect it that it can break through the glass barrier of the flask, so I believe it could be some quantum particles of the 3rd, 2nd and 1st octaves of Walter Russell's Chart of Elements that are dissolved on the water vapor. The catch-22 is what should be in the “empty” flask to attract and retain them? That's why I write my question to the Cs.
Around this topic is the role of the flask. You see, the vessel (being it of glass, borosilicate or quartz) is made of Silica (Si), and in the new Biology model, somatids (a.k.a. Dr. Wilhelm Reich' bions, Dr. Antoine Béchamp' microzymas) were analyzed by French physician Alain Scohy and found a five faceted crystal of silice in its core. You see, according to Béchamp and Scohy, somatids or viroids are precursors of virus and cells, and they can resist temperatures, pression, radiation, etc. and resume their activities when conditions are optimal and cluster themselves again as a virus, prokaryotes or eukaryotes cells, depending on the environment. This is called the “Pleomorphic theory.” Now, on the same “track:”
So, thanks to @Aeneas, I think here we have a big clue: the crystals stored information; Perhaps we can bind with the biological model all together and understand “cellular memory.”
Just as we can store, we can also erase erroneous information (such as trauma) and rewrite or reset the somatids with a fresh start. Of course, and using IT concepts, this could be done if there is a non-existent race condition: if the ill programmed subconscious (or whatever entity) rewrite the wrong information of the trauma, we are back at the beginning. In the book Einstein doesn't work here anymore from Maurice Cooke (1983), he describes a contraption using ionized noble gases to erase a though-form (p. 122).
Now, if we try to link it with the Pleomorphic theory, we need to asset the following question of @Joe:
This question hasn't be resolved during the session. There is a good book about Occult Chemistry which is in the topic of explain our physical elemental atoms with clairvoyant observations on the “ultimate atoms,” which can be reinterpreted, without loss of generality, with the aforementioned Russell Chart, for example, our most simple atom of Hydrogen gas is composed:
So, the “ultimate physical atom” is Russell's Alphanon?Occult Chemistry - Besant & Leadbeater (1919) - p. 9 said:
Trying to access your query of “etheric-engineering,” there is an obscure reference on Jesuit Herbert Thurston's Los Fenómenos Físicos del Misticismo, about the hagiography of a saint, San Francisco Jerónimo, who died in 1716 but his body continued to be flexible and able to comply with suggestions given orally! Thurston was an eminent academic and scholar, who studied the paranormal and he didn't bypass any detail at his glance. I recommend the aforementioned book: it has a lot of cases which can be entitled with Gurdjieff's “stupid saint,” individuals with the degree of ableness and being, but lacking the knowledge of what to do with such being and potential.
This book also address the myroblytes; According with some personal interchanges with a Rosicrucian Adept: “The effluvia of the Saints have the particularity of containing much more Spiritus Mundi than an ordinary person, and it is natural that this natural manifestation in their bodies is directed toward the blood. Under certain conditions, the blood revives as it would a body with a large amount of Spiritus Mundi.”
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xahyr
Jedi
I'm no expert: I've read more than I have done lab work. I've done some experiments, and after speaking with some more advanced "Brothers of the Art," the key is to "see" what the SM is. From there, you can take different paths to collecting it.
In fact, many people have already abandoned collecting dew because it's a very laborious and thankless method.
Apparently, there are other, more direct ways to do it. I remember the Cs once responded to Ark about collecting "unstable gravitational waves." They didn't give a direct answer, just hints. So I don't know what they would say if you asked them the question "we'd all like to ask," because I suspect they'd only give an answer if we've already discovered the answer ourselves...
cbi
Padawan Learner
That will be a great question to the Cs.
... and that will be another.
I encourage you to re-contextualize them and put it all together on the thread about collecting Spiritus Mundi.
Don't know if it fits, but along my readings I stumble upon Mathurin Eyquem du Martineau's Le Pilote de l'Onde Vive; there is a Spanish edition as El Piloto de la Onda Viva from Editorial Indigo. IMHO, the book contents are “strange” and perhaps its referring to gravity waves...
lilies
The Living Force
Genetics & UFO-toxicology & UFO-radiation expert Dr. Garry Nolan noted and hypothesized that many of the "UFO" saucer machines we see are in the "etheric realms" = hyperdimensional space e.g. 4th Density. These special atom's descriptions of yours could be also that the clairvoyant sees a hyperdimensional object, which is a ""three storey"" MULTI-ATOMIC super-structure in 4thD AND in 3rdD. BUT from it we only see and measure OUR-SIDE of this (IMO) bi-density atomic super-structure, the part which is immersed into 3rd Density - into our fish-aquarium reality: we - as fishes - only see the HAND of the 4th Density hyperdimensional-laboratory assistant as he [4thD civilian worker] immerses his hand into our aquarium='Earth 3D planetary world', to feed us and manipulate objects in our living space.
SPINNING is critically important IMO, as we have magnetic crystals in our brains and these need to SPIN if you want Alchemical Ascension, I think. C's stated so, you can expect being propelled out of 3rdD / having visions and Extra-Sensory-Experiences - even if temporarily -, if you spin: plus all kinds of ANOMALOUS TRANS-DENSITY effects will line your days per week: I can say from my spinning experiments.
A tiny motor-driven spinning circular platform - put on a workshop or kitchen table - to spin 'water in an altered-state ice-cubed' + Artesian water from the depths of the Earth, which automatically comes up STRUCTURED and also is said to preserve this structured-water quality for extended time. Deep water from 300+ feet is already in an ALTERED STATE structured water.
So what if: you use a combo-machine, a water-distiller-VAPORIZER, and you vaporize the water in a closed container, while the water is SPINNING on this tiny rotator-board? Combination of electro and magnetic effects is key, probably. So I would experiment to put the above small contraption into the center of a CIRCLE of STRONG MAGNETS to put your alchemical vapors into a strong magnetic field. Double-check and measure the field with a magnetometer to ensure that the SPINNING alchemical-vapour concoction in the centre is well INSIDE of the powerful magnetic field.
Fulcanelli said his pre-philosophers-stone concoction needed to be AIRED UNDER THE STARS at night completely avoiding moonlight!! (IIRC)
I experimented with putting on a cloth-headband during 140 minutes of fasted sprinting exercise and:
1. collected sweat-water from the headband into a bottle, because from the lot of spinning exercises maybe the water in my body MAY HAVE BEEN become structured?? / magnetized???
2. poured it into a brown glass pill-bottle and placed LEAD pieces into it (bought in an fishing shop for angler tools).
3. I bought a long thin yellow copper wire and made it into V-shape: bent the LEGS so it could easily descend into that bottle and touch the water / into the sweat-water with the lead pieces and put the top of the V-shape onto the skin of my throat (vocal cords) and sat down into a meditating position and while:
(A) whistling
(B) I also made a normal singing sound in my throat to mimic UYGHUR NOMAD THROAT SINGING
STYLE to produce VIBRATIONS, which were transferred downward LED DOWN along the yellow copper wire - pressed onto my throat - into the ""alchemical??"" sweat-water, where the LEAD pieces resided. I should have experimented more with that maybe.
ULTRASOUND and HIGH-FREQUENCY SOUND WAVE IRRADIATION experiment:
Since ultrasound vibration can stop fire and make it disappear entirely and also sound waves can create structured images ==> so then why not TRY to change the structure of ATOMS this way? I think also atomic composition of matter can be CHANGED with such a sound-wave/high-frequency ultrasound IRRADIAtoR device, while YOUR ALCHEMICAL VAPOUR concoction is SPUN on that proposed ROTATOR PLATE DEVICE, while the vapours ON that plate are spinning and are bombarded with sound waves also. While the device also resides in a STRONG MAGNETIC FIELD.
I think this way creating ROTATED CHARGED MASSES of atoms is a promising way to experiment. There are small ventilators on YT driven NOT by electric force, but only by a circularly arranged group of magnets and they are SPINNING FOREVER without any electric motor. So magnetic spinning I think is worth experimenting with to leave your alchemical concoction forever spinning.
Also Gurdjieff and other free energy researchers allegedly mentioned that the EMOTIONAL-MENTAL STATE OF BELIEVING / DISBELIEVING of the experimenter AFFECTED the efficiency of free energy generators. So I would also take care that my body's OUTWARD EM RADIATION = AURA is properly structured with positive BELIEF.
If you have strong genetics geared towards "aura-projection" so other people often mention they can feel YOUR PRESENCE: then you can experiment with this affecting your alchemical vapour concoction as well. The aura, the human energy field that surrounds you containing some of your thoughts and you can see it if you meditate for 15+ minutes it will appear as a colorful blue-silverwhite-yellow-green pulsating cloud-field also MAY AFFECT your alchemical experiments.
I would experiment, but I'm snowed in with my (A) Project C and my (B) regular 3D-work Pension Project and have ZERO TIME to experiment unfortunately.
But you seem to HAVE put this as YOUR MAIN LIFE GOAL ACTIVITY, so I think you have much better chances to SUCCEED.
I would study UFO engine construction, you can find the patents on the net, also look on YT and sites how different UFO engines are constructed. Especially The Nazi UFO Saucer material, the different engines they used (Schauberger levitator, etc...) ==> search keyword
JENSEITSFLUGMASCHINE
will give you the technological ideas for your vapour-rotator device.
I would build the following rotator platform device and put my alchemical experiment on top of it TO SPIN THE VAPOURS: a set of magnetized, thin metal circular plates PUT ABOVE EACH OTHER rotating COUNTER to each other:
1. top STEEL or COPPER plate counter-clockwise
2. Middle metal plate rotating clockwise
3. bottom plate rotating counter-clockwise
- DESTROYING THE SYMMETRY of classical normal mechanical engineering, I think, would make a nice basic ROTATOR PLATE MACHINE.
This all enclosed in a strong magnetic field + also electromagnetically irradiated, so the electric field - CURRENT - can be measured inbetween in the area of the plates. Sort of a miniature, not dangerous Tesla charge? Then measure any changes in your WATER-VAPOUR alchemical composition? If there is any promising change, then I would hire a good electrical engineer to MAKE IT BIG and make the necessary industrial precautions put the entire contraption into a massive electrically charged, dangerous high voltage Tesla field, turn it on so the platform would rotate your alchemical vapour container and throw sparks and then turn it off after a while and measure if there are any changes in the vapour composition / behavior?
UFO engine researchers pondering high-speed rotating UFO-engines inside the saucers, alluded that extreme high energy fields change the units of space time, so those ??shall?? also change the composition of alchemical matter?? ==> unify it finally, so it becomes something closer to a philosophers stone or similar usable product??
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