Session 14 June 2014

[John G]

Thanks for the session.

A: Act in ways that support already initiated efforts and thereby connect energies that will attract to yourselves what is needed at the right time. If you dissipate group energy where you are then you will have to deal with the attendant blowbacks.

Look like key points of the session. If "supporting already initiated efforts" is crystal clear, does anyone have an idea how to interpret the "connect energies" advice in practical way?

I think this may be related:

A: You are doing well and things around are heating up!! Not to worry though, as all is moving along well. The more help you get, the more your energy will increase and benefit those helping. For now, goodbye.

I interpret that it's very important to help as much as possible to Laura & the group (in whatever possible way for each other who can help) and continuing networking in a daily basis which can be useful for the whole network or for whichever small group. As it seems everything is accelerating or at least that is my impression.

You connect energies by supporting already initiated efforts, at least that's how it reads to me. The Chateau and Tobacco House crews are putting their efforts into a bunch of different projects, and by helping them and becoming more involved with them you are adding your energy to theirs which creates more opportunities for things to happen. Or so I think.

This was the part that stuck out to me as well, as I've been wanting and thinking of ways to give more energy to the group.

Yeah networking in this forum has kind of always been my contribution but Shijing and 1984 as moderators obviously do that too. I'm in Tucson so maybe I have to worry about being part of the poor quality group connection here too. I'm Catholic, my wife is a Catholic school teacher, my kids go to Catholic schools so I kind of figured the FOTCM like the QFG was not for me but I did recently join the FOTCM. First I noticed Laura mentioning she didn't care if someone was Catholic and in the FOTCM, then these recent sessions caused my wife to mention that I might as well join. My wife isn't as colinear about things here as I am but she does like the sessions. I was vacationing in upstate NY when this session was held so I wouldn't have been able to join the session even if it had made sense for me to do so.

 

[Psalehesost]

Some times maybe, but not forever, I think. After all, "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results." And the Universe is neither crazy nor dumb - so if the experiment has a "goal" of any kind, I'd expect some variation. Also, I think the Universe is just too creative to repeat the exact same thing over and over.

It looks to me like the experiment has repeated many times throughout human history already, with minor variations in the parameters. (Different civilizations, same dynamics, same outcomes.) Given that, I'd think the Universe would eventually try another design - the old one has already had a very extensive trial - probably keeping whatever good fruits the old one yielded.

I was thinking when mentioning perimeters more in a terms of lessons staying the same which means conditions for the lessons are much or less same such as social conditions, politics, etc... You are right that there are variations you mentioned above but in the end looking from broader picture it is more or less the same thing, different package same thing. Variations are minor factor while catalyst enviroment is more important. Individual who is working on self tries to be independent from outside influences and get under inside influences, so even if the outside is all the same he would not remember it in new lifetimes and would try to become free because it is all the same in a way no matter of variations and they are irrelevant for his growth. Yes there would be variations as you said: different civilizations, technology, etc, ...( is it there Atlantis or NATO it is irrelevant, with all the ancient knowledge available results were not much different then today because of "human nature", today if there was that knowledge and abbilities present would anything change for majority or would they be even more power hungry? History repeating itself) but the criteria stays the same for all in terms of lessons which every one has to learn to get to new level, there is no making it easier through variations because lessons not passed do not go away. That is at least as I see it. Hope I explained it more to make it understandable.

I think I expressed myself a bit unclearly. I meant that there's been a long-running experiment where minor variations have occurred (indeed, they are minor - the same dynamics, or as you said, "different package same thing"). And following this long-running experiment, where the outcome has been consistent, with a new grand cycle (where past, present, and future all change, and possibly the laws of the Universe as well) the Universe may come up with a more substantially different design.

What could such a design be like? No idea. But just guessing, I think the lessons may be very similar or the same, but perhaps the circumstances under which they are to be learned may change in some way. Perhaps the human species, having largely "failed", would be replaced by some other "model" which may prove more evolutionarily "fit" in the face of the challenges met, i.e. can learn and respond better. And/or, perhaps planetary circumstances would be different in some other significant way(s) - too many possibilities to imagine.

With tweaks to the nature of the participants - be it to the species and/or to the environment in which they live, which affects them - they may face the same challenges in a different way, and their history and civilizations may turn out completely different - perhaps different beyond what we can imagine. The Earth and humanity as we know them, after all, are just one of infinite possibilities. (And I think endless variations already exist throughout the Universe which are beyond our imagination.)

But of course, there's no way to know what'll happen in advance. Just speculating...

 

[irjO]

Yeah networking in this forum has kind of always been my contribution but Shijing and 1984 as moderators obviously do that too. I'm in Tucson so maybe I have to worry about being part of the poor quality group connection here too. I'm Catholic, my wife is a Catholic school teacher, my kids go to Catholic schools so I kind of figured the FOTCM like the QFG was not for me but I did recently join the FOTCM. First I noticed Laura mentioning she didn't care if someone was Catholic and in the FOTCM, then these recent sessions caused my wife to mention that I might as well join. My wife isn't as colinear about things here as I am but she does like the sessions. I was vacationing in upstate NY when this session was held so I wouldn't have been able to join the session even if it had made sense for me to do so.

Thing is, you are catholic because you believe in Catholicism? if not then that is way it doesn't matter for FOTCM, My family is catholic, my city is VERY catholic and I studied in a catholic school but I don't believe in catholicism anymore obviously after I discovered the reality of it.

 

[John G]

Thing is, you are catholic because you believe in Catholicism? if not then that is way it doesn't matter for FOTCM, My family is catholic, my city is VERY catholic and I studied in a catholic school but I don't believe in catholicism anymore obviously after I discovered the reality of it.

No even before finding this forum, I was into Jungian/Gnostic ideas and off the beaten path Catholics like Teilhard de Chardin. I liked Gurdjieff a little too via the Jesuit interest in the Enneagram (the Jesuits are also into Jung). I'm still into an early Catholic, Ramon Llull, who gets related to Gurdjieff via the Enneagram.

 

[irjO]

Thing is, you are catholic because you believe in Catholicism? if not then that is way it doesn't matter for FOTCM, My family is catholic, my city is VERY catholic and I studied in a catholic school but I don't believe in catholicism anymore obviously after I discovered the reality of it.

No even before finding this forum, I was into Jungian/Gnostic ideas and off the beaten path Catholics like Teilhard de Chardin. I liked Gurdjieff a little too via the Jesuit interest in the Enneagram (the Jesuits are also into Jung). I'm still into an early Catholic, Ramon Llull, who gets related to Gurdjieff via the Enneagram.

Have you read The Secret History vol 1 and 2? It could give you an idea of how religion known today is very distorted from the beginning

 

[John G]

Thing is, you are catholic because you believe in Catholicism? if not then that is way it doesn't matter for FOTCM, My family is catholic, my city is VERY catholic and I studied in a catholic school but I don't believe in catholicism anymore obviously after I discovered the reality of it.

No even before finding this forum, I was into Jungian/Gnostic ideas and off the beaten path Catholics like Teilhard de Chardin. I liked Gurdjieff a little too via the Jesuit interest in the Enneagram (the Jesuits are also into Jung). I'm still into an early Catholic, Ramon Llull, who gets related to Gurdjieff via the Enneagram.

Have you read The Secret History vol 1 and 2? It could give you an idea of how religion known today is very distorted from the beginning

I've read Comets and the Horns of Moses and Earth Changes and the Human-Cosmic Connection and the parts of the first Secret History of the World volume that Laura has posted and yes it's now impossible to read the Bible without seeing comets everywhere. My wife laughs when I keep saying in relation to something Biblical, "yeah but it was really comets". Even the legend my favorite singer got into via her song "Rhiannon" - it's comets.

 

[Lucius]

Thx for shearing the session

 

[Andrian]

Thank you very much to all participated for the new session.

(Perceval) Over a period of five days in a few different countries, and at different times planes "disappeared" for a few seconds.

(L) Well, I know that.

(Perceval) It was NATO exercises, probably. And they don't want to talk about it.

(L) And it says the first disappearance problems coincided with NATO conducting electronic warfare exercises in Hungary. And they reported that on June 7th. During the exercises, NATO was reportedly using devices that can interfere with enemy radar according to the Telegraph. German air traffic control stated they were trying to identify the cause of the outages... So there's a little bit of confusion with these stories here, and I'm wondering is this actually what was going on? That NATO was conducting planned military exercises, whose goal was the interruption of radio communication frequencies? Is that actually what they were doing?

A: No, not even close!

Q: (Pierre) Was it some density glitch?

(L) Were these hyperdimensional or 4D bleedthrough glitches?

A: Yes. Just like Flight 370.

Indeed the changes are speeding up it seems,in very interesting times we live.

 

[weasel3d]

Interesting session. Some topics keep coming up in these recent sessions, concerning what we can do---and how to do it.

Q: (Shijing) Okay. I don't know if it's worth asking what is within my control. Given what...
A: That's the problem: your control. It is lacking when it comes to yourself, and excessive when it comes to her.

This bit hit home with me. I'm getting good in recent years, tempering my need to control others, with my personal leanings. But, I'm not that good at practicing this with people who are very close to me.

I don't have the same patience that I do with people who I have a little less attachment to. This is especially true with issues where I've learned a thing or two that I don't 'believe' they are aware of. The intentions may seem right to try to effect your loved ones. After all, we're thinking in terms of their survival, aren't we. But it's actually more towards STO to allow them to process their own spiritual business and do it using their own will. Using psychological means to get them to your personal perspective, is no different than the psy-ops that STS relies upon---is it?

It's so close to home, that it's hard to see it within ourselves through the 'charged' emotional content. But, I think that the close proximity in our personal relations make this a biggie and a fundamental area to work on. It's on my high priority list.

BTW, I've been looking at emotional content, in terms of electrical charges that need to be discharged to find balance as they build up, since reading the new electrical universe book. It's seems very clear that the whole shebang here, works on the same principles, wherever you look. Meditation, breathing, (I think) spinning...and concious actions are helpful in effecting emotional charge buildups, I've found.

Continue the good work everybody.

 

[Musashi]

Thank You All! Very interesting....

I sure would like to hear more about the Experiment and the ideas behind it... but I guess we'll have to "wait and see'

Q: (T) What is the experiment about?
A: Too complicated for you to understand.

And to think we all volunteered for this, heh...

This site, this group, this life is just amazing!!!

Thanks Again!!!

 

[goyacobol]

First of all Thanks to all for this session! :)

And, Casper,

I think with what we know so far we can not compete with the competition,but we can alleviate some events.Some of you that can satisfied,but whether you have ever seen with your own eyes what a men can make a another man in anger?If those things are going now,what will just be when the wave comes?Make me afraid!

Cassiopeia's have said that the process of prediction always breaks on the mathematical process,which is the only universal real languages.How many answers that they gave us perhaps unintentionally misunderstood?
They say that all Indeed,the illusion is reality and illusion are expanding our consciousness and until he was withdrawn from the illusion on time,we will not improvement.It is only a time an illusion,given the expansion of consciousness is it an illusion and who is the chief scientist in the universe who pulls all the strings?Creator?Creator of what?

Change will come and I believe it will come to panics.You have to be confident,but one that is stronger that oppresses.

Hang in there buddy, I think we all sense some of the feelings you are having about current and soon coming events as they unfold.

I had to fill in some of the blanks on some of your wording so correct me if I get it wrong where you say "but one that is stronger that oppresses"
I think you mean "but one has to be stronger than one that oppresses". I hope that is what you meant.

Thanks again to all,

goyacobol

 

[Graalsword]

Thanks for another very interesting session. And with the participation of many members from all over the world, I saw how many experiences and issues they have are very similar to mine. And it helped me see how I have been telling myself a lot of excuses to not participate very often in the forum and the many projects were our help is needed

 

[Wisteria]

Regarding humanity being an experiment, it would probably be useful for everyone to read Bryant Shiller's book "The 5th Option" for his excellent back-engineering of the Living System. I would say that as to the "who" and "why", it is simply what LIFE does. And LIFE is the creative aspect of All that Is.

A most excellent read. I have recommended this book to everyone I know who is interested in evolution and the origin of life. Unfortunately they all seem to like quick fixes of information and won't take to time to read it. :(

Thank you for another enlightening session! The thread discussion has been very interesting reading too.

 

[casper]

For Qoyacobol

I just think that what I wrote:
One that is stronger,that oppresses,he is oppressor,he is vicious

 

[piliangie]

Many many thanks !! kisses.