Session 17 August 2024

This post may not belong to this thread but perhaps in an indirect way. It has sort of hit me recently that one of the reasons for the Illuminati and similar groups to exist and particularly the emergence of undergrounders is to carry out the "depopulation" agenda. And this is being done in a way whereby there is minimal free-will infringement. E.g. the sole invention of pharma industry and fake diseases is just to hoodwink people into drinking poison off their own free will, which then kills them or destroys their ability to reproduce. It fits in nicely with 4D STS plan to take over this planet and our bodies post-transition. Trying to kill us directly has much greater karmic blow-backs for 4D STS vs getting the 3D denizens to do it to themselves.

Similarly, everything else that we are seeing going down the tube is ultimately designed to starve or kill the human population, the modus operandi being that humans must do this to each other acting in their self-interest and in control of their free-will.
The Illuminati could be said to be from the big STS leagues since their DNA has a certain merit of purity and there we have the "emperor" or leader who could have a more real lineage among these and could have greater powers remembering that the STS has a narrow limit so they are not invincible.
Surely they know how this reality works, they would have knowledge of ancient texts that are not for the public and they would be masters in the black arts, preserving their young bodies at ages much higher than normal.
But I wonder what their preparation would be like since they were children?
 
The Cs have often said, "Help is on the way." I wonder if it is a reference to The Quorum restoring balance?

For reference, here is prior (to 2024) information given by the Cs about The Quorum.

16 October 1994
Q: (L) Is Freemasonry as it is practiced today the same?
A: 33rd degree, yes.
Q: (L) So, there is a continuing tradition for over 7 thousand years?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is this organization with a plan to take over and rule the world?
A: Not exactly.
Q: (L) What is their focus?
A: Overseers.
Q: (L) Of what?
A: The status of quorum.
Q: (L) What is the quorum?
A: Deeper knowledge organization. Totally secret to your kind as of yet. Very important with regard to your future.
Q: (L) In what way?
A: Changes.
Q: (L) Can you get more specific? Is that changes to us personally?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Earth changes?
A: Also.
Q: (L) What is the relationship between this quorum and the Cassiopaeans?
A: They communicate with us regularly.
Q: (L) Do they do this knowing you are Cassiopaeans or do they do it thinking...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Has there been an ongoing relationship between the Cassiopaeans and this quorum for these thousands of years?
A: For some time as you measure it.

25 October 1994
Q: (L) Is the Quorum composed of members who are humans on this planet?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Would we know any of them as well known figures?
A: Hidden. None you would know.
Q: (L) How is the Quorum important in regard to the Earth changes?
A: Watchers.
Q: (L) Why is it important to have watchers?
A: Keep track of prophecies.
Q: (L) How do the Masons relate to the Illuminati?
A: Masons are low level branch.

12 November 1994
Q: (L) On a number of occasions we talked about the quorum and the Illuminati. They both seem to be the highest levels of
secret organizations. What is their relationship to each other?
[...]
A: Quorum mostly alien; illuminati mostly human.
Q: (L) Well, the quorum has been described...
A: Meet; two halves of whole.
Q: (L) Well the quorum seems to be described as being in touch with the Cassiopaeans, that is, yourselves, which you have
described as beneficial beings, is this correct?
A: Close.
Q: (L) The illuminati has been described as being behind or with the brotherhood which has been described as being in
connection with the Lizard beings...
A: Close. But not that simple.
Q: (L) Well, if the quorum is the good guys and the illuminati is the bad guys, and they both are at the high levels of
Freemasonry, what is the story here?
A: Picture a circle or cycle first now then contemplate for a moment before follow up.
Q: (L) Okay, I am contemplating a cycling circle.
A: Now, two halves representing positive and negative. Two halves.
Q: (L) Well, what I am getting out of that is the two halves and both sides are playing with the human race. Is that it?
A: No. This is complicated but if you can learn and understand, it will be a super revelation.
Q: (L) Well, go ahead and explain.
A: Ask step by step.
Q: (L) Why do we so often have to ask things step by step?
A: In order to absorb the information.
Q: (L) The quorum is described as the good guys. The illuminati is described as bad guys. And yet, they are both Masonic.
When a person in the Masonic organization reaches the higher levels, are there individuals at the higher levels recruiting
masons to one side or the other?
A: First, not exactly one side or another.
Q: (L) I am beginning to not understand something here because if the Lizzies...
A: Unblock.
Q: (L) I don't have a block here. If the brotherhood AKA illuminati AKA Lizzies AKA beast are the ones who are going to do
detrimental things to this planet, how are they related or connected to the quorum which is in touch with...
A: This will take time to explain be patient it will be worth it.
Q: (L) Well, are you going to explain it right now?
A: Ask step by step.
Q: (L) Okay. What is the nature of evil?
A: Blend.
Q: (L) Are the Lizzies what we would consider to be evil?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are the Cassiopaeans what we would consider to be good?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Yet, do the Cassiopaeans use and manipulate the Lizzies to accomplish certain things?
A: No.
Q: (L) The Lizzies work independently and in opposition to the Cassiopaeans?
A: Independently, not in opposition.
Q: (L) Well then, is there somebody over and above this whole project...
A: We serve others therefore there is no opposition. Careful now. Step by step. If you do not fully understand answer ask
another.
Q: (L) Part of a whole. Part of a circle.
A: Blend.
Q: (L) Does this mean...
A: Picture a blending colored circle image.
Q: (L) Are you saying that at some levels the two halves overlap?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Are you saying that some of the Quorum are good guys and bad guys and the same for the Illuminati because the two are
on opposing sides of the circle but at the point of blending one is weighted more to one side and the other to the other
side? And these organizations are where the interactions come together?
A: Closer.
Q: (L) Let's leave it for the time being.
A: No. Now please.
Q: (L) Okay. So it is a blending. Does it have something to do with ... in your case service to others means that you even
serve those who serve self, is that correct?
A: Yes; we serve you and the Lizards have programed your race to self service remember.
Q: (L) Well, I am down a notch or two. So, I am still a service to self individual to some extent, is that correct?
A: But moving slowly toward service to others. Not all humans are.
Q: (L) Does this mean that when people who are members of the quorum or illuminati call for information or help, that you,
because of your service to others orientation are obliged to answer whoever calls?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) What is the no part.
A: If vibrational frequencies are out of pattern we do not connect.
Q: (L) Is the work of the Lizzies part of an overall grand plan or design?
A: All is.
Q: (L) Let's go on. I am depressed because you guys told me I was a bad person.
A: You are not a bad person.
Q: (L) Well, I am feeling pretty crummy right now.
A: Lizzies induced.
Q: (L) You mean my crummy feelings are Lizzie induced?
A: As always.
Q: (L) Well I am feeling crummy because you guys let me know that I am in the same sinking boat as the rest of the poor slobs
on this miserable planet. I was working pretty hard to get out of the boat.
A: Silliness; you're in your own boat.
Q: (L) I would like to know where Dr. Usui got the Reiki symbols?
A: Must answer question.
Q: (L) What question? The quorum and illuminati question?
A: You will feel ecstasy once answered.
Q: (L) Okay. A blending. Yet two halves.
A: Of a circle.
Q: (L) Who designed this circle?
A: Natural frequency wave. Some near conjunction blend both service patterns and each "camp" to create perfect balance.
Q: (L) Okay, so the Illuminati are the higher level on the pathway of service to self and somehow, by reaching these higher
levels may have come to realizations or frequencies which have caused their position to be modified or blended to where
service to self becomes or incorporates or moves them to service to others realizations, is this correct?
A: Continue.
Q: (L) Okay, the ones in the quorum are those who are focused on service to others and they, in their pathway of service to
others begin to understand that some service to self is service to others.
A: Close.
Q: (L) And the whole idea is to blend both pathways no matter which direction you come to it from?
A: Service to others provides the perfect balance of those two realities; service to self is the diametrical opposite closing
the grand cycle in perfect balance.
Q: (L) So it is necessary to have a pathway of service to self in order for the pathway of service to others to exist?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And those who are in the quorum and the illuminati ...
A: Blends in middle.
Q: (L) So it is necessary to have the darkness in order to have the light...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And it is necessary to have the Lizzies in order to have the Cassiopaeans...
A: Close.
Q: (L) And both groups evolved through the Masonic organizations..
A: Freemasonry is human reflection in physical of these processes.

16 September 1995
Q: (L) Is it true that there is an enclave of alchemists that live somewhere in the Pyrenees...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is this the group that you referred to as "The Quorum" in a previous session?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Do these alchemists use this power as talked about by David Hudson to enhance their longevity and their physical health?
A: And to control.
24 September 1995
Q: (L) Okay, square one: Is the quorum composed of humans who have been alchemists, who are presently in possession of a
substance called "the elixir of life" and which David Hudson calls "monoatomic gold?"
A: And much, much more! Monoatomic gold is but one minor issue here. Why get lead astray by focusing upon it solely. It would
be akin to focusing on the fact that "Batman" can fly! Is that the only important thing that "Batman" does in the story? Is it?
Q: (L) Of course not! (R) Batman fights crime!
A: What we mean is that alchemy is but one minor piece of the puzzle.
Q: (L) Okay, I understand. But, understanding the alchemical connection, and its potential for extending life and opening
certain abilities, makes it more feasible to think of a group that has been present steadily and consistently for many
thousands of years on earth.
A: They are not the only ones!
Q: (L) Oh! I knew I was opening a can of worms!

11 November 1995
Q: (L) Are we talking in terms of this 33 relating to a group of "aliens," or a group of humans with advanced knowledge and
abilities?
A: Either/or.
Q: (L) Is this what has been referred to in the Bramley book [Gods of Eden] as the Brotherhood of the Serpent or Snake?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is this also what you have referred to as the Quorum?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, we have a bunch of people who are playing with mathematics, and playing with higher knowledge, basically as a keep
busy activity to distract them at the human level from the fact that they are being manipulated at a higher level. Is this
what is going on? Or, do they consciously know what they are doing? Is it a distraction or a conscious choice?
A: Both.
Q: (L) If I were to name some names, could you identify if named individuals were involved in this secret group?
A: It would not be in your best interests.
Q: (L) Is there anything more on this 33 number that I should look at now?
A: No. You need to contemplate.

29 March 1997
Q: (Laura) OK, do you have any other comments to make about SB? What did they say now, that maybe the same funding as
Lindemann was behind them also. How about, what would you call it... the Quorum. Is the Quorum behind it?
A: Yes.
Q: (Laura) OK, is the Quorum the group we're supposed to be looking for? (Terry) We have to go back and ask about the Quorum.
We've got so many characters, it's worse than X-Files!
A: No, more interesting.
Q: (Terry) Yes, it is, definitely!
A: World banking conglomerate.
Q: (Terry) World bank. (Laura) I do not wish to be 'owned' in that way...
A: Not easy to avoid.
Q: (Laura) Well, I know it's not easy to avoid.
A: Will become even more difficult soon.
Q: (Laura) Well, they didn't say impossible... they just said difficult. But, on the other hand, I don't know if I want to do
more difficult... well, we've got so much difficult... (Terry) ...That it's easy now!
A: Many interesting things to happen.
Q: (Laura) To happen? Where, when, how, why, and to whom?
A: You. And everyone else in your realm... Expect revelations.

18 December 2021
(Sid) During 'the seven passes of Venus' as described in Pierre’s book, were there any direct and visible lightning
discharges between Venus and Earth?
A: Oh indeed!!!
Q: (Joe) Visible by whom?
(L) What do you mean?
(Joe) Were there people on the planet at that time?
(L) Well, yeah. Ask Pierre.
(Joe) He doesn't know either.
(L) Read the book!
(Pierre) 5000 years ago.
(L) So, I guess some of those discharges may have looked like the z-pinch plasma figures that gave rise to some of the
depictions of humanoid-looking pictures on rock paintings and carvings. Okay:
(Sid) Do the Quorum or the PTB know the exact location and timings of "the big one"?
A: No.
Q: (Sid) Or are they a bit clueless too?
A: More than a bit.

23 September 2023
Q: (Approaching Infinity) In the 9/21/1996 session, you said Thor's Pantheum was both STS and STO like the quorum and the
description of the Nordic covenant, which sounds like both sides are involved in influencing creative types, but they are not
technically working together. But if Thor's Pantheum is located mostly underground, does that mean that some are STO?
A: Yes
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Since the projecting is only mostly done underground, are the ones who aren't underground, the STO
ones?
A: Can be both. Your thinking is too black and white.
Q: (L) Is it because STS and STO can, in a sense, coexist in similar physical space without intermingling or being maybe...
not even seeing each other? I mean, is it because their frequencies are different? Something like that?
A: Close.
 
Many thanks to all involved for this excellent session :flowers:
The divine intervention made me very thoughtful.
My interpretation. The quorum thus testifies that there is an instance between the Creator and 3D in the universal hierarchy. The inviolable rule of the game - never violate free will - influences the Quorum in its decisions. As we know, STS has found a solution. When truth becomes a lie, a false opinion is formed which is linked to a false decision. Man decides with his free will on the basis of false knowledge. A blatant breach of the universal law through deception.
This involves the risk that the lie will be exposed at some point and that one will switch sides out of anger or frustration. The possibility that the other chosen side has more STO is great. The other danger is that the liars are exposed - they and their group lose their credibility, power and strength. In this way, they wipe themselves out. The psychopath's greatest fear is being discovered - this can lead to his extinction.
The way 4DSTS works only works as long as there are enough 3DSTS to protect and camouflage the project. If there is disclosure and exposure, the lie will be exposed in the long run, which will cause a realization and conversion in some people.
STO in the Quorum may only monitor compliance with universal balance and free will. They know that 4DSTS always destroys itself.
It becomes difficult when the free will of an individual person or a group of souls has to be respected. Added to this is the karmic destiny, which nobody knows. Somewhere the Cs have said that souls join together before birth to go into 5D together on a certain event on 3D. To me that would explain why the cruelty in Palestine is not ended despite mass prayers. Gaza to me is not a change in the program but rather the possibility of influencing a future timeline or a great possibility by awakening the viewers.
Open prayers are open energies used by the highest authority where it is needed for the grand plan. This is what STO thrives on.
Personal prayers do not change the personal lesson, but make it more bearable for the person concerned.

That would be my personal interpretation - perhaps I have misunderstood everything.
 
The Illuminati could be said to be from the big STS leagues since their DNA has a certain merit of purity and there we have the "emperor" or leader who could have a more real lineage among these and could have greater powers remembering that the STS has a narrow limit so they are not invincible.
Surely they know how this reality works, they would have knowledge of ancient texts that are not for the public and they would be masters in the black arts, preserving their young bodies at ages much higher than normal.
But I wonder what their preparation would be like since they were children?
You'll need to read the Billionaire Banker series novels to get a better understanding of how these group of families operate and how they rear their children. I don't think they have an emperor per se with greater powers rather they have collective access to greater wealth, resources, and tech to carry out their agenda. They would generally elect a leader for a certain period based on their mental prowess and experience in managing tough situations/challenges. Any powerful individuals in terms of superhuman abilities would be the undergrounders themselves; assuming they are directly married into these families in the present time.

Also, to add, they will be aware of the present realities and historical truths but being of the wishful thinking type, they are susceptible to their own hubris. E.g. they would be of the firm belief that they will be saved by their overlords or if not, then their underground hold-outs will be strong enough to keep them going, allowing them to pop-out again and continue to be of value to the 4D STS. They don't want to let go of the power they have accumulated over other humans either. They will happily server another 4D STS master if it came to that. Such things are well known and understood in the STS circles and participants are aware of their usefulness as well as dispensability. All of this jockeing for power actually makes them blind to the reality and truth, even if it was staring in their face.
 
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The Illuminati could be said to be from the big STS leagues since their DNA has a certain merit of purity and there we have the "emperor" or leader who could have a more real lineage among these and could have greater powers remembering that the STS has a narrow limit so they are not invincible.
Surely they know how this reality works, they would have knowledge of ancient texts that are not for the public and they would be masters in the black arts, preserving their young bodies at ages much higher than normal.
But I wonder what their preparation would be like since they were children?

But then, see what I just posted a minute ago:

 
It's fascinating to see the Quorum in action, even if we don't fully understand the mechanisms. We are witnessing real action by this group in the face of growing STS. It's fascinating to be able to “feel” this phenomenon, to become aware of the chess matches between densities. It's worth remembering that the C's had stipulated that the Earth was at a confluence point, a sort of weighting point in this galactic battle. Thanks to all participants.✨
 
Thank you Laura, Chateau and the C's!

To be fair they've only being saying help is on the way for roughly 30 years! 🤣

In all seriousness the group seems to find answers when they're needed most. The proof is in the proverbial vaccine protocol pudding. You've got the right stuff!!

Thank you for Everything.
 
Session Date: August 17th 2024

Laura and Andromeda at the board

Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Leia, Bella, Falkor

FOTCM Members attending via Zoom:

3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe, Aeneas, aimarok, Alana, Alejo, Altair, aluminumfalcon, anartist, annp, Approaching Infinity, Arwenn, Aya, Bluefyre, bobo08, brandon, cassandra, ClaudiaYG, Cosmos, Deliverance, Domi, Dugdeep, Eboard10, Ellipse, Ennio, Fabric, France, Gawan, Glenn, Gottathink, Herondancer, Hesper, Hesperides, hlat&wife, honzap, iamthatis, irjO, Iscreamsandwish, Jacques, JeanneT, JEEP, Jefferson, Jenn, jess, Joan, Josi, KariBaba, Keyhole, KJN, Laurs, Lilou, Loreta, LQB, luc, Lucius, maiko, maret760, Mark, Mark7, Martina, Mike, Mililea, Miracle, mkrnhr, Mrs. Peel, msante, Navigator, Neema, Neil, Nicholas, Nienna, Obi, Ollie, Oxajil, Pophistorian, Puma, RedFox, rrraven, Ryan, rylek, ryu, Seamus, seek10, seeker2seer, Stoneboss, sToRmR1dR, thorbjorn, Timótheos, Tomek, Tuatha de Danaan, Turgon, voyageur, whitecoast, Windmill Knight, Yas, Ysus, Z…, Zim

Q: (L) So let's see if we can get going here... All right. Hello?

A: Love to all from Siennoraea of Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Why are we so slow? Is our board…?

(Andromeda) We need powder?

(L) I dunno. Maybe we need a little light dusting. It feels staticky. We've got static on our glass here.

(Joe) It's probably got moisture on it too from the past few weeks.

(L) Well, yeah. It's been pretty damp. Oh, the introduction: Today is August 17, 2024. [Review of those present]

[Break while Andromeda finds talc to lubricate (and gently perfume) the board...]

(L) You couldn't find the usual ones, so we're going to have rose. Isn't that a nice smell? Lovely. Where did you get this one? Outta my bathroom?

(Andromeda) Mm-Hmm.

(L) Stealing my stuff! [laughter]

(Andromeda) For a good cause!

(L) All right, now here we go... Okay. We had our introduction. I gave the date, the time, or the attendees and so forth. So we're ready to go. Are we ready to go with questions?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Oh, that's much better. Okay. I wanna talk about this alleged Illuminati insider. His name is S_ S__, but he introduced himself as “The Ruiner” by writing a blog. And, according to our AI synopsis:

He presents a narrative on the secretive operations of the so-called Illuminati, a group he claims to have been raised within. He describes his various roles from training others in telekinetic attack to teaching the operation of cloned bodies, and ultimately, disinforming a government agency about paranormal activities. His transition through these roles reflects his struggle with the moral implications of his actions and his “abundant” conscience.

(L) Okay, well, we're not going to go through that document completely, but he says, first of all, that ascending to a higher density isn't what the human experience is about. So he negates the C's on that point. And I'm not going to be asking argumentative questions like this, so don't get in an uproar here. And here he says, “I don't think that anyone doesn't have a soul, but there are certainly people who are very disconnected and running on autopilot.” But it just reflects two types of people: the transhumanist versus the organic or the natural ones. The NPCs, he says, (or what we would call OPs), are on a different frequency. They choose not to see things. He says, "I don't think it's the case of them not having a soul in the body. I think it's just that they weren't resonating. I think it's temporary." Is there any comment about that?

A: Soul smashing anyone?

Q: (L) Hmm? What does that mean?

A: Those with souls can be "smashed". Those without simply merge back in the pool.

Q: (L) Okay. He says that what AI programs are studying is our magic - that is, humans' magic - which he defines as what we as humans are organically capable of. Any comment?

A: Any living creature on Earth is organic. Humans have souls. At least half of them. Doing anything organically is nothing special.

Q: (L) So you're saying that whatever human beings do organically is not anything special. Is that what you're saying?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And you're saying that whatever we do organically is not magic. Is that...?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Are AI programs studying our magic?

A: No

Q: (L) Are AI programs studying anything?

A: Many things.

Q: (L) Okay. Do you have something on that, Joe?

(Joe) The first answer: "Those with souls can be smashed, those without simply merge back into the pool." How did that relate to the question you asked?

(L) I asked them to comment on what I read.

(Joe) Right, but what you read was...

(Chu) He was saying everybody has a soul.

(Joe) Right? So...

(L) It was just a comment. Can any of you guys think of a question about this AI business? Make it quick.

(Joe) Maybe... Was the, "Soul smashing anyone?" answer, was that suggesting that people who listened to or follow what this guy is saying are setting themselves up for that?

(L) That they're being set up for soul smashing. Is that what you were suggesting about that?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So people who follow this guy's ideas and buy into it are setting themselves up for soul smashing. Well, one of the first things he did in this video was, you know, claim how right he was about so many things and he was like, batting a thousand for however many years and so on and so forth.

A: By design. STS sources can be "starkly accurate" when it suits their agenda.

Q: (L) Okay. He says that the Wave has hit us and is causing an evolution. The peak of the Wave was in 2020.

(Andromeda) We missed it! [laughter]

(L) Yeah, we missed it!

(Joe) When Biden got elected. November, 2020!

(L) So I mean, there are just so many points that he is saying that we know aren't true. And I mean, it's not just because the C's have said so, but because we've done the research.

(Andromeda) And observed.

(L) Yeah. So, he says the Wave has hit us and is causing an evolution.

A: The Wave is in the early stages and is causing chaos. Will that lead to evolution? In some rare cases, yes.

Q: (Joe) Only rare cases. [laughter]

(L) I mean, it's just...

(Chu) Two people came up with a question about AI if you want them.

(L) Okay. One question. Can AI read our mind referring to targeted advertising?

A: No. But it can read your emails, searches, note websites you have visited, and even listen.

Q: (Joe) So basically Google. Like your phone.

(L) And it either draws something directly from what you've been doing or makes assumptions or predictions about where your mind will go based on what you've been doing, saying or looking at. Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) It's kind of like that... I don't know if any of y'all saw that video about the guy who's, like, a mentalist or something and he...

(Andromeda) You're thinking about Derren Brown who does the programming, pre-programming, and then can guess what you're going to come up with based on...?

(L) Yeah, yeah. Derren Brown. Watching that video is amazing. I mean, if you get exposed to certain things, he took prompts, basically, he took these people, put 'em in a car and drove them to an office along a certain route where there were certain things along the side of the road on their way there. And then, once they got there, asked them to create an advertising program, you know, for whatever it was. And both of them used almost identical elements from the things that they had seen along their route, you know? I mean, it had like a gate to a graveyard and a bear and an angel. I mean, it was bizarre. But the funny thing was that I was noticing the things that were along the route too, as we were going along. I didn't realize what was going on. Okay. And then the other question was: Is it a fault with AI that it uses prior assumptions about how information is distributed, and this may be vastly wrong, as it's based on 3D assumptions?

A: Is it wrong with most people?

Q: (L) No. It probably makes pretty darn good assumptions because it uses prior information about what most people think and do in response to... just like this Derren Brown thing, right? But for people who don't think that way, then obviously they're not going to be so easy to read. People who are not programmable, people who are not impressionable or suggestible in the same ways. So...

(Andromeda) Because there's a spectrum of suggestibility.

(L) Okay... He thinks that World War III seems most likely, but we can't really know. According to him, the US election is part of the show. And Trump wouldn't have been in the picture if he wasn't allowed.

(L) Well, I don't think so because the C's - long before Trump came on the scene and ran for president, and we were watching everything going south at that time - said there was going to be a big miscalculation made, and it was going to expose everything. And that's exactly what happened: Trump was elected because of a big miscalculation. I mean, they didn't realize how many votes they were going to have to fake for Hillary in order to overcome the massive turnout for Trump. And they simply were not prepared. And he was, I believe, a big miscalculation. I mean, maybe they've done a lot of adjusting and they've gotten to him since then. But at the time, he was a big miscalculation. And he wasn't “allowed”. He wasn't allowed to do anything! He managed to get some things done, but I mean, they fought him every freaking inch of the way. And they spent all the time trying to take his money through lawsuits and, his time, his energy, to destroy his mind, his health, everything. I mean, no, you know, anybody who can't see that I don't think can see anything.

(Joe) In a session from 2017, there was a question about if they'd impeach Trump - this was after he'd become president. And they said, "Why impeach a perfectly good puppet?" And they also said in that session that he "gave in to the Deep State." So things changed along the way.

(L) Yeah.

(Joe) So, does that still hold true today?

(L) Well, anybody that gets into that position is basically asking to become a puppet because they're so exposed.

(Joe) Is he a willing puppet, though?

(L) Yeah, well... The C's have mixed reviews about Trump. I mean, very mixed.

(Joe) So is he a puppet? Is our take on Trump close to the reality?

(L) And what is our take?

(Joe) What you just described.

(L) Oh, I'm just talking about the election.

(Joe) Yeah. But in general, a guy came in, not a career politician, came in, thought he was going to be president, found out the hard way. Deep State runs the show, and he's just been trying his best since then. He's well intentioned, but he just isn't able to do anything 'cause they have him hamstrung.

(L) Well, yeah. Yeah. I think that that's what is. Is that basically the way it is?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So: S__ and Jay say that it's mind blowing that people are still falling for this: "If you think Trump is your savior from Biden, then you're still telling them, “'I'm stupid, and I deserve what you wanna give me.'" Well, I don't think anybody here thinks that Trump is a savior from anything, because they're never going to allow him to do anything really significant.

(Joe) In my opinion, the main purpose or the main service that Trump has provided for people who are able to see it, is that by attempting to be the president and do his own thing, and then fighting against them, he has exposed them. He has forced them to a large extent to come out of the woodwork and show their hand. It showed the American people and the world population who really runs America.

(L) Yeah. Well, that's what the C's said would happen. They said big miscalculation, and it would expose the Deep State.

(Joe) Right. It's not about whether or not Trump's going to save anybody. Trump's "service to humanity" was to simply be the kind of guy he is, which is, you know, Art of the Deal, "I'm going down fighting" and that kind of thing, and force them to show their hand. After that it's all gravy.

(L) Yeah, I mean, they'll NEVER let him really do anything significantly effective. Never.

(Joe) And they just tried to kill him.

(L) Yeah. Okay... Now, there was something that was on the video about clones, and that bothered me a lot because it seemed to me that they didn't understand what a clone is, or they were using the terminology loosely. I'm going to describe what a clone is. If anybody has information that alters what I'm going to say, speak up. From what I understand, a clone is when the DNA of a selected individual, whether it's a sheep or a human, is implanted into a fertilized egg or embryo, which then gestates with this changed or switched-out DNA and it is born or hatched or whatever in a normal way, and then goes through a growing-up process and becomes basically, a genetic duplicate of whatever the source of the DNA was. And they're talking about it as though you can make a clone last week, you know, run it for a couple of weeks, and then it just kind of runs down like a robot and you have to toss it aside. And that's like they're assuming that there is some super rapid growth process that they put this DNA through to produce a clone of something or somebody. So does anybody have any information on that which would change what I just said?

(Approaching Infinity) I think your definition of a clone is accurate for what human scientists do. But like in the sessions, the C's, when they talk about clones... That was in the MIA and KIA discussion when they talk about actually duplicating a dead body. And it sounds, from the discussion, that what they were talking about was that 4D STS will actually create a duplicate of the body at the age that it died at and then reinsert that body. So I think there's two types of clones: There's the traditional, like human science cloning where they do as you say, and you create a new being from embryo to, you know, full growth. And then there's the kind of like paranormal weird version where they create like an actual duplicate of a body as it exists at a particular state and age.

(L) Okay, well then, but this kind of doesn't really get into the hyperdimensional aspect of things and that comes along later and demonstrates that he has no real idea what it is. A hyperdimensionally-manufactured clone would be manufactured as you say, it is manufactured in hyperdimensional space and basically, an exact match of somebody. And then it can be put back into 3D. If that is done, does such a clone that is manufactured in hyperdimensional space and then is put into 3D to function in some way, does that type of clone kind of like run out of gas or deteriorate in a short period of time?

A: Not usually. Normally the cloned body is then occupied by the life force of the "donor".

Q: (L) So a body that's cloned in 4D and put back into 3D could then theoretically go on to live a regular lifespan?

(Joe) That's like bringing the person back to life.

(L) Yeah.

(Joe) Their life force goes back into the clone body. So it's the same person.

(L) Yeah. But they've cloned a new body that's based on the old one, and then the life force just goes into the new one. They put 'em back in.

(Joe) Somebody dies in a war and gets all mangled up, take the body in 4D, fix it up, put 'em back in, off you go. Nothing happened.

(Ark) Is the soul also being cloned?

A: Not normally done with fully souled beings.

Q: (L) So in other words, that's what they do with OPs. They have life force, you know, the soul pool thing, and...

(Joe) They're less resistant to just getting back in and getting on with it. Whereas, a souled person that died in a war or something like that, or however they died, that may have been the end of their normal planned soul lifecycle. It's not like get back in, you just say, "I had voted to check out at that point." So bye-bye. (Plus there is the problem of trauma to the soul that registers everything and forgets nothing.)

(L) Okay. So this guy S__ says that they, i.e. I guess the Illuminati people need bodies for armies. He thinks that they tested one or several around the Super Bowl in LA where cops were popping out of the subway. Were they testing these types of cloned bodies?

A: They often do.

Q: (L) But they would be testing bodies that were cloned as you described it, you know, like hyperdimensionally cloned? (And it would not necessarily be the “Illuminati” doing it.)

A: Yes

Q: (L) So apparently S__ says underground bases are not 4th density, they're just big empty spaces underground.

A: False and part of his mission.

Q: (L) So you're saying part of his mission is to distort and mislead or even to directly contradict what the C's said?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) You didn't ask about his background.

Q: (L) Well, hold on. It's coming. He says underground cities are a different thing, and that's for if you make it into the Illuminati, that's where they'd live. Is that true?

A: No.

Q: (L) Okay. So the Illuminati do not live in the underground cities. Well, you've already described underground cities for us in the past, so... (They are for 4D STS activities.) Where do the Illuminati live?

A: All over the planet. But there are a very limited number of them.

Q: (Andromeda) Like how many? [laughter]

(L) Yeah, like how many?

(Andromeda) Rough estimate?

A: Less than 3300.

Q: (L) Why are there so few of them?

A: They keep their genes strictly to themselves. As a result, inbreeding has led to a decline in their numbers.

Q: (L) Well, this guy S__ says he's the offspring of an Illuminati-descended mother and I guess a truck driver father or something like that. [laughter] Yeah. How likely is that?

A: Zero.

Q: (L) So it really is like the way it’s described in that Georgia Le Carre book that any offspring that are born from somebody who's from an Illuminati family with somebody who's an outsider is killed, or actually they try to prevent them being born - force them to have abortions. They don't allow them to be born. So what is this guy's backstory? I mean, did he come out of some kind of cult?

A: No

Q: (Joe) Is he a LARPer?

A: Close. Very bright but narcissistic and thus sort of Dunning/Kruger in his research.

Q: (L) So if he wanted to make everything realistic, he could have researched longer and harder and come up with better answers. Is he doing this just because it is like a grift or something? Or is he an agent?

A: Former.

Q: (Joe) Dude on the internet talking nonsense to make money?

(L) So in other words, I don't really need to go through all the rest of these questions. I mean, it says that he says the Draco headquarters is in Canada and repurposed by human controllers. It's what they call Babylon.

(Joe) He probably got ChatGPT to make up most of it and put it on his website. [laughter] I just wrote a book! I can write a book tomorrow with ChatGPT.

(L) He also said: “The most powerful manifestors in the world seem to be sociopaths, psychopaths, and narcissists. And they managed to do that without a solid foundation because they have powerful conviction. And conviction is”... Oh dear. Oh dear. (He hasn’t got a clue about psychopathology.) Well, okay, so much for that. I mean, I think we've spent enough time on this. Change gears. Let me ask you: Is the Billionaire Banker series by Georgia Le Carre the closest we can get to looking behind the scenes into Illuminati families (their relationships, how they operate)?

A: Yes

Q: (L) The only problem is it's chick-lit porn. [laughter] So I mean, it is not really a book you want to recommend to anybody! Geez.

(Joe) Yeah. Maybe it depends on the person, but like, I don't need to read that book to know. Because after over 20 years of periodically getting little intimations of what goes on in those circles, it's like, yeah... And I don't want to read about it!

(L) Yeah. Well, actually in a certain sense, the pornographic element is entirely appropriate to the Illuminati groups. I mean, you know, they're... wow (pretty sick individuals). Yeah. And is the book “The Other Side of Midnight”, which is related to the Billionaire Banker series, is that a metaphor for 4D STS relationship with humanity?

A: Very close.

Q: (L) But part of the story is that one of these STS-type dudes somehow turns over and becomes STO in the end. Is that possible?

A: Yes, but rare.

Q: (L) Okay. Well... Has anything on these previous two topics excited any of you to any curiosities or questions that are related to them before we move to our next topic?

(Ryan) Laura, I was actually wondering if the C's could tell us how many humans are in the Quorum?

A: Quorum is mostly "hyperdimensional". Few humans.

Q: (L) Is that enough? Are you really angling for an exact number?

(Ryan) I was hoping they could tell us how many the human portion of the Quorum was.

(Joe) They said very few.

A: Varies.

Q: (L) So I guess it varies from time to time. Okay, now I want to ask about Jean-Pierre Garnier Malet's “Theory of the Doubling of Time and Space". Is this theory that he's come up with - his ideas about time and gravity and space and so forth - if they could ever be elucidated with any clarity, are they close to being descriptive of different densities?

A: Close, but not close enough and he has some things exactly backwards.

Q: (L) Well, he says that he came to this idea sometime, I think around 1988 or something. And he had an encounter with a being, apparently, for 15 minutes, and all this stuff came into his head and because of his background in physics and...

(Ark) Physics and engineering.

(L) He's in engineering, but also, what was it, hydrodynamics or something?

(Ark) Yeah.

(L) So he's got a background that is kind of similar to Jean-Pierre Petit's. Except that after he got his PhD, he quit and he went off to work in the theater. And that's kind of like a real strange combination. So what kind of a being did he have an encounter with?

A: 4D STS.

Q: (L) And why did this being give him this information?

A: Muddy the waters.

Q: (L) Okay. But what about his thing about the cycling around of space and time? He says they cycle round and he even draws a picture of it. It's like a cycling yin yang symbol, almost. And it seems to me that when the cycle comes and meets in the end, you know, like the past and the future and everything kind of meets in the middle, that that would be the definition of the whole Wave process. But he's saying that all space and time does this, and that it cycles forever. And that kind of fits with some of the C's definitions about the Wave. They say it's always there, it's cycling through the universe forever. And so that struck me as being very close to what he was talking about, this cycling of space and time, and this doubling thing. Is that in fact the case?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, if it was done very carefully, we could extract something from what he has written. I mean, very little, probably like 2% of the whole book. But it might still be useful. Is that true?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay. Is it true that every observer exists simultaneously in different timescales?

A: We have told you this. His idea of "timescales" is more akin to densities.

Q: (L) Well, since he's so vague and we already talked about it at some length, I guess we'll end that topic and get to some of the group’s questions. How long have we been on here?

(Chu) One hour 16.

Q: (L) For the session?

(Chu) No, the session alone has been going for probably one hour now.

Q: (L) Okay. Here's some questions:

(Altair) According to British MP Andrew Bridgen, NATO is planning a “dirty bomb” false flag in Europe. He says: "Services tell me there is going to be a "9/11-like" nuclear detonation in Europe" and he asks "unless NATO is behind it, how would UK intelligence services know?" Is this on the table for Europe or Ukraine?

A: Very possible.

Q: (irjO) What is the total percentage of votes Maduro obtained? (In the 2024 presidential elections)

A: 63.

Q: (L) 63 percent?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, that's higher than what they say in the polls...

(Niall) Yes. So they tried to rig it against him

(L) It was another Trump-like situation. (It’s sad that Trump and Musk can’t see that and Musk went on to attack Maduro.)

(Joe) And then said that he rigged it. With the lower figure they gave, they said he rigged that!

(L) Yeah, they're such liars!

(Andromeda) They're terrible.

(Chu) I think in the beginning, Joe and Niall had questions...

(Joe) What's at the top of that list? Didn't you start at the top?

(Andromeda) She did.

(Gaby) No, the very top.

(Andromeda) Yeah. Oh... sorry.

(L) Oh, it said "Joe and Niall have questions about Trump". Well, that wasn't a question, so I just ignored it! [laughter]

(Andromeda) It was very tiny! [laughter]

(Joe) It's very short questions. Very quick and easy answers. [laughter]

(L) All right, go for it.

(Joe) Did Crooks (the guy who allegedly shot at Trump) actually shoot at Trump? Was he the one shooting at Trump? Shooting a bullet at Trump…?

A: He shot, yes.

Q: (Joe) And he shot all of the eight bullets attributed to him.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was his the bullet that hit Trump?

(Joe) Yeah. Did one of his bullets hit Trump's ear?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) So, and was it just luck, let's say, that made Trump turn his head?

A: Divine intervention.

Q: (Joe) Divine intervention by Trump's higher self?

A: Yes. Powered by mass prayers.

Q: (Niall) Was Thomas Crooks groomed in any way?

A: Yes.

Q: (Niall) So he was handled, okay.

(L) Was there another shooter on site?

A: Yes.

Q: (Niall) Did this other shooter on site take out Crooks?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) And where did he fire from? Was he behind Crooks?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) He was behind Crooks in the building, in one of the windows, one of the sniper people?

A: Yes.

Q: (Niall) The last window maybe...

(Joe) There was at least one little UFO-type thing moving very fast. We don't know if there were one or two. There was definitely one, one that was caught clearly, maybe a number of seconds before Crooks fired the shots. It flew over the building or that general area, and it had a little kind of antenna on the back of it. You could freeze frame it to see it. And then there were other camera angles that saw another further away, with a more ball-like structure, though it could be the same one. But anyway, it was some kind of an anomalous, unidentified aerial vehicle in the air at the time of the shooting. What was... who owned that?

A: Drones.

Q: (Joe) And these are 3D drones run by Intel types?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) And was it really moving at the speed it seemed to have been? Was it moving at 2000 miles an hour or something like that?

(L) No, it wasn't, because it was probably closer than you imagine.

(Joe) Maybe, but it was moving extremely fast.

(Niall) Yes.

(Joe) Way faster than any drone you can buy, even the top end, the best of them. And what was this purpose? Was it there to just monitor? Did it have any purpose other than monitoring the situation?

A: Mind control signals.

Q: (Joe) On Crooks?

A: Yes.

Q: (Niall) Wow! Was the attempted assassination of Trump what the C's referred to…?

(Joe) They mentioned the program change...

(Niall) And the meeting with the Quorum.

(Joe) And they talked about program change upcoming. This was like in maybe February or March. They said it was in a timescale of months. Was that [Trump's assassination attempt] the anticipated program change, and it got subverted? Or is the program change still to come?

A: Program had to be changed to avoid mass violation of free will.

Q: (Joe) So the program was the planned assassination of Trump?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) And... but it was changed to avoid mass violation of free will. And who made the decision to change the program?

A: Quorum.

Q: (Joe) Right. So they had a good think about it, and thought it was a bad idea.

A: Violations of free will on that scale are similar to violations of gravity in your realm.

Q: (Niall) It's like trying to break a natural law, or something. It's too much.

(L) Yeah, if you jump off the roof and you think you're not going to get hurt, that's violating gravity.

(Joe) So it was strange that such smart people in the Quorum would have not realized that that was a bad idea from the get go.

(L) Well, I don't think they expected so many people to be praying for Trump, and to be supporting him.

(Joe) Yes. Because that suggests that they didn't change it, because it was Trump that prevented his own assassination.

(L) Yeah. In a sense.

(Joe) They still intended to assassinate him. So they didn't change the program. The program was changed by other forces linked to Trump's higher self or whatever.

(L) Yeah. But it still is woven together.

(Joe) It is divine intervention, like they said.

(L) Yeah.

(Joe) Well, anything else Niall?

(Niall) On that? No.

(L) All right, moving on.

(seek10) One quick question, Laura. Is it the good guys in the Quorum who intervened?

A: Not the right concept.

Q: (Niall) Yeah. Remember the Quorum thinks in terms of... it's not good or bad per se, it's what will work. And remember they were thinking of resistance and balance as well. If they were going to off Trump, when there's so much support for him, at least some among them realize that's a breach, that's going too far.

(L) It's like Ra said, you know? If they go against the free will of humanity, STS gets degaussed.

(Joe) There's blowback.

(L) Yeah, serious blowback.

(Joe) Because in one of the last sessions, when talking about the Quorum and program changes, they said that the Quorum was meeting to affect changes, to produce more control. And we discussed it. But that control would lead to more resistance because more balance is needed. So it brings in the question of whether these people in the Quorum are aware of the broader scale of things.

(L) They might have lost control completely, if they had actually succeeded.

(Joe) Right. And they're aware of the broader dynamics involved and how balance is needed. But you know... because it is weird, they're planning to create resistance by introducing some kind of pandemic or some things that are going to make people suffer...

(Andromeda) Some sort of extra control...

(Joe) ...that will cause resistance. And that creates more balance, right? So it's almost like the idea of people who are intending evil but doing good.

(Andromeda) Right.

(Joe) But they're aware of that as well, at the same time. So it's probably kind of high-level stuff. And it's not so simple.

(L) It's a way of thinking that we don't... we hardly can fathom.

(Joe) It's big picture thinking, you know?

(L) All right, next question.

(msante) Javier Milei's unauthorized biographer and inner circle claim that he had a “divine revelation” in 2019 that prophesied to him that he would be president of Argentina. The story goes that when his dog Conan died (2017) Milei was devastated. It was at that time that he contacted a medium who taught Milei's sister how to communicate with his dog. It is through his sister (she officiates as a medium) that Milei communicates with his dog, and it is through the dog that Milei talks to an entity he calls “the one”. Is there any truth to this story, and if so, what is the nature of this "one"?

(Andromeda) Oh boy!

(L) Jesus Christ! It's worse than I thought.

(Chu) That's what he claims!

(Niall) This is politics today.

(L) First of all, is there any truth to this story?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Oh dear! What is the nature of this "one" that Milei talks to through his dog?

A: 4D STS.

Q: (L) That's why he's all for Israel and the US and...

(irjO) A follow-up question about Maduro: Was Elon Musk involved behind the attacks against Venezuela, as Maduro pointed out when Elon was criticizing the election results?

A: Only peripherally.

Q: (L) I think Elon Musk has some serious blind spots, and lack of deep and thorough education. Is that the best way to describe what's going on with him?

A: Close enough.

Q: (Chu) Plus the drugs he does, probably.

(Niall) Ketamine!

(Joe) They're all caught up in the American dream. It's a hard habit to break.

(Andromeda) Yeah...

(Joe) The team is going to make it! Murrika!! [laughter]

(Ellipse) Was there an agenda behind the Crowdstrike incident, or was it really an accident?

(Joe) Do you want me to explain that, Laura?

(L) Yeah, it says "Ask Joe". Explain that. We don't need the C's, we've got Joe! [laughter]

(Joe) No, just to explain the...

(Chu) Do you remember the Crowdstrike incident?

(L) Yeah. The internet went down, or something.

(Joe) Yeah. Okay. So you do know what it was! [laughter] Yeah, where the internet and airport software and all that kind of stuff...

(L) Yeah. I mean, it wasn't the whole internet, it was just...

(Joe) No, here and there, yeah. So what was the question?

(Scottie) The first question is, was it an accident or just a bug?

(L) Was it an accident?

(Joe) As they claimed?

A: No.

Q: (Joe) So was it a testing of their ability to shut stuff down?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) Okay. That's what we figured.

(Niall) A report claims, based on food production and consumption statistics, that the population of the UK may have been as high as 80 million people... 17 years ago! The official number today is 67 million. Is this official number accurate?

A: No.

Q: (Niall) If not, what is it, to the nearest million?

A: 89.

Q: (Niall) Holy sh*t! Oh my god! What is the population of France to the nearest million?

A: 76.

Q: (Niall) Okay. That's about 10 more than officially.

(Gaby) No wonder people have problems finding a doctor...

(Niall) So are they stuffing Western countries with people who are undocumented?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) And they're not part of any census, so...

(Niall) And this is why there's a backlash. People know something is wrong. They don't have numbers like this. They don't have... but they're like, there's a thousand new people in their community overnight. And they're rioting.

(Joe) The thing is, we should have realized that, because years ago we asked about the population of the planet, and officially it was seven billion, but the C's said it was closer to eight. So there was an extra billion people to be accounted...

(Niall) I assumed from that whole answer that that was because, well, our number counting out there in Africa and Asia is so-so. But it's not there in Africa, it’s HERE!

(Joe) It's more likely it would be in wealthy countries, right? And that the increase in the population would be in cities and...

(Niall) The UK is tiny! 90 million people!

(Joe) Well, think about Tokyo. [laughter] Mexico City? [laughter]

(Puma) What is the probability of a mega-earthquake occurring in the next six months?

A: 48 percent.

Q: (L) So, a little less than half.

(Puma) In the session of January 21, 1995 the C's predicted a sequence of 13 earthquakes before an M9.6 earthquake in or near Tokyo. According to the VolcanoDiscovery database, 13 earthquakes M7+ have occurred since 2003 near Tokyo. Is this M9.6 earthquake still valid within the present timeline?

A: Yes.

Q: (Puma) If this M9.6 earthquake is still valid, would this be the earthquake that the Japanese authorities expect to occur in Nankai Trough?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) It's just not going to be within the next six months. [laughter] Is it possible it's going to be sooner?

A: Possible.

Q: (L) I guess anything is possible. Okay.

(mkrnhr) There have been cases of attachments that persisted over several incarnations. When the host goes to 5D, where does the attachment go when there's still an energetic karmic affinity to the host?

A: Waits in Earth sphere.

Q: (L) So that's like...

(Andromeda) It waits for the host to reincarnate?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So it kind of waits in a...

(Chu) Limbo.

(Joe) In the ether.

(L) Yes.

(Chu) Altair and Cosmos are asking what the real population of Germany is, but if we start asking about every country...

(L) Please! [laughter]

(Chu) You can probably add 10 million to every country, more or less.

(Niall) Though I think it's a Western thing. Germany and the US would be interesting. Japan has almost no immigration. It's very selective.

(Persej) Rene Quinton used seawater from a plankton-rich environment in his medical practice. Charles Schnabel promoted the health benefits of juice powder made from cereal grass grown on mineral-rich soil. Weston Price used butter from cows fed on cereal grasses as a source of activator X. Julius Hensel praised his Physiological Bread, made by fermenting the wheat flour mixed with mineral powder. It looks to me that minerals in a certain form might be the reason why those gentlemen had such positive results in their practice. Do minerals play a role in formation of beneficial information in certain foods or nourishment?

A: Indeed!

Q: (L) So that's a big 10-4.

(Andromeda) Didn't the C's say something about that once?

(Gaby) Trace minerals.

(L) Yeah, minerals being very important.

(Joe) And being bound up in the right food.

(Andromeda) Right.

(Z…) Is taking pine pollen beneficial for longevity and cancer prevention?

A: So-so.

Q: (L) So-so. So it's not bad and it's not good.

(Z…) Can taking pine pollen orally safely boost testosterone levels in males?

A: No

Q: (Gottathink) The genome of New Zealand's Pinus Radiata has 25 billion base pairs. Is the beneficial effects of consuming this pollen, according to research and anecdotal experience, related to this vast amount of information?

A: Close

Q: (Gottathink) Or is it more the quality of information that these base pairs encode for?

A: Close. More research needed.

Q: (Breo) Dr. Rashid A. Buttar says the Covid shots all contain a dormant virus (poison) encapsulated in lipid nanoparticles which can be activated using specific 5G frequencies. Is this concept generally true, including with other EMFs?

A: Generally, yes.

Q: (Breo) Are there any technologies accessible to really protect from harmful frequency technologies?

A: Has been discussed in previous session.

Q: (Joe) Silk!

(Chu) But that's not necessarily a technology...

(L) Yeah, but there was also a discussion about using countering frequencies. You know, find out what the frequency that is coming at you is, and then have a device that emits one that cancels it out. Because you're dealing with waves, right? So you send out a canceling wave. So, canceling waves and silk.

(Niall) And Q-links?

(Joe) Our brains can send out canceling waves....

(Andromeda) Theoretically. (With enough knowledge.)

(Chu) So if these "nanobots", as they are called, exist, what is their main purpose? Mind control or health deterioration or something else?

A: Either/or.

Q: (Joe) Can they be shed? Can you contract them from people who have had them in the batches of vaccines…?

A: Cut them up.

Q: (Joe) What was that?

(Niall) Cut them up.

(Joe) Huh?

A: Chemical cleaving.

Q: (Gaby) Like detox?

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) What would you use for that?

(L) Like serrapeptase. Doesn't serrapeptase digest stuff like that?

(Gaby) Yeah. The protocols we discussed. Bromelain, nattokinase, ivermectin...

(Joe) So it is possible for them to be shed, and contracted by other people.

(L) Well, you have to cut them up and get rid of them out of your body.

(Joe) But my question was, people who have had them injected into them via the vaccine, and who have these nanobots in them... Are they "sheddable"?

A: Under some circumstances.

Q: (L) Well, I guess sex, or sharing body fluids of some sort, or...

(Gaby) Blood transfusions.

(L) Yeah, things like that.

(Joe) Yeah. But not just coughed in your face.

(Andromeda) Not like a germ.

(Joe) Not like the way you can shed the spike protein. You can't contract it the same way.

(L) Yeah, no. Okay. We're going to stop now, because I'm tired. And I know we've got more... and these are questions that are not crucial to the time, they're historical questions. So we're going to stop here. We'll start next time with question number 14 about the height of men during the Atlantean period and things about Newgrange, St. Patrick, Aryan invasions, ancient races... All right. So if there's anything that we should have asked, that is crucial to our survival or the survival of our group, that we didn't ask, please consider it asked from deep within our hearts, and give us some guidance.

A: You are doing well. Help is on the way! Goodbye.

Q: (L) Oh yeah. Well, you've been telling us help is on the way for so many years, I don't believe you anymore! [laughter]

(Andromeda) Are they trying to be funny? [laughter]

END OF SESSION
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Many thanks for the session!



That's terrible! They can't be using them for votes like in the US, so why is this happening in Europe? I wish you had asked why?!
In general, and please take this as the constructive criticism it is meant to be, I think deeper and critical questions don't get asked enough in the sessions. So the why questions would have been a very good one. I mean, we can all suppose why, but that's an assumption. Some confirmation by the C's and thus clarity would be very welcome.
 
France's official population is 68 million people, by the way. So if the Cs' answer is correct, in reality there are 8 million more people. Which is still shocking if you know anything about French bureaucratic fastidiousness.

Here's the UK media report from 2007 that caught my attention:


Maybe the discrepancy in the UK is so much higher because it's that bit more 'hooked into the American Way'? Makes me wonder what the current population of the US is. Officially, it's 333 million. I bet it's closer to 400 million!
Depending on the source, the numbers differ. For France: 66.1 million in mainland France and 2.2 million in the five overseas departments, according to insee.fr
 
In general, and please take this as the constructive criticism it is meant to be, I think deeper and critical questions don't get asked enough in the sessions. So the why questions would have been a very good one. I mean, we can all suppose why, but that's an assumption. Some confirmation by the C's and thus clarity would be very welcome.

Have you read all the sessions?

May 13, 2017:

Q: (Pierre) Well, so it’s that. People got scared. That’s a documented thing. The first leaks from Macron’s servers was those documents from a NATO/CIA-sponsored foundation in France that was pushing for a lot of migration and a lot of mosques and stuff. I was wondering if his main mission is to bring in migrants and stir things up to lead towards a civil war?

A: US wishes to destabilize EU similar to Syria so that they can come in and “fix” things. i.e. rule and control resources and trade the “American way”. Everyone will speak English!

The other thing is that the C's have said plenty of times that it's best for us to learn how to think for ourselves. Give a 3D human a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a 3D human how to fish, and he eats for a lifetime. Anyways, one could easily come to the same conclusion as above through historical research, paying attention to world events, and most importantly, networking.
 
(Ellipse) Was there an agenda behind the Crowdstrike incident, or was it really an accident?

(Joe) Do you want me to explain that, Laura?

(L) Yeah, it says "Ask Joe". Explain that. We don't need the C's, we've got Joe! [laughter]

(Joe) No, just to explain the...

(Chu) Do you remember the Crowdstrike incident?

(L) Yeah. The internet went down, or something.

(Joe) Yeah. Okay. So you do know what it was! [laughter] Yeah, where the internet and airport software and all that kind of stuff...

(L) Yeah. I mean, it wasn't the whole internet, it was just...

(Joe) No, here and there, yeah. So what was the question?

(Scottie) The first question is, was it an accident or just a bug?

(L) Was it an accident?

(Joe) As they claimed?

A: No.

Q: (Joe) So was it a testing of their ability to shut stuff down?

A: Yes.

The WEF is now doing this prediction:

The forum believes this group will implement AI in its “new phase of terrorism.” The massive global IT outage in July 2024 led to $5.4 billion in damages.

Was that a test?

The world will be “distracted with multiple major wars and leadership in decline,” providing the globalist cabal with an opportunity to install a “new extremist group.” The forum warns that we should expect a “grander scale” of cyber-attacks that will attack BANKS, hospitals, and retailers and lead to a halt in worldwide services. Flights will be impacted and the people will be forced to stay in place.

source:

Interesting the name they use to described their own actions.
 
Meanwhile, in this little video, the woman presenting the information refers to the Illuminati as just simply rich, powerful people. The impression is that the category is very permeable to comings and goings. Not a 'bloodline' thing at all.

In any event, the whole little presentation is interesting. Watch:


Meanwhile, debunking the above:

The doc itself:
 
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We have a thread on it too.
 
Trump is a 'great man' in historical analysis terms, and therefore likely heavily weighted when determining such things; and at present, I think the majority of Americans are in his corner and many people around the globe who are against the NWO etc.

On the other side, Palestinians really get a mixed reaction all around the globe. A lot, LOT of people are horrified by the genocide, but I think that horror is also partly fueled by a general unease and dislike of anything that Israel does. Plus, there has been a lot of propaganda against Muslims, and there is quite a lot of antipathy toward Muslim immigrants for a variety of reasons, some of them possibly justifiable. So their case is not so pure and not so strong when put on the scale.

Keep in mind that I don't think that the three fates give much consideration to suffering when weighing, measuring, balancing and cutting the thread.

Yes, there seem to be mixed motivations when it comes to support for Palestine. While many are genuinely shocked by their suffering at the hands of Israel, for others it's more about their dislike of Israel (justified as it is) or woke ideology (anti-colonialism, protecting other races from racism etc.). Then there are those who say well, it's a tragedy what happens to them, but it's not really my problem, we should stay out of conflicts on the other side of the planet, withdrawing our support for Israel and then just don't care and focus on our own problems. Point being, how many of those with mixed motivations would actually pray for Palestinians? Muslims probably, but the "system" so far hasn't had a problem with the free will question when it comes to those it seems. Perhaps it's also about where the world's power center currently lies, which is in the US, so violating the free will of millions of US citizens praying for their beloved leader might weigh more in terms of these higher dimensional power issues.
 

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