Session 19 October 2024

Joe said:
I would have thought that was obvious to everyone.
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No, what you at the top of the inner circle say is, for many, unquestionable truth.

Anything I say, for example, is not at all the same for the people as what you or those close to you say.

In short, your assumption is wrong.
 
Thank you for the last session, Chateau crew :-)

As others have pointed out, it was a nice relief to hear from Pierre and that he is doing well.

Yeah, "enjoying the show" from a 3D perspective is not possible for most humans, we must see it from another perspective. Very interesting session and I need to reread it more than once.

I feel like witnessing hell unfolding all around. Not just the sickening parts of people suffering and being killed but also the programmed part of the population just following along with all the provable insane policies.

We will all pull through in the end even if it doesn't seem like it at times. Thank you for being here and giving hope for the future.
 
QuantumLogic said:
Thank you all for such an interesting double session! It was good to hear from Pierre. I must admit I still get a lump in my throat every time I look at the cover of his book in my bedroom. Hard to believe it's been a year already- and what a year it's been.



Being an amateur radio operator, I monitor the flares/CMEs on solarham.com since they greatly affect radio waves and propagation. In the current solar cycle, there have been 6 so far at X5 or above.

If as the C's say an X5 can take out our technological network, then we've already had 6 potential catastrophic flares. The strength isn't the only factor, as a destructive flare would need to go off while that particular sunspot was Earth facing- which most of them have not been.

As to what good there is knowing that, I would venture a guess that since the effects of these flares take 48-72 hours to reach Earth, knowing a flare/CME's intensity when it erupts combined with it's direction (Earth facing or not) would give some warning before it actually hit Earth. This would give a short amount of time to take any actions needed before the impact.

It was only an X5.8 on May 11th this year that caused the aurora to be seen almost down to the equator, and knowing that now has changed my response to the flares in the current cycle. Anything above an X5 now, I will disconnect the electrical mains from my house since all those thousands of miles of powerlines across the country will energize and overload anything connected to them. Sure, there's still the wiring in the house that will be charged by it as well, but 48-72 hours is enough time to unplug every device to prevent a possible fire.

None of this matters at the end of the day as such an event would instantaneously put us back to the pre-Industrial Era. But I must admit that watching all of this happen is fascinating, and I really want to see how all of this ends.
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Yes it would be good to have some warning before a direct CME. Not sure how unplugging from the grid will actually help but it can't hurt.
 
Odin said:
I feel like witnessing hell unfolding all around. Not just the sickening parts of people suffering and being killed but also the programmed part of the population just following along with all the provable insane policies.
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Yes it can feel that way but there have been a few bright spots out there where a couple a local jurisdictions have won a case to stop the vaccinations one in Australia and Oregon I think. There are people waking up after they have seen or experienced first hand the suffering due to the V.
 
bozadi said:
He's an expert on advaita (nondualism). I think his most incompatible side for this forum is that he wasn't interested in discussing any specific world affairs, politics etc.
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To me it seems that the main problem of advaita or non-duality followers is that they try to go straight to non-duality while ignoring the lessons in duality that we are here to learn. Going to non-duality or the core of self in meditation is an excellent and important practice and it is a "shortcut" in a sense, as they believe. However, we are in duality for a reason and it is not to ignore the lessons of duality while trying to go straight to non-duality.
 
axj said:
To me it seems that the main problem of advaita or non-duality followers is that they try to go straight to non-duality while ignoring the lessons in duality that we are here to learn. Going to non-duality or the core of self in meditation is an excellent and important practice and it is a "shortcut" in a sense, as they believe. However, we are in duality for a reason and it is not to ignore the lessons of duality while trying to go straight to non-duality.
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Rest assured, if the lessons are not completed, the spiritual plan does not allow non-duality. It's a bit like seeing the sun but not being there. Balance is really essential. But I think people like Maharaj are different homeopathic medicine for the planet. Maybe someone should mark beyond the horizon: As frequency stabilizers, of course.
 
Wandering Star said:
No, what you at the top of the inner circle say is, for many, unquestionable truth.

Anything I say, for example, is not at all the same for the people as what you or those close to you say.

In short, your assumption is wrong.
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Well as someone who has been here 18 years, that's kind of never the way it's worked here especially for a new issue. Two admins/mods could have different views of the issue. Laura wouldn't expect any favoritism other than via the words at hand in a back and forth with Joe or any of us for that matter. For a new issue, it's kind of good to look at the issue from varying sides. For issues that might be asked about in a future session, you get better answers if you've really discussed and researched the issue.

My thinking for this issue is that maybe Pierre having a rather unique relationship with someone who can channel might affect things as in Pierre and Laura might be more at the same place as far as seeing what's going on so that they can speculate and learn together without one (Pierre) having to overly hide knowledge for free will reasons.
 
Wandering Star said:
No, what you at the top of the inner circle say is, for many, unquestionable truth.

Anything I say, for example, is not at all the same for the people as what you or those close to you say.

In short, your assumption is wrong.
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It should be apparent that shared thoughts on things like the afterlife are speculation, but if it’s not clear then writing things like ‘I think’ and ‘probably’ should clarify things.

It also appears you are carrying some sort of grudge or resentment against those you see in authority and that colors your perception of what is said.

What is written by administrators does carry a lot of weight, but I think for most on the forum that is because of the value they have given to others, not simply from a title or position.
 
axj said:
To me it seems that the main problem of advaita or non-duality followers is that they try to go straight to non-duality while ignoring the lessons in duality that we are here to learn. Going to non-duality or the core of self in meditation is an excellent and important practice and it is a "shortcut" in a sense, as they believe. However, we are in duality for a reason and it is not to ignore the lessons of duality while trying to go straight to non-duality.
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Some aspects of the issue you raised are addressed in a "non-duality" thread:

Cordillera

Thread 'Non duality'

In a group on trauma treatment with somatic techniques someone recommended a recent documentary on the work of Dr. Gabor Maté in the study and treatment of trauma as a cause of addictions and diseases.

The name of the organization that is broadcasting the documentary caught my attention: Science and Noduality. Looking on their website, I found the explanation they give for "non-duality":

https: // www. scienceandnonduality .com / nonduality

Nonduality has as many facets as there are human endeavors. Mystics describe the nondual experience in many ways, as loving, expansive, blissful...
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non-duality thread

If we need to discuss this further or deeper, maybe we can continue in that thread.
 
Renaissance said:
It also appears you are carrying some sort of grudge or resentment against those you see in authority and that colors your perception of what is said.
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Protest! Speculative!:-D

I have no problem with any of you (who I do not see as authority figures).

And it is clear that you are not aware of the weight that your words have, for the people in the outer circle.
 
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Wandering Star said:
Protest! Speculative!:-D

I have no problem with any of you (who I do not see as authority figures).

And it is clear that you are not aware of the weight that your words have, for the people in the outer circle.
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From Ark on Thursday:
That is brainstorming. We throw a lot of ideas, they do not have to be rational. They should be "new". Out of 100 of such ideas, one or two may lead to something useful. Otherwise nothing new can be created. But discarding bad or useless ideas is an important part of such a brainstorming session.

It is allowed to say: "I want to play with a formal expression that does not necessarily have a mathematical sense according to the formalized mathematics". That's fine. Playing sometimes leads to discoveries. But not always. And one should be aware of this fact.
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This brainstorming is needed even for the rather precise subject of math but everybody should obviously be aware that anybody can be wrong when brainstorming.
 
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