Session 26 April 2025

Curious you should mention kundalini.

HA! I knew you'd respond to my post . . . and how! Although I have indeed read The Gods of Eden several years ago, I regrettably do not recall the excerpt you posted. Unfortunately, I can read lots of things that intrigue me, but actually remembering most of what I read long term . . . not so much. It's more than a little aggravating, but I keep plodding on in the hope that the really crazy important revelations will remain lodged in my brain.

I was also going to comment on the caduceus symbol, but in attempting to track down any of the former info about kundalini from the past, I got mired down in a new agey/tantric yoga/channelers kundalini minefield. Consequently, my post was at 2:15 a.m. :rolleyes:

In esoteric circles though, the snake has always been linked with wisdom as seen with the caduceus (see image below), the staff carried by Hermes in Greek mythology and consequently by Hermes Trismegistus in Greco-Egyptian mythology.
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How can one not think the entwined serpents represent the DNA double helix. And the double wings are a symbol that's proliferated into numerous other symbols, most notably popular brands (particularly cars), well into our present time - one example:

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However, was the original the winged sun disk largely associated with Zoroastrianism:

The faravahar is the best-known symbol from ancient Persia of the winged sun disk with a seated male figure in the center. It is thought to represent Ahura Mazda, the god of Zoroastrianism, but has also been interpreted to signify other concepts, including:
  • Fravashi (Guardian Angel)
  • Farr or Khvarenah (Divine Grace)
  • The fravashi of the king
  • Divinity in general and royal power
  • Personal spiritual power
  • The tenets of Zoroastrianism
All of these interpretations, it should be noted, are modern. No one actually knows what the faravahar meant to the ancient Persians who created the symbol.

The winged sun disk is one of the most ancient symbols in the world, appearing in art, architecture, and cylinder seals from Egypt, Babylonia, Sumer, Assyria, Judah, and elsewhere. The Persian faravahar is easily the most intricate and detailed representation of the winged sun disk from any ancient civilization except perhaps the Assyrian. It first appears in its present form during the Achaemenid Empire (c. 550-330 BCE) and continued in use until the fall of the Sassanian Empire (224-651 CE) to the Muslim Arabs in 651 CE.

Afterwards, the symbol was suppressed, along with other aspects of Persian culture, and its earlier meaning was lost; but the symbol itself was not removed from buildings, artwork, or ancient inscriptions and so survived. In the present day, it is recognized as the national symbol of Iran while also retaining its association with Zoroastrianism and lending itself to use by various New Age spiritual adherents who frequently interpret it as depicting the flight of the soul from the entanglements of the world, enlightenment, or union with God.

And then there's the rod (and/or staff) - another very prominent object in humanity's ancient past. Have we figured out exactly what it represents or actually was? No doubt, these things have been researched and speculative explanations explored. It's all so very fascinating and mysterious!

Taking all these indications together, could the caduceus actually represent kundalini - "the flight of the soul from the entanglements of the world, enlightenment, or union with God?" 🤔
 
And the double wings are a symbol

I rather gave the double wings short shrift. They are actually a very important spiritual representation - our friendly AI overview:
The meaning of a double-winged symbol varies depending on the specific context and culture. Generally, wings symbolize protection, freedom, and divine power. In some traditions, they can also represent duality, balance, or the connection between the earthly and spiritual realms.

Here's a more detailed look at some common interpretations:

Protection and Divine Power:
Wings, particularly in religious contexts, often represent divine favor or the protection of a deity or guardian angel. The Faravahar, a symbol from Zoroastrianism, is a good example, representing the soul's higher self and divine power.
Freedom and Ascent:
Wings can symbolize the ability to transcend limitations and rise above the ordinary. In some traditions, they represent the journey towards spiritual enlightenment or the ability to reach a higher plane of existence.

Duality and Balance:
Double-winged symbols, such as the two-headed eagle or the Garuda in Hinduism, can represent the balance of opposing forces, such as the East and West, or the union of different aspects of the self.

Symbol of Commerce:
The caduceus, which features wings and snakes, is a well-known symbol associated with commerce, peace, and neutrality.

Heraldry and Kingship:
The double-headed eagle has been used in heraldry to represent the dominance of the West and East, implying power and kingship.

Symbol of Love and Divine Connection:
In some traditions, the wings of cherubim touching each other are seen as representing the love of God for his people.

More from the previously referenced link:
One of the earliest representations of the winged sun disk comes from Egypt where it appears during the period of the Old Kingdom (c. 2613-2181 BCE) representing the divine power of the king.
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The pharaoh was thought to be the living representative of Horus on earth and so the winged sky disk came to also be associated with kingship.

The Mesopotamian Sumerians and Babylonians used a similar symbol to represent the god of the sun and divine justice, Utu-Shamash (known to the Akkadians as Shamash) from c. 2279 - c. 1750 BCE, roughly. The winged sun disk appears on cylinder seals, with inscriptions, and in artwork associated with divinity and royalty. The Hebrews used the symbol to represent the same concepts (c. 8th century BCE) and the Sumerians also associated the symbol with Enki, god of wisdom, with the rays from the sun disk representing Enki's divine wisdom freely given to humanity like sunshine.

The Assyrians were the first to develop the symbol into an image resembling the later faravahar through their depiction of the sun god Ashur (who was also linked with royalty).

This belief system was developed by the Persians into what is now known as Early Iranian Religion with Ahura Mazda as the king of the gods who led the other entities of light and goodness – such as Mithra, Anahita, Atar, Haoma – against the evil spirit Angra Mainyu (also known as Ahriman) and his legions of darkness.

The prophet Zoroaster (c. 1500-1000 BCE) completely reformed this religion, making it monotheistic, with Ahura Mazda as the only god, uncreated and the source of all else, and the others emanations of his divine power. The understanding of life and the universe as an eternal struggle between good and evil was kept as central to Zoroastrian doctrine, however.
Still, the faravahar clearly continues a symbolic paradigm already long-established which represented divinity linked to royalty and so most likely did signify Ahura Mazda.

Farr or Khvarenah
Persian kings were thought to rule by the power of divine grace (farr) and divine glory (khvarenah). Mithra – whether understood as a god or as an avatar of Ahura Mazda – bestowed this grace on an individual who was worthy, one who would care for his people, honor the gods, and conduct himself in accordance with principles of goodness and right. Another interpretation of the faravahar is thought to be this concept. The disk and the wings would symbolize the divine grace and the figure in robes and tiara would be the king. When the king died – or proved himself unworthy – the grace was withdrawn and given to another. It would, in a sense, fly from one monarch to his successor.

Divinity in General and Royal Power
In keeping with the history of the winged sun disk from earlier cultures, the faravahar is also seen as simply representing royal power backed by divinity, just like the Ashur symbol of Assyria or the Horus disk from Egypt.

Personal Spiritual Power
In modern times, the symbol is sometimes divorced from its roots and interpreted by so-called New Age philosophical and religious adherents as a symbol of enlightenment. In this view, the symbol signifies the concept of leaving behind the confusion, traps, tricks, and weights of daily life to become a better version of one's self. In this interpretation, the symbol is open to people of any religion – or none – who respond to the challenge of self-improvement on a spiritual level.

As we well know, kings were supposed to rule with "the Mandate of Heaven":
The Mandate of Heaven was a Chinese cosmological concept from Confucianism.
The Mandate of Heaven was a Chinese philosophical concept that legitimized the rule of a monarch or emperor by claiming they were chosen by Heaven (a divine force). This concept, originating during the Zhou Dynasty, established that a ruler's legitimacy depended on their virtue and ability to maintain order and prosperity for the people. If a ruler became tyrannical or faced widespread disasters, it was believed they had lost the Mandate, making them open to being overthrown. Natural disasters, famines, and widespread discontent were interpreted as signs that the ruler had lost the Mandate, and their reign could be challenged.
The Mandate of Heaven and the Divine Right of Kings are both concepts that legitimized rulers' authority, but they differed in how that authority was perceived and justified. The Mandate of Heaven, a Chinese concept, suggested that a ruler's right to rule was granted by Heaven, but this mandate could be revoked if the ruler became tyrannical or incompetent. The Divine Right of Kings, a European concept, asserted that monarchs derived their authority directly from God, making them accountable to no earthly authority.

We also know how extremely badly this concept has been abused over the centuries - the Inquisition perhaps being the greatest example of this abuse.

Again, a fascinating look back into humanity's ancient past and the symbols that originated from those beginnings. Thanks @MJF for all your incredible input and session links. So yeah - Learning is Fun!
 
An interesting fact that I happened to run across from the Quora:

Have you ever wondered about this symbol—a winged staff with two snakes coiling around it?

This is the Caduceus, the staff of the Greek god, Hermes; the god of travelling and communication, the messenger of the gods, the god of thievery, gamblers, and liars.
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By extension, the caduceus is also a recognized symbol of commerce and negotiation, two realms in which balanced exchange and reciprocity are recognized as ideals.

“The myths around this staff are many but none point towards medicine.”
Why then, is his staff used as the symbol of the field on medicine?

Confusing, right?

All this is a result of years of erroneous documentation. The symbol was supposed to be the staff of Greek god, Asclepius, god of healing and medicinal arts. He is also the son of Apollo, the physician.

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Very few are aware of the fact that the Rod of Asclepius is the true symbol of medicinal arts and healing.
Source: Only 6% of doctors knew the real symbol of medicine, “Staff of Asclepius”

Well, that's a new one on me as well!

Additional text from the source link:
Asclepius is the deity associated with healing and medicinal arts in Greek mythology. He is the son of Apollo, the physician. He became so proficient in healing that he surpassed his father and was believed to be able to evade death and to bring others back to life from the brink of death and beyond.

In Greek mythology snakes were considered sacred. There are many theories for the why the snake is part of the symbol.

The snake that’s wrapped around the rod may symbolize rejuvenation, because snakes shed their skin, or it could simply represent the healing of snakebites.”

The staff too has many interpretations. A well known one is very directly related to medicine.

“It could be a reference to a traditional treatment of a parasitic nematode called Dracunculus medinensis or Guinea worm, in which, doctors would cut a slit in the skin right in its path and, when it poked its head from the wound, take a small stick and slowly wrap the worm around it until it was fully removed. The infection is relatively rare today, but the same extraction method is still used.”

Erroneous Usage

The erroneous usage of the caduceus as the symbol of medicine was popularized by a mistake in 1902 when the US Army Medical Corps adopted it as their insignia. To date, many commercial healthcare organizations use the symbol in US.

Oh - so another example of military intelligence! ;-D
 
Fwiw , one interpretation of the Rod of Asclepius is , the rod part represents the human column , the snake the "kundalini" rising up through it ( the little serpent some have called it , i think ) , the wings and circle would have analogous body parts as well . Of course one could argue that this symbol can also be interpreted in a micro scale if it applies , not sure on it however.
 
Just to continue on the symbolic theme of wings, there's this:

The Double-Headed Eagle
The double-headed eagle is one of the oldest Indo-European symbols and is mostly associated with Christianity, Paganism and in the symbolic usage in historically great empires such as the Byzantine empire, Holy Roman empire and Russia.

Origins of the double-headed eagle
The two-headed eagle is of Hittite origin. The Hittites were an ancient Anatolian (modern-day Turkey) people who formed an empire between 1600-1180 BC and the Hittite Empire reached great heights during the mid-1300s BC, when it spread across Asia Minor, into the northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Following the Hittites two-headed eagles, there is a gap of almost two millennia before the double-headed eagle motif reappears.

Jewish Heraldry and Chandeliers in synagogues
The symbol is not considered to be a jewish symbol in itself, however the double-headed eagle was a common heraldic item that was used on chandeliers in Ashkenazi synagogues and on objects such as menorah's, torah shields, as well as as on jewish tombs and in the home, throughout Europe until the Second World War. Like others, European Jews used heraldry and adopted coats of arms, and contrary to the belief that heraldry was reserved for nobility or knights, it appears that the Jewish use can be traced back as far as to the 14th century.

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This referenced blog post goes on to note additional Jewish use of the double-headed eagle:

Also:
  • Spiritual Growth: The connection to spirituality is another reason wings are often used in charms. From ancient times to modern day, wings symbolize the soul’s journey towards enlightenment, reminding the wearer to stay grounded while reaching for higher wisdom.

And this biblical reference that's been adapted to our FOTCM prayer:
A Symbol of Divine Protection and Refuge

The symbolism of wings as divine protection and refuge is quite recurrent in the Hebrew Bible, particularly in the poetic books. In Psalms, for instance, wings frequently symbolize God's sheltering presence and protective care. Such metaphor was used to communicate the concept that in difficulties, God becomes a place of refuge, as a bird provides for its young.

One of the most frequently quoted verses to this effect is Psalm 91:4, which says: "He will cover you with his pinions, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness is a shield and buckler.".

Some additional interesting (but perplexing) tidbits:

Caduceus symbol is identified with thieves, merchants, and messengers.
In giving this more thought, maybe the Caduceus is the appropriate symbol of our conventional modern medicine and practitioners!

[NOTE: I'm finding that the google intros for some of these links do not contain what's written - very odd/bait & switch? - this first one was totally different so I didn't even bother posting the link]

Below: the Winged Disc still inspires corporate logos around the world


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Back to the double-headed eagle:

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The Double-Headed Eagle is a symbol dating back to ancient cultures such as the Egyptians, Babylonians, etc. The oldest such motif ever discovered was found in Jiroft, Iran and dates back to 3000 B.C. The symbol is known to have esoteric and alchemical connotations. The image on the right is from an old manuscript called “Secret Symbols of the Rosicrucians of the 16th and 17th Centuries” and, as you can see, it also displays three alchemical glyphs for “Salt, Sulphur, and Mercury”. This symbol relates to the alchemical regeneration and transmutation of the “soul personality” in the individual: a spiritual alchemical awakening process that can only be integrated by upright living. The double-headed eagle is also known as the “phoenix, the bird of resurrection”. This mythical bird was said to live up to 500 or 1000 years. The phoenix was known as the Swan of the Greeks and the Eagle to the Romans. According to the ancient mystics, this bird was the symbol of the immortality of the Soul, one side Feminine (Left) relating to the Moon, the other Masculine (Right) relating to the Sun, representing the duality of the Spirit and the Soul, the Ba and the Ka of the Egyptian, and Eros and Psyche of the Greeks. In the words of Hermes Trismegistus:

“The Sun is its father, the Moon is its mother, the Wind has carried it in its belly, its nurse is the Earth.”

The union between these two dualities produces a spiritual awakening and an alchemical reaction within the soul personality of the individual. In the 16th century Rosicrucian manifestos, this is referred to as the “Alchemical Wedding” which is the alchemical Magnum Opus or the Great Work. The Rebis image from the book “Theoria Philosophiae Hermeticae” by Heinrick Nollius explains this union of opposites. You will find familiar Masonic emblems being held by the “Great Hermaphrodite”. In Freemasonry, the symbol of the 18th degree of the Scottish Rite is the pelican or the eagle. The Hebrew masculine noun “רחם” means “a kind of vulture or Pelican”. In fact, the name Abraham contains this very reference: “Ab” meaning “Father” and “Raham” meaning ”Pelican”. The name of Abraham correlates to an alchemical implication where Abram means “exalted father or sublime”. The major character of the Blue Lodge Degree Hiram in Hebrew means “Exalted Brother or Sublime”. These symbols and rituals, as well as the characters, are allegorical. They held that initiation elevated the soul from a material, sensual and purely human life, to a communion and celestial intercourse with the gods. The Three alchemical symbols “Sulphur, Salt, and Mercury” pertain to the three Degrees of the Blue Lodge.

Again, an intriguing intro nowhere in the link or the eagle image:
The Double-Headed Eagle or the phoenix is a symbol of the spiritual resurrection of the human soul and should be of interest to Masons since the phoenix ... :huh: I don't get it.

BTW - how did I miss this:

In 2025, we welcome the Year of the Wood Snake. It is also known as the Year of the Green Snake because according to the Chinese Five Elements theory, wood is associated with green.
So, it's the year of the Snake! 🐍
The sixth animal in the Chinese zodiac, the Snake, symbolizes complexity, mystery, initiation, and transformation. In terms of elemental energy, The Wood Snake is seductive and creative, as well as absolutely ruthless. Myriad schools of myth recognize the Snake as a powerful totem of healing and personal evolution.

Well, enough symbolism for now. Time for 😴.
 
Can you cook a week's worth of lunch meals on Sunday? For me, if I was eating carbs, that would look like one large pot of rice (5 cups), a large pot of meat (5 lbs), and one large pot of bone broth. Then before work I would heat it all up, and put each food into it's own small thermos.

FYI peanut butter is also pretty notorious for being inflammatory, just by itself chemically, but also because most industrial nuts are full of mold spores, and most nut butters go rancid on the shelves. I don't consider it to be food.
I meal prep, but usually just for 3-4 days because I'd end up wasting food due to not being able to eat it for lunches. I'll save up for a thermos, I didn't even know they made them for solid foods so I appreciate that! It could be my solution to my lunch problem.

I am a little confused tho because @Jo Bugman mentioned eating peanut butter which I thought was really bad, along with all other nuts? I also saw mention of sweet potato, and you’re recommending rice.
I'm certainly not condoning eating PB&Js! :lol: I avoided bread for years until a few months ago. Preferably, I'd love to switch over to the carnivore diet soon and see how I react. For now, I am, as they say, 'balling on a budget', until I can find a place that sells meats at a fair price like others have mentioned.
 
I meal prep, but usually just for 3-4 days because I'd end up wasting food due to not being able to eat it for lunches. I'll save up for a thermos, I didn't even know they made them for solid foods so I appreciate that! It could be my solution to my lunch problem.

What I do to keep the meat thermos hot is fill it up with meat, then top it up with boiling bone broth. IIRC, liquid is a better thermal battery than solid. After many hours, my meat thermos is usually still steaming. With the rice, I just let it be whatever temp it wants.
 
Fwiw , one interpretation of the Rod of Asclepius is , the rod part represents the human column , the snake the "kundalini" rising up through it ( the little serpent some have called it , i think ) , the wings and circle would have analogous body parts as well . Of course one could argue that this symbol can also be interpreted in a micro scale if it applies , not sure on it however.
I found another version of the crop circle I posted earlier.

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And yesterday the book Thunderbolts of the Gods by Talbot and Thornhill arrived. Right away I read the first chapter (and looked ahead at the next) and found something that I had forgotten and something new.

On page 54 is a depiction of the trident.



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Now, back on page 24, I read a description that surprised me in reference to the 'rope of circles'.



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Now, this "stacked toruses" sequence holds a second connection for me. If you've looked into acoustical levitation, then you've probably run into this video or video's like it. Notice how the standing wave of acoustical levitation is basically identical to the stacked toruses of plasma discharge.




So, acoustical levitation was created to counteract gravity, a weak force. But plasma deals in the considerably stronger force of electromagnetism. Imo, that's the difference between 'acoustical levitation' and 'sound wave focusing' and the two concepts should be separated.
Was going through the Sound wave focusing thread follow up and the plasma thread image caught my attention as to how it resembles the caduceus , vis a vis looking at it from a more micro scale perspective. ( cross linking it here because it does seem to relate , if it's not appropriate please remove post :) )
 
I'm certainly not condoning eating PB&Js! :lol: I avoided bread for years until a few months ago. Preferably, I'd love to switch over to the carnivore diet soon and see how I react. For now, I am, as they say, 'balling on a budget', until I can find a place that sells meats at a fair price like others have mentioned.

No judgement here! I’m using the first week of my new carnivore diet to figure out a realistic budget for the coming weeks as I definitely overspent (and overate) for this one.
 
With regards to "you will be shocked"; i just read this earlier on the news :

Airlines prepare for nuclear war​

"Jets could continue to fly following an atomic blast as insurers scramble to combat escalating conflicts"


While i dont think there will be nuclear war - but it is certainly interesting. Events are unfolding and i think various companies/organizations "in the know" are preparing accordingly...

As per the comments on Sott articles lately - with Trump not listening to Bibi, STS "plans" are being pushed into the corner..... a false flag incident is indeed a possibility.
 
Just to continue on the symbolic theme of wings, there's this:



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This referenced blog post goes on to note additional Jewish use of the double-headed eagle:

Also:


And this biblical reference that's been adapted to our FOTCM prayer:


Some additional interesting (but perplexing) tidbits:


In giving this more thought, maybe the Caduceus is the appropriate symbol of our conventional modern medicine and practitioners!

[NOTE: I'm finding that the google intros for some of these links do not contain what's written - very odd/bait & switch? - this first one was totally different so I didn't even bother posting the link]

Below: the Winged Disc still inspires corporate logos around the world


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Back to the double-headed eagle:

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Again, an intriguing intro nowhere in the link or the eagle image:
The Double-Headed Eagle or the phoenix is a symbol of the spiritual resurrection of the human soul and should be of interest to Masons since the phoenix ... :huh: I don't get it.

BTW - how did I miss this:


So, it's the year of the Snake! 🐍


Well, enough symbolism for now. Time for 😴.
In Daoist cycles/circles ---
The Metal Snake will be our companion from May 5th until June 4th.

The motto : do not spit your venom!

Tips of the month : running away is sometimes the solution...

May 5th & 6th: lacking of Water
- pay attention to Lungs/Kidneys connection (metal/water element)


From May 7th to 18th: lacking of Fire- chant and sing to build fire !


From May 19th to 30th: lacking of Earth
- stay warm/grounding !

From May 31st to June 4th: lacking of Wood

- the Snake attacks - connect with energies of water/ earth nourish /consilidate wood element
The Metal Snake tends to have a hot and dry constitution, making them prone to respiratory, lung, and cardiovascular issues. A light diet, regular exercise (such as qigong or swimming), and stress management are recommended.

Cultural Symbolism
In traditional Chinese culture, the Metal Snake symbolizes power and transformation. Its Metal element corresponds to the virtue of “from reform,” implying growth through refinement. The Bái là jīn (白蜡金) sound suggests that strength requires Fire to refine and Earth to support, allowing for significant accomplishments. In folk traditions, the Metal Snake is associated with gold and white,

The Metal Snake’s strengths lie in decisiveness, strategy, and leadership abilities, work on humility and adaptability. By balancing the sharpness of Metal with the Snake’s flexibility, one can achieve breakthroughs in both career and personal lives. Paying attention to emotional management and fostering cooperative/communal collaboration will allow for natural strengths into lasting success and happiness.
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Was going through the Sound wave focusing thread follow up and the plasma thread image caught my attention as to how it resembles the caduceus , vis a vis looking at it from a more micro scale perspective. ( cross linking it here because it does seem to relate , if it's not appropriate please remove post :) )
Thank you for mentioning the possible connection between the caduceus and plasma discharges. I strongly suspect that some ancient symbols such as the caduceus and the trident may be connected to ancient technology dating back to Atlantean times.

This is true, I believe, of the Djed Pillar (see image below) which was one of the most iconic symbols of ancient Egyptian culture where it represented not only stability and strength but also Egyptian beliefs surrounding the afterlife since it was sometimes referred to as the “backbone of Osiris”, linking it directly to the Egyptian god of the afterlife or underworld. It is said that after Osiris was killed by his evil brother Set, he was resurrected by his wife Isis, who used the Djed Pillar in her magic to bring him back to life [MJF: which makes me think of TDARM's like the one buried on Oak Island that the C's referred to as a regeneration or resurrection device that they also linked mysteriously with the Ark of the Covenant]. This narrative underscores the Djed Pillar’s significance as a symbol of resurrection and eternal life.
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Architecturally, the Djed Pillar was often incorporated into temple designs and structures. It symbolised the strength and stability of the divine, serving as a foundation for the spiritual and physical realms. Many temples featured Djed Pillars as part of their columns, reinforcing the idea of a stable and eternal presence of the gods. This makes me think of the two famous columns in the Temple of Jerusalem called Boaz and Jachin, which were two copper, brass or bronze pillars which stood on the porch of Solomon's Temple. They are still used as symbols in Freemasonry today.

The Djed Pillar was central to various rituals, including the annual Osiris Mysteries. During these ceremonies, priests would raise the Djed Pillar (see image below) to symbolize the resurrection of Osiris and, by extension, the stability of the universe. This act was believed to ensure balance and harmony within the community and the cosmos. The Djed was also used as an amulet, placed near the spines of mummified bodies, and the image painted on their coffin. The amulet was intended to allow the deceased to live eternally, and to ensure their resurrection. [For more see:The Djed Pillar: A Symbol of Stability, Strength, and the Afterlife -]​

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But coming back to what was said in a previous post about kundalini energy rising up through the spine and the chakras, this idea may be incorporated into the concept of the Djed Pillar, since when a person died the Djed Pillar was then thought to represent their spine. The spine was thought to keep Osiris upright and able to function as the primary god of the dead. This is even referenced in the Egyptian Book of the Dead: “Raise yourself up Osiris. You have your backbone once more, weary-hearted One; you have bones”.

For modern eyes though, the Djed Pillar more closely resembles an electrical device, which perhaps is similar in many ways to the conductors or insulators that we see today on posts that hold electric power lines. This is clearly demonstrated in the video found at this link: Egyptian Djed Pillar link to technology - Suchen Videos

The C's confirmed long ago that the Great Pyramid was a power plant:
Q: (L) Who built the great pyramid?

A: Atlanteans.

Q: (L) What year was it built?

A: 10643 years ago.

Q: (L) Why was it built? What purpose was it used for?

A: Capture cosmic energy.

Q: (L) And what was this cosmic energy used for once it was captured?


A: Many things. Power, transport, healing, mind control, climate, et cetera.

This leads us back to the Atlantean survivors who built the Great Pyramid complex and their links to the Brotherhood of the Serpent:​

Q: (L) Is there a connection between the number 33 and the Great Pyramid in Egypt?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what is that connection? Is it that the builders of the pyramid participated in this secret society activity?

A: Yes. And what symbol did you see in "Matrix," for Serpents and Grays?

Q: (L) You are talking about the triangle with the Serpent's head in it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are we talking in terms of this 33 relating to a group of "aliens," or a group of humans with advanced knowledge and abilities?

A: Either/or.

Q: (L) Is this what has been referred to in the Bramley book [Gods of Eden] as the Brotherhood of the Serpent or Snake?

A: Yes.


Given that one of the purposes the C's said the Great Pyramid was built for was mind control, this suggests that these Atlantean survivors were still trying to carry on their anti-diluvial activities, which seemed to have involved, inter alia, mind control (think also of HAARP today) using crystals:
Q: If the Gypsies were gene spliced, who were they gene spliced with?

A: Alien race, humanoid, and Atlantean drone workers.


Q: What were Atlantean drone workers?

A: Slave people controlled by crystal.


Q: Why do the Gypsies remain so cohesive? Is that genetically programmed?

A: Yes. And mind control.


The mention of the number 33 makes me think of the 33rd degree of Freemasonry, which the C's said was the starting point of the Freemasonry practised by the Osirians, who were the ancient progenitors of modern Freemasonry. This takes us back to Osiris once more and the Djed Pillar representing Osiris's spine or backbone, which is reflected in the belief by some Freemasons that the 33rd degree represents the number of vertebrae in a man's spine, including the spine itself. As to which group actually built the Great Pyramid, when Laura asked the question, the C's failed to provide an answer:
Q: (L) You said on previous occasions that the pyramids in Egypt - that is, the Great Pyramid at Giza and its companions - were built by Atlantean descendants. We would like to know which precise group of Atlantean descendants built these specific pyramids?

A: Leave this one until you have connected more dots.

Q: (L) Is it going to surprise us?


A: No doubt!

Well, it seems this group may have come from Turkey, specifically the area in which Goblekli Tepe is located. Was this group connected to the Brotherhood of the Serpent or possibly also to the Rosteem of Rostau* (Giza) who the C's said manifest today as the Rosicrucians. It is also curious that if you flatten the sides of Great Pyramid of Giza you will get a cross similar to that of the Knights Templar bearing in mind that each side of the pyramid is slightly concave.

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*The ancient Egyptians called the Great Pyramid complex in Egypt the Ros-tau. The Giza-Rostau complex was at the end of the ‘sacred road of the neters,’ suggesting it was a passageway used by the gods to enter the Tuat or underworld ruled by Osiris.

And mention of the Brotherhood of the Serpent leads us back to Ea or Enki once more, a Cassiopean teacher according to the C's, who is also linked with a pillar in Mesopotamian artwork, where he was often portrayed as a bearded-man serpent floating beside a pillar (see image below):

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According to American author and researcher William Henry, in Egypt, Ea is a perfect match for the bearded man-serpent Thoth (see below), the wisdom-bearer and his pillar, whose symbol was the winged serpent staff (bringing us back to the caduceus again).
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His pillar can be seen supported by lions in the left-hand corner of the image. The hieroglyph of the Casket or Pillar of Os-Iris shown below also matches this configuration. This device (‘vessel’, ‘ark’) held the ‘head’ of Osiris’. His ‘head’, a symbol for his soul, itself symbolised by a serpent, hangs from his pillar.
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A portion of the hieroglyph of Osiris​

Henry states: "In this glyph we see a shape that appears to be that of a structure with a vaulted roof and high wall (or antennas) that extend beyond the roofline. This is the symbol for ‘sanctuary’ in ancient Lower Egypt. Flanking this symbol are two TET (‘stabilizer’) pillars, also called djed (pronounced jed) pillars."

I don't know about you but the hieroglyph seems more like symbols for some unknown technology to me. For those familiar with my work, they will know that I believe the Grail is in fact the pure crystal skull revered by the Knights Templar, which they called Baphomet (Baptism of Wisdom):
Q: Okay. I have several books on the subject. I will start tomorrow. Now, when the Templars were arrested, they were accused of worshipping a head, or skull, and also the god Baphomet. Were these spurious accusations designed to defame them?

A: Skull was of pure crystal.

Q: What is the definition of the god 'Baphomet,' if they did, indeed, worship such?

A: The holder of the Trent.
[MJF: "Trent" can mean three or even an abbreviation for "trident"]

This crystal skull may have been an artificial intelligence in its own right but considerably more sophisticated than anything we have today, being able to communicate psychically with the right (STO) individuals. I also believe that this object was the 'head of Osiris' that was indeed held in an Ark, specifically the Ark of the Covenant, which was possessed by the Egyptian pharaohs until it was stolen from Pharaoh Akhenaten by his wife Queen Nefertiti and presented to her lover Abraham/Moses who then took it into the Sinai Wilderness with the Israelites (Hittite/Levites). This crystal skull, the Grail or Merkabah Stone, was a repository for an immense amount of accumulated knowledge and data that may well have steered the Egyptian 'Boat of a Million Years' in its guise as the head of Osiris from Kantek to Earth before that planet's destruction rather like the Ark which rescued Noah in the biblical story of the Deluge:
Q: (L) Okay, going back to the pyramid. In the Pyramid Texts, when they talk about the ‘Boat of Millions of Years,’ what are they talking about?

A: Time machine.

In some images of the Boat of a Million Year, Osiris's head is often shown as a prominent feature.


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William Henry develops the links between this solar barque (as depicted at Dendera above) and the Ark of the Covenant in his fascinating article The Ark's Missing Piece which I am including as an attachment for those who are interested.

However, the Egyptian god Thoth is also linked with Hermes Trismegistus, the first great Egyptian philosopher and founder of the Ancient Mystery Schools, who supposedly received his wisdom whilst in meditative trances, writing over 40 books including (allegedly) the Emerald Tablet and The Book of Thoth. Unfortunately, Hermes Trismegistus does not get a good press from the C's:
Q: (L) Who was Hermes Trismegistus?

A: Traitor to court of Pharoah Rana.

Q: (L) Who is Pharoah Rana?

A:
Egyptian leader of spiritual covenant.

Q: (L) In what way was Hermes a traitor?

A
: Broke covenant of spiritual unity of all peoples in area now known as Middle East.

Q: (L) Who did Hermes betray?


A: Himself; was power hungry.

Q: (L) What acts did he do?


A: Broke covenant; he inspired divisions within ranks of Egyptians, Essenes, Aryans, and Persians et cetera.

Q: (L) What was his purpose in doing this?

A: Divide and conquer as inspired by those referred to as Brotherhood in Bramley book you have read.


Q: (L) Is this the Brotherhood of the snake Hermes formed in rejection of unity?

A: Hermes did not form it; it was long since in existence.


And this betrayal (involving no doubt a misuse of knowledge) seems to have taken place long before the establishment of dynastic Egypt under Menes, the legendary First Pharoah of a unified Egypt and instigator of Egypt's First Dynasty:

Q: (L) Previously when I had asked a question about Hermes Trismegistus, you remarked that he was a 'traitor to the court of Pharoah Rana.' Who was this Pharoah Rana? Was he prior to the Pharoah Menes?

A: Much prior.


I would like to return though to the subject of plasma since you kindly attached a crop circle image which had a snake-like appearance, with what appears to be a trident shape at its head.
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Curiously, there are 33 circles of all kinds depicted in the image, which makes me think of the Brotherhood of the Serpent and the 33rd degree of Freemasonry. You then attached plasma images which appeared trident like (see below):​

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However, these images also appear very 'chalice' like to me, which prompts me to quote from the Session dated 2 January 1999:

Q: On a couple of occasions when you have made the remark ‘it is not germaine,’ using that peculiar spelling, did you mean that it was not only NOT German, but also NOT French?


A: Maybe. [MJF: Reputedly, the Comte de Saint Germaine was neither French nor German - see my earlier post]

Q: So, we are back to something else. I once asked about the Third Man Theme and that perhaps you meant that the imagery was that of the Triple Goddess relating to the Isle of Man … and you said ‘if viewed through sheets of rain.’ So, in this book that I am reading, it talks about the fact that the Celts of Gaul worshipped the Rain as the manifestation of the Goddess, and the Celts of Scotland worshipped the Sun … the male God. Does this relate in any way to this remark you made about sheets of rain?

A: In an offhand way.

Q: Anything further you can tell me in terms of a clue about ‘sheets of rain?’

A: Not for now, when you get there, you will find the chalice.

Q: Where and WHAT chalice?


A: Wait and see!

This subject was followed up in the Session dated 28 May 2013:

Q: (L) Today is 28 May 2013. And we apparently have a bunch of questions written down here, and a lot of things on our minds. So I guess we might as well get started here. Hello.

A: New world coming.

Q: (L) And who do we have with us tonight?

A: Miecekaii of Cassiopaean Future.

Q: (L) What did you mean by, "New world coming"?

A: You are in the transition and it will accelerate dramatically soon.

Quote from Session dated 13 February 2011:

Q: (Andromeda) What's up with the cracked airplane windows that have been showing up in the news?

A: Electrical charges have many effects. By the way, that is the reason for some of the animal deaths: electrical discharges.

Q: (Belibaste) Because there's more dust between the ionosphere and the surface of the earth. (A***) Is that also why I've been getting shocked by electrical equipment recently?

A: Yes

Q: (Perceval) Is that electrical discharges from the sun, or...

A: Sheets of rain, or dust plus electricity. Snow too.

(L) So that was the last reference to the term that is exercising my mind right now: “sheets of rain”, and what brought it to my mind was of course the current state of the planet which is quite dire as far as I can see. There are enormous amounts of rain falling in many, many places. It's been raining here almost continuously since December at least, and we had rain before that. (Perceval) It's still snowing in a lot of places. (L) It's snowing in places, and you just mentioned that in this last excerpt... You said, "Sheets of rain, or dust plus electricity. Snow too." And Belibaste asked, "Because there's more dust between the ionosphere and the surface of the earth." Is that what we're looking at in the term “sheets of rain”? Something that conducts electricity... Is this related to these extreme amounts of rainfall and snowfall? Is it all electrical phenomena, like even the jet stream and all that sort of thing?

A: Indeed, and the rain can conduct.

Q: (L) Okay, so going back to my triple goddess viewed through sheets of rain, since I now have a different understanding of what these "gods" and "goddesses" represented, that they probably were cometary bodies... What you're saying, or what I'm assuming you're saying, is the triple goddess viewed through sheets of rain is essentially a comet or comets? Is it electrical discharges? (Belibaste) The cause of the sheets of rain might be the triple goddess, i.e. triple comet. (L) Oh... Is Belibaste right on that? That the cause of the sheets of rain could be a triple cometary body?

A: Close. Also consider plasma shapes including those that may appear "chalice like".
[MJF: some are trident shaped too like the three-pronged spear/trident that the god Neptune /Poseidon is depicted as carrying.]

Q: (Belibaste) This cometary body is highly charged, and because of potential difference, there's a discharge with the surface of earth, in the atmosphere, leading to sheets and rain and thunders and plasma sheath which can have a chalice shape. (L) What has recently been working in my mind is the observation that when the earth is in a comet dust stream, it apparently affects the weather profoundly. That means a lot of cloud cover and rain. This seems to have been true about past events in history. I noticed that I didn’t get a single viewing day for one of the recent comets. So I began to wonder just what the deal was. How could the ancients have seen the alleged comet gods if the sky was under cloud cover most of the time! So this might explain it. There were close passages and plasma discharges viewed through cloud cover or “sheets of rain” and we know that some of the plasma formations can be quite anthropomorphic looking among other shapes. (Perceval) It seems it's a compounding effect where cometary bodies have electric effects on the planet that disrupt the planet in different ways that may cause increased precipitation, which then allows for further cometary activity? (Ark) Well, but I would like to ask about what is the nature of the dust? Earth origin or cometary origin?

A: Cometary, and some still holds charge.

Q: (L) Well, we've certainly been having, in addition to all of this rain, a veritable sprinkle storm of little meteorites that hit people's houses, and hit people's cars. It's getting to the point where it's like weekly and sometimes multiple times a week. It's not - I don't believe - a phenomenon of people simply reporting it more or noticing it more. It's just like freaking bizarre!

A: See opening remarks.

Q: (L) You mean "new world coming", well a new world coming means that the old world has to go. That doesn't strike me as being entirely pleasant.

A: You have long been aware of the cataclysmic nature of cosmic transitions, why get nervous now that it is at the door?


So, we have the C's saying at the end of this latest session:

A: No dice tonight. Wait and see! You will be shocked! Goodbye.

And electrical discharges can, of course, produce electric shocks. Are we about to see sheets of rain or cometary showers inducing plasma discharges all over the place as things worsen in the near future?

By an odd coincidence, Laura also mentions in the 13 February 2011 session that the current state of the planet is "quite dire" as far as she can see. Curious then that in the previous session dated 29 March 2025 the C's finished with the statement that:

A: Yes, things may get dire as summer approaches. Just sit tight and hang on! Goodbye.

So, could severe plasma discharges be in the offing soon producing electric shocks here, there and everywhere?
 

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Thank you all involved in the session!

(Ze Germans) Does smoking organic additive-free tobacco have more benefits than the healthiest form of vaping?

A: No.
This made me read more about this:-D
(Chu) It's a mix that many people use, and it's been posted on the forum thread.

(Saman) Is it on the e-cigarettes research thread?
Because the tabacco(without additives) that I was ordering was out of stock; I ordered a vape.
Next steps: to continue reading the e-cigarettes thread and use nicotine without PG.
 
…………... Something is not clear to me, so if someone can explain it to me? How can you be in 4D without knowing?
Hmm, likely this thread’s question still could benefit of more review and contemplation by us. Okay, it seems safe to assert that there are many possible events (and so, sensations?) during the transition from 3d to 4d —such as like the thermonuclear blast cited by C’s?!!! Yet, if we look to other C’s statements we also realize that 4D can not be defined by 3D conceptions. Just, it is the way it is, and in not a familiar way at all. But then still can we have “smooth” transitions to 4D for either initial, short or long periods, or whatsoever? So, for some the change to 4D is like a common walking, while for others may be vivid like (literally?) a cosmic explosion?
January 7, 1995 Session
Q: (L) …………..John said that he experienced and also, Terry’s dad, and also something woke A__ up with a start and I was awakened with a strange feeling. We are a little bit curious about this event, this occurrence, and we would like to have some information on it. What exactly was it?
A: Thunder.

Q: (L) It seemed to be an extraordinarily massive strike, and it seemed to have been heard at a great distance in several directions. Where, in fact, did this lightning bolt strike?
A: Cell was uniformly structured throughout region.

Q: (T) So we all heard that particular blast because of that?
A: No. Each zone received similar EM (electromagnetic)profile, thus one particularly heavily charged event in each zone.
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Q: (L) Since this was such a boomer, what exactly was going on on 4th density that produced a boomer like this?
A: Overlapping densities, lasting approximately 1.3 seconds, as you measure time i.e.: for 1.3 seconds, you lived completely in 4th density.

July 25, 1998 Session
Q: (L) So, knowledge is going to protect us against post transformational trauma and confusion. You are saying that this transition to 4th density is going to be traumatic and confusing. Do you mean transformation from 3rd to 4th density, or 3rd to 5th density, i.e. death?
A: Both.

Q: (L) So, if one does not have the shock and trauma and the confusion and so forth, one is then able to function better?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, if a person transitions directly from 3rd to 4th density without cycling through 5th density via dying, that implies that persons can transition directly from 3rd to 4th density without dying. Is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How does that feel? How is that experience...
A: Alice through the looking glass.

Q: (A) Okay, they say that knowledge is supposed to protect from trauma and confusion. On the other hand, all is lessons, so trauma is a lesson. Why are we supposed to work to avoid a lesson?
A: You are correct, it is a lesson, but if you have foreknowledge, you are learning that lesson early, and in a different way.

Q: (L) So, if you learn the lesson in a different way, does that mitigate the need or the way or the process of the way of learning at the time of transition?
A: Yes. Smoother.

April 4th 2015 Session
A: For some things (brought about the Wave) may be more dramatic than others.
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(Galatea) Are you saying that for some people this transition will be painful?
A: Yes.

(L) I think they said that after the Wave there would be a 1000 year period as 3D transition into 4D.
A: Yes

Q: (L) So in other words, in a sense that is kind of like a 1000 year process of the Wave. The creation of a totally new reality obviously, in cosmic terms, takes that strange process that doesn't exist called time to manifest. But obviously, they are now talking about the breaking down process, the chaos.
A: Yes. Now you begin to see what "time" really is: cosmic processes of almost infinite duration. But do not be complacent because some of these processes can be rather "quick" and devastating from your perspective.
Okay. Therefore, is our awareness what define boundaries between 3D and 4D states? Thus a blending of both is a possible resultant state? See, indeed such “blending” can last millenniums if we consider as such the account of Paul Dienach. Moreover, the C’s have pointed out to us the “Nation of the 3rd Eye.” That inner earth race apparently lives also in a hybrid environ transiting between 3d and 4D. Indeed the C’s asserted that they are 3D and 4D at the same time. So, can one not only transit, but also graduate to 4D and not realize it? Reviewing:
1 December 2018 Session
Q: (Adobe) Is it possible for a 3D STO candidate to find themselves in 4D and be little aware of it or not aware of it at all?
A: Yes Yes Yes

April 8th 2023 Session
(Ursus Minor): Will those who are new to 4D be bi-density?
A: To some extent, yes.

Sept. 14, 2002 Session
A: Humans were once "bi-density." And some may be again in the natural way. Those of 4D STS "manufacture" are similar. Just think of them as a type of OP with souped up engines.

June 15, 1996 Session
A: The entire sum total of all existence exists within each of you, and vice versa.
Q: (L) Then what is the explanation for the “manyness” that we perceive?
A: Perception of 3rd density.

Q: (L) So, the entire universe is inside me... okay, that’s... I understand. Oddly enough, I do. The problem is accessing it, stripping away the veils.
A: That is the fun part.

September 9, 1995 Session
Q: (L) How can a being be both 3rd and 4th density?
A: It is the environmental surroundings that count, not the structure of the individual. The same is true, for you. After all, you have read literature stating that your world or planet is in the process of ascending from 3rd to 4th density, have you not?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: And this literature has also stated that this is an ongoing process, has it not?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: Then, one must wonder, if it is an ongoing process, how would it be possible, if it is not possible, for a being to be in both 3rd and 4th density at one time... Also, if you will recall from review material, you are currently living in the same environment as 2nd and 1st density level beings. Is this not true?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: At least that is what you have been told. So, therefore, it is possible for a being to be in 3rd and 4th density. And as we have also told you, when 4th density beings visit 3rd density environment, they are, in effect, 3rd density beings, and vice versa. The so-called abduction takes place, especially if it is a physical abduction, the subject becomes temporarily 4th density, because it is the environment that counts. And the key factor there is awareness, not physical or material structure.

October 10, 1998 Session
Q: Is there any way to tell when you are viewing other densities as opposed to 3rd density? Is there any distinguishing characteristic?
A: That would be up to the awareness of the viewer.

November 23, 1996 Session
Q: (L) You have said twice that remote viewing was not “needed.” Where did he get his information?
A: Secret sources. Agents of the nation “of the third eye.”

Q: (J) What or who - is the “Nation of the Third Eye?”
A: Terran civilization under the surface.
………………….
Q: (L) Did the underground civilization develop on its own?
A: Yes.
………………….
A: The human types there are “bi-density.”
………………….
A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can “visit” 3rd density, but they must keep returning to 4th in order to “regenerate.”

Q: (T) Are you saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as long as they want in any density?
A: In 4th and 3rd.
But then 4D has some things in common with 3D? Well, like 2D is a shadow of 3D, then 3D maybe seems a micro-subset of 4D. But 4D is not 3D, we know that. Indeed according to the C's the 4th density seems nothing like 3rd density:
January 27, 1996 Session
A: Trust us to lead you when and how it is appropriate. You should already know that to attempt apply 3rd density study and interpretations to 4th density events and realities is useless in the extreme... This is why UFO researchers keep getting 3 new questions for every 1 answer they seek with their “research.” If you will trust us, we will always give you not only the most correct answers to each and every inquiry, but also the most profound answers. If the individual does not understand, then that means they are either prejudiced, or not properly tuned in.

Q: (L) Previously you told us about the SouthWest region of the United States becoming 4th density. Will the people who live there become 4th density beings? Or will they be 3rd density beings in 3rd density?
A: Some of both bleedin and bleedout.

June 29, 1996 Session
A: ………….First: your prophets have always used 3rd density symbology to try to convey 4th density realities. You are attempting to gather 3rd density answers to explain 4th through 7th density principles. This is why you are getting frustrated, because it doesn’t “mesh.”
So, again, how can someone transit to 4D and think he/she is still in 3D? As we have reviewed in this post this may happen for particular conditions, but always the awareness is at the root. That is, it seems that the appearance of a 4th density environ can be “conformed” and covered by 3D pre-conceptions of who just arrived there from 3D. As an example of that, more than once has been pointed out Lewis Carrol's description such as that seen in the Paul Dienach's thread. So, adding to that, we could remember that 4D sts entities —in this case applying to sts humans graduated from 3D earth— will see only what they wish to see:
October, 22 1994 Session
A: ………..We are able to see all, not just what we want to see. Their failing is that they see only what they want to see. In other words, it’s the highest manifestation possible of that which you would refer to as wishful thinking. And, wishful thinking represented on the fourth level of density becomes reality for that level. You know how you wishfully think? Well, it isn’t quite reality for you because you are on the third level, but if you are on the fourth level and you were to perform the same function, it would indeed be your awareness of reality. Therefore they cannot see what we can see since we serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on sixth level, we can see all that is at all points as is, not as we would want it to be.

December 29th 2018 Sesssion
A: Recall that 4D is a realm where thought has the power to create. If a mind, and here we mean much more than you understand as mind, thinks about a structure or something that needs to be accomplished, it assembles itself, more or less. Then when the structure is sent back through the realm curtain, the "idea" is the attractor blueprint that draws to itself the matching elements from your reality and they proceed through the process of organic assembly. This occurs because even inanimate matter has a minimal level of matching consciousness.
Moreover, how much disorientation gets someone when the 3D universe becomes a “cosmic blast” as one is pushed to integrate in the self a number of conscious versions of oneself? So, could be considered that sometimes the awareness of someone can be confused during a transition between 3D and 4D (or vice-versa) to the point that such an individual can become lost into an entanglement of 3D realities? Has this happened? Indeed, as we realize in some legends, that seems to be the case of some 4D personages, and even a group or an entire race, that became stranded in the physical 3D universe during the crossing between densities.

Now, would not be “funny” if that character or race could not remember that they came from a 4D state? See, this supposed entity would be not a “wanderer” exactly, but could turn into one as long memories start to be recovered.

And so, while writing down these notes, unexpectedly comes popping up to the mind the number 72 …like a beacon. Why, could be ask? Oh, yes, afterwards and promptly it recalls the Biblical “confusion of the tongues”. But on top of that and frankly saying, how could this number connect to the previous post which quotes the touching Beethoven's opus with some translation at the bottom of the last quotation?

So, we know that Babel Tower was an (STS or STO) effort for some unification of men. Then could be wondered: Was it like a failed transition to 4D? Then did it fail because not only the 4D STS overlords interrupted it, but also inverted its purpose resulting in the “Confusion of the Tongues? In any case and more to the point, at that era what kind of men were those building?

Well…. There are ancient traditions claiming that 72 —or 70— kings built the Babel Tower, and then we have that in China is told of 72 ancient rulers counted in this almost immemorial and last eon. Anyway, why 72?!! Is this number a symbol or what?!! Maybe factors of simple math?!! See? here does chime the celestial 9th symphony!!!

See, leaving out fanciness then we could recall the beforehand time of the Tower, i.e. earlier than the “confusion.” Therefore we can look into some peculiar passages in the Chinese and Celtic records, as well as, again our C’s:
Shiji, by the historian Sima Qian (c. 2nd century BC Chinese text)

From. the beginnings of highest antiquity, when august Heaven first created the people, until the time of the Chin, how many have been the lords who ruled generation after generation! When we survey the records of recent ages and hark back to the legends of far-off times, we find but a vast and shadowy confusion of figures whose names are no longer spoken, their numbers too great to be reckoned. Yet from the reigns of Shun and Yu, among those who were honored with titles and posthumous names, we may still count a total of 72 rulers. …………. Of those who went before the Yellow Emperor, aeons removed from us today, we can learn nothing in detail; but………..
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The Yellow Emperor mounted on the dragon’s back, followed by his ministers and palace ladies, making a company of over 70 persons. When they had all mounted, the dragon rose from the ground and departed. The lesser ministers, unable to mount the dragon, clung to its whiskers until the whiskers came out and fell to the ground, along with the bow of the Yellow Emperor. The common people gazed up into the sky till the Yellow Emperor had reached heaven and then they clasped the whiskers and the bow and began to wail. Therefore in later ages the spot where all of this took place was: named Cauldron Lake and the bow was called The Cry of Sorrow.

Auraicept: (8th century Irish script)

……….Nimrod, son of Cush, son of Ham, son of Noah. There was not then any king over the world till the time of Nin, son of Bel, but only counsellors and chiefs were in existence up till that time. 72 counsellors accordingly were in the world at the time in which the Tower was made. Now one of the 72 was Nimrod. …………. So that it was he who united those 72 counsellors to one counsel to make the Tower………….the building of that Tower was accomplished by Adam's children, to wit, for dread of the flood again, ……………the King of heaven to the people of heaven: come that we may see and confound those men's speech.

…………Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. ……... The reason why superiority is claimed on behalf of these 3 languages is owing to the amount of compositions that were made out of them, and owing to the mingling wherewith they mingled with every language, or again it was owing to the superscription that was written out of the 3 of them upon the board of the Cross.

May 13th 2023 Session
Q: (Ze Germans) Did humans speak one language before the Fall?
A: Yes.
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Q: (Ze Germans) Was telepathy how people communicated before the Fall?
A: Partly. But there were "sounds" emitted both by individuals in 4D as well as objects.
So, notice that “Hebrew, Greek and Latin” further than languages rather may apply to “3 unique categories.” And of course the memento:
September 20, 1997 Session
A: …………… it is from the Rose arose the Cross.
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Confusion o the Tongues, 1864, Gustave Dore
 
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