Session 28 June 2025

[Mrs. Peel]

Did they say that ?

Did you read this?

(msante) [Asks in Spanish if Laura was asking if his mom was sick. Chu confirms.] Yes, she had breast cancer. She had metastasis in her bones. And the last few weeks were really, really hard for us, because she was very bad, and well anyway, she passed away without pain and while she was sleeping. Thank you, Laura.

A: That is why she is doing so well.

Q: (L) So when you pass while you're sleeping, it's just like you just go into a dream and continue on, is that it?

A: Yes

 

[Alreadyin4thDensity Love]

Did you read this?

Yes, but it's not like they said it's the best way.
I personally like to decide what is best for me if I can, I like to think when someone says or writes something and decide by myself what is best for me or best in general not matter from whom information comes.
From my perspective death of physical body in fully conscious state is simply the best .

 

[Alreadyin4thDensity Love]

Isn't it enough that we do not remember past lives ???? Jesus holy, should we be afraid of dying in conscious but yearn to go in dream (another trance) state so to not feel pain or what ????? Long suffering for years or months is something else and I am not talking about that, I do not wish that to anyone, I had two grandfathers who suffered.
One of the worst things that happens to majority of people while in bodies is that they do not remember past lives.

 

[Mandrak]

Session 26 April 2025:
Q: (Ennio) May I ask how my mother is doing? She passed about a year and a half ago. I just want to know how she's doing.
A: Sleeping.
Q: (L) So another one, sleeping. When they're sleeping, why are they sleeping?
A: Recoup soul energy to enable them to face the difference between what they expected and what actually is.
Q: (L) So in general, it would behoove people to have reasonable expectations about what it's like to pass over to the other side, to die, to go to the other space. Is that it? Because then they wouldn't spend time sleeping.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And they wouldn't need to recoup soul energy from having all the wrong ideas.
A: Yes.

Session 28 June 2025:
Q: (L) So when you pass while you're sleeping, it's just like you just go into a dream and continue on, is that it?
A: Yes

A long time ago I read books about life after death, I think they were written by supposed psychics. And it was written that there they had houses, marriages, pets and so on and that it was arranged so that life would be somewhat similar to that on Earth for less shock. And that bothered me because so many possibilities open up there, but they weren't used, and what's the point of that? And because they lived according to their desire so much like on Earth and according to what the Cassiopaeans say, it is possible that this is what the result of dying in sleep looks like and being put into a state of sleep after death - it could be the same thing. Dreaming about it as if life continues without major interruption and thus people fulfill the same desires they had in their physical body: to have a nice house, family, nice weather. It's almost like a nursing home. People struggle all their lives to have something like that and then they die, I mean, that's why they get up every morning to work, to buy a house and in the end sit in it without worrying about money and food and the like. And how do you stop such a program when your whole life is dedicated to it? That's a big danger for us, as I see it. When additional possibilities open up, people remain trapped in the same framework as in the physical body. That's probably why it's important to go outside those frameworks as much as possible and then that will be the seed for new possibilities later. Souls probably eventually break out of it, but it's a huge waste of time and opportunity. Perhaps one could say: those who sleep, will continue to sleep (after death).

 

[Bernardo GA]

Mandrak said:

Session 26 April 2025:
Q: (Ennio) May I ask how my mother is doing? She passed about a year and a half ago. I just want to know how she's doing.
A: Sleeping.
Q: (L) So another one, sleeping. When they're sleeping, why are they sleeping?
A: Recoup soul energy to enable them to face the difference between what they expected and what actually is.
Q: (L) So in general, it would behoove people to have reasonable expectations about what it's like to pass over to the other side, to die, to go to the other space. Is that it? Because then they wouldn't spend time sleeping.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And they wouldn't need to recoup soul energy from having all the wrong ideas.
A: Yes.

Session 28 June 2025:
Q: (L) So when you pass while you're sleeping, it's just like you just go into a dream and continue on, is that it?
A: Yes

Perhaps one could say: those who sleep, will continue to sleep (after death).

It seems to me that this conclusion is somewhat imprecise, since it is taken from two exchanges in which in one they are talking about one thing and in the other they are talking about another.
Of course I'm just saying what I interpret and, that may also be inaccurate.


Specifically, in the first fragment of the session you quoted, they are referring to the need to sleep to recover energy, already being in 5D.

And in the other fragment you quoted, from the last session, they are referring to the benefit of being asleep at the moment of death. Which apparently is a kinder, gentler, less traumatic way at the moment of the passage to the other side.

What there is in common in these two contexts, is that in both they refer to sleeping in the literal sense, that is, resting.

However, if I understood your conclusion or comment correctly, you are referring to "sleep" but in a figurative sense. As when we refer, for example, to someone who only perceives the surface of reality and completely ignores what is really happening. And then in those cases we usually say that he is "sleeping".
Is that what you mean?

 

[SummerLite]

It's not quite diet Coke but it's an improvement.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945596757519294893

 

[Nienna]

A long time ago I read books about life after death, I think they were written by supposed psychics. And it was written that there they had houses, marriages, pets and so on and that it was arranged so that life would be somewhat similar to that on Earth for less shock. And that bothered me because so many possibilities open up there, but they weren't used, and what's the point of that? And because they lived according to their desire so much like on Earth and according to what the Cassiopaeans say, it is possible that this is what the result of dying in sleep looks like and being put into a state of sleep after death - it could be the same thing. Dreaming about it as if life continues without major interruption and thus people fulfill the same desires they had in their physical body: to have a nice house, family, nice weather. It's almost like a nursing home. People struggle all their lives to have something like that and then they die, I mean, that's why they get up every morning to work, to buy a house and in the end sit in it without worrying about money and food and the like. And how do you stop such a program when your whole life is dedicated to it? That's a big danger for us, as I see it. When additional possibilities open up, people remain trapped in the same framework as in the physical body. That's probably why it's important to go outside those frameworks as much as possible and then that will be the seed for new possibilities later. Souls probably eventually break out of it, but it's a huge waste of time and opportunity. Perhaps one could say: those who sleep, will continue to sleep (after death).

From several books I have read on the Afterlife, it has been noted that a lot of people who cross over need rest to recover from traumas suffered before they died. Also, so are very confused about the afterlife or don't believe in it at all so they need time to recover from the transition.

As to things seeming to be the same as they were in 3D once they have transitioned, it is the same reason: what they have believed before death. While they are in the "Summerland" as it has been called, they start to find out things and come to the realization that there is more than that "Summerland" and begin to start listening and learning from those who know the truth; and as their awareness grows, they leave "Summerland" to venture out into what comes next for them. It's about awareness and learning lessons just like it is here in 3D.

fwiw

 

[hugobos]

Many thanks for the work you have done, to all the members and volunteers who visit and contribute to the site.



Here is my analysis on this topic.


As soon as the idea of trying mass meditation came up, one word stood out to me: Mass.
In physics, mass is what causes gravity. Part of it interacts with the Higgs field, and most of it comes from strong interactions between particles. Energy is contained in mass.


I thought maybe there is an analogy here with mass meditation and the energy it represents. The Cs said that gravity goes through all densities.
If we apply the idea that gravity is a result of mass, maybe by analogy mass meditation creates another type of gravity – the gravity of consciousness.


Each meditator adds their mass of consciousness, which increases the chance of reaching the goal of this practice.
And of course, there is also the other side: negative consciousness (anger, war, chaos, sadness, fear, etc.).


So it’s a question of intention, which will polarize the energy.
There was an experiment about this called the Maharishi Effect.


The most famous example:
In the 1970s and 1980s, people trained in Transcendental Meditation meditated in groups in different cities around the world.
They noticed that when about 1% of the local population meditated together:

• Crime rates went down significantly
• Accidents, hospitalizations, and violent conflicts decreased

Some studies were published (including in the Journal of Conflict Resolution) trying to show this statistically. Even though it is debated, it interested some skeptical researchers.


I want to come back to the idea of mass, which is always positive and always creates gravity in the same direction: bodies attract each other, they do not repel.


There is a French researcher, Jean-Pierre Petit, who proposed a theory called the “JANUS model,” saying mass can be negative. In this case, masses with the same sign attract each other, and opposite masses repel each other.
This is very interesting because it shows that gravity could work like a magnet, with attraction and repulsion, just like electromagnetism.


Going back to my original idea of using classical physics as an analogy, it explains why negative consciousness repels positive consciousness. If such energy surrounds Earth, communication becomes very disturbed or complicated.


Personally, I think many people do mass negative meditation. The participation of Kabbalists is often mentioned, and we must not forget the mainstream media.


As for Trump and his speeches lately, it really feels like a John Wayne western. The sheriff is here but he doesn’t enforce the law, only what he thinks is the law. It’s really infantilizing.
He says he is for peace but allows Israel to bomb Gaza and Iran, and now gives weapons to Ukraine, even though his peace speech sounded kind.


In the end, we have to admit he’s a clown.
It’s sad for all those who had hope in him. Hope is faith, and faith is the strength needed for this world to evolve, so welcome mass meditation.


This is just my point of view. I said I wouldn’t post on the forum anymore, but it’s hard to leave your family…

Merci

 

[Moine]

A long time ago I read books about life after death, I think they were written by supposed psychics. And it was written that there they had houses, marriages, pets and so on and that it was arranged so that life would be somewhat similar to that on Earth for less shock. And that bothered me because so many possibilities open up there, but they weren't used, and what's the point of that? And because they lived according to their desire so much like on Earth and according to what the Cassiopaeans say, it is possible that this is what the result of dying in sleep looks like and being put into a state of sleep after death - it could be the same thing. Dreaming about it as if life continues without major interruption and thus people fulfill the same desires they had in their physical body: to have a nice house, family, nice weather. It's almost like a nursing home. People struggle all their lives to have something like that and then they die, I mean, that's why they get up every morning to work, to buy a house and in the end sit in it without worrying about money and food and the like. And how do you stop such a program when your whole life is dedicated to it? That's a big danger for us, as I see it. When additional possibilities open up, people remain trapped in the same framework as in the physical body. That's probably why it's important to go outside those frameworks as much as possible and then that will be the seed for new possibilities later. Souls probably eventually break out of it, but it's a huge waste of time and opportunity. Perhaps one could say: those who sleep, will continue to sleep (after death).

Hmm, I'd like to put something in different words.

We've been experiencing this "human" possibility of a third-density experience on Kantek, Mars, and Earth for ~309,000 years, according to the transcripts from the C's. That's not only a lot of different types of experiences to have reference cards for, once back in fifth density, but it's also a lot of experiential bias to then keep trying out new things along the current scheme of things, of course all while in an STS paradigm. This leads to significant inflections of one's soul, as it first twists itself into the life settings here, but also subsequently contorts as a soul undergoes the Service-to-Self experience (childhood, adulthood, work, play, opportunistic dreams/aspirations, et cetera).

For a soul to be able to unwind in a therapeutic fashion, to be able to then partake in the next possibility, that then might take some reflection, especially if a soul finds out that it ended up in basically the same position as it started, learning very little wisdom and still "choosing" to maintain a service-to-self orientation, especially in a human form. Of course, due to that experiential bias, we have a very hard time conceiving of other ideals, and then enacting them habitually. Our lives constantly reinforce self-centered: pleasure/pain, need/want, desire/attainment, and all of it is wrapped up with common shared experiences with others -- so there is little that we can even potentially do to conceive differently in this collectively embodied experience for now.

I'd like to imagine that after much reflection, a soul could potentially then ask: "Can I do differently, unselfishly?". However, I'm pretty sure that the C's also stated, in a later/recent transcript, that such possibilities, perspectives, and polarities are also veiled in fifth density, due to pertinent reasons? I don't exactly remember where that particular detail was given though.

Of course, I seem to be reading that this line of questioning goes back a far bit, and I've picked out two sessions where these fifth density concerns are stated quite bluntly.

From Session August 28th, 1999:

Q: So, they want to do it because it feels good?

A: Want is an STS concept.

Q: So, you seem to be suggesting that the real trick is to just become non-attached to anything and anybody, do nothing, and just dissolve into nothing? No thought, no want, no do, no be, no anything!

A: If you are STS, that does not fit, but, if you did exactly that, you would reincarnate in an STO realm, where such energy does fit.

Q: But, if you have become nothing, how do you reincarnate? And, when you say 'reincarnate,' that implies being in a body!

A: You do not become nothingness.

Q: But, being incarnated means being in a body?

A: No.

Q: You mean moving into a realm that does not necessarily mean being in a body?

A: Close. But 4th density is partially physical. Does not consume nor possess.

Q: (A) This is contradictory to what we are doing. (L) Why write a book or do anything? There is no point. We should just sit around, do nothing but contemplate our navels and do nothing. (F) Why do you say that? (L) Because doing anything at all constitutes wanting, needing, possessing, having, and so on. (F) Of course, because this is an STS realm. (L) So, therefore, we should do nothing. We should contemplate our navels and try to get out of it and to heck with everybody else! (F) I disagree. (L) Otherwise, it is contradictory. If you try to help anyone else, or do for anyone else, you are desiring to help them. Therefore, you are desiring to change something... (F) Well, sure, but this is an STS realm. (L) Anyway, I would like to know who and what this Marcia Schafer is channelling. She seems to be channelling several sources, or claims to be. Could you tell me who and what?

A: Not yet, because this issue is not yet resolved. You are confused because you seem to think you must be STO to be an STO candidate. You are STS, and you simply cannot be otherwise, until you either reincarnate or transform at realm border crossing.

And this one? Hyper-dimensional manipulation via 4d STS, that curates a never-ending STS embodied experience, that feeds back into 5d, which then influences subsequent experiential preferences, or perhaps lessons, on 3d for now? And that's not just individually, but also collectively and longitudinally. It's basically sounding like some sort of spiritual addiction, but that's just my take.

From Session July 25th, 1998:

A: Now, we have also told you that the experience of the "Native Americans" vis a vis the Europeans may be a precursor in microcosm. Also, what Earthian 3rd density does to Terran 2nd density should offer "food for thought." In other words, thou art not so special, despiteth thy perspective, eh? And we have also warned that after conversion of Earth humans to 4th density, the Orion 4th density and their allies hope to control you "there." Now put this all together and what have you? At least you should by now know that it is the soul that matters, not the body. Others have genetically, spiritually and psychically manipulated/engineered you to be bodycentric. Interesting, as despite all efforts by 4th through 6th density STO, this "veil remains unbroken."

...

...

Q: (L) Well, that is what it sounds like! You say that the only thing that really matters is our souls, our consciousness, so if we tend to our souls and our bodies check out, then obviously the answer is to a) reincarnate, or b) move to the next density and reincarnate. What other option is there?

A: How long did you expect to "live?"

Q: (L) Well, under the normal circumstance, 70 or 80 years, optimistically.

A: And is that long?

Q: (L) No, it is not. By cosmic standards it is a whiff of vapor. What are you getting at here?

A: Think about it. ? Have you had any contemporaries who transited to 5th density?

Q: (L) Yes.

A: How come? How can this be possible?

Q: (L) Because they died. The body died.

A: Why?

Q: (L) Because that is what bodies do.

A: But is it "fair?"

Q: (L) Is it fair?! I guess if that is what they choose.

A: And...

Q: (L) I don't know where you are going with this!

A: You seem to be under the impression that only "good” experiences are acceptable.

Q: (L) No, I am not under the impression that only good experiences are acceptable, but I AM in a little bit of a quandary here because, here we are talking to you guys who are supposed to be 'us' in the future. Here we are in this period of time on this planet, where things are in a very strange state. There is some kind of huge transition going on, and I am just wondering what is the whole point. Why are we talking to you? What's the point?

A: It is the lesson. Do you not understand still? The lesson, the lessons, that is all there is. They are all immeasurably valuable.

Q: (L) Okay, we are having these lessons. You have told us what is going on. We see it going on around us. I am convinced that what you have said is so from a LOT of other circumstantial evidence as well as the research of others who have come to the same conclusion and, DAMN IT, IT'S UGLY! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?! IT'S UGLY!

A: That is your perspective.

I get that working through one's life experiences and going through some form of afterlife exasperation is one thing, but if souls are only keen/aware on a 3rd density incarnation, then I could definitely imagine that the overall situation is not depressing or distressing, but laconically pithy. A physically nourishing life can be easily had here. But a spiritually nourishing life? The great mystery! And yes, frameworks to say ... frame works of spiritual lessons finally learned, so that we don't have to be forgetful again?

Thanks for the session, Everyone.

 

[JEEP]

(Nienna) What was the “bird" above the sun pictured on May 24th by the LASCO telescope?

A: Expulsion of mass from sun's core due to temporary opening of channel.

Q: (L) Would that have anything to do with any of the current cosmic energies?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Should we expect other odd behaviors or phenomena in relation to the sun?

A: Definitely.

Occurred yesterday (Wednesday):

Massive 250,000-mile-long 'canyon of fire' erupts on the sun triggering fears of solar chaos

A massive explosion of solar plasma erupted from the sun on Wednesday, and scientists say this may be just the beginning.

NASA satellites caught the dramatic moment when a blazing arc of superheated material burst from the Sun's northeastern edge, large enough to stretch across 30 Earths.

The violent blast carved out a 250,000-mile-long 'canyon of fire', with walls of glowing plasma rising more than 12,000 miles high, roughly the height of Earth's diameter.

The eruption was caused by a solar filament, a thick ribbon of solar material, which snapped and collapsed, firing off a giant cloud of particles known as a coronal mass ejection (CME).

While this CME isn't expected to hit Earth, experts are warning that the sun is becoming more active, and future eruptions could strike our planet head-on.

If one does, it could unleash a geomagnetic storm, a powerful solar disturbance that has the potential to knock out power grids, satellites, and GPS systems.

The warning comes as solar activity ramps up during its current cycle, increasing the risk of Earth being caught in the path of a direct hit.
[...]

NASA says the blast was so intense it twisted and tore the sun's magnetic field, leaving behind a glowing trench of charged particles where the explosion ripped through.

Results of a May 2024 exercise cited along with a warning for a May 2025 solar event:

Urgent warning over solar storm poised to cause global blackouts and travel chaos: 'We're not prepared'

Scientists have warned that humanity is not prepared for extreme space weather as a solar storm is predicted to smash into Earth this week.

They conducted a 'solar storm emergency drill', simulating what would happen if a major geomagnetic storm hit Earth.

Results showed power grids failed, blackouts were triggered and communication broke down across the US.

The exercise ran four simulations of geomagnetic storms of different severities, which is is a temporary disturbance of Earth's magnetic field caused by a massive eruption of charged plasma from the sun's outermost layer.

One scenario included a 'solar superstorm', strong enough cause an 'internet apocalypse,' resulting in power grid disruptions across the entire US with the eastern seaboard experiencing blackouts, which lasted for weeks.

Not only were power grids impacted, but railways and pipelines were also knocked offline, causing mass disruptions of travel and dramatic price increases of gas.
[...]
The imminent solar storm is the result of a powerful X-class flare, which could trigger the event simulated in the exercise.

These are the most powerful solar flares, and they often coincide with coronal mass ejections (CMEs), which are large eruptions of plasma and magnetic fields.

The sun has unleashed powerful streams of energized particles several times in the past few days with the most recent on May 19.

NASA warned that more is to come, saying the bursts could continue to impact 'radio communications, electric power grids, navigation signals, and pose risks to spacecraft and astronauts'.
[...]
The current technology could only detect a CME about 30 minutes before it reaches Earth, when the magnetic orientation becomes clear, which makes preparation impossible.
[...]
Coincidentally, the exercise was conducted at the same time the Gannon Storm, Earth's most powerful solar storm in two decades, hit on May 10, 2024.

(Windmill Knight) What was the cause of the 28th of April blackout that affected mostly Spain and Portugal?

A: Partly sabotage of unstable system. Now is not a good time in Earth's history and trajectory to become so dependent on either electrical or solar energy.

Q: (L) Why is that?

A: The systems are likely to be "fried".

Looks like "frying" is absolutely in our future.

 

[Ruth]

I dont think we have ever lived in a Patriarchy and never will.

Patriarchy would mean a peasant man has power over an elite woman, which simply has never been the case. Our hierarchial nature is rooted in the STS mind, and thus our societies manifest as hierarchial structures. A small group of elites have power concentrated to them and enslave the rest.. this has pretty much been the blueprint for every society.. I would even think that this kind of hierarchial structure was prominent before the lizards started directly influencing us.

Are you confusing patriarchy with hierachy? One seems to exist as a foundation for how this world works - STS (i.e. hierachy). And I think the other maybe simply a way for it to manifest. That would mean patriarchy and even matriarchy are nothing but tools to manifest a hierachy. There must be others too... Oligarchy? Plutocracy? Could be heaps more. Maybe even racism or religious(isms) of some sort?

 

[Spur]

This might be the X thread you're talking about:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1925533587773808716

I can summarize the gist of it, a thread about UAPs and history with various interviews from whistleblowers and researchers, but there's so much really good stuff in it that it's much better to go through the whole thing than have someone summarize it. It's easy to create a throwaway Proton Mail or yahoo email and if you never like, share, retweet, or post anything there's zero risk of negative consequences.

Edit: Added Proton Mail as throwaway email option as they have a free tier that you can sign up for without giving them your number and they have a very good privacy-oriented track record.

A Jay, thanks very much for your reply to my post. I found it most informative and in alignment with many other sources that I have researched. In particular, Clif High's comments on many of his posts on his forum.

Again, thanks for your reply.

Terry

 

[cbi]

From several books I have read on the Afterlife, it has been noted that a lot of people who cross over need rest to recover from traumas suffered before they died. Also, so are very confused about the afterlife or don't believe in it at all so they need time to recover from the transition.

Robert Monroe and Kyle Griffith present a different picture. Indeed, the former identifies two “ætheric” Rings (or «Locales») surrounding the space between the Earth and the Moon, with distinct “bands” or “foci.” These bands were more chaotic, being closer to Earth, and, yes, were populated by the dead with traits detrimental to survival (such as attaching themselves to a living person) and with belief systems that kept them waiting for a messiah to “save” them; from Journeys Out of the Body (1971):

• Focus 23 is the temporary zone for those who have a traumatic departure from the physical plane, through suicide or sudden or unexpected death. The entities exhibit psychotic or near-insane traits, driven by emotions; they also exhibit a high sexual charge/discharge. This Focus Zone would be found on the shores of Locale II (the Second Band of Fourth Density), inhabited by entities, where “thought is action.”
• Focus 24 is the zone whose nature begins to become completely malleable, a product of one's belief system; here, you effectively “create your own unreality.” The resident entities exhibit aberrant behavior patterns that distance them from realizing crucial aspects of the reality they inhabit and keep them stuck and unable to advance to more advanced realities. Focus 24 extends to Focus 26 and would be the beginning of the sub-rings of Belief System-Based Realities.

Meanwhile, the second Ring was inhabited by more cunning beings who “invited,” or more accurately, “extorted,” recently confused souls to join their hierarchy. Griffith, in his book, identifies two of these groups: the Invisible College and the bands of Theocrats.

As to things seeming to be the same as they were in 3D once they have transitioned, it is the same reason: what they have believed before death. While they are in the "Summerland" as it has been called, they start to find out things and come to the realization that there is more than that "Summerland" and begin to start listening and learning from those who know the truth; and as their awareness grows, they leave "Summerland" to venture out into what comes next for them. It's about awareness and learning lessons just like it is here in 3D.

Sure enough «Summerland» sounds very close to Tolkien's tale Leaf by Niggle, when he is released from the Purgatory state and goes into a train to conclude his «Paint.»

In his Concerning the Face Which Appears in the Orb of the Moon, the mystic Plutarch (46 - 120 C.E.) is told that:

To that limit comes no man that is bad or impure, but the good after death are conveyed thither, and pass a most easy life, not, however, a life blessed or divine until the second death.

The second death is the eventual dissolution of the etheric & astral bodies after physical death. Bad or impure souls don’t make it to the Moon, i.e. to the furthest boundary of the Earth’s shadow. But those who are sufficiently good and pure (STO candidates?), do make it to the Moon sphere where they have an easy life as astral beings. This life, however, isn’t blessed or divine since they still have their astral bodies, thus their Earthly personalities. In order to transcend it, it is said that only after they drop these astral bodies, the “Second Death,” do such beings pass beyond the Lunar astral influence into the spiritual Cosmic realms as divine beings made purely of mind/spirit.

IMHO, this “Second Death” corresponds to when Niggle prepares to cross the Mountains, leaving his «Paint» in hands of Parrish and his wife to improve it.

 

[axj]

Robert Monroe and Kyle Griffith present a different picture.

I think what Monroe reported about the 'afterlife' from his astral travels is actually pretty much exactly the same picture.

That there are lower vibrating (hellish) and higher vibrating ("Summerland") astral bands or rings around the Earth and that people naturally go to the place that matches their FRV and beliefs the most.

According to him, the 'middle bands' consist of people with similar religious beliefs collectively experiencing the afterlife, eg. Christian heaven, Hindu heaven, etc. And that even those who do not believe in reincarnation are reincarnated again.

 

[cbi]

I think what Monroe reported about the 'afterlife' from his astral travels is actually pretty much exactly the same picture.

Precisely... Matrix Vol. IV (or V, if memory serves me right) presents Robert Monroe under the umbrella of Kyle Griffith's War in Heaven.

I think Plutarch and Tolkien's tale Leaf by Niggle add context about the “second death.” I like to recommend Hilarion/Cooke's Dark Robes, Dark Brother book which further enhances this perspective.