Session 29 July 2023
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dmnlksm
Jedi
The caves are fascinating. Maybe it creates an energy field. It seems likely that the stones and the minerals under the cave have a different effect.
In Islam, it is said that Muhammad retreated into a cave before receiving the verses of the Koran, where he received prophetic dreams. In fact, if I am not mistaken, it is said that it was in this cave that the Koran began to be revealed.
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If it is war between celts (aka kantekanians) and Paranthas, it is 50,000 years ago. You may also want to see this post.
Session 25 February 2023
This was an Extremely Good Session, it reminds me of the sessions from way back in the early days of the sessions from 94. Although I didn't know about The C's until 2010, 1994 was an Extremely Pivotal year for Moi.cassiopaea.org
I think war between Celts (aka kantekanians) and Paranthas is NOT related to one of 3 cataclysm that destroyed Paranthas around approx. 12,000 years ago. C's also mentioned that Atlantis is like modern day NATO. Not all NATO countries are at the same location next to each other. i.e. there are non NATO block nations (( communist, Non Aligned countries etc.) around the world during that period.
1994-11-02
I agree with you. That is why I said the war must have taken place before the Paranthas were wiped out in one of the 3 cataclysms that struck Atlantis, but thank you for reminding me that it took place 50,000 years ago. A lot seemed to be happening around that period. Re-reading the 25th February session, it seems that some time after that war, Rama, an Indian High Priest influenced by the Confederation (what Confederation?), who later became deified as an Hindu god, was involved in a war against the Lizard beings.
The C's also said in that session that the Atlanteans started building pyramids on Mars about 50k years ago. If there was a nuclear war on Mars as Dr John Brandenburg believes (see my earlier post), then the fact that the Celts/Kantekkians had used nuclear weapons against the Paranthas suggests that they may have done so against the Atlanteans on Mars too in what may have been a wider, ongoing conflict for supremacy. Perhaps someone could ask the C's in a future session whether there was a nuclear war on Mars and, if so, was it connected in any way with the war against the Paranthas in India.
I have recently watched the new film on Robert Oppenheimer, the father of the atomic bomb. It's an interesting and thought provoking movie if you haven't seen it. Oppenheimer was an avid student of the Vedic texts and was self-taught in reading Sanskrit. That is why when he saw the explosion of the first (in modern times!) atomic bomb during a test in Nevada in 1945, he made his famous remark about "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds", which was a quote attributed to Vishnu from a verse in the Bhagavad Gita. I wonder if Oppenheimer's reading of the Vedic texts made him aware of these earlier nuclear wars and that is why he quoted that passage from the Bhagavad Gita? He may have known full well that this was not the first time such a device had been exploded here on Earth.
I recall reading a parody by the C's on that quote when they said to Ark words to the effect "I have become the creator of worlds", presumably in relation to his search for the Unified Field Theorem. Perhaps somebody can track the quote down.
The C's also said in that session that the Atlanteans started building pyramids on Mars about 50k years ago. If there was a nuclear war on Mars as Dr John Brandenburg believes (see my earlier post), then the fact that the Celts/Kantekkians had used nuclear weapons against the Paranthas suggests that they may have done so against the Atlanteans on Mars too in what may have been a wider, ongoing conflict for supremacy. Perhaps someone could ask the C's in a future session whether there was a nuclear war on Mars and, if so, was it connected in any way with the war against the Paranthas in India.
I have recently watched the new film on Robert Oppenheimer, the father of the atomic bomb. It's an interesting and thought provoking movie if you haven't seen it. Oppenheimer was an avid student of the Vedic texts and was self-taught in reading Sanskrit. That is why when he saw the explosion of the first (in modern times!) atomic bomb during a test in Nevada in 1945, he made his famous remark about "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds", which was a quote attributed to Vishnu from a verse in the Bhagavad Gita. I wonder if Oppenheimer's reading of the Vedic texts made him aware of these earlier nuclear wars and that is why he quoted that passage from the Bhagavad Gita? He may have known full well that this was not the first time such a device had been exploded here on Earth.
I recall reading a parody by the C's on that quote when they said to Ark words to the effect "I have become the creator of worlds", presumably in relation to his search for the Unified Field Theorem. Perhaps somebody can track the quote down.
Further to my previous reply, on the subject you mentioned of being abducted from 3rd density and being taken to 4th density, people's awareness of this may vary greatly according to the C's response here:
Q: (Adobe) Is it possible for a 3D STO candidate to find themselves in 4D and be little aware of it or not aware of it at all?
A: Yes Yes Yes
Two-tents
The Force is Strong With This One
Here's the quote:
Q: What was the influence that caused our little “event” of the past few days?
A: S waves.
Q: What is an S wave?
A: Look it up.
Q: Who was being subjected to the S waves?
A: Ark.
Q: Was this having an effect because of the events in Dijon?
A: Semi.
Q: Well, what other factor is involved?
A: Arkadiusz is strong-willed. - Must be to be seeker of worlds. To paraphrase: “I am become ONE ... Creator of worlds.” - And, on that contemplative note, good night.
I think it has to do with the concept of "sub-density" explained by Ra.
This could also explain why, even in 3D, we can have the impression of living in another reality compared to people around us.
mantle
Jedi
" We hide the truth right under your nose. That's so you cannot see it . Effort is required. Nothing is for free. Our wealth is family wealth passed down over thousands of generations and thousands of added years. We are invisible to you but not to ourselves. We are born to it. When our rule in our Rome gave up the ghost, the strongest of our best breed of oxen pulled our carts laden with gold towards the swamps on which we built Venice . The Doges were also our choices.
Like the spiritual guides that accompany every soul born in this laboratory of souls, through out their entire sojourn here , it is the same for us. We are also accompanied but no one is bereft of our influence. Both kinds are required. Ours is not an earthly lineage and we have come here to help the rest of you play our game. We own the board.
Your part is to play our " reality "in this our game through the freedom of your " choice ". That is if you own your free will. If you can choose yes or no. One is easy to play where your choice is kidnapped by us. It rests on your habit. We make it for you. You assent. The other demands that you swim against the tide. A constant effort is required and we will set the obstacles on your way. It is why we are here. To provide the fear. To see if you can provide your love. The Earth is indeed ripe for harvest. The lukewarm will proceed to another divine sowing. The Divine Mind is He who sows. The few will graduate to the Fourth density Positive and very very few to the Negative Density. We separate the wheat from the chaff. We are conscious. Are you awake ? Do you have choice ?
An order, our new order, out of chaos begins and we have all the exits covered. We warned you , even gave you openly our plans. We showed you our plans for those who have eyes to see. You were too busy. This was also part of our plan. Yes. We are destroying your reality and will introduce you to another. Our end justifies our means. We are the owners of the means, and the end that we look forward to justifies. This is your trial. We shall see what you believe in . We represent one hundred per cent Service to Self. What you would call a living hell and we will prove our point. We can turn everything on its head and you will let us do it because you are a strategic liability for what is best for the heath of your soul.
That this time of harvest would come, we warned about at the very beginning of The Age when we set it up. Our agenturs through all the measures, twisted those surroundings , made them malleable to other understandings, falsified most of them. Still...the core was left untouched, like black opal shining in the darkness. Our hope was for the darkness to obscure it and so it was. Slowly you were made to forget it. To stop believing in it. To let it go. "
Veritas liberavit vos [ The truth will set you free]. Here I am trying to walk in the waters of life without sinking so that it is not lost. Ie. done mechanically , and I am sure that you also are trying to do the same . Mechanically is how the material world goes on its way. You cannot change it. Only yourself. So I have little to defend and nothing to aspire to except to be of service to others and I do not aspire to anything higher than to forgive. But never to forget. Critters in caves have been around since forever and those who wrote the above are also responsible for them.
Like the spiritual guides that accompany every soul born in this laboratory of souls, through out their entire sojourn here , it is the same for us. We are also accompanied but no one is bereft of our influence. Both kinds are required. Ours is not an earthly lineage and we have come here to help the rest of you play our game. We own the board.
Your part is to play our " reality "in this our game through the freedom of your " choice ". That is if you own your free will. If you can choose yes or no. One is easy to play where your choice is kidnapped by us. It rests on your habit. We make it for you. You assent. The other demands that you swim against the tide. A constant effort is required and we will set the obstacles on your way. It is why we are here. To provide the fear. To see if you can provide your love. The Earth is indeed ripe for harvest. The lukewarm will proceed to another divine sowing. The Divine Mind is He who sows. The few will graduate to the Fourth density Positive and very very few to the Negative Density. We separate the wheat from the chaff. We are conscious. Are you awake ? Do you have choice ?
An order, our new order, out of chaos begins and we have all the exits covered. We warned you , even gave you openly our plans. We showed you our plans for those who have eyes to see. You were too busy. This was also part of our plan. Yes. We are destroying your reality and will introduce you to another. Our end justifies our means. We are the owners of the means, and the end that we look forward to justifies. This is your trial. We shall see what you believe in . We represent one hundred per cent Service to Self. What you would call a living hell and we will prove our point. We can turn everything on its head and you will let us do it because you are a strategic liability for what is best for the heath of your soul.
That this time of harvest would come, we warned about at the very beginning of The Age when we set it up. Our agenturs through all the measures, twisted those surroundings , made them malleable to other understandings, falsified most of them. Still...the core was left untouched, like black opal shining in the darkness. Our hope was for the darkness to obscure it and so it was. Slowly you were made to forget it. To stop believing in it. To let it go. "
Veritas liberavit vos [ The truth will set you free]. Here I am trying to walk in the waters of life without sinking so that it is not lost. Ie. done mechanically , and I am sure that you also are trying to do the same . Mechanically is how the material world goes on its way. You cannot change it. Only yourself. So I have little to defend and nothing to aspire to except to be of service to others and I do not aspire to anything higher than to forgive. But never to forget. Critters in caves have been around since forever and those who wrote the above are also responsible for them.
syldan
Dagobah Resident
Oups! Thumbs up!
Yes, that's the one. What an extraordinary statement when you compare it with Oppenheimer's quote. Which session did this come from and did Forum members discuss the statement?
I assume the C's reference to "seeker of worlds" refers in some way to Ark's research into the Unified Field Theory, which opens up so many possibilities including faster than light space travel. Does this suggest that if Ark is successful, one day humans will use this technology to reach out to the stars and create new worlds (terraforming planets etc) fulfilling what the C's said here:
A: Here comes a shocker for you... one day, in 4th density, it will be your descendants mission to carry on the tradition and assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have the adequate knowledge!!!
A: Here comes a shocker for you... one day, in 4th density, it will be your descendants mission to carry on the tradition and assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have the adequate knowledge!!!
Don't worry, you can change it if you click on the reaction button again. In the end, it doesn't really matter.
Here is another Ra segment that I forgot to include:
This is how I understand it:
BHelmet
The Living Force
Hm, it seems a nerve was touched, there. I did not say both can’t be done. Or shouldn’t be done. I do periodically say this for the sake of perspective. There is a ton of speculative investigation that goes on regarding various topics. I engage in many of those areas too. Fine. Great! But, occasionally it feels to me like the pendulum needs a push in the other direction.
It’s a dirty job, but somebody has to do it. (Comedy)
A person can prepare for 4D without answering every mystery of the universe past/present and future. Focusing too much on distracting 3D machinations can actually get in the way of inner work, IMO. We can become mesmerized by the soap opera; the proverbial train wreck we are on. There needs to be balance, IMO. We need to remember, or learn how to more effectively access the knowledge and answers already within us as well as some lessons that are counter-intuitive to our programmed machine which tends to be looking for answers and reasons. Yes, knowledge can and should be searched for, gleaned and extrapolated from the stories and speculation on the days of yore and the events in the now and potential future. Snapping out of the hypnosis can require challenging processes of many types, including challenging our own assumptions and looking at our deeper motivations.
The hard fact is that at some point in "time" none of us will be "here". The present circumstances will be like a vague dream or we won't remember a damn thing of it. I think it is highly likely we have already been through all this before, but now, what do we now remember of it? What good did the gathering of knowledge in the past do if we can't access it now since here we are in a familiar mess? I never liked Mouravieff's projector analogy but I have come to face it and accept it as a real possibility. Maybe it is karmic reincarnation or whatever you want to call it. Perhaps we will remember what we re going through now for a time while we go over the post game interview and then it will be time for another game, (or not). If we have learned the lessons, the game will be in a different ballpark with different rules. It is easy enough to say that these alternate perspectives don't matter because we are here now and this current life is what we have and what matters. To each his own on how much weighting is given to each perspective.
I also don't mean to arrogantly suggest I am immune from this. How many things am I involved in that devour my attention, focus and energy which diverts me from some path I am trying to stay on? Plenty! Am I suggesting this is what I am saying about you? No. Perhaps you hear it that way.
As far as repeating myself, does not life repeat itself? History? Do you not repeat yourself? If a long time goes by and the esoteric threads on the inner nature of the work fade into the background, then I sometimes feel the need to say something. For me, to say nothing would be tantamount to saying "What's the point in bothering to say anything?" As it is, what I do say can stir up the pot and attract some flak. This is one of the conundrums of life. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
All the endeavors to learn and apply knowledge are worthwhile. I certainly don’t intend to suggest people are absolutely wasting their time with their efforts. Nobody is, really.
Rhetorical question: Would it serve you better if I just came out with some snarky, ill-considered bazooka blast gut punch? Maybe. I am trying to take the high road instead.
You have to consider the possibility that what appears to you to be my reasoning is not actually what it is.
Last bit to sum up - it is necessary to confront what we don't want to confront in order to proceed beyond the things that stop us and keep us stuck in the same place. The Vader Syndrome, if you will. IF we can stand in the presence of the shadow; and consider it a possibility that all our efforts are futile and hopeless, then perhaps we have a chance at achieving the desired end: to be int that number when the saints go marching in.
I understood Confederation as good guys or STO or white shirts(from bringers of the dawn)
2-november-1994
I think it is a possibility, but there is no way to verify based on our means. Brandenburg's hypothesis is based is on Xenon 129 that is created by fission bombs that creates fast moving neutrons.
Did Atlanteans experiment on Mars (as they have space capabilities) just like modern nations does them on isolated islands in pacific? Hard to say it is experiment or War between the factions. Mars is a natural candidate given that they can't do it on Mercury, Venus is not yet planet at that time and other planets are too close or too far or too different to bring any meaningful results.
But C's also mentioned that Big foot inhabit the island. But date is not clear. If nuclear left overs hurts them, 4D STS wouldn't have allowed those things to happen. So We don't know. Probably it is a question for C's.
John Brandenburg ( based on the video in your post) puts the date back to 250 - 500 millions years ago, before dinosaurs destruction. He thinks meteors doesn't produce those type of things.
There was lot of controversy over this statement represented in the Oppenheimer movie. If you read the posts in this thread, none of this is as "sacred" as promoted. Gita was a political text created around 500 AD ( around the same time Christianity/Islam )with few specific aims - counter Buddhism, revive Brahmanism by adding the cometary imagery as gods, making cometary plasma human shape (Purusha sukta) as a god and most of these texts are written in Sanskrit.
Comets projected as intelligent/all knowing/all supervising Gods who needs constant appeasement doing the destruction of the worlds does makes sense. This theme is nothing specific to Hinduism and it is available in other religions Christianity swallowed (Norse, Irish and so on).
Probably.
I am not sure this meant to be parody or some thing else. Given that human societies are so often gets extinguished (which, main stream religion or science can't acknowledge), who knows what action creates what type of non linear reaction that creates new worlds.
Yeah, I remember when I first started learning about the unseen spiritual control of humanity, I started to think of the high rises in my home city as human salmon farms.
And on that note, it seems there has been a new step in hybridization, not with humans and grays, but humans and pigs:
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All for better organ transplants, of course. Nothing to see here.
