Session 30 August 2014
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tatanka
The Force is Strong With This One
The thing is you do not want to have cold feet on a permanent basis. The cold water is an hydrotherapy, not a permanent state of being
As a matter of fact one cannot sleep with cold feet. So the wool sucks just regulate the situation faster to normal and therefore, sleep.
Try it and you will see it for yourself.
As a matter of fact one cannot sleep with cold feet. So the wool sucks just regulate the situation faster to normal and therefore, sleep.
Try it and you will see it for yourself.
mum-didi
The Force is Strong With This One
God ! I am not willing to take cold showers. This is torture as I am usually always cold.
Will wait till it arrives in my city ;)
Between us, I am not afraid about Ebola, I don't know why. It could be thoughtlessness or confidence in the future (the wave will arrive before)...
Thank you Laura for making that session even if you needed some rest. Hope you feel better :)
Will wait till it arrives in my city ;)
Between us, I am not afraid about Ebola, I don't know why. It could be thoughtlessness or confidence in the future (the wave will arrive before)...
Thank you Laura for making that session even if you needed some rest. Hope you feel better :)
RGG
Jedi Master
I've come to this cold shower info late due to traveling the past months with my family but this whole cold shower conversation reminds me of something I learned as a child playing outside in the snow at minus -20 or even colder during winters in Canada. Of course I would be properly outfitted in boots and snow pants etc, but that kind of cold would chill a 40 pound 9 year old to the bone quickly even with all of the gear and layers. I knew from experience however, that if I suffered through the freezing cold feet and shivering for about 20 min, my metabolism would soon kick in to high gear and I would be completely warm and comfortable to keep playing so I wouldn't have to go in. I remember Training myself to just wait for that effect. I wonder if it's the same kind of mechanism at work???
For somebody who suffered from cold feet and hands their whole adult life even while living in Singapore, the idea of cold showers sounds like torture! Maybe it will be the cure? I'm willing to give it a try and hears hoping all of those swims this summer in BC lakes have been a warm-up;)
For somebody who suffered from cold feet and hands their whole adult life even while living in Singapore, the idea of cold showers sounds like torture! Maybe it will be the cure? I'm willing to give it a try and hears hoping all of those swims this summer in BC lakes have been a warm-up;)
I've started doing cold showers daily. Starting with semi-cold and gradually build up to the max.
It's an interesting experiment, and a little voluntary suffering can't hurt, especially if it can
help against ebola. For motivation I just recall those horrible articles about ebola found on sott.
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,34616.msg488746.html#msg488746
So this whole cold protocol could be also turning on DNA?
It's an interesting experiment, and a little voluntary suffering can't hurt, especially if it can
help against ebola. For motivation I just recall those horrible articles about ebola found on sott.
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,34616.msg488746.html#msg488746
So this whole cold protocol could be also turning on DNA?
Palinurus said:
Well, watching THAT just makes it look totally feasible to swim in iced water. Except, I could really relate to the little girl!
There's also this one that Pashalis posted a long time ago on the Cryogenic Chamber Therapy thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRsNh0eB-Io&feature=youtu.be
It's about the famous "Ice Man", Win Hof, and how he fought against an endotoxin and reduced anti-inflammatory cells. It is not clear whether he achieved that through meditation or because of his optimal healthy due to cold, or both. But it's interesting!!
Anthony said:
Definitely possible. And not just because of the suffering part, but also because it activates your brown fat, and helps regenerate tissus, etc. Check out the Cryogenic Therapy thread for more details.
I've been doing 4 days now cold showers. I put alarm for 15minutes and start gradually lowering water temperature. I haven't measured that water temperature but i stop lowering it when i meet the edge of my cold tolerance and adjust it from there. I've noticed that the thought of doing cold showers is much scarier and harder than actually doing it. When you go to the shower and find your limit, it's not that awful. Actually, after you've finished the 10-15min (which is not long time), you feel refreshed and much more energized! 
zoidbergh77
The Force is Strong With This One
Seppo Ilmarinen said:I've been doing 4 days now cold showers. I put alarm for 15minutes and start gradually lowering water temperature. I haven't measured that water temperature but i stop lowering it when i meet the edge of my cold tolerance and adjust it from there. I've noticed that the thought of doing cold showers is much scarier and harder than actually doing it. When you go to the shower and find your limit, it's not that awful. Actually, after you've finished the 10-15min (which is not long time), you feel refreshed and much more energized!
That´s exactly how I did it, and it had that same effect. I came home from work the last few days, tired and a little grumpy, but these cold showers really work wonders for me. To think I never did this in 37 years... And I also feel it´s a nice little excercise to go against the "denying principle", just forcing myself, especially the last few minutes, to endure the cold a little longer.
The cold shower/adaption is a really interesting thing I've to say. Just at the end of last week (before the session was made), I was outside during lunchtime at my work and shivered like hell, because it was only about 15 °C outside while I was smoking. Then I thought to myself "Hell! I've to start the cold shower thing again! It can not be, that I'm shivering like that already at this temperatures. I've to do something. Winter is coming!"
Thing is, I've accustomed myself to hot baths and an oven in my room so much, that I got addicted to it and use it every time I felt cold, thus I got very cold sensitive again.
So this session came really at the exact right time for me, to give me the curage and the needed kick in the ass to finally start it again.
So now is the third day I'm doing it again and it sounds crazy, but the longer I stay in the absolute cold water (which is around 18-19 °C here at the moment) the more I can enjoy it! Today I succeeded to stay in the absolute cold shower for 10 minutes (actually I could have done it longer) and made sure that my head and especially face was hit too (which is the hardest part, but you adapt quite fast). It is real good test on will power every day and I think Gurdjieff and the C's are spot on, that this has many benefits not only physically but most importantly mentally.
The water here I think gets well under 10 °C during the winter, so I will adjust accordingly :)
I also bought that thermometer thing for the shower (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009ETBPFC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
Thanks for bringing that up!
Thing is, I've accustomed myself to hot baths and an oven in my room so much, that I got addicted to it and use it every time I felt cold, thus I got very cold sensitive again.
So this session came really at the exact right time for me, to give me the curage and the needed kick in the ass to finally start it again.
So now is the third day I'm doing it again and it sounds crazy, but the longer I stay in the absolute cold water (which is around 18-19 °C here at the moment) the more I can enjoy it! Today I succeeded to stay in the absolute cold shower for 10 minutes (actually I could have done it longer) and made sure that my head and especially face was hit too (which is the hardest part, but you adapt quite fast). It is real good test on will power every day and I think Gurdjieff and the C's are spot on, that this has many benefits not only physically but most importantly mentally.
The water here I think gets well under 10 °C during the winter, so I will adjust accordingly :)
I also bought that thermometer thing for the shower (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009ETBPFC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
Thanks for bringing that up!
A shower of 15 minutes it is too much. Here in Spain we pay for the water, it is not free. So 15 minutes of water is impossible. What is the minimum I can shower? Two days now of cold shower, I love this. I have to say that it is cold water but I really don't know the exact temperature. But I was loving very hot showers. And now the contrast is very interesting, just cold water on me is very invigorating, I feel my body much more, my muscles, my bones under cold water. It is like a new way to feel the skin, the blood... And I feel relax after the shower. I think it is a fantastic idea this cold protocol. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences concerning this subject. And thanks to the C's. :)
loreta said:
I would recommend buying a water saving shower head. Do a google or amazon search, there's a bunch of products out there. It can dramatically cut water usage so you can stay in the shower for 15 minutes and use about as much water as previously you used in 5 minutes, for example.
freesurfer
Jedi
Thank you for share this session, very useful again.
It's nice to have so much session this last times.
I have two mountains clean rivers just 50 and 100 meter down of our house, one colder and stronger than the other one.
A lot of my neighbours take a daily bath on the river every days after job, maybe one more reason about long life here around.
So, they are right.
I think the river bath is a good deal if possible, isn't?
The cold one is like a torrent, with big stones, witch make small waterfalls, in other words massages.
Normaly I use a big stone to breathe in the "silence", meditate, and look the water, it indeed relax me.. so next step, go down the rock into the water.
The last time I take a bath in this river, was more up , 2 weeks ago, after 1,5 hour trekking to the big waterfall, but when I go in the water my calfs became so hard that I can spend more of 30 seconds under the waterfall. Maybe this river is to cold, but have supposedly a lot of good things as colloidal gold and silver, I will take a look with a thermometer, and beguine with the other one, where plays always my children.
Just a little story to share , last wednesday morning, I found one of my (3) dogs poisoned
(but not dead) down below, between the rivers, to his leash aside my car , where we rent a house for workshop and other things ..
when I take ihm off-leash, he trembled uncontrollably, was afraid, but he run right to the union of the rivers, into the water and stay there, the butt in the water showing me. I call my wife, tell her and let ihm there and drive quickly to the veterinary, when I was back (15 min)with the injections he was lying beside the river, He was still afraid, suspicious, but been able to take ihm and give ihm his two first shoot. After 4 days and 5 schoots, Lobo is ok :)
Well, thank you to all of you, a lot of precious info here again.
It's nice to have so much session this last times.
I have two mountains clean rivers just 50 and 100 meter down of our house, one colder and stronger than the other one.
A lot of my neighbours take a daily bath on the river every days after job, maybe one more reason about long life here around.
So, they are right.
I think the river bath is a good deal if possible, isn't?
The cold one is like a torrent, with big stones, witch make small waterfalls, in other words massages.
Normaly I use a big stone to breathe in the "silence", meditate, and look the water, it indeed relax me.. so next step, go down the rock into the water.
The last time I take a bath in this river, was more up , 2 weeks ago, after 1,5 hour trekking to the big waterfall, but when I go in the water my calfs became so hard that I can spend more of 30 seconds under the waterfall. Maybe this river is to cold, but have supposedly a lot of good things as colloidal gold and silver, I will take a look with a thermometer, and beguine with the other one, where plays always my children.
Just a little story to share , last wednesday morning, I found one of my (3) dogs poisoned
(but not dead) down below, between the rivers, to his leash aside my car , where we rent a house for workshop and other things .. when I take ihm off-leash, he trembled uncontrollably, was afraid, but he run right to the union of the rivers, into the water and stay there, the butt in the water showing me. I call my wife, tell her and let ihm there and drive quickly to the veterinary, when I was back (15 min)with the injections he was lying beside the river, He was still afraid, suspicious, but been able to take ihm and give ihm his two first shoot. After 4 days and 5 schoots, Lobo is ok :)
Well, thank you to all of you, a lot of precious info here again.
