Session 6 July 2024

Now you’ve asked the question, and opened that “can of worms”!
My short answer, Ra conformed to the free will of The channels.
Don and Carla were against any “negative info”, and so, to at least get some info into our realm, passing through the frequency fence, Ra complied.
Here’s a snippet, for more back story:
[…]”Don Elkins took interest in channeling in 1961, after an acquaintance gave him a book with the channeled messages of a Detroit contactee group led by Walt Rogers.[note 2] Experimenting together with some of his students, and others including Carla L. Rueckert whom he met that way, they eventually got similar 'love and light'-focused channeling going. In 1970, Elkins and Rueckert formed L/L Research – 'love/light', in their own channeled New Age terms – concerned with their overall project, publishing their books,[3] and outliving both of them. Their 1980s Ra channeling was significantly more original than the rest of their channeled works before, during, and afterwards.”

From The site: Ra Material

Session 8 July 1995​



Q: (L) Well, this article I was reading said that different people used several techniques where they think it has helped them to halt or avoid abduction by "aliens." One is to generate an "internal" sound, a high-pitched "thought hum," and another is to invoke angelic spirits such as the Archangel Michael, and another is to "Just Say No," and these people think they have avoided being abducted thereby. Are any of these usable techniques?

A: Potpourri.

Q: (T) Sweet smelling dried flowers are potpourri.

A: Sage, salt, ooohm, any other rituals you like?

Q: (L) In other words, nothing works? (T) It's not going to stop them! I keep a heavy shield around the house and all that stuff and they still get through!

A: How about the hula hoop dance with green peppers stuck up your nose! [Hilarious laughter]

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Full spectrum knowledge, the truth of things without any bias.
 
Thank you for this information. It is unfortunate that Don took his own life because of the attacks he was subjected to. Probably more proof that rituals feed STS.
You’re welcome, and yes, Don killing himself is definitely an “in your face” lesson on the dangers of denying reality, in my opinion.
The Ra material is kinda special to me, as it was some of the very first channeled information I read, this was back in the 70’s, last century.😎
The newsletters of the latest channeled material, came via snail mail, all laboriously typed out on a manual typewriter.
My friend and I would spend hours discussing the messages.
 
Given that the C's said the following only a month ago now, what is happening in my country, the United Kingdom, at the present time is quite fascinating:​

Q: (L) Does it mean that from our perspective they're going to effect, or make some nefarious plans in the direction of greater control of human beings?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Is it because there is too much resistance against the increasing control, or not enough?

A: Not enough for balance.

Q: (L) So, based on things you've said in the past, does that mean there needs to be more suffering so that more people wake up?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, swell!

[....]

A: There needs to be balance.

Q: (Joe) There needs to be balance, but they said there's not enough resistance from people, right?

(Chu) Yeah.

(Joe) And there's not enough resistance for balance. And there needs to be balance. So...

(L) They need to make more resistance.

(Joe) Well, these people aren't intending to produce more resistance. They're probably intending to create more control, but by trying to do that, they'll provoke more resistance.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So the controls may get tighter.

(Joe) And then people will rebel more.

(L) Well, swell! There went my retirement!


If Forum members are not aware, there are serious disturbances up and down the country involving mainly white working class British people. They started in the city of Leeds a few weeks ago when the authorities attempted to take the children of a Romani family into protective custody. It led to a serious riot with things getting quickly out of control. However, worse was to come days later after a young black man (the British born son of Rwandan immigrants) walked into a dance studio for young girls who were engaged in a Taylor Swift dance class and callously stabbed three of the girls to death, wounding several other participants. The crime, which took place in Southport, near Liverpool, shocked the nation but worse was to come when word spread on social media that the assailant was a young Moslem man who had entered the country as an illegal migrant on a boat from France. Although untrue, the rumour spread quickly and led to a large crowd gathering at the scene who then attacked a local mosque and the police who were trying to defend it.

I should add first that this incident was on top of other recent incidents including one at Manchester Airport where a young man of Pakistani heritage got into a fracas with police officers, which saw several police officers assaulted in the process of trying to arrest him. The media only showed at first what appeared to be a clip of a police officer stamping on the young man's head. This provoked outrage amongst the local Moslem community who marched on the police station to protest. Subsequently, the media showed the whole incident, which painted the matter in a different light since it became quite obvious that the man was a thug running amok and freely punching the police officers who were trying to restrain him, including breaking a young policewoman's nose. Before this, a British Army colonel was attacked just outside of his regimental barracks by a young black man wielding a machete, with the officer sustaining life threatening injuries. There has been a deafening silence about the motives for the attack save for a brief mention of mental health issues.

The previous Conservative government had completely failed to prevent boatloads of illegal migrants crossing the English Channel from France, leading to a sense among the population that our borders were now effectively unprotected. As a result, the Conservatives suffered their worst defeat in electoral history gifting the new Labour Party, led by Sir Keir Starmer, a massive majority in the House of Commons. Starmer immediately scrapped the previous government's plan to deport illegal migrants to Rwanda in Central Africa where their asylum claims would be processed by British officials. Instead Starmer claimed that he would smash the people trafficking gangs who run the migrant operations but failed to explain how exactly he would do this and what deterrents he would put in place. In a European heads of government meeting he hosted at Blenheim Palace the week after he became Prime Minister, he reached out to his fellow European leaders for help in stopping the people smuggling gangs, seeking closer cooperation in deterring migrants from making the Channel crossing. However, since the United Kingdom has exited the European Union and with it the Union's policy of free movement of peoples between member states, his calls for help fell on death ears. In fairness, illegal migration into Europe is a major issue at the moment for all the countries of the European Union. Hence, although there may be some sympathy for Britain, each European country is beset by its own migration issues, a matter which is becoming a major bone of contention throughout the EU and is causing serious political cracks and divisions to open up within the Union.

There is also a serious security issue involved with this illegal migration, since many of the migrants are young men of military age who arrive without any identification documents. Thus, national authorities cannot determine who they are, where they come from and whether they may have a criminal record. Worse, some of them may be Jihadist terrorists entering Europe as sleeper agents (you may recall here that the C's said 10% of the asylum seekers who Chancellor Angela Merkel let into Germany, i.e., 60,000 people, were Islamic extremists). This is a very similar situation to the illegal migrants crossing the Mexican border into the southern United States, where the C's said recently that the Democrats who have encouraged such migration by lax border controls (useful new Democrat voters for a coming presidential election perhaps?) may find they have a 'tiger by the tail'. The same may well be true of the new Labour administration in the UK since they are traditionally considered to be softer on immigration (legal or illegal) than the Conservatives and our new Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, who is in charge of migration once held up a placard saying "asylum seekers welcome in Britain" (she and Keir Starmer also had their photograph taken with George Soros and Bill Gates at the recent Davos Meeting of the World Economic Forum, but that is another matter - nudge, nudge, wink, wink:-D). That being said, the last Tory administration under Prime Minister Rishi Sunak (the son of Indian migrants himself) allowed 90,000 migrants to enter the country illegally and in the space of two years also granted 2.3 million visas to foreign nationals to enter the UK for work and study etc. This stoked the general feeling that the government had lost control of our borders, something Boris Johnson, as Prime Minister, had promised to reinstate when he took the country out of the European Union after the Brexit vote.

I need to stress here that there has never been a national debate in the UK about migration. It has traditionally been a taboo subject around which the charge of racism was ever present for those who dared to mention the topic. Thus, over the years millions of migrants have poured into the country, mainly settling in the large urban areas, cities and towns. Indeed, Tony Blair invited 4 million migrants alone into the country during his years as Prime Minister. One of his closest aides during this time admitted subsequently that it was a policy he deliberately pursued in order to "gerrymander" numerous political constituencies (i.e. the political manipulation of electoral district boundaries with the intent to create undue advantage for a party, group, or socioeconomic class within the constituency thus diluting the voting power of the opposing party) mainly in the large cities where immigrants tend to settle. It is a matter of record that he said he wanted to "rub the Conservatives noses in it and keep them out of power forever". The result has been that migrants prepared to work for lower wages have often taken jobs that would otherwise have gone to indigenous Britons. Because of the cult of multiculturalism, as pursued by the liberal elite and the socialists over the years, many migrants have failed to assimilate and ghettoes have emerged in many of our major cities. Numerous towns, especially in the north of Britain, have become divided places where immigrants and indigenous Britons live in parallel worlds where the twain seldom meets. This is particularly an issue where there are large Moslem communities, whereby strict Islamic religious laws and customs often act as a barrier to integration between communities. For example, in a strict Moslem household, women are not allowed out of the house unless they are in the company of a husband, father or older brother, which cuts down the opportunity to meet and socialise with indigenous Britons. Likewise there are issues around the food served at schools and colleges, where Moslem pupils and students may only eat Halal food. In the main, the authorities have tended to bend over backwards to accommodate Moslem practices often to the annoyance of indigenous Britons. For example, many left-leaning local authorities now ban Christmas decorations in public buildings during the Christmas season out of the perceived fear of offending Moslems and other non-Christians. This thinking can also be linked with changes to educational policies and the curricula in British schools and colleges where political correctness, diversity, critical race theory and notions of 'white privilege' are now the norm and not the exception. Things are only set to get worse under the new Labour administration since Starmer is appointing a new education advisor who will rewrite the current schools curricula in order to promote even more of this woke ideology.

As a result of all of this, it is now more and more evident that social cohesion is breaking down rapidly in this country. Many white working class people feel ignored and abandoned by all political parties (save perhaps for the new Reform Party) and especially by the Labour Party, the one party who you think would have their best interests at heart. However, the Labour Party in Parliament is no longer representative of working people as it once was, since it is populated now primarily by middle class socialist idealists who exist in a little "chatterati" bubble in Westminster that is completely removed from the lives of ordinary people. Although Labour won a huge majority, they actually polled fewer votes than when they lost the last two elections to the Conservatives. Their huge majority is really down to the vagaries of the "first past the post" voting system, which is the polar opposite of proportional representation voting systems. In reality, only 20% of the electorate entitled to vote voted for Labour. That is not an overwhelming endorsement in spite of their huge majority.

It is against this background that the rioting at Southport has now spread to numerous other cities and towns throughout the country. A migrant hostel was, for example, attacked and set on fire in Rotherham in Yorkshire, a town where not long ago several Pakistani men were convicted and jailed for grooming and raping underage white girls. A police station was also set on fire in Sunderland. Starmer's reaction to this has been to dub all the protestors as "right wing thugs". There is no doubt that certain extreme right wing groups are manipulating things behind the scenes. For example, the media spotlight has been thrown on Tommy Robinson, the former leader of the right wing English Defence League (which I think is really controlled opposition), who was arrested after leading a large scale protest march in London recently and is now outside of the country. However, to label all protestors as right wing thugs is a great oversimplification. Many of the protestors have been ordinary people who are genuinely fearful for their and their children's' future, who have born the brunt of uncontrolled mass migration in terms of crumbling public services and creaking infrastructure. They have seen their standards of living dramatically decline since Covid and the war in the Ukraine. Mortgage rates have soared, inflation has eroded wages and taxes have been at an all time high, with more increases to come. These people, many of whom are struggling to feed themselves and their families, naturally feel that there is nobody in authority listening to them or who cares about their plight. There is a general sense of hopelessness for many of them. As one astute Jewish business commentator said on GB News only tonight, when people have nothing, they have nothing to lose and a spell in prison is not going to deter them. Perhaps this is what the C's had in mind when they said "yes" to Laura's question when she had said: "They're probably intending to create more control, but by trying to do that, they'll provoke more resistance. Certainly, this is one of the first occasions in recent times that I have seen the sheeple of this country show resistance to an overpowerful establishment, which serves the interests of the elite. If things continue as they are, I can see Starmer adopting more draconian measures. Perhaps it is time to fetch out the Guy Fawkes mask! :-D

I do not wish to single out the Labour Party solely for blame here since they have been out of power for the last 14 years until their victory in early July. The Conservatives must take most of the blame since they repeatedly promised to crack down on immigration during their years in power, yet record numbers of migrants still poured into the country on their watch, changing the face of the country and undermining social cohesion. David Cameron, our former prime minister and now a Lord in the House of Lords (the second government chamber) famously declared that the United Kingdom was the most successful multicultural country in the world. That boast looks pretty hollow now. The truth is that migrants to this country were never encouraged to assimilate and integrate into British society as they are required to do in most other countries. This has often led to distrust between indigenous Britons and the new arrivals. Indeed, one cry that has been heard time and again during these protests is enough is enough "we want our country back".

One of the particular targets for the protestors has been Islamic mosques. Unfortunately for the Moslem community, most terrorist attacks in Britain in recent years have been carried out by Islamic extremists (although no doubt some of them were perpetrated by other actors - think of our favourite Zionist organisation here). By way of contrast, there have been no terrorist attacks by Hindu, Sikh or Buddhist religionists in the UK that I am aware of. I have no doubt that the elite, globalists, the Illuminati etc. have exploited the situation for their own ends in pursuit of their agendas and that the Moslems in the UK may find themselves being set up as the fall guys. However, it is concerning to note that tonight in Birmingham, England's second major city, numerous young Moslem men were out and about in the city attacking reporters and motor vehicles in a show of defiance. It may take just one spark to set the whole country ablaze. Indeed, the tycoon Elon Musk has just stepped into the fray, and by doing so has incensed Keir Starmer, by stating that he thinks Britain is heading for a civil war.

This may just be a passing phase during a long, not so hot, summer but certainly things do feel different here. My son phoned me up tonight to say that he feels very uneasy about the whole situation. These spontaneous UK protests have made for strange bedfellows though. I never felt, for example, that I would see the day when Northern Irish people protesting against mass immigration would have protestors carrying the Irish Tricolour, usually only flown by Catholic Nationalists, standing side by side with Protestant Unionists carrying the Ulster flag. Perversely, concerns about the impact of mass migration have brought both sides of this divided community together for a welcome change. At least that is one silver lining.
 
Including the potential for violence and all sorts of, hm , disturbances, by such groups that are not involved in the macro-social dynamics of any nation, there is also the fact that being lets say, dis-enfranchised , such large groups are also a lever to keep and push back, any pressure that formal powers within might have to contend with.
 
I found these in transcript search.

Session 10 December 1994
Q: (L) I got it! You mean that YOU are the Arcturians, the Pleiadians, and now you are the "Cassiopaeans" because you "are where you are"! And you are riding the wave. Is this wave a straight line connecting all these constellations?
A: We are Marciniak's Pleiadians. We are where we are.

Session 11 January 1995
Q: (Susy) Are you from the same group as the Pleiadians?
A: Same. When at Pleiades, Pleiadians, when at Cassiopaea, Cassiopaeans. Light beings.

Also this from October 23, 1994


So as you see, the C's are/were the pleiadians as well as the source for the Ra material.
Great, thanks for this. I hadn't got this information yet.
My apologies for the noise.
 
what is happening in my country, the United Kingdom, at the present time is quite fascinating:
Thank you very much MJF for giving such a concise yet graphic account of events currently taking place in the UK and the reasons leading up to today. Living just outside Manchester, where there were also demonstrations, one would think nothing was going on. Everyone going about their business and totally unaware.
Yes, in some areas, I can see that many are suffering and more will suffer going forward.

Your post will be a great educational piece to show to family and friends if things come any closer to our bubble here. I can say that my family and circle of friends are totally unaware and I imagine they would not believe me if I broached the subject.
Many thanks.
 
That is interesting. My oldest son tells me that he cannot visualise anything at all in his mind. He doesn't even dream. I was quite astonished by this. He is highly intelligent and discerning and for a generation Z person, he surprisingly is not woke. He is also quite an empathic person by nature. Hence, it is hard for me to see him as an OP.​
I, too, asked my children if they could "watch the movie created by reading a book" or visualize an event spoken to them. 2 of them could, but one could not. I was shocked! She said she first noticed this when she was told to count sheep when she couldn't sleep at night and realized she couldn't visualize them. She was 3 years old and remembered that really upsetting her. She, like your son, is an extreme empath, is highly intelligent, and not a typical gen z either. What is interesting is her father is a psychopath. It does make me question if she could be an OP. She doesn't seem to be one based on what we have learned from the C's, but perhaps we don't truly know what OPs are. I feel like a lot of people are placing OPs in a box that has a somewhat negative connotation, but theoretically, we were all OPs at some point. Also, I am thinking about my dog, he has compassion because he knows when I am sad or hurt and comes to sit with me. He gets s
 
I asked my 3 children as well. Two of them visualize routinely and didn’t realize others couldn’t just as myself. One could not visualize. She realize this when she was three and was asked to count sheep to go to sleep. She was very upset she could not see the sheep. I postulate that all OPs cannot visualize. But, perhaps some souled individuals do not as well. Perhaps it’s not an either/or. My daughter who cannot visualize is one of the most empathetic people I’ve ever met in my life. I find it hard to believe she does not have a soul.
 
Thank you very much MJF for giving such a concise yet graphic account of events currently taking place in the UK and the reasons leading up to today. Living just outside Manchester, where there were also demonstrations, one would think nothing was going on. Everyone going about their business and totally unaware.
Yes, in some areas, I can see that many are suffering and more will suffer going forward.

Your post will be a great educational piece to show to family and friends if things come any closer to our bubble here. I can say that my family and circle of friends are totally unaware and I imagine they would not believe me if I broached the subject.
Many thanks.
Although I have only been contributing posts since 2021, I have followed the C's material for many years. I am not really a true "prepper" in the conventional sense but I have maintained an emergency supply of food for a long time now. Ironically, this fact was even used against me in my wife's divorce petition. I guess it helped to portray me as some sort of "nutter". However, it was the C's warnings of events to come that led me to do so and the emergency supply of food came in handy during the Covid lockdowns.

When I spoke to my son last night, he said "Dad, I used to think that everything you said was 'woo woo' but now it is all starting to make sense". He is genuinely concerned about things since he like most of his generation are on social media platforms and they are reading material that does not make it into the mainstream media. He is now considering building up an emergency supply of food (N.B. Laura and the Chateau crew still advocate this). His original plan was to complete his education and then join the British Army. He was an Army Cadet for two years and already has a marksman's badge. Although I would not interfere with his free will, I did point out to him that the British Army was now being used to prosecute globalist agendas so he might want to think about that. If things do deteriorate further (as they did in 1969 in Northern Ireland - I still remember those days), then he appreciates that he may have to fight for kith and kin at some stage. Lol, he is even concerned about me now.

If things do deteriorate further, as they might well do, then you may need to broach these subjects with your family and friends no matter how unpalatable they may be. Who knows, they may finally wake up to reality. The C's have painted a pretty grim picture for the near future for those who still want to pretend they are living in a rose garden. However, choosing to remain in blissful ignorance will not be a solution or a successful strategy when things turn decidedly rough. As the C's say, knowledge protects but ignorance endangers.

As to people calmly going on about their business where one would think nothing was going on, I well recall the riots of 2011, which mainly involved London and were initially triggered by a mixed race gangster being shot dead by police in Tottenham. I worked for a foreign merchant bank at Canary Wharf at the time and many of my colleagues came from abroad and were living in London for the first time. The riots left them stunned and nervous. Suddenly, their normal journeys home became a nerve racking affair where they needed to plot a way around the riot affected areas. At the peak of the rioting, some did not even make it into work they were that scared. They were left asking how could this be happening in Britain one of the safest countries in the world. It is worth noting here that a large percentage of the rioters and looters arrested during those riots were found to be illegal immigrants. As it says in the gospels, you reap what you sew.​
 
I asked my 3 children as well. Two of them visualize routinely and didn’t realize others couldn’t just as myself. One could not visualize. She realize this when she was three and was asked to count sheep to go to sleep. She was very upset she could not see the sheep. I postulate that all OPs cannot visualize. But, perhaps some souled individuals do not as well. Perhaps it’s not an either/or. My daughter who cannot visualize is one of the most empathetic people I’ve ever met in my life. I find it hard to believe she does not have a soul.
Trying to see the truth of things using the clues we have is fine, but I wouldn't give too much importance to all that.

Evil.

I would give importance to that.

I have seen children with malice, without empathy, enjoying hurting others and with total selfishness.

And there were always parents appropriate to that way of being of the child.

We all want the best for our children, so labeling them may not be a good idea to help them.

OP or not OP, I would give more importance to being or not being.
 
I, too, asked my children if they could "watch the movie created by reading a book" or visualize an event spoken to them. 2 of them could, but one could not. I was shocked! She said she first noticed this when she was told to count sheep when she couldn't sleep at night and realized she couldn't visualize them. She was 3 years old and remembered that really upsetting her. She, like your son, is an extreme empath, is highly intelligent, and not a typical gen z either. What is interesting is her father is a psychopath. It does make me question if she could be an OP. She doesn't seem to be one based on what we have learned from the C's, but perhaps we don't truly know what OPs are. I feel like a lot of people are placing OPs in a box that has a somewhat negative connotation, but theoretically, we were all OPs at some point. Also, I am thinking about my dog, he has compassion because he knows when I am sad or hurt and comes to sit with me. He gets s
Thank you for posting this. Like you, I would admit that I am no expert when it comes to determining who may or may not be an OP. Also like you, I believe I may have married a low grade psychopath who in my case exhibited multiple personalities. Two things stood out for me and that was she never could accept any criticism of any kind and like Frank in the transcripts, she always had a down on her parents, blaming them for her predicament. I still get on well with my father in law, who once told me that he knew she badmouthed him and her mother claiming they treated her badly. If there was one thing he regretted though and that was he felt he and his wife had spoiled her too much (she was an only child). Things got so bad at one stage that our children almost got taken into care. I had to take advice from a lawyer to keep the local social services at bay, yet my wife remained oblivious to the dangers the children were in (there is a long history in this country of children who are taken into care being abused). At the end of the day, it was all about her and she always put herself first. Perhaps unlike your situation though, I still try to keep on good terms with my ex-wife, especially for the sake of my children, even though they are all adults now. However, in spite of the apparent amity, I always remain wary of her since she can be so unpredictable.

As to your dog, although I am not a dog person myself, I remember that when my uncle and godfather was dying at home from cancer, the family dog stayed under his bed the whole time and would not leave him. The dog was inconsolable when he died. There is no question that dogs and cats can pick up on their owner's emotions. In this regard, we should remember that the C's said cats and dogs were telepathic, which might account for this ability.​
 
I asked my 3 children as well. Two of them visualize routinely and didn’t realize others couldn’t just as myself. One could not visualize. She realize this when she was three and was asked to count sheep to go to sleep. She was very upset she could not see the sheep. I postulate that all OPs cannot visualize. But, perhaps some souled individuals do not as well. Perhaps it’s not an either/or. My daughter who cannot visualize is one of the most empathetic people I’ve ever met in my life. I find it hard to believe she does not have a soul.
Yeah, Why assume the worst? Especially based on a single test/data point a day an early stage of development.

Grain of salt. What gospel states “If X, then Y always necessarily follows” when it comes to human behavior and development? And how often are those things wrong, anyway? How many people did Dr Spock screw up?
 

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