Show #15: No Ordinary Inside Job: The 9/11 Psy-Ops

[Guardian]

What disappointed me immediately about Ms Wood was that she said that you mustn't listen to anything being said but only look with your eyes.

My jaw dropped when she essentially said that in criminal investigations you always have to figure out how something was done before you can figure out who did it, which is TOTALLY untrue, especially with computer crimes. The perpetrators are OFTEN caught long before what they've actually done has been figured out...because someone snitches on them. In fact, catching the hacker often results in finding out what damage they did, and how they did it, because they roll over and tell.

If Dr. Cheeto has any family, they should really find her a nice, quiet place to "rest" 'cause she's seriously embarrassing herself every time she opens her mouth, and doesn't even know it.

 

[seek10]

I have attached a .txt file of the chat room log that has been trimmed of all of the room traffic timestamps(entering and quitting) for anyone that wants it.

Thank you QL for the log. I read the chat log quickly. these guys made this chat a bar fight. It is like undercover police instigating the fights. Typical cointelpro. It looks these are the members of Judy Wood gang.
AshleyJones1
SusannahCole
freedom fighter0
Hesher Sesher
BobbySaget
blah blah blog
ThePeteSantilliShow
JanaMurray
existextinct

we know the pete's mask of sanity. Probably andrew also might be there in the above list. existextinct entered later in the show, probably she/he is the same gang member re entered. Ridiculous part is we are supporting Judy Wood, but these guys still made so much noise. Probably digging further of these characters will show who is paying them. Of course we know from andrew's URL, we will learn more.

 

[seek10]

For what it's worth, in every instance where I've seen exchanges between Dr. Wood and other 9/11 researchers, it was my impression that she was quite able to convey her meanings to others if she chose to. What I saw was someone who could communicate very effectively ( via group emails) and what was communicated was quite clear: vicious, pointed, sharply worded emails.

Lisa, These guys are scared of you. they went bonkers when they heard your name. Take care of your self. Some people are good presenters as long as they have smooth ride, but any small bump is sufficient to give them agitation and show their true face and start throwing things at others (projecting). that is what these troll's did. It basically says, they are dead scared of getting exposed and they clearly know how weak their conclusions are. Most probably they are paid for those conclusions. Obviously we know who benefits from those conclusions.

 

[Guardian]

I think that her point - not made very well - was that nano-thermite would produce a certain, consistent, heat signature and the signature

Again, she's assuming we know all about what nano-thermite is currently available, what it's heat signature is, etc. when what the military usually has tech is about 20-30 years ahead of what they'll admit they have.

but something else was also going on that produced some serious high strangeness.

I've always wondered if something didn't just shift in for a snack? That's an awful lot of fear and terror energy to let go to waste? "The psychopaths are about to commit mass murder...All You Can Eat Buffet at the Towers"?

It would have been cool if she could have listened to Ark a few minutes, had a real discussion about the topic, and given the listeners some real meat. But I guess we'll never be able to talk about some of these things with Judy because she's such a scrambled egg.

Well, Ark is still the first person with a PhD I've ever "met" that I'd be willing to pee on if they caught fire....and for him, I'd even get the garden hose. ;)

I think it's so sad how they make smart people go to school, it usually ruins them....Ark's a RARE exception.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Ridiculous part is we are supporting Judy Wood, but these guys still made so much noise.

Exactly. It's ponerization on the micro-group level. Here we are supporting DR. Wood's research, and yet, the behavior of her groupies is such that decent people want nothing to do with them. In other words, the group selects for rabid attack dog fanatics, discouraging reasonable people who would otherwise support her work. It's either very sad or very clever, or both.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I concur with seek10. After a brief look, the websites you linked pay homage to the likes of Alex Jones, Jim Marrs, "free energy", and Judy Wood. In light of recent events concerning Judy Wood, And knowing the history of Alex Jones, Jim Marrs, and the "free energy" movement,

Just wondering what links you might have on Jim Marrs. I've liked what I've read of his stuff.

 

[Voyageur]

I also found this article on Santilli, fwiw: _http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/20/lunatics-r-us-the-santilliwoodsunstein-gambit/

Found this later after the show, too, along with a few more, including many email strings exchanges, and to be honest, he kind of reminded me of that self proclaimed guru expert on psychopathology from another thread some may recall who showed his true colours.

Have listened to the show again for the first hour and just as the first time, i've not grasped where the hell this Pete came from, i mean Joe and Niall, introductions done, are saying hello to the line expecting Wood to be there and there is this Pete guy. He disappears for awhile (thought he was off line) into the wings and then comes back and says things about Psy-ops bla, bla like an authoritarian, like he, representing Woods, had it all figured out and was there to teach. Before Joe thankfully cut him out, though, this guy is not good, not good at all. After reading some of the links and emails he sent - good grief.

Judy was bizarre cognitively, she had no time for others words. When she was talking, it was like how one memorizes a power point presentation and sees only each slide - she brought up the exact things said by rout that she says in every presentation, no allowances for deviations - i mean this was Radio, she a guest, radio is where exchanges are the norm, not a conference room podium where everyone is hush until questions can be asked; in Radiotalk, she was not in control and she made sure it could only be her voice that meant anything.

Something she said that was wired, perhaps just the way she put it, was essentially proclaiming that her research, her book, was the De facto analysis of the evidence, so don't bother yourself to ask more, it's just dust. Indeed, that it was, but there is always more and she had no desire to look or even be willing to be asked. The disrespect of talking over and around you Ark, without hearing or entertaining a word you said, which was very astute by the way, and I wouldn't blame you for a second if you did not just shrug your shoulders and head to the kitchen for some tea.

Nevertheless, Judy does point out phenomena that initially escaped me, the little bits and pieces (thanks for that), yet her rigidity is strange and by Lisa's comments, a different picture is emerging.


Edit: ok, just caught this other thread on Pete ; feelings confirmed.

 

[Cosmos]

Lisa is there a way you could provide us with the e mails and conversations, wich Wood wrote? Or do you have a link were we could read some of them?

 

[Niall]

Just to give y'all some background to the radio show, we initially decided to do a show on 9/11 in general, drawing on lots of evidence that Laura and others have collected over the years.

We figured Lisa would be the perfect guest for such a show so we contacted her and asked if she'd be willing to be on and she agreed. On Friday night, after publishing the show blurb and including mention of Wood and her book, we figured we'd go ahead and check to see if she was available too. This was before we had any idea that Lisa had had personal experience with Wood.

It was an afterthought really. We didn't intend for it to become about her work and the WTC 'collapse' exclusively.

When Wood responded favorably, she seemed relieved that we had reached out to her because she "was told by someone that you were planning to have someone else on to present her work."

 

[Ben]

What disappointed me immediately about Ms Wood was that she said that you mustn't listen to anything being said but only look with your eyes. While this is certainly good advice, the devil is in the details. EVERYTHING is evidence, also the lies being told about an event. And she said that there are some problems we never can solve. And Atreides caught that pretty quickly and called her unscientific. I totally agree.

This was exactly the point at which I wondered whether this woman, whose work I know very little about, might not be so deserving of the courtesy and patience extended to her throughout the whole process. When she refused to respond logically to the idea that the perpetrators are as important as the crime I was further put off. I was shouting at the iPad - "if you examine the crime and ignore the criminals, what's the bloody point??' Like others have pointed out, while the evidence she has collecting may be compelling, she is the worst possible advert for her book. The fact that she so completely wasted this opportunity to present her evidence in the perfect forum for it, and didn't seem to be aware or even CARE about the background of the show she was talking on for over an hour, calls into question her mental state and her intentions.

 

[sitting]

Something she said that was wired, perhaps just the way she put it, was essentially proclaiming that her research, her book, was the De facto analysis of the evidence, so don't bother yourself to ask more,

That in a nutshell is her problem.

There's no denying her thoroughness, or her major findings (which BTW should not be trivialized). But believing herself to be thorough, she leapt to the conclusion that she's covered everything and done everything.

She doesn't see the obvious...which is clear to everyone else once she drew an arbitrary tight circle around what she considered paramount. Everything outside that circle in her mind was irrelevant. That was plain silly. Then it became a religious crusade...to insure the purity of the faith. There's a tinge of fanaticism in her pronouncements...and certainly in those of the faithful. This is a very sad state of affairs. It plays perfectly into the hands of the controllers. They stay quiet and watch her self destruct.

Ark's questions could have opened up an entirely new vista for her. And for a brief moment, I thought she got it. It came when Ark pursued the idea of information rather than energy as the ultimate motive force employed. She kind of said "yes" but quickly relapsed into her old ways. I was deeply disappointed. A lot could have come out of that line of inquiry. And the idea of an information field was mentioned in the transcripts. Plus when you think about the concept of soul imprint abductions, it seems logical that a precise information field of some sort is required for the duplication process.

Ark's other question about price also flew right over her. It is most definitely important to understand the economic price and the political price of such an event. I would further add that there may even be a spiritual price attached as well. Since there're apparently boundaries in which how far evil can go. And that all things come back into balance at the end.

PS I would humbly suggest we tone down the ridicule. She's far from perfect, but she has made a definite contribution. And in the end, all things do even out.

 

[Joe]

When Wood responded favorably, she seemed relieved that we had reached out to her because she "was told by someone that you were planning to have someone else on to present her work."

Which was strange because the show had been announced less than 12 hours before. Wonder who the tout was...

 

[Lisa Guliani]

Pashalis asked: Lisa is there a way you could provide us with the e mails and conversations, wich Wood wrote? Or do you have a link were we could read some of them?
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I doubt it. I don't save every single email I get. This was several years ago. That said, ya never know what you'll find digging through your files. I'm looking through my computer to see if perhaps I did save some of those exchanges.
I wasn't the only person who saw them. It was a mass email list, and the emails were cc'd to many people within the 9/11 community and the Scholars group.
After awhile, when you see something like an ongoing sparring match between egotistical trolls, you start deleting them.
If I find anything, Pashalis, I'll definitely post it here.

 

[QuantumLogic]

I concur with seek10. After a brief look, the websites you linked pay homage to the likes of Alex Jones, Jim Marrs, "free energy", and Judy Wood. In light of recent events concerning Judy Wood, And knowing the history of Alex Jones, Jim Marrs, and the "free energy" movement,

Just wondering what links you might have on Jim Marrs. I've liked what I've read of his stuff.

I put Jim Marrs in the list due to some of the experiences I had on ATS. Many of the same people who were trashing Laura on that site were the ones putting Jim Marrs on a pedestal. I also found it curious that his book "The Terror Conspiracy" was distributed by a publisher named "The Disinformation Company". Even back then that raised somewhat of a red flag to me. I understand publishers can have interesting names, but "The Disinformation Company"?

Perhaps he has changed,or perhaps I am misreading him altogether, but he seems like he is more interested in selling books and DVDs. It was the material in his book "Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy" that was the basis for the film "JFK", which after seeing "Evidence of Revision" makes me think his book and the JFK film were a purposeful misdirection. I am also skeptical of his work and motives due to the sheer coverage he has been given by mainstream media over the years, OSIT.

 

[anart]

When Wood responded favorably, she seemed relieved that we had reached out to her because she "was told by someone that you were planning to have someone else on to present her work."

Which was strange because the show had been announced less than 12 hours before. Wonder who the tout was...

Kind of gives the impression that someone is watching what SOTT Talk Radio is discussing very closely. I mean, someone supposedly saw the blurb on it and immediately started to manage the situation - immediately. Nice to be noticed, eh? ;)