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Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

I am not a smoker but I can smoke on occasional cigarillo for "medicinal" purposes.

I can report I found my quality bi-weekly or monthly single smoke.

Montecristo cigarillos from CUBA!!

The ones you buy in the States are from the Dominican Republic with a wrapper I've heard produced in the USA (and are thus suspect in quality, purity and healthfulness).

The ones I buy duty free in Chile are from Cuba. They are filterless, wrapped in tobacco paper and 100% Cuban tobacco from a brand with a longstanding reputation of Cuban quality.

Just passing it on...reference $31 USD for a nice wooden box of 50 duty free price in Chile.
 
Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

Wrayer said:
#2: Barring that, is it even feasible/possible to grow my own tobacco plants? Does anybody have any idea what's involved? I can be patient here if need be.
Well it doesnt look like you have much chance in Canada, tobacco plant likes temperate climate and alot of sunshine. You can try but I dont think you will be happy with the result.
 
Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

Rick said:
I used to grow tobacco as a kid, believe it or not. I cured it in the garage and rolled cigars which my father smoked. I tried it a couple of times, but never got hooked. This is on Long Island, NY. Connecticut used to be a tobacco growing state. So if you're in a Canadian climate similar to that I don't think you'd have much difficulty growing it.
as far as I know the firdst grade tobacco comes from poor soils of red type and temperate climates , stronger the sun better the quality of the tobacco,

I am sure you can grow tobaccon in conneticut but I am not sure how good its quality will be
 
Spot in brain may control smoking urge

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070125/ap_on_he_me/smoking_brain_damage

SPOT IN BRAIN MAY CONTROL SMOKING URGE
By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer
Thu Jan 25, 5:44 PM ET

Damage to a silver dollar-sized spot deep in the brain seems to wipe out the urge to smoke, a surprising discovery that may shed important new light on addiction. The research was inspired by a stroke survivor who claimed he simply forgot his two-pack-a-day addiction -- no cravings, no nicotine patches, not even a conscious desire to quit.

"The quitting is like a light switch that went off," said Dr. Antoine Bechara of the University of Southern California, who scanned the brains of 69 smokers and ex-smokers to pinpoint the region involved. "This is very striking."

Clearly brain damage isn't a treatment option for people struggling to kick the habit.

But the finding, reported in Friday's edition of the journal Science, does point scientists toward new ways to develop anti-smoking aids by targeting this little-known brain region called the insula. And it sparked excitement among addiction specialists who expect the insula to play a key role in other addictions, too.

"It's a fantastic paper, it's a fantastic finding," said Dr. Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse and a longtime investigator of the brain's addiction pathways.

"What this study shows unequivocally is the insula is a key structure in the brain for perceiving the urges to take the drug," urges that are "the backbone of the addiction," Volkow added.

Why? The insula appears to be where the brain turns physical reactions into feelings, such as feeling anxious when your heart speeds up. When those reactions are caused by a particular substance, the insula may act like sort of a headquarters for cravings.

Some 44 million Americans smoke, and the government says more than 400,000 a year die of smoking-related illnesses. Declines in smoking have slowed in recent years, making it unlikely that the nation will reach a public health goal of reducing the rate to 12 percent by 2010.

Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances known, and it's common for smokers to suffer repeated relapses when they try to quit.

So imagine Bechara's surprise at hearing a patient he code-named "Nathan" note nonchalantly that "my body forgot the urge to smoke" right after his stroke.

At the time, Bechara was at the University of Iowa studying the effects of certain types of brain damage after strokes or other injury. While Nathan was hospitalized, stroke specialists sent his information to that brain registry. He was 38, had smoked since 14, said he enjoyed it and had had no intention to quit. But his last puff was the night before his stroke. His surprised wife said he never even asked for a smoke while in the hospital.

It's not unusual for a health scare to prompt an attempt at quitting. "That's the quitting that's not as interesting," Bechara said.

Instead, Nathan experienced what Bechara calls a "disruption of smoking addiction," and he wanted to know why.

Bechara and colleagues culled their brain-damage registry for 69 patients who had smoked regularly before their injuries. Nineteen, including Nathan, had damage to the insula. Thirteen of the insula-damaged patients had quit smoking, 12 of them super-easily: They quit within a day of the brain injury, and reported neither smoking nor even feeling the urge since then.

Of the remaining 50 patients with damage in other brain regions, 19 quit smoking but only four met the broken-addiction criteria.

If Bechara's findings are validated, they suggest that developing drugs that target the insula might help smokers quit. There are nicotine receptors in the insula, meaning it should be possible to create a nicotine-specific drug, Bechara said -- albeit years from now.

More immediately, NIDA's Volkow wants to try a different experiment: Scientists can temporarily alter function of certain brain regions with pulses of magnetic energy, called "transcranial magnetic stimulation." She wants to see if it's possible to focus such magnetic pulses on the insula, and thus verify its role.

Other neurologic functions are known to be involved with addiction, too, such as the brain's "reward" or pleasure pathways. The insula discovery doesn't contradict that work, but adds another layer to how addiction grips the brain, Bechara said.
 
Spot in brain may control smoking urge

Yeah! Now they have another way to control people!!!

It is absolutely astonishing that so much money, time, energy, effort, is devoted to this one issue when the whole planet is on the verge of total destruction. You may die from famine, war, environmentally induced diseases, by by God! we ain't gonna let you smoke!!!

Pathetic.
 
Spot in brain may control smoking urge

Laura said:
It is absolutely astonishing that so much money, time, energy, effort, is devoted to this one issue when the whole planet is on the verge of total destruction. You may die from famine, war, environmentally induced diseases, by by God! we ain't gonna let you smoke!!!
Breaktime is here, so I gotta walk off the work site property here to enjoy a smoke.
Over by the train tracks is where I go.
In freezing temperatures.
I ain't gonna quit smokin' either.

M. Howard said:
a silver dollar-sized spot deep in the brain
My spot is the size of a melon, and growing...
 
Spot in brain may control smoking urge

Laura said:
It is absolutely astonishing that so much money, time, energy, effort, is devoted to this one issue when the whole planet is on the verge of total destruction. You may die from famine, war, environmentally induced diseases, but by God! we ain't gonna let you smoke!!!

Pathetic.
Truly! You might be surprised by the amount of air play this story was given on the U.S. info-tainment [news] networks today. I wouldn't be surprised if some enterprising huckster makes a quick couple of million offering some sort of outpatient procedure similar to the type they do for correction of nearsightedness. (They will call it a "stroke of genius.")

M. Howard said:
a silver dollar-sized spot deep in the brain
Al Today said:
My spot is the size of a melon, and growing...
Good one!
 
Anti-Smoking Guru dies of Lung Cancer

[...]Yet most of the harms caused by tobacco use are due not to tar, but to the use of radioactive fertilizers. Surprisingly, radiation seems to be the most dangerous and important factor behind tobacco lung damage.
[...]

Researchers have induced cancer in animal test subjects that inhaled polonium 210, but were unable to cause cancer through the inhalation of any of the non-radioactive chemical carcinogens found in tobacco.10 The most potent non-radioactive chemical, benzopyrene, exists in cigarettes in amounts sufficient to account for only 1% of the cancer found in smokers.9[...]
http://www.acsa2000.net/HealthAlert/radioactive_tobacco.html

Session 980919 is also interesting.
 
Anti-Smoking Guru dies of Lung Cancer

wow - 100 cigarettes a day - that's just amazing! How does one do that without hospitalizing themselves with nicotine poisoning? I thought I was a heavy smoker at a pack a day. Is there even enough time in a day to go through five packs? Didn't the guy eat or sleep?
 
Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong here. I'm trying to 'reply' to a previous post entitled
"Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?"

I've tried twice. Each time, this comes up as an original post rather than a 'reply' post.

I 'clicked' on the "Post Reply" option just above the original post -- & this is the result.

Because I understand that I'm a semi-illiterate computer newbie, any help I can get so I can post a 'reply' properly instead of beginning a new subject, would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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The following is my "Reply" to the above posted query.

It's been a few years -- but I thought the Nat Sherman cigarettes were (or used to be) made in Canada.
No chemicals, preservatives, etc. et al. And they really tasted great too!!

They were more expensive than American Spirit -- but I smoked fewer of them -- because they were
so satisfying.

After quitting cold-turkey several times myself (once for 2-1/2 yrs. - twice for 1 yr each -- twice for 6 mos each)
and trying the patches for traveling on airplanes (which made my skin break out in a rash) I too have decided to "quit quitting".

Now I smoke homeopathic doses -- like 3 or 4 puffs at one time. And that reduces my cigarette smoking to about 3 cigs per day. And just because I can -- I call it "prayer air" -- because there's no point in reaffirming that what I'm doing is negative for my health. There's more than enough of that news to make me want to scream.

Funny how I'm the most healthy person I know. And no one else smokes cigarettes. Of course that may be because I try to balance it out -- with lots of organic raw foods, lots of exercise, and probably a more healthy lifestyle than most others whose only 'healthy' habit seems to be that they don't smoke.

And I'm 62 this year. So there!
 
Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

i'm still stuck smoking chemical soup, when i'm not too poor, that is, lol
 
Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

If you roll your own organic cig it's not that expensive. It would cost about the same as smoking regular radioactive cigz, in fact slightly cheaper.
 
Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

Just wondering....

Why not smoke a pipe like I do? I least I took up where the
native indians introduced it to us as a peace offering and in
the form or a cigar or certainly a pipe. I am almost *certain*
they did not smoke cigarettes, but I *could* be wrong ;)
 
Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

How do you smoke pipe? I tried and dang it was waaaay too heavy for me. It was like inhaling huge Cuban cigar smoke. On the other hand, you don't smoke the paper which is better than smoking cigz.
 
Alright, I'm gonna smoke. What's the best plan of attack?

You don't need to inhale the pipe smoke. Or cigar smoke.
 

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