From my experience, the burgundy pack of AS is the organic (rather than just no additives) one. It IS smoother than the regular one both the yellow (blondes, I think - haven't smoked those for probably 15 years) or the blue-green packs (regular additive free). Those both ARE too dry when I've tried them both in U.S. and Armenia - definitely need to be hydrated.
As far as getting adapted, it's going to be a personal trial and error kinda thing, but you'll eventually find your stride and settle into what's best for you, nyvf5.
As far as getting adapted, it's going to be a personal trial and error kinda thing, but you'll eventually find your stride and settle into what's best for you, nyvf5.
Yozilla
The Living Force
loreta said:
Maybe you could try cellulose free "Smoking Brown" hemp paper. When I started smoking I used only regular paper, but - over the time/experimenting with different brands - stumbled upon Brown, and begun to like it more and more. Now i find the sense of reg paper burning out pretty annoying... I only hope that i'm not after hemp/pot really!
SneezinT said:
I'm not certain, yet I think you can purchase a credit card system (no qualifying) that you then load with ones own available funds in a credit amount you have decided upon, and when it's used up, you load it again if need be - really, it's a debit card in a credit card mask, or like a pay n' talk phone card, yet it can help for those online transactions that require a CC.
mocachapeau said:
Hi>
Here is what I wrote in another thread about e-cigs: Re: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26825.msg450203.html#msg450203
Re: "Electric cigarette explodes in Florida man’s mouth"
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2013, 01:30:12 AM »
So, here is my 2 week electronic cigarette experiment.
I started with a small cigarette looking one, I liked it but noticed it made my throat hurt some, which I thought was due to the PG, one of the days of smoking clove flavored(high nicotine strength) my front teeth felt numb. I thought it was probably the clove causing the numb feeling (had a dream that night all my teeth were falling out).
The next week got a bigger battery e-cig, and tried the Vigin Vapor organic flavors with VG to see if it was easier on my throat then the PG. It was, and I REALLY liked it. I really went bananas over the Coffee Monkey(coffee banana - medium nicotine strength). I did that pretty heavily over two days, and again I was having some numbness in my front teeth and in my sinuses. Also, had a morning were I woke up with a bad sinus headache. Thought that it was the nicotine causing the numbness, and vaping way to much, so I backed off. Even vaping very infrequently I had numbness.
I ordered 0 nicotine to cut down the medium strength, thinking it was too high of nicotine for me. I usually only smoke about 6 cigarettes a day on average, so I thought I was over dosing a bit. Today, I received and tried the 0 nicotine by itself, and I am very disappointed to report that it is definitely PG and VG that cause the numbness. Trying to do a little research on it doesn't bring up much, but I did find a little about vegetable glycerin.
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_http://www.ehow.co.uk/list_6949143_vegetable-glycerin-dangers.html
_http://www.ucanquit2.org/facts/ECigarettesVapor.aspx
"But now doctors have raised concerns about e-cigarette vapor separate from those about nicotine. A 42-year-old woman who had used e-cigarettes for seven months experienced shortness of breath, cough, and fever over the same period. The diagnosis was lipoid pneumonia—a chronic inflammation caused by fatty substances (lipids) in the lungs—due to e-cigarette use. The specific cause was repeated exposure to glycerin-based oils found in e-cigarette nicotine vapor. The patient’s symptoms improved after she stopped using e-cigarettes.1"
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Glycerin Allergy Syptoms:
Upon exposure or use, glycerin allergy skin symptoms include dermatitis which can cause itching, burning and redness of skin, dizziness, nausea, and swelling
Glycerin enema allergy will show anal irritation, rectal blooding, diarrhea, stomach cramps
Glycerin spray allergy will show numbness of cheeks, tongue, or mouth
Patient with glycerin suppositories allergy suffer with anal irritation, burning sensation, diarrhea, gas, nausea, and stomach cramps.
Severe allergy symptoms are rashes, hives, breathing difficulty, tightness of the chest, swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue, and rectal bleeding.
I am definitely sensitive to the glycerine, and I am really disappointed, because I really liked it :(. It really is one of those "if it sounds too good too be true, it probably is".
Even though it has been roughly a year since I completely ceased any vaping I am still dealing with some off and on weirdness in my teeth, sinuses that can cause a bit of a headache. It isn't everyday, or all the time, and I can't figure out what causes it to flare up. It all goes back to the very beginning of vaping, and I personally wish I never tried it.
fwiw
H-KQGE
Dagobah Resident
voyageur said:
SneezinT sorry for the late response, I missed your post at the bottom of the last page. (Happens a fair bit, my emails skip a page for some reason) I use Amazon gift vouchers for online shopping. I've always got around the CC issue for online purchases, but getting the right type of tobacco is the one that's got me now. Voyageur, I have a debit card now & with your breakdown, I'll look at this debit/credit malarkey. Not happy about it though, makes me feel vulnerable.
Mr. Premise
The Living Force
Rhiannon said:
That's good information, Rhiannon. I guess I'll stick to nicotine patches for times when I can't have tobacco.
Psalehesost
The Living Force
hlat said:
Since you're just starting, I wouldn't order a whole box. Get like 5 of them and see if you enjoy the experience. You don't need a humidor unless you need to keep them fresh for a longer period of time. If you smoke them with 7-10 days, they shouldn't dry out. Keeping them in a room that's warm will help with freshness too.
SeekinTruth said:
I have found that AS cigarettes are harsh as well. There are lighter varieties, but there is a distinctive metallic taste from the papers (to me anyway). When I first started smoking again, I found a local tobacco shop and asked them to help choose a variety that was light and smooth. Tobacco shops are more expensive, but you can buy small amounts and try several varieties until you find something that you can tolerate. Once you find a brand or type of tobacco, then you can order larger quantities.
Yeah, seems best to be very careful with the e-cigs. Glad I didn't try it as I was thinking to for a long flight and return last year. I'll stick to real tobacco and deal with not being able to smoke for several hours on future flights (may try snus).
SeekinTruth said:
I bought some of the nastiest/cheapest e-cigs for a 6 hour bus trip recently - even though they are banned on UK transport - and it JUST about got me through. By the last 2 hours i was using it like an asthma inhaler (much like regular users of the stuff, from what i've seen). And you realise how satiating a proper rolled cigarette is when you finally step off and spark up.
Sadly, i would recommend it to anyone in a similar position. Though if you can push through ok without it, of course that is probably preferable.
added: If you are ok with Snus, i tried it and found it very strong (may have been the type) that would probably be better, for your health and with regards to nicotine delivery.
Horseofadifferentcolor
Jedi Council Member
itellsya said:
Do be careful with the cheap ones. I had a long plane fight and when I was between flights, I used one of these in the airport bathroom and it caught on fire on the end where the fake cherry is. :O Never tried one again after that. No telling what I inhaled from that thing.
