Smoking is... good?

[Nienna]

When I first lit one up I smoked it like a cigar and just had a mouthful of smoke :P. I have only smoked cigars and a pipe and never inhaled, so it took me a while to get used to it. The organic was quite harsh on my throat, but the menthol tasted nice. When I exhale and get the smoke in my eyes it burns, is this the same for everyone?

This is going to seem like a strange question, I suppose. If when smoking a cigar or pipe, you never inhale, how do you get the benefit of the nicotine?

 

[theos]

I agree with Shijing that it would be best to smoke outside. Even though the smoke will be harmless to them, the smell may annoy them. For example, my housemate is a smoker, so we are fortunate enough that we can choose to smoke inside and air our bedrooms often by opening our windows.

I don't like the smell of a smoky house so I put an exhaust fan in my window next to my smoking spot (at my computer desk) and the smoke goes straight out.

 

[3DStudent]

This is going to seem like a strange question, I suppose. If when smoking a cigar or pipe, you never inhale, how do you get the benefit of the nicotine?

I think that there is some of the nicotine absorbed through the mouth, but certainly not as much as inhaling which goes right to the brain. I think I didn't want to fully commit to inhaling due to my schooling and the demonization. But I guess I've let that go now.

I don't like the smell of a smoky house so I put an exhaust fan in my window next to my smoking spot (at my computer desk) and the smoke goes straight out.

Yeah when I smoked my pipe in my room I had the ceiling fan on and the window open. The smoke seemed to go right up into the fan. I could also move my computer desk right next to my window. But for now I'll just keep going outside.

 

[3DStudent]

I counted my drags and I got 12, I also didn't pack the cigs, so that might be why they were burning a little fast. This last one I actually got a nicotine high, perhaps too much. I started seeing stars when I stood up, phosphenes, like when you cough really hard. I've only had one nicotine high on a strong cigar that burned slow.

I think I was inhaling wrong too. I just read that you're supposed to take it in your mouth and then inhale it through your nose. I just sucked it straight into my lungs like a straw. I also heard that you don't inhale on the initial light.

So I just need some practice :P, you would think something like smoking a cigarette was straightforward.

 

[Mrs. Peel]

So I just need some practice :P, you would think something like smoking a cigarette was straightforward.

Actually, it's not. I think that's one of the reasons I never became a smoker, I just couldn't get the hang of inhaling. I tried, numerous times over the years. Ended up with a burned throat/lungs, coughing fits, burning eyes, etc. It shouldn't have been that complicated. :D

So, I took that as a sign that it's just not for me. But I can do it virtually....

 

[abstract]

This last one I actually got a nicotine high, perhaps too much

Even if you vomit, don't worry about that. It's a matter of developing tolerance. It's typical to get nausea and feel very heavy.

think I was inhaling wrong too. I just read that you're supposed to take it in your mouth and then inhale it through your nose

Er, that would be french inhaling. Just take it in your mouth and then inhale (through your mouth) without even thinking about it. Pretend it's just ordinary air.

Inhaling on the first puff is just personal preference. If it burns your throat when you inhale, try not to inhale so much smoke at once, since you've mostly smoked cigars and

pipes, you may be used to puffing a little hard.

Also, you could try and do some little tests on yourself, see if your cognitive functioning improves after smoking for a while? Just a thought. It'd be nifty fer the tobacco video. ;D

 

[3DStudent]

I didn't mean let it escape and do the french inhale, but what I did was get a puff in my mouth and then continue to inhale through the nose. I guess you could continue to inhale through the mouth too, but I was thinking along the lines of pipe breathing, in through the nose, out through the mouth ;). In either case, it's easier than continually sucking it like a straw directly in the lungs, which has a lot of resistance.

I'll see if I notice my cognitive functions improve this week. I try to read after I smoke, kind of using it as a supplementary thing.

 

[brandon]

This is going to seem like a strange question, I suppose. If when smoking a cigar or pipe, you never inhale, how do you get the benefit of the nicotine?

I think that there is some of the nicotine absorbed through the mouth, but certainly not as much as inhaling which goes right to the brain. I think I didn't want to fully commit to inhaling due to my schooling and the demonization. But I guess I've let that go now.

I've recently taken up pipe smoking (I also smoke cigarettes) and was wondering about this.. To me, it feels like I am still getting a good amount of nicotine, but it feels a bit different to cigs.. more subtle..

With a pipe you generally smoke over a much longer time period than a cigarette, eg 3 to 5 minutes for a cigarette, 45 mins to 1 hour for a pipe - though a pipe does hold more tobacco than a cigarette - mine is quite big, holding probably about 2 cigs' worth. So perhaps you do get a good amount of nicotine simply because you smoke more & slower?

Actually since I started pipe smoking I seem to naturally feel like smoking less often.. 1 to 3 pipes a day, plus maybe 1 cigarette, where I previously might smoke up to 10 or 12 cigarettes a day. Admittedly it takes a lot more time to smoke a pipe, there just isn't enough spare time to smoke more :)

I still feel the need for a cigarette every now and then, sometimes because of time restraint, sometimes because it does seem to have a quicker, more intense nicotine hit...

There's nothing to stop you from inhaling pipe smoke anyway, though it's apparently not the Done Thing... it's just that it can be quite a bit harsher than cigarette smoke.. if you smoke slowly it seems alright to me.

 

[dant]

When I first lit one up I smoked it like a cigar and just had a mouthful of smoke :P. I have
only smoked cigars and a pipe and never inhaled, so it took me a while to get used to it. The
organic was quite harsh on my throat, but the menthol tasted nice. When I exhale and get
the smoke in my eyes it burns, is this the same for everyone?

This is going to seem like a strange question, I suppose. If when smoking a
cigar or pipe, you never inhale, how do you get the benefit of the nicotine?

You might be quite surprised how quickly nicotine is being absorbed
via the mouth where seemingly very little, if any smoke enters into the
lungs, if so controlled. (Smokeless) chewing tobacco products give you
the nicotine, a very strong buzz with no smoke entering into the lungs
but perhaps the downside may be the direct contact of the tobacco in the
mouth, and the "delivery agent" is in liquid form and not as effective(?)
whereas, with a pipe, it is the nicotine laden smoke that is in direct contact
in the mouth's membranes is a much better/quicker delivery agent?

Generally, with a pipe, you can smoke for longer periods, slowly in small puffs or
hugely drag in a LOT more smoke and without frequent reloads and for those trying
to do things in moderation, it requires patience, practice, and self-control.

Pipes uses no paper, can use filters (if the pipe supports it), needs an occasional
cleaning (tar), and one can choose different flavours, after each load. It is a very
versatile tool and works for me quite well. Pipe/tobacco/lighter/cleaner/tools/...
can be carried in a good quality pouch, so that it is portable.

Keep on smokin'

 

[Gaby]

Pipe or cigar smoke leads to rapid increases in nicotine without inhalation as nicotine is readily absorbed through oral and nasal mucous membrane. But inhaling nicotine is the "quickest". More info here: http://www.science.smith.edu/departments/Biochem/Chm_357/presentations/nicotine.ppt

 

[dant]

Oh! That is sooo cool! :)

But then, there is the question - does smoking into the
lungs cause 'lung cancer'? [I am sincere, and I hope this
is not a loaded question (pun intended)]

Just the [layman] facts, please :P

 

[abstract]

does smoking into the
lungs cause 'lung cancer'? [I am sincere, and I hope this
is not a loaded question (pun intended)]

Just the [layman] facts, please

Cancer is a fungus. Tobacco is anti-fungal.

Tobacco in pure form cannot and will not cause cancer! :D

Research has shown me, through logical analysis, that tobacco was being used a very long time before lung cancer was first described...IN THE 1700'S!

Since a thousand years ago there wasn't constant pollution, toxicity, and processed food, we can rule out these factors. Actually, none of that was really around

until relatively recently in history. (not that there aren't other ways to die)

So people smoke like chimneys for hundreds of years and no one dies from lung cancer. They didn't have all the pestecides and radiation from nuclear testing and the

additives, etc. They didn't drink pasturized milk, eat mcdonalds, drink fluoridated/chlorinated water, smoked like chimneys, and were perfectly fine.

Now, not to be sarcastic but you tell me...does tobacco smoking cause cancer??? ;D

 

[henry]

According to the research I have seen, lung cancer has never been successfully induced in test animals through tobacco smoke alone.

You have probably heard of the experiments done with dogs. Gas masks are put over their faces and tobacco smoke is pumped into the masks. In no case that I have heard of have any of the animals ever contracted lung cancer. The only way animals have come down with it is when the tar is smeared directly on some of the tissue in their lungs.

 

[dant]

I guess I should not have been surprised knowing that the PTB
has almost total control of the herd mentality... and I thought
there might be *some* evidence out there, but I guess they
are well regulated...

Thanks for the information, and no, I did not know about the
smoking dog test. But I do remember seeing a smoking chimp
though! :)

Kind regards,
Dan

 

[Iconoclast]

i listened to an episode of the BBC radio gameshow "the unbelievable truth" recently and they mentioned that tobacco was used to fight the plague, which i found quite interesting.

A seventeenth-century English diarist by the name of Hearne wrote that during the Great Plague tobacco was considered such a medicinal boon that: 'Even children were obliged to smoak. And I remember that I heard formerly Tom Rogers, who was a yeoman beadle, say that when he was a schoolboy at Eton that year when the Plague raged all the boys of that school were obliged to smoak in the school every morning, and that he was never whipped so much in his life as he was one morning for not smoaking.'

:D