Smoking is... good?

[truth seeker]

I get chest pain from organic tobacco, but don't from regular cigarettes. Whats the deal with that?

Can you say what kind/brand of organic tobacco and paper and what kind/brand of cigarettes?

American Spirit original blend rolling tobacco. I normally use Rizla greens, but sometimes use reds. Chesterfield Red is the regular cigarette.

I also use AS (red) and Rizla but the blue variety because it's thinner. The only thing I can think of is that it's the potency of the tobacco that may be the issue. In other words, perhaps the Chesterfields are a weaker variety? Do you get this pain immediately after smoking AS or does it take a while (a few cigarettes)?

 

[Timey]

I get chest pain from organic tobacco, but don't from regular cigarettes. Whats the deal with that?

Can you say what kind/brand of organic tobacco and paper and what kind/brand of cigarettes?

American Spirit original blend rolling tobacco. I normally use Rizla greens, but sometimes use reds. Chesterfield Red is the regular cigarette.

I also use AS (red) and Rizla but the blue variety because it's thinner. The only thing I can think of is that it's the potency of the tobacco that may be the issue. In other words, perhaps the Chesterfields are a weaker variety? Do you get this pain immediately after smoking AS or does it take a while (a few cigarettes)?

It takes a while. I sometimes notice it if I'm lying down.

 

[Search]

Does anybody watch this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPtCZawoIbw&feature=related
Only 50% of commercial cigarette is tobacco and tobacco treated with sugar.

 

[Galaxia2002]

I get chest pain from organic tobacco, but don't from regular cigarettes. Whats the deal with that?

Can you say what kind/brand of organic tobacco and paper and what kind/brand of cigarettes?

American Spirit original blend rolling tobacco. I normally use Rizla greens, but sometimes use reds. Chesterfield Red is the regular cigarette.

I also use AS (red) and Rizla but the blue variety because it's thinner. The only thing I can think of is that it's the potency of the tobacco that may be the issue. In other words, perhaps the Chesterfields are a weaker variety? Do you get this pain immediately after smoking AS or does it take a while (a few cigarettes)?

It takes a while. I sometimes notice it if I'm lying down.

If you are in a process of switching from one kind to another that's normal, the lungs get habituated to one brand and when you change you get cough and sometimes pain. I recommend you NAC everyday to help to clean the lungs

 

[truth seeker]

I also use AS (red) and Rizla but the blue variety because it's thinner. The only thing I can think of is that it's the potency of the tobacco that may be the issue. In other words, perhaps the Chesterfields are a weaker variety? Do you get this pain immediately after smoking AS or does it take a while (a few cigarettes)?

It takes a while. I sometimes notice it if I'm lying down.

Well, you may first want to see a doctor to make sure that there's nothing more going on. If you go and it turns out that there isn't some medical issue, I'd suggest trying a milder variety if you don't want to stick with the Chesterfields or smoking less of the AS variety if that's possible.

 

[Atomas]

I'd been a non smoker for all my life, say more than 30 years, and I've started to smoke a few months ago once I read information on this thread. Various articles and experiences found on this forum helped me to change my attitude to smoking - gradually it became a bit suspicious to me why the system doesn't want to see people smoking and I found the answers here!

So I've started from couple of rolled cigs of AS per day. I experienced some dizziness and cough which was very intense during evenings. After couple of weeks I stopped smoking and decided to observe what happens to my caught. For some reasons it disappeared after a few days. Maybe the cough was also related to my health at that moment (because at the same time I was recovering from the outstanding flu symptoms) and/or the way how I used to smoke (these were rolled cigarettes without a filter and I tried to smoke it all till the very end of it). So now I'm active smoker for a two or so months again. Now I always drop off my cigarette away when it is about 2 cm long or more in order not to inhale all those concentrated tars in the end of the cigarette. This serves as some kind of a natural filter for me and my cough is gone now.

Hope this helps to those who has the similar problem and loves to experiment.

 

[truth seeker]

I'm glad you posted that Atomas - it reminded me of something I wanted to tell Timey a few days ago but forgot. Another possible difference between the cigarettes you (Timey) smoke could be that one has a filter and the other doesn't. That, in combination with the stronger tobacco may be why you were having problems.

 

[Atomas]

No worries Truth Seeker. You see, I started from the most mild AS hand-roll tobacco (yellow pack) I could find on a market and I began to cough.
http://www.tabak-brucker.de/themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=194611&source=2

I was afraid of the thought that because of this chronic cough which I had at this time I don't fall under smokers profile mentioned by Cs. But then I made a break and once my cough left me I moved to AS organic tobacco. What I can say - I don't cough any more and my immune system is stronger now and I'm less susceptible to getting cold or flue.

What worries me a bit is tars. How seriously we should pay attention to it? I read that usual filters might not be a good solution for this because when a cigarette burns all those fibers which compose a filter may fall into small pieces and get inside ones lungs. So the question could be if tars do serious damage to ones health and if yes, how we can protect ourselves from it if we make hand roll cigarettes?

Apologies if this question has been asked many times already - just let me know and I'll go through this thread pages once more.

 

[Timey]

I'm glad you posted that Atomas - it reminded me of something I wanted to tell Timey a few days ago but forgot. Another possible difference between the cigarettes you (Timey) smoke could be that one has a filter and the other doesn't. That, in combination with the stronger tobacco may be why you were having problems.

To be honest, truth seeker, I think its fear that's making me feel the pain. The propaganda, if that's what it is, is really effective. I go through these phases of worrying about all the horrible things happening to my lungs because of all the warning signs on the boxes and stuff. Having a doctor as a mother doesn't help either.
But, I think it would be best if I got it checked out. Maybe I should lay of the smokes if I am so afraid of 'em. Maybe I'm not a smoking profile.

No worries Truth Seeker. You see, I started from the most mild AS hand-roll tobacco (yellow pack) I could find on a market and I began to cough.
http://www.tabak-brucker.de/themes/kategorie/detail.php?artikelid=194611&source=2

I was afraid of the thought that because of this chronic cough which I had at this time I don't fall under smokers profile mentioned by Cs. But then I made a break and once my cough left me I moved to AS organic tobacco. What I can say - I don't cough any more and my immune system is stronger now and I'm less susceptible to getting cold or flue.

What worries me a bit is tars. How seriously we should pay attention to it? I read that usual filters might not be a good solution for this because when a cigarette burns all those fibers which compose a filter may fall into small pieces and get inside ones lungs. So the question could be if tars do serious damage to ones health and if yes, how we can protect ourselves from it if we make hand roll cigarettes?

Apologies if this question has been asked many times already - just let me know and I'll go through this thread pages once more.

I'm also concerned about tar. Sure, organic tobacco doesn't contain any chemical nasties, but the smoke will still produce tar in the lungs.

 

[anart]

To be honest, truth seeker, I think its fear that's making me feel the pain. The propaganda, if that's what it is, is really effective.

Just stop smoking, Timey - there is no reason to stress yourself out so much over something like this. Smoking is obviously not for you, or you'd not be having these issues.

 

[Timey]

To be honest, truth seeker, I think its fear that's making me feel the pain. The propaganda, if that's what it is, is really effective.

Just stop smoking, Timey - there is no reason to stress yourself out so much over something like this. Smoking is obviously not for you, or you'd not be having these issues.

Yea, probably would be best aye?

 

[Search]

To be honest, truth seeker, I think its fear that's making me feel the pain. The propaganda, if that's what it is, is really effective.

Just stop smoking, Timey - there is no reason to stress yourself out so much over something like this. Smoking is obviously not for you, or you'd not be having these issues.

Yea, probably would be best aye?

I was very worried about that stitch that I spoke about a couple of posts earlier. I even thought that it could be cancer. It just didn’t get out from my head, but I could not except the thought that I would give up smoking completely (Before I read an article about smoking, I smoked but I think it's a bad habit. I wanted to get rid of it but I couldn’t imagine giving it up completely. All this propaganda machine did its job :(). One day I went to doctor and did an X-ray of my lungs. The X-ray showed that I have no pathological changes. Then I started to read more about smoking ant its positive effects on web, here and on Sott. Faith starts to appear. What a universal thing - knowledge. Simple-when you know how . And the interesting thing is that when I do not read when I don’t gain knowledge, I begin to fell depression, get angrier, etc. That shows me that I not in a right direction, so to speak. When I’m gaining knowledge I am feeling more relaxed and it’s easier for me to think, I can make a choice with a clear mind.
So, back to stitch. After a little experiment, I realized that my stitch is almost because of chemicals in the paper. I recently tried mapacho. I really like this tobacco, it is the most delicious taste of tobacco among of I’ve tried. I tried smoke tobacco that I rolled before, I have a sharp tickling in my throat during smoking it (I didn’t noticed it before I tried mapacho), and it is very light for me. What's interesting that mapacho doesn’t make me sick when I smoke, for example 2 cigarettes for a short laps. (It sometimes happens that the body does not want to smoke but I do). But I smoke somewhere 7-15 cigarettes per day.
It seems to me that. as anart said, you should give up smoking. But also you can read more about smoking and its positive effects and then you can try again, of course if you want to. :)

 

[Timey]

To be honest, truth seeker, I think its fear that's making me feel the pain. The propaganda, if that's what it is, is really effective.

Just stop smoking, Timey - there is no reason to stress yourself out so much over something like this. Smoking is obviously not for you, or you'd not be having these issues.

Yea, probably would be best aye?

I was very worried about that stitch that I spoke about a couple of posts earlier. I even thought that it could be cancer. It just didn’t get out from my head, but I could not except the thought that I would give up smoking completely (Before I read an article about smoking, I smoked but I think it's a bad habit. I wanted to get rid of it but I couldn’t imagine giving it up completely. All this propaganda machine did its job :(). One day I went to doctor and did an X-ray of my lungs. The X-ray showed that I have no pathological changes. Then I started to read more about smoking ant its positive effects on web, here and on Sott. Faith starts to appear. What a universal thing - knowledge. Simple-when you know how . And the interesting thing is that when I do not read when I don’t gain knowledge, I begin to fell depression, get angrier, etc. That shows me that I not in a right direction, so to speak. When I’m gaining knowledge I am feeling more relaxed and it’s easier for me to think, I can make a choice with a clear mind.
So, back to stitch. After a little experiment, I realized that my stitch is almost because of chemicals in the paper. I recently tried mapacho. I really like this tobacco, it is the most delicious taste of tobacco among of I’ve tried. I tried smoke tobacco that I rolled before, I have a sharp tickling in my throat during smoking it (I didn’t noticed it before I tried mapacho), and it is very light for me. What's interesting that mapacho doesn’t make me sick when I smoke, for example 2 cigarettes for a short laps. (It sometimes happens that the body does not want to smoke but I do). But I smoke somewhere 7-15 cigarettes per day.
It seems to me that. as anart said, you should give up smoking. But also you can read more about smoking and its positive effects and then you can try again, of course if you want to. :)

Yes, I think I will try and see if I benefit.

 

[Search]

I forget to ask. Timey, have you tried to smoke another brand of cigarettes from store? And if so, do you have the similar effect as from the organic tobacco?

 

[Timey]

I forget to ask. Timey, have you tried to smoke another brand of cigarettes from store? And if so, do you have the similar effect as from the organic tobacco?

You know, its weird. Organic tobacco gives me a strange feeling that is almost like a stitch on the right side of my chest. But I think this is because I smoke for the sake of smoking with it. "Regular" cigarettes eventually begin to make my lungs feel heavy.
I think the problem with me is that I smoke when I don't need to. A smoke after a meal is very beneficial for me, as I cannot concentrate with food on the stomach, and the nicotine helps it settle, allowing me to get on with stuff. Similarly, if I have a lot of work to do, or have a busy day, cigarettes can help me concentrate. This is the same when I am tired. But, unfortunately, I have problems with self control. So I smoke when I don't need to; sometimes I chain smoke for no reason other than being "bored". Other times, if I smoke for the sake of smoking, it messes with my thinking, and sends me all skewif, and other times it makes me anxious, sending me stumbling all over my words. Smoking really is a double-edged sword with me, but it ultimately comes down to my own self-control and the situation.