Stories of Covid vaccination side effects or worse

[mabar]

Maybe Mexican or Latin American forum members could give advice about holes in local rules and laws as you need to know the rules very well in case you say no. If you plan to say no then you have to be prepared to fight with the aid of the rules

Here in Mexico, we are in the vaccination phase for education personnel, as the government's intention is to return to schools as soon as possible.

That’s why they are vaccinating teachers, several mexican States will return to classes at the end of May (with masks and sanitary measures) they are forcing things up in order to vaccinate children as well.
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According to the constitution, people would have to comply because the prospect of such law is for the benefit of the common well - that is the vaccine protects, helps etc - not particularities (people that do not trust in vaccines).

One important issue is, that this "vaccine" is not yet written at the vaccination booklet which is generally applied in the population from 0 to 18 years of age, especially on children from 0 to 12 years of age. And such list is mandatory since I remember, parents who do not want to comply, cheat.

Is not at the vaccination booklet within the National Vaccination Program because it had been just authotized by emergency, it had not been approved yet, so... theorically, no authoritiy can mandate anything. And, president and health authorities had mentioned that is by free will, free choice ..
BUT... by coercion, that's where they're forcing people... My sister, also a teacher, had already expressed that she was not going to apply it and at first there was no problem, but then the director of the private school where she works, sent her a letter in it was mentioned that her contract was in danger....

My sister gave in to the pressure.. It made me sad because she is also very tired of everything and she doesn't want to know anything anymore, going against the current is tough.

So, in this way the government washes its hands, allows coercion, allows psychological torture so the people will comply...

In the Mexican constitution, there is no law that speaks of the right of not to participate in medical or scientific experiments, says Lawyer Trueba. (see video below)

But we have rights recognized in all international treaties to which Mexico is a party, and one of them is the UN International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, to which Mexico is a party Lawyer Trueba continues and she mentions article 7 which states: "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. In particular, no one shall be subjected without his free consent to medical or scientific experimentation."

It is by this via that Lawyer Trueba there is a way to defend us from mandatory vaccinatation.

We will also have to be attentive to Dr. Reiner Fuellmich's lawsuit, because as far as I understand, they are doing it in such a way that it can be used by other countries, as a template.

Very good worth watching video. Only in Spanish, though.

 

[gottathink]

My reaction is that it is very saddening to see people realize something possibly isn't right, that they are being experimented on and lied to and that what the C's have said below from January of this year is looking to be the case.

“(Andromeda) Are they chips like we think of them, like computer chips? Or is it a higher technology?

A: Nano.”

Yes and it’s Pfizer that use proprietary lipid nanoparticles to deliver the mRNA component into the cell cytoplasm where the ribosomes pick it up.
It was on the Dark Horse podcast of Bret Weinstein, where his wife (who is a microbiologist) talks about the lipid nanoparticles being used in the mRNA shots being proprietary and we don’t know what’s in it.

 

[aragorn]

Here is a compilation of magnet videos, pictures and other information: Magnet Medley - compliation of magnets sticking the convid 1984 injection sites...

That's certainly weird! I think we need more evidence before believing this, since people do all kinds of things just for clickbait/views. However, if this phenomenon is real, it sure is a side effect that the PTB didn't see coming! Let's wait and see if more evidence will surface.

 

[Woodsman]

That's certainly weird! I think we need more evidence before believing this, since people do all kinds of things just for clickbait/views. However, if this phenomenon is real, it sure is a side effect that the PTB didn't see coming! Let's wait and see if more evidence will surface.

The only metals a magnet can stick to like that are iron, cobalt and nickel.

Aluminum and copper and a couple others will react to magnetism, but only when the magnet is in motion. Once it stops moving, the electrical currents stop and the magnetic effects also stop.

So...

Unless these shots are putting a fairly significant amount of iron, cobalt or nickel into the subject, I don't see how this effect can happen.

There is iron in blood, but it's just not enough to make any difference. The "Action Lab" guy demonstrates...

I'm not sure what to make of this. Perhaps somebody with one of those neodymium magnets should test the effect on somebody who has been vaccinated.

 

[EGVG]

“(Andromeda) Are they chips like we think of them, like computer chips? Or is it a higher technology?

A: Nano.”

Yes and it’s Pfizer that use proprietary lipid nanoparticles to deliver the mRNA component into the cell cytoplasm where the ribosomes pick it up.
It was on the Dark Horse podcast of Bret Weinstein, where his wife (who is a microbiologist) talks about the lipid nanoparticles being used in the mRNA shots being proprietary and we don’t know what’s in it.

If they are in fact, using nano chip technology in the Pfizer vaccine I would bet they wouldn't list it in the INCI. Nano lipids are used in a ton of other products! I would think if there are chips it must be some kind of technology we do not know about. Also, this would explain why they don't want to share the patents with governments, in other pandemics/epidemics like the HIV one the Pharma companies shared their patents and still made a huge profit. I think they can't share this time because there are things they can't explain to regular manufacturers. There has to be something else, the lipids are carriers like you said. It's all speculation, we don't really know anything about nano chips in vaccines.

This are the ingredients taken from the FDA website: "The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine includes the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose. "

Nothing too wild or unexpected.

 

[Lilou]

I came across these magnet videos earlier today and was wondering if it's true. I was thinking about testing it out on someone. The manager at one of our stores told me she took the Pfizer jab last week. So will see if she's willing.

Today, nearly all my patients had been vaccinated. One had a button pinned to his shirt that said "proudly vaccinated for Covid". When I failed to notice the button, he pointed it out to me.

I'm becoming a bit concerned about spike protein shedding from all these vaccinated people. Or worse, a big fat superbug, that's really deadly. The world has gone mad!

 

[EGVG]

I came across these magnet videos earlier today and was wondering if it's true. I was thinking about testing it out on someone. The manager at one of our stores told me she took the Pfizer jab last week. So will see if she's willing.

Today, nearly all my patients had been vaccinated. One had a button pinned to his shirt that said "proudly vaccinated for Covid". When I failed to notice the button, he pointed it out to me.

I'm becoming a bit concerned about spike protein shedding from all these vaccinated people. Or worse, a big fat superbug, that's really deadly. The world has gone mad!

You want to experiment with your friend? That's not cool if you ask me.

spike protein shedding

How is this even a thing? It's impossible. Like, how?

 

[Lilou]

@EVGV, what's really not cool is she took the vaccine, despite no pressure from the work place. It is afterall emergency use only. She may have had pressure from her family though, because she said she did it to protect her parents.

As for shedding, there is this from Americas frontline doctors . org

"The vaccine produces many trillions of particles of spike proteins in the recipient. Patients who are vaccinated can shed some of these (spike protein) particles to close contacts. The particles have the ability to create inflammation and disease in these contacts. In other words, the spike proteins are pathogenic (“disease causing”) just like the full virus. What is most worrisome is that a person’s body is being suddenly flooded with 13 trillion of these particles and the spike proteins bind more tightly than the fully intact virus. Because of the biomimicry (similarity) on the spike, shedding appears to be causing wide variety of autoimmune disease (where the body attacks its own tissue) in some persons. Worldwide cases of pericarditis, shingles, pneumonia, blood clots in the extremities and brain, Bell’s Palsy, vaginal bleeding and miscarriages have been reported in persons who are near persons who have been vaccinated. In addition, we know the spike proteins can cross the blood brain barrier, unlike traditional vaccines."

 

[Woodsman]

You want to experiment with your friend? That's not cool if you ask me.

Asking to see if a magnet will stick to a person's arm is not cool?

How so?

 

[gottathink]

If they are in fact, using nano chip technology in the Pfizer vaccine I would bet they wouldn't list it in the INCI. Nano lipids are used in a ton of other products! I would think if there are chips it must be some kind of technology we do not know about. Also, this would explain why they don't want to share the patents with governments, in other pandemics/epidemics like the HIV one the Pharma companies shared their patents and still made a huge profit. I think they can't share this time because there are things they can't explain to regular manufacturers. There has to be something else, the lipids are carriers like you said. It's all speculation, we don't really know anything about nano chips in vaccines.

This are the ingredients taken from the FDA website: "The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine includes the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose. "

Nothing too wild or unexpected.

True accept we don’t really know as it’s proprietary lipid nanoparticle combinations. And note they say “includes” the following ingredients not “contains” the following ingredients. Suggesting there is more than what’s listed.

This from Wikipedia
“A PEGylated lipid is used as an excipient in both the Moderna vaccine and the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. Both RNA vaccines consist of Messenger RNA, or mRNA, encased in a bubble of oily molecules called lipids. Proprietary lipid technology is used for each.”

PEGylation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Webster’s definition of proprietary:

Definition of proprietary (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : one that possesses, owns, or holds exclusive right to something
specifically : PROPRIETOR sense 1
2 : something that is used, produced, or marketed under exclusive legal right of the inventor or maker
specifically Definition of proprietary (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : one that possesses, owns, or holds exclusive right to something
specifically : PROPRIETOR sense 1
2 : something that is used, produced, or marketed under exclusive legal right of the inventor or maker
specifically : a drug (such as a patent medicine) that is protected by secrecy, patent, or copyright against free competition as to name, product, composition, or process of manufacture
3 : a business secretly owned by and run as a cover for an intelligence organization

 

[EGVG]

@EVGV, what's really not cool is she took the vaccine, despite no pressure from the work place. It is afterall emergency use only. She may have had pressure from her family though, because she said she did it to protect her parents.

As for shedding, there is this from Americas frontline doctors . org

"The vaccine produces many trillions of particles of spike proteins in the recipient. Patients who are vaccinated can shed some of these (spike protein) particles to close contacts. The particles have the ability to create inflammation and disease in these contacts. In other words, the spike proteins are pathogenic (“disease causing”) just like the full virus. What is most worrisome is that a person’s body is being suddenly flooded with 13 trillion of these particles and the spike proteins bind more tightly than the fully intact virus. Because of the biomimicry (similarity) on the spike, shedding appears to be causing wide variety of autoimmune disease (where the body attacks its own tissue) in some persons. Worldwide cases of pericarditis, shingles, pneumonia, blood clots in the extremities and brain, Bell’s Palsy, vaginal bleeding and miscarriages have been reported in persons who are near persons who have been vaccinated. In addition, we know the spike proteins can cross the blood brain barrier, unlike traditional vaccines."

No shot.

 

[EGVG]

Asking to see if a magnet will stick to a person's arm is not cool?

How so?

For starters, the videos are fake. Second, if a magnet would really stick to someone's arm because of metals in the bloodstream you would be actually bursting you friends vein vessels and destroying their red blood cells and cause a possible thrombosis at worse. Not cool if you ask me. Why wouldn't you experiment on yourself first? @Lilou

 

[EGVG]

True accept we don’t really know as it’s proprietary lipid nanoparticle combinations. And note they say “includes” the following ingredients not “contains” the following ingredients. Suggesting there is more than what’s listed.

This from Wikipedia
“A PEGylated lipid is used as an excipient in both the Moderna vaccine and the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. Both RNA vaccines consist of Messenger RNA, or mRNA, encased in a bubble of oily molecules called lipids. Proprietary lipid technology is used for each.”

PEGylation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Webster’s definition of proprietary:

Definition of proprietary (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : one that possesses, owns, or holds exclusive right to something
specifically : PROPRIETOR sense 1
2 : something that is used, produced, or marketed under exclusive legal right of the inventor or maker
specifically Definition of proprietary (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : one that possesses, owns, or holds exclusive right to something
specifically : PROPRIETOR sense 1
2 : something that is used, produced, or marketed under exclusive legal right of the inventor or maker
specifically : a drug (such as a patent medicine) that is protected by secrecy, patent, or copyright against free competition as to name, product, composition, or process of manufacture
3 : a business secretly owned by and run as a cover for an intelligence organization

True! We don't know what the nano particles or nano robots really are. It could be anything, it could work by signaling our own DNA to make organic nanobots from our own body cells, there's a million ways we could imagine this happening, but we just don't know.

 

[Lilou]

@EVGV you are correct that caution should be advised. My knee jerk reaction was to just test it out, but it's a better idea to research more first. I cannot test myself, as I didn't take a Pfizer shot.

 

[Woodsman]

For starters, the videos are fake.

How do you know that?

I'm inclined to think you are right, but even the authoritarian source, "Snopes" was unable to confirm their claim of "False" beyond "because we said so" conjecture.

Second, if a magnet would really stick to someone's arm because of metals in the bloodstream you would be actually bursting you friends vein vessels and destroying their red blood cells and cause a possible thrombosis at worse. Not cool if you ask me. Why wouldn't you experiment on yourself first? @Lilou

That strikes me as Twitter-grade offense-hunting logic. Hundreds of millions of social media snippets have handily demonstrated that anybody can, on the fly, invent rational-sounding (in immediate 256 character isolation) but otherwise utterly nonsensical reasons for holding silly positions on any subject under the sun.

Asking to place a magnet on somebody's arm isn't a violation. If they say 'no' then you don't do it.

To experiment on myself, I'd first need an armful of drugs which we do have reason to believe is a bad idea, (based on far more than "because I said so").

It seems you are opposed to learning more about this through rational discovery. Why is that?