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Video: Driver tasered for refusing to sign ticket

"Obey or you will go down." Obviously the guy chose to go down, which imo is a good sign; ie, not giving in to an illegal demand to sign the ticket. From what I've been told, whenever you sign any legal document, which is what a speeding ticket is, you have given your consent to whatever that document contains. In this case, by signing the ticket the driver would have agreed that he was exceeding the speed limit. By refusing to do so, he is saying that he was not speeding. Under contract law, one cannot be coerced or forced in any way to sign any document ever, or to incriminate oneself. The cop was clearly breaking the law by placing the driver under arrest for refusing to sign the ticket. And by all indications the cop should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon as he had no right to place the driver under arrest, much less taser the guy and threaten the passenger with being tasered. But unfortunately, the cop will probably come up with some cockamamie story or lie, get a slap on the wrist, and do it again.
A few years ago I was the passenger in a car that was stopped for speeding and the driver refused to sign the ticket. The cop initially said that by signing it would not be an admission of guilt. But the driver knew better and told the cop that they would have to indict him. The cop said that he would be receiving a summons in the mail, which he never received and the was the last we heard of it. Then again, this is in Canada, and long before the RCMP had tasers. But it might be a different story today.
 
Video: Driver tasered for refusing to sign ticket

Redrock12 wrote:

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...From what I've been told, whenever you sign any legal document, which is what a speeding ticket is, you have given your consent to whatever that document contains. In this case, by signing the ticket the driver would have agreed that he was exceeding the speed limit...

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It's likely that you're wrong about that last point, although one would have to see an actual ticket from that state to be certain.

Usually, either directly above or directly below the line on which a person is to sign, there is a statement like, "Signing this ticket is not an admission of guilt."

In short, the reason that a cop insists that you sign a ticket is so that there is proof that he actually issued the ticket. It's analogous to the requirement that one sign a credit card receipt in a store.

BTW, the above does not mean that I consider that the use of a taser is acceptable in such a circumstance.

Martin
 
Video: Driver tasered for refusing to sign ticket

NugaBurd said:
It's likely that you're wrong about that last point, although one would have to see an actual ticket from that state to be certain.

Usually, either directly above or directly below the line on which a person is to sign, there is a statement like, "Signing this ticket is not an admission of guilt."

In short, the reason that a cop insists that you sign a ticket is so that there is proof that he actually issued the ticket. It's analogous to the requirement that one sign a credit card receipt in a store.

BTW, the above does not mean that I consider that the use of a taser is acceptable in such a circumstance.

Martin
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Well, i do not know how it is working in the usa but here in Canada when you sign the ticket , it does mean that you recognized that you are guilty. When a policeman gives you a ticket, you do not have to sign it. On the ticket, there is a place that if you sign there, it means that you are guilty and you have to pay the fine; and there is another place that if you sign there it means that you are objecting to that ticket. I got one two months ago because i did not put my feet on the ground at a stop when i was biking.

As far as the credit card goes, i do think that as soon as you signe the paper, it means that you recongize to have done that particular purchase.
 
Video: Driver tasered for refusing to sign ticket

Redrock12 of Canada wrote: << The cop was clearly breaking the law by placing the driver under arrest for refusing to sign the ticket. >>

Hmmm, TV programs in the USA show again and again that the police arrest you if you refuse to sign a ticket. It's sign or go downtown, that's the choice they give you.

In this case, the driver didn't sign and the trooper went into the process of making an arrest. The driver didn't really quite recognize that they had entered that phase of the encounter and assumed he could continue to speak reasonably with the trooper. But the trooper was just running his program. Once he registers refusal to sign, he issues an instruction to assume the arrest posture. If his command is not obeyed, his program encounters an exception and he is in unknown territory. He stresses at the exception and freaks out because the program is not being satisfied. The taser comes out.
 
Next-generation Taser is going wireless

_http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/281670
Until now, the electric-shock gun consisted of two barbed darts attached to wires that shoot out and strike the victim, immobilizing the person with 50,000 volts of electricity, causing severe pain and intense muscle contraction.

But the wires could only extend a few metres. With the new "extended range electronic projectile," or XREP, the Taser has been turned into a kind of self-contained shotgun shell and can be fired, wire-free, from a standard shotgun, which police typically have in their arsenal already.

The first electrode hooks on to the target, the second electrode falls and makes contact elsewhere on the body, completing the circuit and activating the shock. It can blast someone as far as 30 metres away, and, unlike the current stun guns, whose shock lasts five seconds, the XREP lasts 20 seconds, enough time to "take the offender into custody without risking injury to officers."

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Next-generation Taser is going wireless

"A stun gun whose shock last five seconds" have already cause enough death as we have seen. It is shuddering to think about what damage XREP can do with its shock that lasts 20 seconds. Instant death, I believe.

It's just sick...
 
Next-generation Taser is going wireless

One can only imagine what is currently on the drawing boards, under the rubric of "non lethal". Pain and suffering is a growth industry.
 
Next-generation Taser is going wireless

Oh my god, well i wonder to myself now what fun gadgets the PTB have under wraps 'in case of an emergency'
 
Sick Weapon

Locksmith said:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292271,00.html

Flashlight Weapon Makes Targets Throw Up

Tuesday, August 07, 2007

It looks like a big flashlight — but it's really a nonlethal weapon designed to make you sick.

Intelligent Optical Systems, Inc., of Torrance, Calif., has been granted a contract by the Department of Homeland Security to develop what it calls the "LED Incapacitator," according to a DHS online newsletter.

The handheld device using light-emitting diodes to emit super-bright pulses of light at rapidly changing wavelengths, causing disorientation, nausea and even vomiting in whomever it's pointed at.
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This has to rank right down there with the TASER (http://www.taser.com/Pages/default.aspx) and rent-a-thug Blackwater on humanity and productivity scales.

I note from TASER's website that the CEO is so proud of his work that he puts forth the MIB image: He dresses in all black with the letters TASER stitched with white thread on the collar of a custom-made dress shirt. No doubt he want to fits right in with his "customers."

These people have at least two strikes against them when surmising their psychological makeup; they have without remorse promoted the production and marketing of devices that terrorize and inflict great pain, and they have scurried up the corporate pole. This is not meant to make blanket judgments about successful entrepreneurs, but one should wonder about them when their produce is the proliferation such horrible devices.

Makes me cringe!
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Does anyone miss the days when they use to just whip the slaves of society in line? Now they will be doing it to all the global slave population with the none lethal, active denial type weapons. The population get's out of line and instead of whipping them into line, they will use these, in many cases from remote distances. The future looks bright indeed.
 
Air safety proposal: shock-bracelets controlled by flight attendants

_http://amsam.org/2008/03/air-safety-proposal-shock-bracelets.html

"A method of providing air travel security for passengers traveling via an aircraft comprises situating a remotely activatable electric shock device on each of the passengers in position to deliver a disabling electrical shock when activated; and arming the electric shock devices for subsequent selective activation by a selectively operable remote control disposed within the aircraft. The remotely activatable electric shock devices each have activation circuitry responsive to the activating signal transmitted from the selectively operable remote control means. The activated electric shock device is operable to deliver the disabling electrical shock to that passenger."
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Air safety proposal: shock-bracelets controlled by flight attendants

meat robot said:
"The activated electric shock device is operable to deliver the disabling electrical shock to that passenger."
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I'm sure there's nothing to worry about. No doubt the "shock" will be just as non-lethal and harmless as a taser gun... and will be used just as responsibly by those in "authority".... :rolleyes:
 
Air safety proposal: shock-bracelets controlled by flight attendants

Check out this promotional video from Lamperd (official web-site: _http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com), the company that's making these things:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7yJXhxF1mM

Electronic ID bracelet:
- more convenient to the public
- replaces need for ticket by containing all passenger information
- tracks passengers throughout terminal, including their luggage by 'tagging' it to ensure no tampering occurs after check-in
- EMD (electro-muscular disruption) technology enables crew members to quickly and effectively subdue hijackers by rendering "even the most elite and aggressive terrorist completely immobile for several minutes"

:shock:
 
Air safety proposal: shock-bracelets controlled by flight attendants

Wow. Just when you think it couldn't get any more Orwellian...
 
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