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[Peter]

Open letter to Roberto Santiago regarding UF Tasering incident

Also, my pet peeve: the difference between imply and infer. Think of it this way:

Imply = to hint or suggest or "toss out a suggested meaning" (like a ball)

Infer = to "catch the meaning" that has been tossed by another or to derive a suggested meaning from something that has been said.

When you wrote: "as if quantum theory or the theory of relativity infers something kooky", I think you meant "implies".

Ahh, difference and distinction. The distinction was not intended by me.
If only I hadn't gotten thrown out of high school.
Wanna, be my editor, Laura? - just kidding, kinda.
I do a bit of internet activism with such letters.


[edit]
How do I get this BBCode tag to work for me - I'm such a dummy sometimes.
[edit 2]
answered my own question. I'm a little less a dummy than I thought, maybe.

 

[Happyville]

Man dies after being Tasered by police at Vancouver airport

You read an article like this and ask, Where the heck was the tipping point? Are we past the point of no return? Are things going to get worse? Are the "good" people out there still "hoping" that these events are isolated?

Here is the SOTT news article, that expands on the earlier article posted above...

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/142475-Horrific-Defenseless-man-tasered-to-death-by-police

 

[Happyville]

Man dies after being Tasered by police at Vancouver airport

Something stinks...

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/142599-Poland-demands-answers-from-Canada-on-immigrant-s-taser-death

The RCMP is mum... But it seems as though some-one caught the exchange on a camera video, which has not been released... hmmmm

Police and a witness offered conflicting accounts about the number of Taser jolts Dziekanski received.

RCMP insist the man was zapped twice, but Sima Ashrafinia, who was at the airport and recorded the incident on her cellphone, told CBC News on Oct. 15 that RCMP officers stunned Dziekanski four times.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/10/25/bc-taser.html

Also when this story was first reported, they reported to know very little about this man except that he was "unidentified" and that he was tazzed about 1 HOUR after his plane laned.

Few other details have been disclosed other than the man spoke an Eastern European language and a flight from Poland touched down about an hour before the incident,

Then after 2 weeks, it is reported that Dziekanski was tazered more than 9 HOURS after his plane laned...

Dziekanski had become agitated after waiting more than nine hours to meet his mother who was looking for him in the terminal

This really stinks...

 

[neema]

Again! Man dies after Taser shock by police at Vancouver airport

I just wanted to comment, that on the local Vancouver BC news radio broadcast today, they are taking a poll On “Do you think there should be a moratorium on the use of Taser stun guns?” in regards to the incident with the poor polish man who died because of the taser gun. I know that online polls are probably of no use and they might not even do anything but who knows. I voted and made a comment. Wanted to relay the web page if anyone else wants to also make a comment. The page is _http://www.news1130.com/ and just midway in the center of the page they have the “News1130 Listener Poll”.

This is the comment I sent.

“Of curse there has to be a moratorium on the use of this vicious weapon. Let’s not kid ourselves, what do you do to a person when they are struck by a lightning bolt? The person is immediately taken to the hospital and is called lucky, that is if they live and don’t have any permanent damage. I mean what happened to good old police work, what are we paying these cops to do, openly torture people! What ever happened to civility and sanity? How many innocent people must die before any action is taken?”

ps the original sott article is here:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/141740-Again-Man-dies-after-Taser-shock-by-police-at-Vancouver-airport

 

[fabric]

Again! Man dies after Taser shock by police at Vancouver airport

That's a good comment you can post it on signs too if you like~~

 

[Laura]

Again! Man dies after Taser shock by police at Vancouver airport

Unbelievably, the results are "Yes=52%" and "no=48%"

Either the poll is being stacked, or people simply do no realize that next time it could be them or someone they love.

Could you please post about this in this thread:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7341

I'll delete this additional thread tonight.

 

[neema]

Man dies after being Tasered by police at Vancouver airport

I didn’t realize there was a thread already about this incident. I apologize for making a new thread.

Something stinks...

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/142599-Poland-demands-answers-from-Canada-on-immigrant-s-taser-death

The RCMP is mum... But it seems as though some-one caught the exchange on a camera video, which has not been released... hmmmm

I also heard on the radio that the person who made the video, initially gave it to the cops, but now wants it back so it can be released to the public. The police have said they can’t do that because of the “ongoing investigation”. Ya right. As if releasing it would hinder their investigation (covering up).

Dziekanski waited for his mother in the airport's luggage area, but she was not allowed to enter the secure zone and could not find anyone to tell her if her son had arrived, said Kosteckyj. After several hours, she left.

I know the airport very well and it is not a big airport, so the staff there could have helped easily. Apparently the mother of the poor guy made several inquires about her son and how he couldn’t speak English. The staff just kept telling her they will look into it. The son was there for more than 10 hours! And I believe it was late at night so the airport must have been deserted. I heard the mother in an interview she gave, it just brakes your hart to hear her, of how the son was the only family member she had and how they had big plans for their future. It was hard for me just to listen so I can only imagine what she is going through. She could be anyone’s grandmother, why must incidents like this happen directly to people before they care? Well I know the answer but it’s just hard to accept our world has come to this.

 

[rylek]

10 hours frustrated by airport bureaucracy, now Dead By Taser

"I've been in touch with witnesses. I have viewed a video, which was taken by a bystander, which is not going to be released until at least the time of the inquest. From my observation, the interaction between the police and this individual, who didn't appear to me to be posing a danger to anybody at the time … was 24 seconds, roughly, before he was tasered," Walter Kosteckyj said, adding the airport surveillance videos also won't likely be released until an inquest is held.

The video can now be seen here: _http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2007/11/15/milewski.canada.man.tasered.cbc

Note the comments of the police spokesman. He says that the video is "only one piece of evidence and it's one person's view. It's through the viewfinder of one individual."

To me he's saying: "Don't believe what you see with your own eyes. Don't use your own judgment and common sense. This is not fascism. Just blindly believe in what we tell you.

The whole thing is just sickening and shows the level of hystericization in Canada and how any situation slightly deviating from the norm is treated without any discernment. See a dazed and disoriented person? Just taser him.

 

[Laura]

10 hours frustrated by airport bureaucracy, now Dead By Taser

(quoting policeman) "only one piece of evidence and it's one person's view. It's through the viewfinder of one individual."

In other words, this idiot believes that if other cameras were filming the incident, they would have recorded something different. THAT'S psychopathy for you.

 

[dant]

10 hours frustrated by airport bureaucracy, now Dead By Taser

If you act strange, disoriented, do not do what the police
tell you to do, they will taze, beat/kick the snot out of you
first and ask questions later, dead or alive.

Best not to be mentally disabled, schizophrenic, autistic, deaf,
or disoriented... because Police will demand complete authority
to their command, if any warning was given at all. There is
no if and no buts about it. Police believe they have absolute
authority, power, and law to do whatever they believe is right,
osis.

If you watched 'Cops', you might sense that the police likes to
find the least path of resistance to get the job done as quickly
as possible, 'out of sight and out of mind' and it is interesting
the when the "job" is completed, they congratulates all the members
of the group and a dose of 'power tripping'! Wow, what a TRIP,
osis.

Reminds me of James Phillip Chasses Jr. of Portland OR and
others.

 

[rylek]

10 hours frustrated by airport bureaucracy, now Dead By Taser

(quoting policeman) "only one piece of evidence and it's one person's view. It's through the viewfinder of one individual."

In other words, this idiot believes that if other cameras were filming the incident, they would have recorded something different. THAT'S psychopathy for you.

That's exactly it.

Also, here is the full video of the incident: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6nx0Cx3uMk

 

[PopHistorian]

Video: Driver tasered for refusing to sign ticket

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/144157-Video-Driver-tasered-for-refusing-to-sign-ticket

I think it is interesting that this video is a news story on CNN today. My guess is that it is being promoted on TV to send a message to the public, "obey or you will go down." It doesn't matter much if there is "debate" over it or if it causes public outrage. The message is still delivered.

 

[GRiM]

Video: Driver tasered for refusing to sign ticket

The first thing that popped up in my mind when I saw it was, "this is not a clear case of taser miss-use " ie "did he stop or not??!". The debate, if it ever starts would revolve around if he did or did not comply, not the fact that being tortured with a taser for a minute "offence"/not understanding.


On a sidenote, it angers me very much to see the girl (and the man to some degree) get traumatized over such a idiotic thing as a ticket. She is very suggestible as she is in a shockstate and that memory will be imprinted for a long time :(




Q: (L) What kind of weapons do the Nephilim use to do their
"enforcing?"
A: Stun guns.

 

[rylek]

Video: Driver tasered for refusing to sign ticket

One thing that I observed was how the driver was insisting on his rights to be read to him, as if that would change that fact that the cop can do whatever he wants with him.

This dissonance that can be seen here - between just saying something (what your rights are in theory) and what is actually happening (being taser on the side of the road for no good reason, imo). That it doesn't matter what your rights are on paper (at least the ones that haven't been taken away yet), it doesn't change that fact that you are at the mercy of a taser wielding cop who can, on the slightest pretext, taser you as much as he wants. As we're seeing more and more often.

I wonder whether Americans in the near future, while being herded into FEMA concentration camps, will still be calling out for their rights to be read to them.

My guess is that it is being promoted on TV to send a message to the public, "obey or you will go down." It doesn't matter much if there is "debate" over it or if it causes public outrage. The message is still delivered.

I agree. The message is message: forget about freedom and 'democracy'. We don't do that around here anymore. We don't even pretend anymore.

 

[Laura]

Video: Driver tasered for refusing to sign ticket

Did the guy ever sign the ticket as demanded? Did the taser get the cop what he wanted?