The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!


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While driving, the last shot I had posted above was of the mountains in snow, June 16th. Here is the same general area July 6th. Yesterday's high was close to 30 0c and today it was rather cool, only rising into the low teens.

Looking west (NE aspect 116/151 Lat/Long) - the snow is melting very slowly. Frost at elevations will come again in late August, 50 days from now, and snow in early September a dozen days later, typically.

Seen here is not glacier snow per se, it is snow on the front face and in bowels. West aspects would look less. However, have not got up to see glacier snow yet - much of that is from the last Wisconsinan Fraser glaciation added upon the Cordilleran Ice Sheet. It seems to have maxed out 14,000 years ago. It also seems to me there was some later period build-up from the earlier big fast melt discussed in many threads and how that likely came to be.

It is July and my mind was on firewood :lol:




Verkhoyansk (Yakutia, Russia) is known as one of the coldest places on Earth. This is one of the territories where mammoths used to live; the mammoth is also depicted on the coat of arms and on the monument in the city center.

But in 2020 this place became known not only for the cold and mammoths, but also for the unprecedented heat. On June 20, 2020, the highest temperature was recorded in Verkhoyansk + 38.0C.
On July 21, 2020, another record + 34.9С was broken.
In total, during the summer of 2020, 14 days were recorded in Verkhoyansk with temperatures above + 30C.


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I have a question - if someone knows was there ever a discussion about the Sun event that happened on the March 11th, 2012. and if Cs were ever asked about it? I used the search but couldn't find anything specific, maybe I'm doing it wrong. There's a new video about it on MrMBB333 yt channel, it shows as if something detached itself from the Sun, very fascinating! It starts at 1:22


Curious Beagle

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I have a question. C mentioned 1000 yrs of transition, is that the length of the mini ice age? That is quite long most people will either died or migrate to tropic. Not enough land for agriculture or city building (you still need to save space for nature/forest to sustain civ). Not to mentioned lack of rain (Cooler weather in general), increased salinity in the ocean, due to water pilling up as snow. Basically low on everything needed to sustain civilization, natural resources, food, space or infrastructure.


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the last''little ice age''lasted about 400 years but it is all wheels within wheels , lots of cycles all culminating now , the Cs said like a biorythm chart we are coming up for a'' triple bad day '' '' The day that the cycle switches from plus to minus or minus to plus is a critical day. It is defined as critical because you are neither up nor down, but in a state of limbo.''
an ice age this century is a given ,imho
how long it will last ? who knows it could be 40y , 120 y, 400y or the whole 120,000y full blown ice age

there is also the ongoing pole excursion and upcoming micro nova of our sun
fun times ahead


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Here is the skinny from The Old Farmers Almanac for Winter 2020/2021 (US/Canada).

Note their predictions carries with it a rising temperature trend:

What’s Shaping the Weather?
We are currently transitioning from Solar Cycle 24 to Solar Cycle 25. Cycle 24 was the smallest in more than 100 years and possibly the smallest since the Dalton Minimum in the early 1800s, while Cycle 25 is expected to also bring very low solar activity.

Although low levels of solar activity have historically been associated with cooler temperatures, on average, across Earth, we believe that rising temperature trends mean that the winter will not be extremely cold.

For the United States, we predict that recent warming trends will dominate in the eastern and northern parts of the United States in the coming winter, with below-normal average temperatures limited to the western portion of the nation. Most of Canada will have a cold and snowy winter. However, rising temperature trends mean that the winter will not bring extreme cold; instead, it will be closer to normal.


Winter Weather Extended Forecast

If you were hoping for a reprieve from harsh winter weather this year, we have some news that just might make you smile. We’re predicting a light winter for most of us here in the United States, with warmer-than-normal temperatures in the forecast for a large part of the country.

Uncommonly chilly temperatures will be limited mostly to the western states and northeastern New England. Specifically, winter will be colder than normal in Maine; the Intermountain, Desert Southwest, and Pacific Southwest regions; and eastern Hawaii and above normal elsewhere.

On the precipitation side of things, expect “wet” to be a wintertime constant, with rain or average to below-average snowfall to be the standard throughout most of the country.

Specifically, precipitation will be below normal from Delmarva into North Carolina; in the southern Appalachians, Georgia, and Florida from the Ohio Valley westward to the Pacific and southward to the Gulf and Mexico; and in western Hawaii and above or near normal elsewhere.

Snowfall will be greater than normal in the Northeast, Wisconsin, Upper Michigan, the High Plains, and northern Alaska and below normal in most other areas that receive snow.

Canadian Winter Weather Forecast 2020-2021

Winter Weather Extended Forecast

The 2021 Old Farmer’s Almanac Canadian Edition is calling for below-normal winter temperatures through most of the country. However, it’s still winter and expect frigid and frosty weather!

The exception will be in Atlantic Canada and the Prairies, which will experience above-normal temperatures.

Precipitation will be above normal in all of the Commonwealth. Snowfall will be much greater than normal from Quebec westward through most of the Prairies and close to normal elsewhere.

So, while the Atlantic Canada and the Prairies may feel some relief from winter’s chill, they–like the rest of the country—will see lots of rain, snow, and sleet.

Areas from Alberta eastward to Quebec should brace for a virtually continual “Snow Train” that will be carrying a series of winter storms throughout the season.

Edit: added 'Old'


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In parts of BCs southern interior it has been hot, very hot, since mid July following this photo of snow in the mountains taken July 6th. There were days (without wildfires) in the high 30's, and a day or two touching 40 C. Curiously, mid way through at around the full moon phase, temps one morning at my place hit lows of 3 C. Of course, daylight hours are getting shorter and there is overnight recovery, however a recent lightning storm pass initiated fires in the area (and also brought 'some' needed precipitation), particularly the Penticton area.

Back to the mountain photo above from July 6th, here is the same mountain - and same general area, August 16th. Given the heat wave, and as said before, it is now mere weeks away from snow possibly redeveloping. Thus, much of this snow will not melt, so by the end of the 2021 winter it will have, as a recorded snowpack, both 2019/2020 snow underneath - I'm guessing there is 2018/2019 snow already present, too:

And here are two more rom August 14th:




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