The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!


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Funny you mention contrails, because the last couple of days since temperature dropped here in east Germany we have a lot of contrails!
Cargo planes have gotten louder, I swear, as if the new atmosphere were conducting sound a lot better with its new composition. Normally those planes almost couldn't be heard in the past, they were a 'barely audible colorful background noise' at most. Are they flying lower now, because of changed the atmosphere?! Annoying as heck!!


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Meanwhile, I'm sure the global warming nutjobs will spin this as global freezing due to global warming. And meanwhile, they keep on trying to think up ways to further cool the planet???

We sure do live in Bizarro World.
Just saw the following; can I call 'em or what??

Revisiting the Mystery of Stratospheric Cooling

Anthony Watts / 1 day ago September 29, 2018

This paper claims that stratospheric cooling is the work of “greenhouse gases”. Saying: “An extended satellite temperature record and the chemistry‐climate models show weaker global stratospheric cooling over 1998–2016 compared to 1979–1997.”


The Living Force
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There is another article on What Up With That where the stratospheric cooling is being blamed on anthropogenic global warming
Anthony Watts / August 4, 2014
There’s no predicted hotspot in the upper troposphere, and cooling of the stratosphere is now the new indicator. New paper finds “greenhouse cooling” of the stratosphere over past 52 years

A new paper published in Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics finds the stratosphere of the Northern Hemisphere cooled over the past 52 years due to the increase of greenhouse gases. The paper suggests that stratospheric cooling is a “more suitable” signal of anthropogenic global warming than trying to find a mid-troposphere hot spot (which was previously considered to be the definitive “fingerprint” of man-made global warming, but still has not been found despite millions of weather balloon and satellite observations over the past 60 years): [...]
In case the upper layers of gas surrounding the Earth drop lower due to cooling, one might expect that the altitudes at which the incoming space particles like meteors will meet resistance from these gases also will decreases. In other words, they might light up a slightly lower altitudes.


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There is another article on What Up With That where the stratospheric cooling is being blamed on anthropogenic global warming

In case the upper layers of gas surrounding the Earth drop lower due to cooling, one might expect that the altitudes at which the incoming space particles like meteors will meet resistance from these gases also will decreases. In other words, they might light up a slightly lower altitudes.
Good point. Also, we don't know what other possible effects such a shrinking of the atmosphere can have, especially coupled with the failing magnetic field.


Jedi Master
Here in the Laurentians, around 100 km north of Montreal, we have been having some real cold nights - near ground freeze - for past 2 weeks. The next 10 days do not seem to indicate much change. It's either raining or cloudy for the coming week ahead with temps just above zero at nights. In our memories, this gradual change towards winter usually begins mid-November, so we are definitely experiencing colder than normal temps, and the first ground frost is expected within the next 72 hours. That is causing problems for the farming community for sure.


The Living Force
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Probably people have caught this on - Record snowfall wallops Calgary, Alberta in 1st storm of season.

It's a mess for this October start. By the time it is finished it may breach the 1914 record and there is more to come next week. It snowed hard all day in BC's East, and the mountain elevations may get near a half a meter of snow.

Here is Alerts for: Crowsnest Pass - Pincher Creek - Waterton Lakes Nat. Park - Warnings

Heavy snow continues over southern Alberta tonight. Intense bands of snow are producing visibilities of less than 1 kilometre. General snowfall amounts of 20 to 50 cm were reported Tuesday. Another 10 to 20 cm is expected tonight with amounts possibly up to 40 cm in the Crowsnest Pass region and under the more intense snowbands.

At the extreme, that is possibly 90 cm in some locations (shy of a meter).

By recollection (mentioned in other posts), there are areas of some significant snow pack deposits from winter 2017/2018 that now sit under fall 2018 snow - multiyear snow. I did not check Europe, yet it might be the same in certain locations.

Despite the mid July summer wildfires around here and a couple of days of 40+c temps (it was noted on one fire in Parks Canada under 40+c temps that last years snow was very much in evidence adjacent to the August fire - strange juxtaposition), almost all the nights were cool, some unseasonably and snow came (mountains) July 2nd, late August and multiple times in September (13th was big), and now heavy on October 2nd. Interestingly, for the first time in a while, there was no frost in the valley here until the 27th of September (keep an eye on this regarding the garden).

Of the fires, the fire behavior was either extreme (it was always posted extreme) or by observation moderate/low all within the same areas - some fires burned hot (Rank 6) and raced to the top of mountains while adjacent slopes within a few hundred meters did not even climb off the forest floor up into the forest canopy (Rank 1.5 - 2).

From planting the garden at home there seemed to be about 20 - 30% less growth overall, and this seems to be a factor of the cool evenings (including May/Jun and part of July) and the smoke filled atmosphere of much of August.

Last observation deals with snow avalanches over the last five years at least - they go up and down in severity due to factors. However, you can easily map avalanches in the terrain over hundreds of years (alpine/sub alpine/valley bottoms - the main paths, the forests vegetation (which also looks to return intervals) and predominate wind loading etc.) and yet there have been new paths formed from snow deposits above, from new wind loading patterns that have taken out new forest terrain below. It is a hit and miss observation that depends on knowing what was there before and what was not there; or direct study of the new path (or reviewing multiyear mapping of mountainous/forested regions). I put this in the same camp as the Inuit discussing the changing winds of the arctic regions (or as layed out by old Greeks who looked at this and named the rotating or oscillating directions).

Like many people, with all the talk of AGW causes in the main discourse, it is hard to actually have a discussion on anything regarding climate history with them, let alone discuss questions from the non-promoted science of it (and forget talking about cosmic aspects) when they don't want to hear anything that conflicts - nothing new here. From a local perspective, though, the more and more one looks, the more things that people seem to take for granted as existing unchanged begin to appear much more change and unpredictable. We may feel we have a solid view of the last 200 - 500 hundred years (and we somewhat do), yet take it back further and the view dims to the more unknown; and that is even by the spade that seems to throw up uncertainties in some location. More likely, there were wild swings.



The Living Force
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On May 28, 1807, Swiss paleontologist, glaciologist, and geologist Jean Louis Rodolphe Agassiz was born, who is considered a prominent innovator in the study of the Earth‘s natural history. He was the first to scientifically propose that the Earth had been subject to a past ice age.

Louis Agassiz studied medicine at the universities of Zurich, Heidelberg, and Munich, but educated himself also in nature sciences and botany. To his early mentors belonged Alexander von Humboldt and Georges Cuvier, who motivated the young scientist to keep up his interest in geology, zoology and ichtyology. In the 1820’s, Agassiz undertook a research journey to Brasil to study fish, which depicted a turning point in his career. After Johann Baptist von Spix, who joined his travel, passed away, Agassiz was asked to complete the researcher’s studies which he gratefully did. Several publications followed the trip and Agassiz’ reputation across the continent grew.

While being occupied as professor in Neuchâtel, Louis Agassiz proceeded his research on fish and fossils at the Swiss canton of Glasrus, which depicted the foundation for his later works that made him internationally famous. For many decades, researchers tried to find out how boulders were transported over quite large distances, especially in the foothills of the Alps. Several scientists already thought of glacier-activities but had difficulties to prove their ideas. The common explanatory approach was volcanic processes.

In 1787 Bernhard Friedrich Kuhn had already suspected glacier activity as the cause and the Scottish geologist James Hutton had come to a similar conclusion. However, their theses met with just as little acceptance as those of the natural scientist Albrecht Reinhard Bernhardi (1797-1849), who had already argued in an article in 1832 that an ice cap had once extended over Europe, reaching as far as Central Germany. Other scientists believed that these huge boulders were carried on ice floes from the north to their present sites during floods. It was assumed that the erratic blocks in the foothills of the Alps had been carried by large floods from the Alpine peaks to the foothills.

In the 1830’s Karl Friedrich Schimper mentioned his theories on a possible ice age and therefore a solution to the boulder problem. Louis Agassiz visited the researcher during his scientific journey to the Black Forest and was finally convinced by Schimper’s ideas. They began working on the topic together and Agassiz presented their results on the ice age theory in Switzerland in 1837 dramatically. Firstly, Louis Agassiz did not find many supporters, wherefore he put further work in researching and proving his proposition.

For the next 5 years, Agassiz traveled to glacier areas observing their structures and possible movements. In further publications, he explained his new and improved studies. He described the movements of glaciers and their historical importance to the Alpine area, as well as clarified how certain areas were once completely covered in ice. Louis Agassiz then began working together with William Buckland, finding out how Scottland, England and Wales were formed by glaciers, which they also published.

Unfortunately, their theories were not immediately accepted throughout the scientific community and beyond. However, after decades of attempting to convince his fellow researchers and several publications, more and more scientists began to focus on his subject as well. One of the most skeptic researchers was Charles Lyell, who at first supported Agassiz but later rejected his theories for several years. A few years after Louis Agassiz’ passing, many scientists were finally convinced by the ice age theory and it slowly reached everyone across Europe, an achievement which Louis Agassiz is mostly remembered for today.

In 1842–1846 Agassiz issued his Nomenclator Zoologicus, a classified list, with references, of all names employed in zoology for genera and groups — a work of great labour and research. After an invitation from J. A. Lowell, at the Lowell Institute in Boston, Massachusetts, to the U.S., Agassiz decided to settle there. His engagement for the Lowell Institute lectures precipitated the establishment of the Lawrence Scientific School at Harvard University in 1847 with him as its head. Harvard appointed him professor of zoology and geology, and he founded the Museum of Comparative Zoology there in 1859 serving as the museum’s first director until his death in 1873. During his tenure at Harvard, he was, among many other things, an early student of the effect of the last Ice Age on North America.

Why I must speak out about climate change - James Hansen
Published on Apr 12, 2013 / 17:51


Windmill knight

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Professor Valentina Zharkova Breaks Her Silence and CONFIRMS “Super” Grand Solar Minimum

November 6, 2018 Cap Allon

Professor Valentina Zharkova gave a presentation of her Climate and the Solar Magnetic Field hypothesis at the Global Warming Policy Foundation in October, 2018. The information she unveiled should shake/wake you up.
Zharkova was one of the few that correctly predicted solar cycle 24 would be weaker than cycle 23 — only 2 out of 150 models predicted this.
Her models have run at a 93% accuracy and her findings suggest a Super Grand Solar Minimum is on the cards beginning 2020 and running for 350-400 years.
The last time we had a little ice age only two magnetic fields of the sun went out of phase.
This time, all four magnetic fields are going out of phase.
Here’s a great (and relatively brief) video explanation of Zharkova’s presentation from Diamond and Lee Wheelbarger:

And here’s the presentation in full:

If the world was looking for an Epiphany moment, this should be it.

Even if you believe the IPCC’s worst case scenario, Zharkova’s analysis blows any ‘warming’ out of the water.

Lee Wheelbarger sums it up: even if the IPCC’s worst case scenarios are seen, that’s only a 1.5 watts per square meter increase. Zharkova’s analysis shows a 8 watts per square meter decrease in TSI to the planet.

Forget the arguments, debates and attempts to win over AGW alarmists — and just prepare.

Time is almost up.



The Living Force
Thanks for posting, WK. I probably shouldn't be surprised, but still did find myself taken aback over the brazen attempt of trying to let Prof. Zharkova's message go unheard. Lee Wheelbarger (from the 1st video WK posted above) explains how he's watched Prof. Zharkova's presentation twice, from two separate sources. Now, quoting Lee:

... in both sources they blocked out the key information when she went to show the charts. She talks about it, but the geo physical union was so shocked by the figures that she showed that they they wouldn't post them in the video. And then on the other channel that monitored it, not only did they not show it, but they doubled up the audio and made an echo so you couldn't even hear what she was saying during it.
Go figure!


Jedi Master
Her models have run at a 93% accuracy and her findings suggest a Super Grand Solar Minimum is on the cards beginning 2020 and running for 350-400 years.
It should have been 35-40 years, isn't it?
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