The infrabed

[nature]

To Persej:
In this case, yes it's good idea :) . To use a LED bulb or projector and interpose a blue light filter.

 

[Persej]

It's a free version anyway, and I guess it can't harm but I will see if it can help with anything. Another option would be one of these red lights for growing plants that have recommended 660nm:

http://www.greenergystar.com/shop/led-panels/63-16w-230-red-led-panel.html
http://www.lck-led.com/grow-light-660nm-256v-leds-p-786.html?cPath=153

 

[nature]

Yes, I was looking for something like that. 660 is very good. It will be good to have another one in the NIR.

Have you find a blue light filter? (in case we use standard full LED)

 

[nature]

It's a bad idea, because of blue light which have, in these spectrums, the higher amount.

But the color filter is removing the blue light. Here is, for example, what you can get with f.lux program on Macbook with red background: https://fluxometer.com/rainbow/#!id=Retina%20Macbook%20Pro%202014/red-RetinaMacbookPro2014

It still has a tiny bit of blue, but not much.

The best spectrum, for good results on health is to have the least blue wave and the most in red (around 430-460) and near infrared (around 800- 850)

Red is above 600. Yes, I know that the near infrared is the best (800-850), but before I find near infrared floodlight I thought I could try this free method.

Oups! typing error. I mean 630-660.

 

[Persej]

Have you find a blue light filter? (in case we use standard full LED)

Well, the filter is already built in the monitor which I'm using. I just have to play a 15 minute video which I made from this example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTZeYY26eew

Of course, there are differences in filters. The new ones, like the ones in iPhone 7 or the Quantum Dot in Samsung QLED TV's are very good for red 600's, but not as good as those plant grow lights, because Quantum Dot peaks around 630-640: https://img.global.news.samsung.com/global/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/QuantumDotGood_Main_3.jpg

So, for those who have the means, 850nm floodlight plus the 660nm grow light seems to be the best combination. After the original Infrabed desing, of course.

 

[nature]

ah okay, your filter is already in your smartphone? But:
1. is this filter reliable? it would be interesting if you can check it with a spectrophotometer
2. What about wifi waves?

My idea is rather to use a filter made of a large plate of glass (anti-blue light plate of glass) and place many LED bulbs behind it.

 

[Persej]

ah okay, your filter is already in your smartphone? But:
1. is this filter reliable? it would be interesting if you can check it with a spectrophotometer

Yes, I would love to have spectrophotometer. But they are very expensive. I have no way to know which red color I'm using without it.

2. What about wifi waves?

I'm using PC monitor right now, but if I would be using smartphone I would turn of the network ("airplane mode") while doing the photo therapy.

My idea is rather to use a filter made of a large plate of glass (anti-blue light plate of glass) and place many LED bulbs behind it.

You could instead just buy some red Christmas lights.

 

[gdpetti]

that spectrum photo of the bed's IR looked like the new model from Get Fitt: http://www.get-fitt.com/far-infrared-cocoon-sol-professional.htm

Except that the getfitt item is FAR infrared not NEAR infrared and produces a lot of heat.

Yeah, I see that now that you mentioned it, had to look it up to see what you meant: http://www.shabathmineralwellness.com/red-light-therapy-is-not-infrared/
Wrong freq's and expensive(SOL $3100)... but the use of carbon sheet instead of fibers is interesting... if a substance that radiated in that infrared 800-850 nn could be found and prove more useful than these LEDs, right?

 

[Laura]

that spectrum photo of the bed's IR looked like the new model from Get Fitt: http://www.get-fitt.com/far-infrared-cocoon-sol-professional.htm

Except that the getfitt item is FAR infrared not NEAR infrared and produces a lot of heat.

Yeah, I see that now that you mentioned it, had to look it up to see what you meant: http://www.shabathmineralwellness.com/red-light-therapy-is-not-infrared/
Wrong freq's and expensive(SOL $3100)... but the use of carbon sheet instead of fibers is interesting... if a substance that radiated in that infrared 800-850 nn could be found and prove more useful than these LEDs, right?

The near infrared LEDs are relatively inexpensive especially if you get the big lights for illuminating infrared cameras. A couple of those and you are all set; no need for glass filters or any of that other messing around. And since security or hunting cameras are pretty much ubiquitous, so should the lights be.

 

[nature]

I'm using PC monitor right now, but if I would be using smartphone I would turn of the network ("airplane mode") while doing the photo therapy.

Thank you for the precision. Then it seems indeed a free way to do light therapy :) .

You could instead just buy some red Christmas lights.

One that doesn't blinks, then.
The better is to buy the device indicated by Laura, the handheld LED red:

I want to just mention here that the handheld LED red (or other color) lights are helpful for some things and easy to use. I have one like this:

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B018G3X6PS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Which I use on my jaw, face, etc. Has really, REALLY helped with that persistent jaw infection.

And then there is this:

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B01K7E7S94/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

Looks pretty weird, I know. I don't use it on my face, I use it on my back or knee while I am sitting and reading. It can REALLY give some good relief with just a 30 minute treatment.

 

[Zasino]

... A couple of those and you are all set; no need for glass filters or any of that other messing around. ...

I agree. LEDs are pretty narrow spectrum devices - except the white ones which are originally blue but have a covering of phosphors to resonate at longer wavelengths.
I'm building a 660nm / 930nm combo as we speak, using Osram OSLON devices.

 

[JGeropoulas]

For reasons I, nor 2 specialists can determine, I have chronic inflammation in my left sinuses, causing congestion. Lab tests do not indicate infection of any kind, and I've already had surgery which resolved structural problems but not this severe congestion. So are y'all saying the infrared light increases sinus congestion/pressure, vs. reduces it?

For me, no. I feel a slight "pressure" while in the InfraBed, but it stops the minute the LEDs turn off. It's not uncomfortable at all, and it's nothing like actual sinus pressure.

I'm basically just wondering if it's working on fixing something since I have had related issues before.

But it's too early yet to say anything definitive.

OK thanks for the clarification.

 

[zak]

...

(...) In short, I feel a slight pressure in my nasal passages when I'm in the InfraBed. Not uncomfortable, just "there". I also feel a kind of heat, but not physically hot. It's almost like Reiki-type heat, but more mild. It feels like it's on the outer surface of my body, and that it penetrates about 2cm.

The first session, I hadn't yet read the post about how infrared penetrates slightly into the body, so I wasn't primed or anything. And the nasal passage pressure is interesting, because historically I've had mini-migraines coupled with sinus pressure and the whole disappearing vision thing. Those headaches increased for awhile, but in the last 6-12 months, they've actually decreased in both frequency and intensity (yay!). So, the nasal passage pressure I feel is pretty interesting, because that's usually where the not-migraines start.

Hmmmm... now that's interesting Scottie. I suffered from sinuses issues and headaches throughout my 20ies but iodine sorted most of it out. Most of it. Not all of it. This morning I woke up with a bit of a similar "nasal pressure" sensation you described but I thought I caught a bug so I need to nuke it with more iodine. I held the lamp quite close to my face last night yet I didn't connect it to the blockage in the nasal sinuses area until I read your post.

It will be interesting to see if your not-migranes come back or not. Fingers crossed they won't!
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For reasons I, nor 2 specialists can determine, I have chronic inflammation in my left sinuses, causing congestion. Lab tests do not indicate infection of any kind, and I've already had surgery which resolved structural problems but not this severe congestion. So are y'all saying the infrared light increases sinus congestion/pressure, vs. reduces it?

A parenthesis in this infraworld :

Sinus Support

Scientists have also investigated the efficacy of bromelain in offering welcome relief from sinusitis, the painful inflammation of the sinus cavities typically caused by bacterial, fungal, or viral infection. Sinusitis often follows an upper respiratory infection and can manifest with symptoms such as nasal congestion and discharge, postnasal drip, headache, cough, and sore throat.

Researchers compared bromelain with standard therapies, both alone and in combination, in 116 children under the age of 11 suffering from acute sinusitis. Remarkably, patients treated with bromelain alone experienced a recovery that was significantly faster than patients in any of the other groups.6

These findings confirmed those from an earlier study showing that bromelain resolved inflammation of the nasal mucosa in 85% of adults receiving bromelain, while only 40% of adults receiving placebo showed a similar improvement.12

A recent research review noted that bromelain may offer benefits for sinus health by thinning nasal secretions and inhibiting the production of inflammatory prostaglandins.13 In fact, the German Commission E has approved bromelain for the treatment of sinus and nasal swelling following ear, nose, and throat surgery or trauma.

A link

 

[SummerLite]

I received my flood light 2 days ago and thought I'd give my report so far. I didn't think it was working at first since you cant see the lights on in a daylight room so a bit concerning. I placed the light about 30 inches away at throat level for 20 min. at the first treatment but had the feeling that wasn't close enough so the second day I laid on the bed, propped the light on a pillow at throat level and brought it close to that area, maybe 1 inch away which seemed a lot better. I dozed off just around 20 min. and woke myself at 25. Just before this I had a full body chill! I removed the light and in 3 min. I had another full body chill... I wonder what thats about? I did feel much more energized during the day despite not having a good nights sleep. The light is rather heavy and figuring how to set it up was a bit tricky but laying down seemed to work best.

I delivered the reptile light 660 nm. to my son today and showed him how to set it up for treatments of his carpal tunnel problems. I spoke with his wife also of how the light can be used to help her 5 yr. old son who has a few burns on his face and legs due to being careless around a campfire soaking up infrared.. He's already healing well and a trip to the doctors happened right away.

Altogether an inspiring 2 days :). I'm not sure how close to the body the light should be and this is my best guess so far. Any suggestions are welcome.

link of reptile light, discussed on Jack Kruse website. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Exo-Terra-PT2144-Infrared-Basking/dp/B0002AR3QW

 

[Bobo08]

I received this IR floodlight http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Night-vision-216-pcs-LEDs-CCTV-IR-Infrared-Illuminator-Lamp-Lights-850nm-940nm-/110435725140 on Monday. So I thought I'd give my report too.

The floodlight I got covers an area about 20 x 30 cm. When turned on, it gives a faint red glow and no heat, but if left on for a while, it gets warm or even somewhat hot at the glass. The light has a sensor so it turns off if there's nothing in front of it. I use it by placing it on the body so it is always on, but if you put it a bit further away, it may turn itself off. The whole thing is fairly heavy to be held for any significant period without support.

I've been using it every day for about 1.5 - 2 hours in the evening, moving every half an hour to a different area on the body. I focused mostly on the lower back and stomach, as I have some problems there and as those are the most convenient areas when sitting at the desk. Occasionally, I applied on the head and chest as I lied on the bed too. At first, I used it through a layer of clothes, but then I got bolder and put it directly on the skin.

About the results, the first effect I can notice is an increase in energy, not much in the sense of feeling more energetic, but that I can now function longer without falling into dissociation. For the full week, I could stay fairly alert up until the evening, even on the Friday. I guess it's an increase in the energy reserve, but not energy level.

The second effect is that it seems to improve my digestive system. Previously, every time I eat anything beside meat and green vegetable, my tummy would give a clear signal that it doesn't like it. In the last Friday, I partook in some fruits at the office. I waited for the usual "signal", but didn't feel anything. Clearly, something good is happening.

I read someone's concern that the treatment may energize you, making it difficult to sleep if applied in the evening. I don't notice anything to that effect.