The mission of humanity and man. Is there really a point in fighting?

[axj]

Do we all have a mission to discover?

The way I see it, we all have more than one mission. One mission that is more or less the same for everyone (waking up, deprogramming, healing, raising the FRV, etc ) and more personal missions depending on our talents.

Without ego there is no sense of self

It depends on how you define ego. To me the ego is the "false self", the accumulation of all the programming. Our true self is what remains when we let go of and clear all the accumulated mental and emotional 'crap'.

The sense of self has nothing to do with ego. The sense of self is enhanced the more we let go of ego patterns, programming and heal emotional charges and wounding.

 

[Wandering Star]

What is the point of developing a "separate" soul?

The same as not doing so. It is not up to you.

. Will we be able to use this in some kind of freedom struggle?

That does not matter to some. It will be whatever.

Is there a possibility that humanity can fight back against its oppressors? Or if we rebel, will we simply be crushed into dust?

Fairly studied third-density issues.

. Do we have a mission, one that can be achieved or failed, but which is real and not illusory?

Sure.
To get food on the table every day, for example.

Your questions are all from the third-density realm, which is understandable on the other hand.

 

[Fluffy]

The way I see it, we all have more than one mission. One mission that is more or less the same for everyone (waking up, deprogramming, healing, raising the FRV, etc ) and more personal missions depending on our talents.


It depends on how you define ego. To me the ego is the "false self", the accumulation of all the programming. Our true self is what remains when we let go of and clear all the accumulated mental and emotional 'crap'.

The sense of self has nothing to do with ego. The sense of self is enhanced the more we let go of ego patterns, programming and heal emotional charges and wounding.

I think the noticing of ego gives us the opportunity to see the other side of sensing the self, like a negative or opposing feedback loop mirroring yourself to yourself. But this isn’t true of everyone, it either develops naturally, wilfully or not at all.
A young child will only sense itself through a very egocentric lens, at some point in early development the child will begin to make decisions based on the wants of the ego, who is a necessary narcissist for the reason of survival. This is crucial or no personality will develop. The ego is foundational for all human life and the beginnings of defining the self in the world.

 

[axj]

The ego is foundational for all human life and the beginnings of defining the self in the world.

Again, it depends on how you define ego. In psychology, ego means something else than in the context of the Work. We have a true self or a "true ego" that has nothing to do with the "false self" ego that most people are identified in. That collection of STS programming and wounding is not foundational to human life, quite the opposite.

 

[Alejo]

For example. 4D beings that feed on our emotions, blood, bodies. I wonder if it is possible to free ourselves from their oppression? Not just escape "from the cage into the forest", but change the rules of the game and theirself "energy economy"?

I think this has been covered in The Wave. Essentially the only way to "escape" our current condition is to move from an STS based existence into an STO one. But that isn't a mission per se, it's a choice.

Yes, rather a collective mission of the race or something similar. I don't want us to turn a blind eye to the problems of the world, thinking that the soul will gain experience and there is no need to worry about what will happen in the future, but in fact this is very important. What if souls are in the same difficult situation?

Same as above, I think a collective choice can only be made when these individuals are truly collinear, but that requires the individuals to chose first and then find a common group aim. So, it's not a mission per se, it's not destiny. It's a choice one makes, that others make as well of their own free will that aligns a collective into a larger group effort.

 

[bozadi]

So…. Ego = disease? That’s what it sounds like.

Yes. I believe it is the disease with which we need to be concerned the most. It also functions as a "trojan horse" through which viruses can infect us. So, I think, it's the basic virus~disease that opens the doors for other viruses~diseases.

I'm aware that ego can be defined variously, but in parallel to what axj said on the matter, I take the C's take on that. It's a shorter expression of "egoism". I believe this usage is very common colloquially.

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[bozadi]

no baby would survive past its first year if it didn’t develop an ego first.

As said, the definitions of ego varies, but taking what the C's mean when they refer to this concept, I'd say it's STS rather than ego for your sentence above although the two concepts are very closely related. Babies and small children need to be "service to self" to grow up but that STS is not necessarily the same as the STS chosen as a spiritual path.

In the spectrum of 7 vertical densities, 3D is just below 4D, the mid-density. From a spiritual developmental point of view, it may be said to be a level between childhood and adolescence, perhaps, and thus it's only normal for 3D to involve STS-inclinations just like small children need to be STS for their proper development. I think somewhere around mid-3D, individuals begin to have conscious awareness of their "choice".

 

[BHelmet]

It depends on how you define ego. To me the ego is the "false self", the accumulation of all the programming. Our true self is what remains when we let go of and clear all t

Regarding these definitions, something occurs to me from what you have written. Sure, put the false self on the bottom and the true self on top, but it feels like something is missing. I don’t think we flip flop in a purely binary way between the two, Or permanently reside in either. There are gradients between states. First is the wake up call about the false self and then some euphoria reaching the heights after plumbing the depths, but most of the time seems to be in some kind of mid level limbo or purgatory trying to swim upstream from one state to another. If I’m only “healed” when I am in the highest state possible, well… I guess am just not sold that selfless is the best definition for healed.

Anyway, back to “why fight?” Or why resist? I think I recall in Dancing with Wolves a comment that if our souls are in jeopardy we have a right and perhaps it is even a duty to “fight”.

Could our individual souls not be just higher level egos? (LOL!) Especially given the hypothesis that our individual souls are fragments of something greater.

It’s a deep well.

 

[axj]

I don’t think we flip flop in a purely binary way between the two, Or permanently reside in either.

When you do the Work, then it becomes a gradient of untangling yourself from the false self and starting to live more and more from the true self. Those who do not do the Work may get glimpses of their true self sometimes, but are otherwise fully identified in the false self and its programming.

I guess am just not sold that selfless is the best definition for healed.

I think that "selfless" is another word that is misleading. "Selfless" acts are really "egoless" acts, which are not coming from the STS programming of the false self.

 

[bozadi]

Ego is a self-sabotaging mechanism from an STO-candidacy point of view, I think. Based on my observations on myself, it’s about the failure to give yourself the cure you need. You need positivity (continuous betterment & wellness) but mostly entertain negative thoughts and emotions. And, almost always, the pretext is the “environment”. Our interaction and identification with our socio-economic environment, the world... Or the movie of life that we are watching and interacting with… The conditions of our life experience are mostly adverse, and very much so as we all know. And to the extent that we “belong” to (and are determined by) this local movie/illusion that has been heavily controlled by the Matrix conspirators, our ego (fears & desires) strengthens, and we eventually get crippled in various ways. I believe this is closely related to the following:

A: Nobody who obeys the "rules" can afford to "live," but if you refuse to play the game as you are told to, you will do quite well, indeed.

On one hand, it’s very natural and necessary that we belong to our life, regardless of its conditions, but there’s some part of us that is beyond or above 3D; which I think is about “higher centers”, probably in terms of our connection to our soul essence in 5D and our higher self in 6D, all based on our non-individual eternal abode of 7D. I think that’s why the C’s suggest “Stop thinking 3D”, when they do.

Different persons can have different “higher center” inspirations that help them raise their frequencies. Recently, I’ve been experimenting with accepting any positive frequencies that I can perceive and enjoy as God’s (the “first pan’s”) extensions. Like, any positivity is a connection to/from 7D, which is us really. Any positivity is invaluable, priceless, timeless in its essence. We are travelling to its core. What is more real and important than this eventually? When I can occasionally “believe” in this heartily, I become more able to stop being determined and crippled by the severe imposition of negativities by the Matrix-controlled life. When our eyes only see the negative scenes created by the Matrix, we can probably not find much positivity to inspire from or to identify with. The human world is filled with heavily negative scenes. And we live in the world, being heavily bombarded by negative frequencies. By doing this all around the world, the Matrix tries to make us lose our awareness of the Sun, which is us and which is the greater (or the “greatest”) truth. I think that only by knowing ourselves as the Sun, pure positivity, pure being, can we effectively counteract the dark conspirators’ efforts for assimilating us to themselves, to negativity.

 

[axj]

I think it is somewhat of a balancing act in that we need to be aware of negativity in and around us - but at the same time stay on center and connected to the positivity at our core. Becoming stoic basically, but not from denial of what is happening and not from blocking difficult emotions that come up.

 

[Chetofloj]

Sin ego no hay sentido de uno mismo, por lo que puedo ver es necesario empezar por ahí, notando el ego y la forma en que dicta y domina provocando respuestas egoístas.
Sin ego no hay supervivencia, somos vasos vacíos, ningún bebé sobreviviría más allá de su primer año si no desarrollara primero un ego. No es una enfermedad en sí misma, aunque puede serlo, desenfrenada, causó todo tipo de problemas, físicos, psíquicos, proyectados hacia afuera, pero lo veo como un niño al que se le debe enseñar cómo comportarse para que pueda ser de utilidad para los adultos, convirtiéndose así en una parte funcional y útil de una dinámica y, eventualmente, aprendiendo a crecer e integrarse para fortalecer el ser completo y completo.

Without ego there is no sense of self, from what I can see it is necessary to start there, noticing the ego and the way it dictates and dominates causing self serving responses.
Without ego there is no survival, we are empty vessels, no baby would survive past its first year if it didn’t develop an ego first. It is not a disease in and of itself, though it can be, unrestrained it caused all kinds of problems, physically, psychically, projected outwardly, but I see it as a child that needs to be taught how to behave so it can be of use to the adults thus becoming a functional and helpful part of a dynamic and eventually learning to grow up and integrate to fortify the whole and complete being.

According to the Cs, the fallen angel Lucifer is an allegory of humanity in its fallen condition and at the same time a variation of an older legend such as that of Orion. How can it be that, having been in Union with the One, the seventh density ( humanity) may not have had knowledge of what physicality entails?
The legend of Samson as suggested by Laura's study demonstrates the limiting state and occluded potential. If we were in Union with the One, why did we choose limitation and fall prey to the mercy of beings from whom we are in a certain way at a disadvantage, abductions, implants, etc.?

 

[bozadi]

I think it is somewhat of a balancing act in that we need to be aware of negativity in and around us - but at the same time stay on center and connected to the positivity at our core.

Yes. In fact, the more I become aware of negativity as negativity (rather than as "standard" reality that is "to be accepted"), I become more able to receive or access positivity from within myself or, maybe, from the field of information in and around me. And I think this is why it is important to face the bitter truths of our lives. When you can see it for what it is, you are forced to counteract the causal factors, to the extent you are STO-oriented.

Becoming stoic basically, but not from denial of what is happening and not from blocking difficult emotions that come up.

Yep, I think that the more truly positive we are, the more we are willing to let anything negative or blocking inside and around us reveal itself, because otherwise we will be blocking ourself and others from progressing towards purer positivity/being. More positivity, more love, more courage, more strength.

 

[EmeraldR]

greed hatred and delusion certainly factor into the ego mechanism - all about me and no other !

 

[bozadi]

greed hatred and delusion certainly factor into the ego mechanism - all about me and no other !

Me too! :))