That could well be the case in the end, if the people inside those cars have the AC running. Holidays in the future might be spent for a great deal at the charging stations.
The Politics of Climate Change: Green New Deal And Other Madness
- Thread starter Ennio
- Start date
The festival at Glastonbury where Greta made her usual doomsday appearance had some interesting tweets from people, which highlights the hypocrisy.
Charging EV vehicles was a problem as Glastonbury is remote. Compounding the problem was the fact that there was a rail strike. Organizers encouraged EV drivers to come with as close to a full battery as possible. There was one place to charge the vehicles for a flat rate of £50, which had originally been £80.
This service was offered at Worthy Farm, which derived the electricity from a diesel generator.
Some young ones didn't like the madness:
Charging EV vehicles was a problem as Glastonbury is remote. Compounding the problem was the fact that there was a rail strike. Organizers encouraged EV drivers to come with as close to a full battery as possible. There was one place to charge the vehicles for a flat rate of £50, which had originally been £80.
This service was offered at Worthy Farm, which derived the electricity from a diesel generator.
Some young ones didn't like the madness:
Weird Vegan Burger That Apparently Tastes Like Human Flesh Gets Award For 'Creativity'
Swedish food company Oumph! has created a plant-based vegan burger that tastes like human flesh.
www.indiatimes.com
Okeeeeej… next question would be: how do they know how human flesh taste like!!???
And it isn't just cars. Now also minidiggers go green with zero emissions or so it says. Yet reality is different:
So, the reality is that it can work for 2 hours pretty much like a normal digger after which the battery is flat. The recharging by diesel generators take 8 hours.
nature
Dagobah Resident
and : human flesh taste-like offered to vegan people?Weird Vegan Burger That Apparently Tastes Like Human Flesh Gets Award For 'Creativity'
Swedish food company Oumph! has created a plant-based vegan burger that tastes like human flesh.
Okeeeeej… next question would be: how do they know how human flesh taste like!!???
The poster looks like a work of a misanthropic division, or is it just from the activism department of the European Green Dealers? And is it seriously meant, or did someone wish to show a heartless logical outcome?
If it was seriously meant, why have they not thought of reducing immigration to countries where it is cold and hard to live without heating? And what would Greta Thunberg think about this image? Would she decide to go to where it is slightly warmer and have a couple of children there? She might stand a better chance of still being CO2 neutral or even negative after a move, compared to a childless life in her present location, where the Sun often does not shine, the wind sometimes does not blow, and where a long drive in a battery driven car during a freezing January winter night could be a challenging affair.
If life equates death, does "green" equate death too? Is there an antidote to misanthropic green ideas? What is the complementary to green? The Wiki on complementary colors, writes it depends on the colour theory, but in modern colour theory it is magenta:
About magenta, they say it is exactly midway between red and blue, and a shade of purple.
Will the green parties be followed by magenta parties? I'm waiting.
I just realised that I forgot to attach the video of the digger being charged by a diesel generator.
Nitrogen and the politics of climate change
The Wiki on the history of climate change science begins:
Depopulation is a screw with many settings
Below, I will attempt to discover why nitrogen is important in the green climate politics, but first something about the role of nitrogen in the world we live in. Perhaps before moving on, I should mention, that I do appreciate clean air, clean water, a clean earth and healthy food, but it is also clear that the path to achieve such goals can not be divested from a concern for the current population on the planet. There is need for balance.
The nitrogen cycle
The nitrogen cycle models the cycle of nitrogen in the global ecosystem.
From the Wiki on the nitrogen cycle, this image focus on reactive nitrogen, chemical compounds that can participate in other processes. Nitrogen in the form of N2 make up 78 % of the air in our atmosphere, but it is chemically rather inert.
Nitrogen oxides, NOx, as Green House Gases (GHG)
In the illustration above, NOx is a class of compounds consisting of nitrogen and oxygen, like NO and NO2. These can be formed at high temperatures as in engines and furnaces or during natural events as lightening and volcanic. Among sources created by humans, this company information article distinguishes between:
The nitrogen cycle and living organisms
Another illustration from the Wiki shows the nitrogen cycle, but with focus on living organisms. Nitrogen in the air is fixated by some plants, and used by the same plants or other plants. Animals eat the plants and return some nitrogen to the soil, some of which can be used by the plants or fungus organisms before it is used by bacteria either to make new nutrients or return the nitrogen to the air as N2. There is an illustration of lightning, as this is one way nature can split the nitrogen molecules in the air, to create reactive nitrogen. Also volcanic activity and bush fires can generate nitrous oxides.
To add the missing information about the influence of volcanoes, there was an older study from 2004, Nitric acid from volcanoes, that calculated the global effect, even if the amounts are off, the principles still stand.
Nitrogen as a primary nutrient for plants
The Norwegian company Yara issued a Fertilizer Industry Handbook in 2018, where one finds the following slide that explains the importance of nutrients though they seem to take light, water, and carbon dioxide for granted.
In the example of the barrel showing nutrients needed for the growth of a plant, the limiting factor is nitrogen. This is of course not always the case, as soils differ and so do the requirements of plants. Besides both light, water and carbon dioxide can be limiting factors as well. The Yara publication explains that one can distinguish between different categories of nutrients and that a balance of all is important for optimal growth.
The production of ammonia requires energy
From the conclusion, page 38/44
At the moment, the European production units mostly use natural gas to produce ammonia. During the last half year, the price of natural gas has gone up: Trading Economics reported today:
Global population growth and food demands
The global need for food increases, as the world population grows with 1.5 million per week increases. This year alone, until week 29, it is estimated that close to 44 million more people joined in.
With the increase in the global demand for food, agriculture has become more intensive and there has been an increase in the use of fertilizer. The following table from Nationmaster.com, shows a year-on-year growth in the production of nitrogen fertilizer, and the Netherlands, where the recent farmers' protest have taken place, has been number 11 among producers:
Another way of linking fertilizer use and nitrogen is done in the following image, which indicates that close to 50 % of the world population is fed by Haber-Bosch synthesized nitrogen fertilizer, which I take to mean that if there was no nitrogen fertilizers, then there would be fewer people.
Until now, we have found:
that nitrogen fertilizers are essential in the global food production to an increasing world population,
that the demand of nitrogen fertilizers has been increasing slowly for many years,
that to make fertilizers there is a need for energy especially in the form of natural gas.
that the process of making fertilizers, using current processes, result in emission of CO2,
that NOx is released both during production, and a part also when the fertilizer has gone on the fields and is degraded by certain bacteria in some soil environments.
The above summary was not the sequence I presented the ideas, but it will lead to the political topic of climate change politics. I use the EU as a case, but something similar may possibly apply to other areas, like the UK and the US.
1990ies: The early green policies - the EU Nitrates Directive
In a post in the thread about food shortages, the EU in 1991 launched the EU Nitrates Directive. In a 2010 factsheet, one finds:
2020ies: The EU and the European Green Deal targeting the emissions of green house gases
The EU states that
European Commission > Climate Action > EU Action > European Green Deal > 2030 Climate Target Plan
The document from the EU continues, and it is noteworthy that the 55% reduction is with regard to the 1990 level, when the population was smaller.
Concluding remarks
In this post, I presented some of the background for how nitrogen works in the soil, why it is used, how it is produced, and the political ambitions in the EU to reduce emissions of CO2 and NOx.
We don't know how far the EU will go in their drive to cut emissions to 1990 levels, and restrict agriculture including the use of fertilizers. Recently, there was an example from the US: There's no despot so tyrannical as a green politician though EU gaslights environmentalists by redefining 'green' energy, so we will see. One outcome is that they will have misread the situation with Russia and Ukraine so much that they will be forced to confront the impact of their choices. Perhaps in hinsight global warming politics will appear as another setting on the vice that was made by an elite to squeeze the global population.
The Wiki on the history of climate change science begins:
The history of the politics of climate change is intertwined with what they call climate change science. If one abstracts from the idea that the politics of climate change is only driven by a concern for the climate, to the more concerning issue that the intention is to depopulate the planet, then new patterns appear, as in this illustration:
Depopulation is a screw with many settings
Below, I will attempt to discover why nitrogen is important in the green climate politics, but first something about the role of nitrogen in the world we live in. Perhaps before moving on, I should mention, that I do appreciate clean air, clean water, a clean earth and healthy food, but it is also clear that the path to achieve such goals can not be divested from a concern for the current population on the planet. There is need for balance.
The nitrogen cycle
The nitrogen cycle models the cycle of nitrogen in the global ecosystem.
From the Wiki on the nitrogen cycle, this image focus on reactive nitrogen, chemical compounds that can participate in other processes. Nitrogen in the form of N2 make up 78 % of the air in our atmosphere, but it is chemically rather inert.
Nitrogen oxides, NOx, as Green House Gases (GHG)
In the illustration above, NOx is a class of compounds consisting of nitrogen and oxygen, like NO and NO2. These can be formed at high temperatures as in engines and furnaces or during natural events as lightening and volcanic. Among sources created by humans, this company information article distinguishes between:
A Chinese study mentions that agriculture accounts for more than 11 % of the global GHG emissions
The Wiki on Nitrogen cycle has:
The Wiki on Nitrous oxide mentions:
The above 40 % depends on how accurate one can know the amount released by the natural processes and by human processes.
The nitrogen cycle and living organisms
Another illustration from the Wiki shows the nitrogen cycle, but with focus on living organisms. Nitrogen in the air is fixated by some plants, and used by the same plants or other plants. Animals eat the plants and return some nitrogen to the soil, some of which can be used by the plants or fungus organisms before it is used by bacteria either to make new nutrients or return the nitrogen to the air as N2. There is an illustration of lightning, as this is one way nature can split the nitrogen molecules in the air, to create reactive nitrogen. Also volcanic activity and bush fires can generate nitrous oxides.
To add the missing information about the influence of volcanoes, there was an older study from 2004, Nitric acid from volcanoes, that calculated the global effect, even if the amounts are off, the principles still stand.
Besides nitrogen, other elements are needed for plant growth. Each have their own cycles, but nitrogen is one of the most important, as it is found in all amino acids.
Nitrogen as a primary nutrient for plants
The Norwegian company Yara issued a Fertilizer Industry Handbook in 2018, where one finds the following slide that explains the importance of nutrients though they seem to take light, water, and carbon dioxide for granted.
In the example of the barrel showing nutrients needed for the growth of a plant, the limiting factor is nitrogen. This is of course not always the case, as soils differ and so do the requirements of plants. Besides both light, water and carbon dioxide can be limiting factors as well. The Yara publication explains that one can distinguish between different categories of nutrients and that a balance of all is important for optimal growth.
In the first image in the post showing reactive nitrogen, there was mention of the Haber-Bosch process. Through this technology, invented in Germany just prior to WWI, one can produce ammonia, under controlled conditions. Ammonia can be used as fertilizer on fields, it can also be used as a base in the production of more complex nitrogen fertilizers like nitrate salts of potash or phosphor, not to mention a wide variety of industrial chemicals. At any rate, the synthesis of fertilizers comes at a price.
The production of ammonia requires energy
The industry has tried to save energy, and by optimizing the process, one can save some.Here are some quotes from the conclusion of a recently European industry study "Perspective Europe 2030 Technology options for CO2- emission reduction of hydrogen feedstock in ammonia production" that suit their language to the idea that CO2 is a problem. They have some colour codes depending on what technology they use. It is explained page 8/44. If you read the description, notice how many times natural gas is mentioned:
From the conclusion, page 38/44
The way I understand the assessment from the European industry association is that by 2030 it will be possible to reduce the amount of energy used to produce one ton of ammonia by 13-19 %. Among the problems for further reductions are that they don't have enough renewable energy.
At the moment, the European production units mostly use natural gas to produce ammonia. During the last half year, the price of natural gas has gone up: Trading Economics reported today:
The realization that one can cut the energy needed to produce ammonia may be good news for some, but the world needs nitrogen, because it is essential to a large food production. Even if the available fertilizer in some areas could be used better, there are other agricultural areas, that could benefit from fertilizers, if one wanted to increase the yields further. However, small subsistence farmers, of which there are many in Africa, can not afford to buy them.
Global population growth and food demands
The global need for food increases, as the world population grows with 1.5 million per week increases. This year alone, until week 29, it is estimated that close to 44 million more people joined in.
With the increase in the global demand for food, agriculture has become more intensive and there has been an increase in the use of fertilizer. The following table from Nationmaster.com, shows a year-on-year growth in the production of nitrogen fertilizer, and the Netherlands, where the recent farmers' protest have taken place, has been number 11 among producers:
See also this chart from the Yara publication that indicates where there is more trade.
Another way of linking fertilizer use and nitrogen is done in the following image, which indicates that close to 50 % of the world population is fed by Haber-Bosch synthesized nitrogen fertilizer, which I take to mean that if there was no nitrogen fertilizers, then there would be fewer people.
Until now, we have found:
that nitrogen fertilizers are essential in the global food production to an increasing world population,
that the demand of nitrogen fertilizers has been increasing slowly for many years,
that to make fertilizers there is a need for energy especially in the form of natural gas.
that the process of making fertilizers, using current processes, result in emission of CO2,
that NOx is released both during production, and a part also when the fertilizer has gone on the fields and is degraded by certain bacteria in some soil environments.
The above summary was not the sequence I presented the ideas, but it will lead to the political topic of climate change politics. I use the EU as a case, but something similar may possibly apply to other areas, like the UK and the US.
1990ies: The early green policies - the EU Nitrates Directive
In a post in the thread about food shortages, the EU in 1991 launched the EU Nitrates Directive. In a 2010 factsheet, one finds:
The original intention was mainly water, but in the last decade, the scares of climate change have ramped up considerably. If before the problem with nitrogen fertilizers was pollution of the water, but emissions of CO2 and NOx.
2020ies: The EU and the European Green Deal targeting the emissions of green house gases
The EU states that
Given the above and the EU declared enemy being global warming, agriculture is a sinner as the fertilizer production requires energy, that mostly come from sources emitting carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide. Add to this that the fertilizer helps to keep the grass green, but when the cows eats the grass, then methane which is another green house gas may also escape. Following this logic the EU European Commission, began to legislate. Here are excerpts from the beginning of the European Green Deal plan for the 2030 Climate Target Plan.
European Commission > Climate Action > EU Action > European Green Deal > 2030 Climate Target Plan
The EU policies is not growing its economy. As we know the sanctions against Russia from 2014 resulted in less food export to Russia and lost revenues, then Coved lockdowns and vaccination push to make things worse followed by more recent sanctions against Russia, and still they ramble on with growing the economy, which they can achieve in some measure by issuing money, but what about the values of these?
The document from the EU continues, and it is noteworthy that the 55% reduction is with regard to the 1990 level, when the population was smaller.
Certainty "to policymakers and investors", but what about the people? It has been notice outside Europe that the EU politicians tend to look after themselves and big money, and less to the people in their own countries and those of others. Besides, several European countries, have demonstrated time and again how willing they are to go along with sanctions and bombing campaigns under the collective flag of NATO or if need be the US only, but such criticism has so far not deterred the EU and they continue:
In 1990, there were probably more products produced in the EU that are now produced in Asia, but then this should help to keep the emission figures down in the EU, where they wish to emit 55 % less CO2 than in 1990. To compensate the "hypocricy figures" most rising in the EU.
Concluding remarks
In this post, I presented some of the background for how nitrogen works in the soil, why it is used, how it is produced, and the political ambitions in the EU to reduce emissions of CO2 and NOx.
We don't know how far the EU will go in their drive to cut emissions to 1990 levels, and restrict agriculture including the use of fertilizers. Recently, there was an example from the US: There's no despot so tyrannical as a green politician though EU gaslights environmentalists by redefining 'green' energy, so we will see. One outcome is that they will have misread the situation with Russia and Ukraine so much that they will be forced to confront the impact of their choices. Perhaps in hinsight global warming politics will appear as another setting on the vice that was made by an elite to squeeze the global population.
Saving democracy 
.. Of course, we have observed how democratic they have become...
People will have nothing and be happy.
leading democracies should agree to end the underpricing of fossil fuels
.. Of course, we have observed how democratic they have become... People will have nothing and be happy. leading democracies should agree to end the underpricing of fossil fuels
Riight!
