The Ra material and the Cassiopaeans

Ra's communication used a lot of words and phrases that are no longer or are seldom used. I thought it was cool to have to look up so many of the words that were used. I had the feeling that our language has been dumbed down, to the point that people would struggle to understand things written long ago.

I did find that other channeled material, such as the afterlife writings, used similar language. I think trying to explain spiritual things to beings in 3D, the widest possible language must be used to try and convey concepts that are outside of our normal reality.

Look at it as a positive, rather than a negative.
 
From my point of view, a legitimate source should be able to communicate to humans in the easiest and most effective way possible, assuming that a good flow of information is truly what is desired. All that nonsense about "high holy ones" who can only talk Elizabethan English just irritates me. If a source is "higher" it should have a much wider field of knowledge and awareness, including language and communication styles. The more limited the language, the more limited the source, IMO.
 
"Bye"?

Am I not allowed to have my own opinion? Must we always conform to what you want us to think?

To clarify, I'm on this forum because I think there's plenty of valuable information here... But I must admit, I don't like impression I get that I'm not allowed to express my own individual opinions, about something so simple as communication style.
 
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"Bye"?

Am I not allowed to have my own opinion? Must we always conform to what you want us to think?

To clarify, I'm on this forum because I think there's plenty of valuable information here... But I must admit, I don't like impression I get that I'm not allowed to express my own individual opinions, about something so simple as communication style.

We all are able to post our opinions here. Question is are you willing to be open to a dialogue. Believe me, I have posted stuff and got challenged. And it hurt, but I was able to open a pack of cigarettes and contemplate the situation. Conform is a harsh word. Having an open mind is hard. Being able to multitask the mind and process information is even harder. That's not taught in schools anymore. We need to grow on our own.
 
"Bye"?

Am I not allowed to have my own opinion? Must we always conform to what you want us to think?

To clarify, I'm on this forum because I think there's plenty of valuable information here... But I must admit, I don't like impression I get that I'm not allowed to express my own individual opinions, about something so simple as communication style.

Your opinion pretty much says that you do not consider what is offered here as of any significant value. Perhaps you did not intend it to be insulting, but it was. You can't expect to go to someone else's house, insult their home, hospitality, persons, and be welcomed back.
 
From my point of view, a legitimate source should be able to communicate to humans in the easiest and most effective way possible, assuming that a good flow of information is truly what is desired. All that nonsense about "high holy ones" who can only talk Elizabethan English just irritates me. If a source is "higher" it should have a much wider field of knowledge and awareness, including language and communication styles. The more limited the language, the more limited the source, IMO.

Anyone that can only use perfect "official English" is probably not too bright. I see the use of colloquial English as a good thing in the transmissions. This is not a term paper. It's not that different from normal human communication where "slang", puns, and metaphors are common. People who sit around holding their noses up at others aren't usually very fun at parties.
 
The channeling is majorly dependent on the being and polarity of channeling group per se since they are using the channeler’s 3D brain to create the words. This would obviously influence the communication style and the language employed. I found RA material to be helpful but only after reading the wave, forum and recommended books. That allowed me to widen my lens and read between the lines of such channelled material and pick off any distortion and disinformation. Otherwise, the material was a big turn-off for me for a longtime.

Both RA and C’s are 6D STO beings but they must respect the freewill of the 3D channeler including deviations from STO polarity, buffers, sacred cows and distortions. This is why the material differs from one source to the other. If Cass group were to make contact with RA, the information would be on par with C’s due the strength and polarity of the group.

I read the 4 volumes of “Life After Veil” and can count on my fingers the passages which seemed to make sense and were helpful. Rest was garbage.

Also, having observed the world and myself over the last few years, I have specifically understood the misuse/overuse of the intellectual center. Trust me when I say that the intellectual center always gets in the way of real progress. It appears that in this day and age, intelligence is a measure of how many complex words and long sentences someone can dish out to explain simple concepts. This is really a “walking on eggshells” approach where the crux of the matter is being avoided by not confronting the matter head on. Personally its a big turn off for me though I still make the effort to read it.

The takeaway is that, work on growing your own being, confront your sacred cows and then you’d be able to understand the channelings better. Claiming RA or C’s to better or worse than each other is a lost cause and only serve to feed the STS dynamic which neither of these sources would wish you to do.
 
I read the 4 volumes of “Life After Veil” and can count on my fingers the passages which seemed to make sense and were helpful. Rest was garbage.
I like C's way of presenting the complex concepts. Of course, C's were presenting relevance of the concepts to present day world, where events are dynamic and constantly changing. Laura's 'Wave' series has clarified many things from the session.

I read first 6 Kindle books “Life After Veil”. Kindle comes with a dictionary that helps to immediately check the meaning of the words. Without that it could be lot of guessing. This book were published almost 100 years back.

I find it C's text lot more easy to get the meaning than Ra.
 
I found reading the Ra material cumbersome. The C's communications are more to the point, mostly. There are times when the answers are not clear but that is due to a lack of knowledge on the part of the reader, or just the fact that we are 3D and not able to fully grasp certain concepts as a result. Overall the C's material is much broader and applicable to life. OSIT
 
I enjoyed the language Ra used in the Law of One.
I'm less keen on the language used by Laura & the C's.
Interestingly, although I know the material of Ra (Law of One) almost from memory, I like it a lot more as the C's communicate. I love his sense of humor, to the point that I cried with laughter with some paragraph of the C's.

Finally, I'm pretty sure (and I include myself) that without "prior experience", what is "communicated" is not really understood.

"All there are lessons, there is nothing else."

Do we really understand what this statement of the C's means?

The "elders" of this forum would be talking "hours" to explain that phrase, while most of us would explain it in a few words.

You lack information to "understand" ...
 
In this session the subject is explained on its own. Every time I read it, at least I smiled.

November 11, 1995
Frank, Laura, Susan V

Considering the direction the Cs took in this session, it’s interesting that it was held on 11-11.


Q: Hello.

A: Hello.

Q: (L) Who do we have with us?

A: Lynostieah

Q: (L) And where are you from?

A: The translation point of focus is Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Is there a reason you use the term "translation?" Is it because the information is translated from one density to another?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Is that the point where the energy "shifts" densities?

A: Close.

Q: (L) I noticed that in the beginning of these transmission that the language was very formalized, and that as time has gone by, the language used has become more colloquial. Why is this?

A: Formalized? Colloquial? Define your judgments, please!

Q: (L) Well, what I meant was, that in the beginning it seemed that certain colloquial expressions that we are accustomed to were unclear to you. And now, not only is there great familiarity with our expressions, but you seem to often come up with rather clever and original witty sayings.

A: Familiarity breeds contentment!

Q: (L) Okay. I want to get on with the questions for tonight...

A: Do you not wish to reflect upon our witticism?

Q: (L) [Laughter] Yes! I thought that was a very clever witticism!

A: It seemed as if you were not impressed?!? Give us a break, Laura?!? We're only sixth density!

Q: (L) As we say, "I love a sixth density light being with a sense of humor!" Now, the main thing I wanted to ask about is the references I come across in tons of reading, that the number 33 is somehow significant. Could you tell us the significance, in esoteric terms, or in terms of secret societies, of the number 33. There is the cipher of Roger Bacon, based on the number 33, the 33rd degree masons...

A: As usual, we do not just give you the answers, we help you to teach yourself!! Now, take 11 and contemplate...

Q: (L) Well, three times eleven is thirty-three.

A: Yes, but what about 11?

Q: (L) Well, eleven is supposed to be one of the prime, or divine power numbers. In Kaballah, 11 is the power number...

A: Yes...

Q: (L) Eleven is 10 plus 1; it is divisible only by itself and by 1. I can't think of anything else. I am an 11 in numerology... I am also a 22. What else is there to the number 11?

A: Astrology.

Q: (L) Well, in astrology, the eleventh sign is Aquarius, my name is an eleven, my birthday is a 22 which is twice eleven, and I am an Aquarian. The eleventh house is friends, hopes, dreams and wishes, and also adopted children. Aquarius the Waterbearer, the dispenser of knowledge. Does 11 have something to do with dispensing of knowledge?

A: Now, 3rd house.

Q: (L) Gemini. Okay. Gemini and Aquarius. Third house is how the mind works, communication, relations with neighbors and siblings, education, local travel, how one speaks. Gemini is known as the "consummate man." Somewhat shallow and interested in the things of material life. It is also the divine number of creation. So, what's the connection here?

A: Matrix.

Q: (L) Is there something about this in the Matrix material?

A: No.

Q: (L) This IS a matrix. The third house and the eleventh house create a matrix?

A: Foundation.

Q: (L) In terms of cosmic things, Gemini is in June, Aquarius is in February... (S) Isn't the third house also about teaching? And, we are friends here and we are being taught...

A: This is not about you.

Q: (L) Okay. This is not about us. I am just trying to relate it. Gemini is in June, Aquarius is in February. Gemini is the physical man, and Aquarius is the spiritual man?

A: Yin Yang.

Q: (L) So Gemini is the physical man and Aquarius is the spiritual man... yin yang... is that the...

A: Yes...

Q: (L) So 33 could represent the transformation of the physical man to the divine man through the action of secret or hidden teachings... and those who have gone through this process represent themselves with the number 33, which means that they started out oriented to the flesh and then became...

A: Medusa 11.

Q: (L) Medusa 11? What does Medusa have to do with it? (S) What about spinning 33 times? (L) Please tell me how Medusa relates here?

A: Heads.

Q: (L) Heads. Medusa. 11. Were there eleven snakes on the head of Medusa or eleven heads? This is really obscure... you need to help me out here.

A: We are.

Q: (L) Do I need to read the Medusa legend to understand?

A: No.

Q: (L) Medusa. Heads. 11. Is there something about the mythical Medusa that we need to see here?

A: 11 squared divided by phi.

Q: (L) By pi. 11 squared divided by pi. What does this result bring us to?

[Laura’s note: Above, I assumed that the Cs meant ‘pi’ no ‘phi’ since I really wasn’t all that familiar with phi as a mathematical idea so this is the point where things get frustrating. I’m operating on wrong assumptions.]

A: 33.infinity.

Q: (L) Well, we don't get 33 out of this... we get 3.3166 etc if we divide the square root of 11 by pi. Divided by phi... what in the heck is phi? Okay, if we divide pi into 11, we get 3.5 infinity, but not 33.

A: 1 times 1

Q: (L) Oh. You weren't saying 11 times 11, you were saying 1 times 1.

A: No.

Q: (L) 1 times 1 is what? 1.

A: 5 minus 3.

Q: (L) Okay, that's 2.

A: 2 minus 1.

Q: (L) Okay, that's 1. I don't get it. A math genius I am NOT. What is the concept here?

A: Look: 3 5 3 5 3 5.

Q: (L) What is the 3 5 sequence?

A: 5 minus 3.

Q: (L) Okay, we have strange math. But, you can do anything with numbers because they correspond to the universe at deep levels...

A: Is code.

Q: (L) What does this code relate to? Is it letters or some written work?

A: Infinite power.

[Laura’s note: It is obvious now that the Cs were talking about a phi spiral, Fibonacci Sequence, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, etc., Golden Ratio: The ratio between two consecutive numbers in the Fibonacci Series tends to the Golden Number Φ: 0.618… or 1.618; The ratio of each successive pair of numbers in the sequence approximates phi (1.618. . .), as 5 divided by 3 is 1.666…, and 8 divided by 5 is 1.60. but I was ignorant of all that at the time. Poor Cs were SOO frustrated I think.]

Q: (L) How is infinite power acquired by knowing this code? If you don't know the correspondences, how can you use a numerical code?

A: Lord of Serpent promises its followers infinite power which they must seek infinite knowledge to gain, for which they pledge allegiance infinitely, for which they possess for all eternity, so long as they find infinite wisdom, for which they search for all infinity.

Q: (L) Well, that is a round robin... a circle you can't get out of!

A: And therein you have the deception! Remember, those who seek to serve self with supreme power, are doomed only to serve others who seek to serve self, and can only see that which they want to see.

Q: (L) The thought that occurs to me, as we are talking here, is that the STS pathway consists of an individual who wants to serve themselves - they are selfish and egocentric -they want to impel others to serve them; they want to enslave others; and they find ways to manipulate others to serve them. But, they end up being impelled by some higher being than they are. Because they have been tricked into believing that by so doing, they are actually drawing power to themselves through the teachings, including the popular religions which promote being "saved" by simply believing and giving up your power. And, then, you have a whole pyramid of people TAKING by trickery and deception, from others. The taker gets taken from in the end. A pyramid where all those on the bottom, the majority, have no one to take from, so they get absorbed into the next level higher, until you get to the apex and everything disappears. In the STO mode, you have those who only give. And, if they are involved with other STO persons, everyone has and no one is at the bottom or at the top, in a void. In the end, it seems like everyone ends up serving someone else anyway, and the principle is the INTENT. But in STO, it is more like a circle, a balance, no one is left without.

A: Balance, yin-yang.

Q: (L) Obviously the 33 represents the Serpent, the Medusa, and so forth...

A: You mentioned pyramid, interesting... And what is the geometric one-dimensional figure that corresponds?

Q: (L) Well, the triangle. And, if you have a triangle point up you have 3, joined to a triangle pointing down, you have 3, you have a 33. Is that something like what we are getting at here?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there a connection between the number 33 and the Great Pyramid in Egypt?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what is that connection? Is it that the builders of the pyramid participated in this secret society activity?

A: Yes. And what symbol did you see in "Matrix," for Serpents and Grays?

Q: (L) You are talking about the triangle with the Serpent's head in it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are we talking in terms of this 33 relating to a group of "aliens," or a group of humans with advanced knowledge and abilities?

A: Either/or.

Q: (L) Is this what has been referred to in the Bramley book [Gods of Eden] as the Brotherhood of the Serpent or Snake?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this also what you have referred to as the Quorum?

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, we have a bunch of people who are playing with mathematics, and playing with higher knowledge, basically as a keep busy activity to distract them at the human level from the fact that they are being manipulated at a higher level. Is this what is going on? Or, do they consciously know what they are doing? Is it a distraction or a conscious choice?

A: Both.

Q: (L) If I were to name some names, could you identify if named individuals were involved in this secret group?

A: It would not be in your best interests.

Q: (L) Is there anything more on this 33 number that I should look at now?

A: No. You need to contemplate.

Q: (L) The next question in the list is: You indicated that we should study the legend of Orion, and I looked it up in several sources, and basically the legend is of the perfect man, who fell in love with a woman, and her jealous father caused him to be blinded. The only cure was to gaze at the light, the goddess Aurora, to regain his sight. Can you tell us how this relates to the idea that Orion was the indigenous home of humans?

A: It is up to you to look for answers.

Q: (L) There was an interesting reference in one of the books of the relationship of Orion to Scorpio, that Orion's bow is drawn at Scorpio. And, at one other point, you said that the physical bodies of mankind were molecularized, and ARE being molecularized, on a planet called D'Ankhiar, which is in the constellation Scorpio.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the relationship of Orion to Scorpio? The Orion "bad guys," shooting at Scorpio which is the place of origin of the physical manifestation of the human race...

A: Bad guys?

Q: (L) Forget I said bad guys. "Shooting at Scorpio." Is there any relationship, symbolically, to the fact that the human bodies...

A: It is all interrelated.

Q: (L) The killing of Osiris, according to the legend, occurred on either the 28th day of Scorpio, or in the 28th year of his life. What is the symbology of the number 28, if any?

A: None.

Q: (L) This book describes the Nordic aliens as having blood with a different chemical base than ours...

A: This is trivial disinformation, "Nordic" Physiology is identical to yours, with the exception being their cranium, which averages 3 per cent larger. Discuss for insight. Must end session.

Q: (L) Thank you.

End of session
 
I tried reading the Ra material back in 2006, and found it pretty clunky and frustrating to read. I concur with others here that the more natural style of communicating used by the C's is preferable. Kinda interesting that it touches on a certain idea on knowledge, that it's not particularly what you know, but how you convey what you know that is more important.

I may have missed out on info because of this, but the rather pretentious lingo just put me off sadly.
 
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