The Situation In Germany
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That first prognosis which had been projected right after 6 PM doesn't correspond with the data that is shown on the webpage of the Federal election administrator. It shows that currently, with the first vote, the AfD (21,3 %) is only slightly behind the CDU (21,5 %) right now [see first diagram in the picture below) while on the second vote the AfD comes out as the strongest force (with 21,7 %), while all other parties are still below 20 % [see second diagram].
By now, 165 from 299 election districts are finished with tallying / counting. Which means there's still way to go.
By now, 165 from 299 election districts are finished with tallying / counting. Which means there's still way to go.
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Yes. That matched Tagesschau live graphics, until cca 1h ago when magically some districts that were marked as counted before, now appeared uncounted and all of the sudden- CDU got in the lead.
At that point I turned my computer off...
All the mainstream and non-mainstream posts on X were by then lamenting about CDU being in the lead! Where did they get those data from, idk.
My kid said that he saw online that people‘s ballots, who voted before today (mail in?) and voted for AfD, were shredded.
Anyway, I guess we’ll see tomorrow…
axj
The Living Force
They count the CSU separately which has 7-8%. Those need to be added to the CDU numbers.
So Elon lost the election?
“Germany voted for suicide,” wrote a disappointed Naomi Seibt. Gen Z’s most prominent AfD influencer in Germany counts Musk as one of her 400,000 social media followers.
Musk, the world’s wealthiest tycoon, had in recent weeks repeatedly urged Germans to cast their ballot not for the conservative right-wing Christian Democrats (CDU)—or even the small-state Liberals (FDP) favored by many entrepreneurs—but for the AfD.
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Elon Musk’s star power fails to help far-right AfD win German election
In spite of the Tesla CEO’s best efforts, the AfD performed no better than had been expected when snap elections were called. While the AfD doubled its support—as predicted—it failed to surpass the conservative Christian Democrats as Musk had hoped. “Germany voted for suicide,” the AfD’s best known Gen Z influencer wrote.“Germany voted for suicide,” wrote a disappointed Naomi Seibt. Gen Z’s most prominent AfD influencer in Germany counts Musk as one of her 400,000 social media followers.
Musk, the world’s wealthiest tycoon, had in recent weeks repeatedly urged Germans to cast their ballot not for the conservative right-wing Christian Democrats (CDU)—or even the small-state Liberals (FDP) favored by many entrepreneurs—but for the AfD.
Elon Musk's star power fails to help far-right AfD win German election
In spite of the Tesla CEO's best efforts, the AfD performed no better than had been expected when snap elections were called.
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axj
The Living Force
No, German patriots lost this election and the globalist-controlled puppets will again form the government.
I asked Grok the following question:
Q: Why Germany is important for Elon Musk?
A: Germany holds significant importance for Elon Musk due to a combination of economic, strategic, and personal factors tied to his business ventures and broader goals.
Economically, Germany is a key hub for Musk’s company Tesla. The Tesla Gigafactory Berlin-Brandenburg, located near Berlin, is a major investment that began production in 2022. This facility is crucial for Tesla’s expansion into the European market, producing electric vehicles like the Model Y and aiming to manufacture advanced battery cells. Germany’s status as Europe’s largest economy and a leader in automotive manufacturing makes it an ideal location for Tesla to establish a strong foothold, compete with established automakers like Volkswagen and BMW, and meet the growing demand for electric vehicles in the region. The factory employs thousands of people and represents a significant commitment to the German economy, which Musk has cited as a reason for his interest in the country’s political and industrial landscape.
Strategically, Germany’s advanced infrastructure, skilled workforce, and central position in Europe align with Musk’s ambitions for innovation and scalability. The Gigafactory not only boosts Tesla’s production capacity but also serves as a testing ground for cutting-edge technologies, such as the 4680 battery cells and structural battery packs, which Musk has highlighted as part of Berlin’s role in Tesla’s future.
Germany’s engineering expertise and its push toward sustainable energy—despite debates over its energy policies—make it a critical partner for Musk’s vision of accelerating the world’s transition to renewable energy.
On a personal level, Musk has expressed admiration for German engineering and culture, often referencing its historical contributions to science and technology. His engagement with Germany extends beyond business, as seen in his vocal involvement in its politics, particularly his support for the Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party ahead of the February 23, 2025, election. Musk has argued that his investments give him a stake in Germany’s direction, suggesting that a government favorable to deregulation and his economic interests could benefit Tesla’s operations. Critics, however, see this as an attempt to influence policies in ways that prioritize his companies over broader societal concerns.
In short, Germany is vital to Musk because it combines economic opportunity, strategic advantage, and a platform to shape policies that align with his goals for Tesla and beyond. Its importance lies in both the tangible benefits it offers his businesses and the symbolic weight it carries as a proving ground for his ideas.
Q: Why Germany is important for Elon Musk?
A: Germany holds significant importance for Elon Musk due to a combination of economic, strategic, and personal factors tied to his business ventures and broader goals.
Economically, Germany is a key hub for Musk’s company Tesla. The Tesla Gigafactory Berlin-Brandenburg, located near Berlin, is a major investment that began production in 2022. This facility is crucial for Tesla’s expansion into the European market, producing electric vehicles like the Model Y and aiming to manufacture advanced battery cells. Germany’s status as Europe’s largest economy and a leader in automotive manufacturing makes it an ideal location for Tesla to establish a strong foothold, compete with established automakers like Volkswagen and BMW, and meet the growing demand for electric vehicles in the region. The factory employs thousands of people and represents a significant commitment to the German economy, which Musk has cited as a reason for his interest in the country’s political and industrial landscape.
Strategically, Germany’s advanced infrastructure, skilled workforce, and central position in Europe align with Musk’s ambitions for innovation and scalability. The Gigafactory not only boosts Tesla’s production capacity but also serves as a testing ground for cutting-edge technologies, such as the 4680 battery cells and structural battery packs, which Musk has highlighted as part of Berlin’s role in Tesla’s future.
Germany’s engineering expertise and its push toward sustainable energy—despite debates over its energy policies—make it a critical partner for Musk’s vision of accelerating the world’s transition to renewable energy.
On a personal level, Musk has expressed admiration for German engineering and culture, often referencing its historical contributions to science and technology. His engagement with Germany extends beyond business, as seen in his vocal involvement in its politics, particularly his support for the Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party ahead of the February 23, 2025, election. Musk has argued that his investments give him a stake in Germany’s direction, suggesting that a government favorable to deregulation and his economic interests could benefit Tesla’s operations. Critics, however, see this as an attempt to influence policies in ways that prioritize his companies over broader societal concerns.
In short, Germany is vital to Musk because it combines economic opportunity, strategic advantage, and a platform to shape policies that align with his goals for Tesla and beyond. Its importance lies in both the tangible benefits it offers his businesses and the symbolic weight it carries as a proving ground for his ideas.
axj
The Living Force
Not really true and this has been pointed out to you before. The AfD is actually skeptical regarding the CO2 scam and "green energy", yet Musk supports them instead of those who would grant more money for his electric cars.
Trump and Musk support the AfD simply because they are nationalists like Trump, as opposed to the globalists who were in power in the US before and are still in power in countries like Germany, France, UK or Canada.
axj
The Living Force
The "conservatives" of the CDU are no different than what the Republicans in the US were before Trump (RINOs or Republicans in Name Only). And considering that the CDU will have to form a government with one or both left-wing parties that were in power until now, not much will change.
The new chancellor (Merz) worked at Blackrock, by the way.
The new chancellor (Merz) worked at Blackrock, by the way.
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
Did I understood this corectly? (I dont live in Germany). CDU changed their political views over the last couple of years, and will form parliamentary coalition with AfD, but CDU guy will be chancelor?
Regardless if it was rigged or not it seems to be quite true that germans tend to have to learn things the hard way before any “real“ change could even happen.
I’m pretty sure that Merz/CDU as chancellor means the exact continuation of the direction of the previous government and that the claim that „very tuff weeks of negotiations are ahead about the building of a coalition“ is just make believe. Found it also telling that Merz stated right afterwards that now 8 weeks of negotiations will follow. As if Germany has all the time in the world and there is no urgency for good governance at all!
I think they already knew before the election that CDU and SPD will be the new overloads and the „tuff negotiations“ now are pretty much just for show. I also think it was already agreed that Scholz will step down and Merz will work with someone else from the SPD in order to pretend that we still have democracy. So the SPD will be back in power as well even though they have gotten the by far worst results in their history and are primarily responsible for the continuation of the mess Merkel started.
Merz is very bad news for Germany IMO.
I’m pretty sure that Merz/CDU as chancellor means the exact continuation of the direction of the previous government and that the claim that „very tuff weeks of negotiations are ahead about the building of a coalition“ is just make believe. Found it also telling that Merz stated right afterwards that now 8 weeks of negotiations will follow. As if Germany has all the time in the world and there is no urgency for good governance at all!
I think they already knew before the election that CDU and SPD will be the new overloads and the „tuff negotiations“ now are pretty much just for show. I also think it was already agreed that Scholz will step down and Merz will work with someone else from the SPD in order to pretend that we still have democracy. So the SPD will be back in power as well even though they have gotten the by far worst results in their history and are primarily responsible for the continuation of the mess Merkel started.
Merz is very bad news for Germany IMO.
No. CDU “changed their views“ by copying what the AfD wants to do, thus pretending that they now, all of a sudden, stand for similar things and thus reducing numbers of people voting for AfD. The AfD has secured the second place now (probably artificially kept low through rigging) and will most likely continue to be ignored in the political process and not be in the government. Meanwhile a government is created that excludes the AfD and will likely be the same boss as before, just worst: Merz.
The above seems pretty likely.
Nević Nenad
The Living Force
So, more of the same. Following the logic, there must be another elections in short period of time and then people will rise against the scam in sufficient numbers.
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