The Situation in Mexico

[rognaill]

Although there is a perception abroad that Mexico is a sexist or macho country, deep down, and particularly among Mexicans, it is known that the society is mainly matriarcal.

Greetings Puma,

Your posts and my proximity have caused me to think on this topic (MX) alot today (if you didn't notice) and something that came to mind about you statement is the book Chalice and the Blade where the somewhat biased author talks about the matriarchal societies before the warring 'sun/son/sol' worshippers took the ball away.

MX is kinda playing out that way, as the mostly agrarian society that indeed revere Guadalupe higher than Jesus (it can seem), is facing the warlike masculine narcos that are laying waste to everything. Interesting to see this happen in our own lifetimes and so interesting to think what the 'history' books will say about our present time, in the future.

The lack of balance is what I am very concerned with and that the temporary achievements of gaining temporary control will harm a great many people not looking for a fight. Not that dissimilar to jihadi mentality, which seems to be a clue as to the source (4D) of their ambitions.

 

[mabar]

She has even been criticized for ultra-feminist messages. Since there is no gender in English words it is difficult to grasp. But she is talking exclusively about women.

At first sight but, the law sanctioning and prohibiting ECOSIGs was recently published in the Official Gazette of the Federation. (Jun 7th)
The ECOSIG are (Efforts to correct sexual orientation and gender identity", acronym in Spanish.)
I guess Claudia needs to change the Constitution because every trans woman is a woman, for the existence of trans woman, trans man, trans kids, in the constitution.

Xóchitl - catholic, she said- the opposition candidate, supposedely from the right party, was praud to manifest that she vote against, against the ECOSIG.

Now, although the government promotes the gender agenda a lot, it has as a counterweight mainly the Catholic Church, which makes most Mexicans adhere to the maxim I mentioned before "obey but do not comply". So there is a lot of tolerance towards the gay in urban centers where that is even seen as something friendly while in rural areas it is tolerated to a certain extent, there is a limit and that is not to mess with family and traditions.

Yes, in rural areas will be difficult to acept it.

Regarding catholic church or catholics for that matter, not as energetic as I would like, or many would like. My sister takes her son to catechism, and there are also talks for parents at the same time. There, she tells me, the subject is discussed.

But, in society, or catholic society at large - supposedely we are a catholic nation, with 72% data from 2020...the subject is not openly discussed, sparks fly and discussions and judgments are made everywhere. For example, with friends that I have known for more than 35 years and who came from the same Catholic school and that throughout the time we have kept similar values, I have realized that this agenda is more powerful, and some friends have even recommended me not to touch the subject because I may offend others.

Mexican society also suffers a lot from "what people will say", so many go with the wind, some take it like fashion, though.

 

[meadow_wind]

This is somewhat concerning and will surely escalate things. I wonder how this will affect Mexico.

Russia considers stationing ballistic missiles south of the US border after declaring Mexico a military ally – NaturalNews.com

Mexico is now officially a military ally of Russia, which is considering placing missiles on Mexican territory in order to attack the United States. Former U.S. Air Force officer Jake Broe took to X to announce that Kremlin State TV announced Russia's new allyship with Mexico, warning that Russia is piece by piece, brick by brick surrounding America with intent to destroy it.

 

[Windmill knight]

This is somewhat concerning and will surely escalate things. I wonder how this will affect Mexico.

Russia considers stationing ballistic missiles south of the US border after declaring Mexico a military ally – NaturalNews.com

Mexico is now officially a military ally of Russia, which is considering placing missiles on Mexican territory in order to attack the United States. Former U.S. Air Force officer Jake Broe took to X to announce that Kremlin State TV announced Russia's new allyship with Mexico, warning that Russia is piece by piece, brick by brick surrounding America with intent to destroy it.

I went to check the source, and it's a Russian talk-show clip. They show a map of 'possible' places to put Russian precision long-range missiles, and some creative TV person highlighted Mexico on the map, as well as other more plausible countries like Cuba, Venezuela, Yemen or North Korea. But there is no assertion that Mexico is a 'military ally' of Russia. Mexico can't change the fact that it shares a border with the US, so I don't think it will ever consent to something that will put it so much in direct confrontation with the US. Overall I'd say this was a case of bad-yellow journalism from Natural News and others.

 

[meadow_wind]

But there is no assertion that Mexico is a 'military ally' of Russia. Mexico can't change the fact that it shares a border with the US, so I don't think it will ever consent to something that will put it so much in direct confrontation with the US. Overall I'd say this was a case of bad-yellow journalism from Natural News and others.

Oh, that's good news! Thanks for double checking. I hate when they do that: distorting the news for click bait.

I would have expected more rigourous journalism from Ethan Huff. He linked Jake Broe's X post. Who's that guy anyway?

I found another questionable news source citing this:

Moscow could deploy ICBMs in Mexico, Russian TV claims

Anchors on the program 60 Minutes discussed the prospect of missiles being fired from countries friendly to Russia.

www.newsweek.com

"Kremlin propagandists have claimed that countries in Latin America, including Mexico, could host missiles that can strike American targets. The comments were made on the program 60 Minutes, whose anchors and guests make frequent threats against the West as they frame Vladimir Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine as a proxy war between Moscow and NATO."

 

[Puma]

I have no idea why this is not getting mainstream media coverage but the Russians on Kremlin State TV yesterday declared that Mexico was their military ally and they are wanting to place their missiles on Mexican territory so Mexico can attack the United States. This is insane. pic.twitter.com/SU7CdhgDEK

Is it because it is fake news?

I don't know who is Jake Broe but has comprehension problems or it was clickbait and he got it.​

"We made a map together with the editorial team..." says the host of the program that Natural news and Jake cite as truth...​

Dumb Jake takes a map made by the editorial staff as true and since Mexico is in "yellow" like Venezuela and Cuba he then deduces that Mexico will allow Russian missiles in the territory. That not only demonstrates his bad faith but his ignorance of Mexican foreign policy of non-intervention in foreign military affairs. A policy that has been in force for decades.​

Even if this were so, there would already be a communiqué from the White House, which is not lazy to issue them when its interests are affected.

In election times anything goes, and I would not hesitate to think that Jake is a Trump supporter.​

 

[mabar]

... Russia's new allyship with Mexico, warning that Russia is piece by piece, brick by brick surrounding America with intent to destroy it.

Oh, the cold war again... America, the one whom has N American bases around the world, screams ... And, on the other hand, America does not need another country to be destroyed, America is distroying itself, brick by brick.

I went to check the source, and it's a Russian talk-show clip. They show a map of 'possible' places to put Russian precision long-range missiles, and some creative TV person highlighted Mexico on the map, as well as other more plausible countries like Cuba, Venezuela, Yemen or North Korea. But there is no assertion that Mexico is a 'military ally' of Russia. Mexico can't change the fact that it shares a border with the US, so I don't think it will ever consent to something that will put it so much in direct confrontation with the US. Overall I'd say this was a case of bad-yellow journalism from Natural News and others.

It won't, but Mexico's relationship with Russia is increasing and that is upseting many. Most media outlets in favor to the U.S. have dedicated themselves to badmouthing Russia and Putin and, I don't doubt that this could be used to try to undermine the relationship.

The Mexicans who follow this media, do not even know about the Nazis in Ukraine, it is unbelievable and should not surprise me, pretty much the same people whom have swallowed other propaganda like the Covid pandemia, the C02 climate change, etc

 

[Navigator]

*Sigh* so Newsweek says that the Russian channel Russia-1 is propaganda, and immediately pushes what the guests of 60 Minutes are saying as proclamation of intention? Please.

Besides, one has to take whatever is said in Russia-1 with a grain of salt, some shows do have a tendency for tabloid-like rhetoric.

 

[mabar]

This happens because they have a deep-rooted anti-Trump bias, whether it's him (Ebrard) or his social media team... Oh boy! bad beginning.

Claudia, the recently elected president, also rushed to defend Ebrard... How is it that they have not deleted the posts, I can't comprehend, several people have already pointed it out to them, though.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814831297514152426

 

[Puma]

This happens because they have a deep-rooted anti-Trump bias, whether it's him (Ebrard) or his social media team... Oh boy! bad beginning.

In another part of his speech, Trump mocks the fact that Ebrard had to go consult with President Obrador to get Mexico to meet his demands for 28,000 troops to protect the border.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814891718002811075

Some are taking parts of Trump's speeches to advance their hate agendas. They would like to see the U.S. military in Mexico bringing "democracy"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814893054710722795

Really? That's stupid, no one forces their young people to take drugs.

And Vance's mother almost died from Mexican drugs ... oh yeah.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814894844999049408

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[mabar]

In another part of his speech, Trump mocks the fact that Ebrard had to go consult with President Obrador to get Mexico to meet his demands for 28,000 troops to protect the border.

Well, as we say here, who told him to laugh in his face in the first place?

Maybe it doesn't sound bad to me that both countries protect the border. The issue of the wall, which many people are so incensed about, is ridiculous to say the least.

At one time I thought that since the U.S., through its policies so that it alone would win, then having the country filled with migrants was like karma. Until I began to see it differently.
However, being the subject complex, I find myself with internal contradictions.

Some are taking parts of Trump's speeches to advance their hate agendas. They would like to see the U.S. military in Mexico bringing "democracy"

Do you really think to be a "hate agenda" get rid off the cartels?

I mean, in the sense that they would really going against that organized crime, which by the way, Mexico had had enough.
Of course, given the long history of US military meddling in many countries. I doubt its true intentions as well. And we had already the experience with Calderón's war on drugs, that only served to give more weapons to the cartels.

Really? That's stupid, no one forces their young people to take drugs.

Yes they do, in very different ways. But it is not clear to me in reference to what you made the comment, though.

And Vance's mother almost died from Mexican drugs ... oh yeah.

I do not know the veracity or falsity of his words.... But it is a fact that for drugs to arrive up there, they have to have a good distribution channel within the U.S., and well, I guess he needs to make use of Mexico's guilt because it is participating in letting N thousand people leave the country (Mexico).

The primal issue here is the open border.

 

[Puma]

Do you really think to be a "hate agenda" get rid off the cartels?

I would not like to see my country bombed or intervened militarily as in other countries.

Yes they do,

In what ways have Mexican cartels forced young Americans to use drugs?

they have to have a good distribution channel within the U.S.,

So where are the U.S. cartels, who are the capos, the accomplices there? Why doesn't the US start by cleaning up its territory and helping its young people?

 

[mabar]

I would not like to see my country bombed or intervened militarily as in other countries.

In that I agree with you, and even more so now with the way things are going, all with double-speak, the tentacles of corruption have reached unimaginable levels.

And it would be appalling if they did it a la IDF, ‘because there was a drug dealer in that house, we decided to kill the whole community’ ...there was a drug dealer who was not ours and he was giving us a lot of trouble and taking clients ... many nations/nationalities are involved in this drug business.

Although, I think it would be naive to think that intervention is not already taking place, all for the sake of the narrative of national sovereignty. Cooperation in specific situations they call it now.

In what ways have Mexican cartels forced young Americans to use drugs?

In the similar way they do it here? first they invite by trying and then force them to continue using. For at least 15 years, school principals have been asking parents to pick up their children from junior high school because there are drug dealers around. Schools have become very unsafe... I think it's disastrous. This has been going on for as long as I can remember, but maybe ...kids were still going out and coming back alone, not anymore.

While working at in Mexico City, I gave permission to an employee to pick up and take her kid home during primary and juior hig school as well, outside of her break time, it was an extra permission.

For me it is a way of forcing things.

So where are the U.S. cartels, who are the capos, the accomplices there? Why doesn't the US start by cleaning up its territory and helping its young people?

I understand the questioning, they never talk about it, it's always the ones from other countries.

 

[Puma]

The truth is that Ukraine did not ask, it demanded the Mexican government to detain President Putin

Ukraine asks Mexico to detain Putin if he attends Sheinbaum's inauguration​

The Ukrainian embassy in Mexico on Wednesday asked the Mexican government to arrest the president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, in case he attends the inauguration of Claudia Sheinbaum as president next October 1.

"We trust that the Mexican government would in any case comply with the international arrest warrant by handing over the aforementioned (Putin) to the United Nations judicial body in The Hague," the embassy said in a statement.

Mexico is a signatory to the Rome Statute, the constituent instrument of the International Criminal Court which establishes that "it is the duty of every State to exercise its criminal jurisdiction over those responsible for international crimes".

https://www.eleconomista.com.mx/politica/Ucrania-pide-a-Mexico-detener-a-Putin-si-acude-a-la-toma-de-protesta-de-Sheinbaum-20240807-0104.html

For his part, President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador completely ruled out Putin's arrest. "We cannot do that, that does not correspond to us; we are against war, for peace", declared the Mexican president.

The U.S. State Department recognized the "sovereign right" of Mexican authorities to invite whomever they wish, although it WARNED that "the presence of an autocrat responsible for so much death and destruction could dwarf what will be a historic moment in Mexico".

Maybe they mistook Putin for Netanyahu...​

https://twitter.com/x/status/1816178169998897304

Or not.

 

[gdpetti]

Putin attend the Mex Prez inauguration? Why?!?!? Not BRICS et al.... this is just propaganda puppet show theatrics at best. I never heard of it, so must have been for local consumption... wherever that locale is. It's already been said that Mexico is controlled by the same families that control Canada and the US empire... and they don't attend to puppet shows they put on. It seems this propaganda project was a failure at best. One of those ops that get thrown out to see if anything sticks.... everyday there are so many.