I've been doing a lot of research on Thiamine deficiency in the past two weeks including all the brilliant work @Keyhole has been doing on this vital nutrient these past couple of years. Thank you very much. Reading the research has made me realise I've been having a lot of the symptoms typical of Thiamine deficiency; chronic physical and mental fatigue, neurosis, bouts of insomnia, exercise intolerance, anxiety, heat intolerance and feeling of being disconnected, as well as bouts of constipation and calf muscle cramping. I've started taking 50 mg of Thiamine, but only the HCl form, as well as Magnesium Malate 200 mg, Vit C 1000g (Lipsomal at the moment but I intend to get Ascorbic Acid and take a higher dose), Vit D3 5000 mg and a good multivitamin and mineral supplement. However, I hope to start with TTFD soon when it arrives and I'll report on my progress. I've also been reading through the thread on Iodine and intend to try that in the near future (it's a long thread so it'll take a while) but considering a lot of my symptoms are pointing to Thiamine deficiency I've decided to concentrate on that for now. As regards diet I'm working on reducing my carb intake, I've always been an avid carnivore (Rib eye steak is my favourite, the fattier steak) but due to my symptoms I've been reaching for the carbs too much.
Even on the Thiamine HCl I've noticed some improvement, so I'm looking forward to supplementing on the TTFD as it crosses the BBB. I'm pretty sure it'll give me the mental focus for dietary and lifestyle changes.
Hi @Ursus Minor. I had a look at the Pure Encapsulations website and it's certainly a much better and purer option than the Nutri Advanced brand I'm using at the moment. I would like to switch to TTFD form of Thiamine for its better BBB penetration though.Concerning physical and mental fatigue I have resorted to a Vitamin B combination supplement ('B complex plus' by 'pure encapsulations').
It contains 100 mg of Thiamine HCI (B 1), 100 mg of Niacinamide (B 3), 100 mg of pantothenic acid (B 5), 10 mg of Inositol (B 3), P-5-P (activated B 6), Riboflavin-5-phosphate (activated B 2) each and 5 mg of Riboflavin (B 2).
Further you get 400 mcg each of biotin, folate and methylcobalamin (B 12).
I haven't been able to get up to date yet on the Magnesium thread and I've noticed Magnesium biglycinate mentioned in posts since my last time on the forum when Magnesium Malate was considered a good bioavailable form. So I'll have a look on the Magnesium thread and check the information on Magnesium biglysinate.n addition I'm taking Magnesium bisglycinate (150 mg), Vitamin D 3 (250 mcg/ 10,000 units) every four days.
BTW: Are you sure you're taking 5,000 mg of D 3?
This is something I want to look more at. The supplementation was really to give a boost to my mental focus and energy while I look at the psyche, diet and other factors. I hope to do so in the Swamp and other threads soon.Judging from my own experience I'd say that neurotic symptoms and anxiety do not always derive from supplemental deficiencies
In childhood, your parents may fight and this overwhelms you with emotion. The stress causes you to develop stomach pain, but because you are overwhelmed you don't feel it as a symptom of sickness but as indistinguishable from the emotions you are feeling about your parents fighting. And from then ever after, every time you eat a carrot you get depressed because the stomach pain caused by the carrot is indistinguishable from the emotional pain you felt during childhood. I think for many people this process envelopes almost every experience they have of illness, and so they just don't realize how bad they feel and how it is affecting them.
If you merely stop eating carrots you will still have this emotional trigger from stomach pain that will incapacitate you to some degree and cause thinking errors.
If you somehow resolve your childhood feelings, you will still get stomach pain from eating carrots.
I visited my doctor in June, made the ECG, blood and urine test, and everything was ok according to her, but just in case she also sent me to check my thyroid hormones, and everything was ok with that too, so she said that the problem must be in my head, that I shouldn’t fear so much, and she prescribed me some betablocker and something for blood-pressure, which I never took, and Alprazolam 0.5mg which I took for the first time yesterday afternoon because I felt strong panic and fear during waves of tachycardia. I asked my doctor about gastroscopy but she said that I’m young and healthy and there’s no need for that, that I just need to calm down.
Last week I went to the Emergency because of a really high blood pressure, heartbeats and pain in the left shoulder and arm - I thought I was having a heart attack and that I will die, it also felt like a strong fire sensation in my chest area, but after ECG and blood and urine tests were done I was told that it’s just some “sinus tachycardia” and everything is fine with me, no signs of any infection or inflammation.
Yesterday I took it again and at first I was feeling well, with more energy, but then the same thing happened with dizziness and all, coming in waves more strongly and I was panicking a bit so I took that 0.5mg Alprazolam in the evening because it just continued throughout the day, exhausting me and making me fear for my life. But I wonder if that is connected to the refeeding syndrome because, since May, I’ve lost about 7kg gradually (I’m 155cm in height), regardless of the amount of food I eat daily. Maybe I should just stop taking thiamine and stop making mess with myself not knowing what I’m doing. My husband is taking all these daily and he’s feeling ok with it. However, these problems are not coming only when I take it, so I don’t know what is causing all this.
FWIW, that could very well be true, anxiety and panic are not necessarily (although they certainly could be) caused by there being something physically wrong. For instance it can be caused by the nervous system reacting to various factors in our external and internal life (such as strong, painful emotions, parts of ourselves that we don't want to acknowledge or deal with, etc.), that are perceived as a threat to our personal integrity or values (or false personality in Work terminology). This reacting by the nervous system happens largely unconsciously, that's why it might feel like panic and anxiety are coming out of the nowhere. All of this causes stress hormones to rise drastically, which can then cause panic and the feeling like you're going to have a heart attack or die, but nobody actually dies from a panic attack, that feeling is the result of stress hormones flooding your system. The tricky thing is that it makes you afraid of having another panic attack, which can set up a pattern of avoidance, which then increases both anxiety and panic. From what I've read on the topic, they way to deal with these intense sensations and accompanying emotions is to actually invite them in, allow them to be without resisting and to become aware of them, and not to try and get rid of them. It can feel overwhelming at first, but it gets better with practice. In fact, trying to get rid of these sensations and emotions has an opposite effects, and they cannot be gotten rid of in the first place, only transformed and turned into something else. Avoidance can cause them to be trapped in the body and our physiology, which could explain the shaking you mentioned during EE.
You could give it a try and see what happens. Maybe adopt both a top down and bottom up approach. A few examples:
Rosenburg's basic exercise a few times a day.
If you're having trouble with EE, try just deep diaphragmatic belly breathing, accompanied by sensing and relaxing various parts of your body.
Arky Chu Gong or at least parts of it (if you have the energy).
Walking in nature.
Maybe a leptin reset could help with the hunger.
Knowledge input on a daily basis.
Hope that helps a bit, take care.