Toulouse Shootings

Heard at Radio France :
The police was not able to use incapacitating gases in such a place (a small apartment) and "we are not in a movie here" as one of their boss said.

Pass along, there is nothing to see !

Really impossible to put to sleep a lone guy in a closed area in 2012 ?..
 
Akopirnas said:

Hi Akopirnas, here is my quick translation from the beginning and toward the end, not being able right now to translate the whole text :

He is defending the Jews because he is anti-racist, Nicolas Chapuis. As a mundane antisem anti-Zionist, the deportation of the Jews revolts him- well… not the one of the living Jews in Israel of course.
That a Muslim kills Jews disgusts him.
Nicolas Chapuis is not disgusted that Jewish children were cold-bloodedly killed. No. What is revolting for Nicolas Chapuis is that they were not, as in the good old days, killed by a nazi.
Nicolas Chapuis has not been taught to get into indignation against antisemitism from the Muslims. In fact, he repeats what he has been told, that there is no existing antisemitism from the Muslims, and still less from the Palestinians.

In France, the auto-proclaimed moralists see only the anti-Semitism from the rightists .
And they will continue to blame Israel who dare defend its children to avoid the fate of those of Toulouse…
 
According to a report published in Le Monde on Thursday, Merah was not a member of any well-known Islamic terrorist organization, but did undergo a process of radicalization. Merah also reportedly had entry stamps to Israel and other countries in the region in his passport.

Don´t know if this is still accurate, but years ago when you entered into Israel you had the choice not to have the stamp in your passport, but on a separate paper. This was to avoid, I was told, that other countries would refuse entry because of the Israeli stamp. Now, if this is still the case, then I wonder why this guy would have stamps inside his passport and why it is reported. I also wonder, if he was their on mossad business, why they would put traces of that in his pasport. To me it smells a bit like a countermove. If Mossad was involved, then some of the French indicate that both parties are into the secret and both could use this to tell on the other. So both have to keep the silence. FWIW.
 
Esote said:
Heard at Radio France :
The police was not able to use incapacitating gases in such a place (a small apartment) and "we are not in a movie here" as one of their boss said.

Pass along, there is nothing to see !

Really impossible to put to sleep a lone guy in a closed area in 2012 ?..
Well, using gaz is very difficult. See what happened during the hostage takedown in the Moscow Theater : the gaz actually killed more hostages than terrorists. The dosage must be extremely accurate : a little too low and the target is just slightly numbed, a little too high and the target is killed.

Even if Merah's death seems a little bit too convenient, I think that our researchs have to focus on the events before the RAID assault : the contradictory descriptions of the killer(s) and the bike(s), the plot-hole filled killer's agenda...
 
Their utter stupidity would be comical, if the consequences weren't so disastrous for all.

Always the same thing happens! Something terrible happens and the people have to pay the price. This shows how sick our politicians are. Suffer, suffer, they tell us. Be responsible for something you didn't do. And people say: OK, master. At your orders.

I also see that people around me or in the list of my Spanish friends, nobody cares about this story. How come! :O So I see that people are not conscient that what happens outside our borders is a sign, something to be aware of. They are not conscient about the globalization of this world. And also they are very narcissistic. But the laws that the president Zarkozy will put in march specially concerning Internet are a global problem! Oh, boy. :cool2:

The quote is from Bngenoh. I am sorry, I have to learn more strictly how to quote correctly. :-[
 
Polonel said:
Well, using gaz is very difficult. See what happened during the hostage takedown in the Moscow Theater : the gaz actually killed more hostages than terrorists. The dosage must be extremely accurate : a little too low and the target is just slightly numbed, a little too high and the target is killed.

If it would be a hostage situation, that reasoning would be true, but we are talking about a guy who supposedly "want to die with a gun in his hand". In that case, there was every chance and reason to try a gas and other options. Apart from that, are there not non-lethal weapons that can be use to incapacitate a person, like tasers etc.. But these special forces went there with one objective in mind, shoot to kill.

I think it is obvious that there were lots of options they could have used to take this guy without killing him, but they rejected all of that to silence him.

My two cents, fwiw.
 
Just saw this video on Youtube: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p9VzzqO5RBc&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2Fp9VzzqO5RBc

I'm quite shore that person who is trying to escape jumping over balcony is shot from behind in back of his head. You can hear shot being fired in first second of the video and then, blurry thou, like something hits him from behind, right in his head. Please take notice, this video is very disturbing.
 
Hi Regulattor,

This is the video of a man who was tasered by police and fall in Canada:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKE4ajyRVSU

Go to 00:36 to see the fall.
 
Regulattor said:
Just saw this video on Youtube: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p9VzzqO5RBc&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2Fp9VzzqO5RBc

I'm quite shore that person who is trying to escape jumping over balcony is shot from behind in back of his head. You can hear shot being fired in first second of the video and then, blurry thou, like something hits him from behind, right in his head. Please take notice, this video is very disturbing.
When I went there, it wanted me to sign in so I went to find another. Is this the same one?

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcFYjX8LLrI
 
bngenoh said:
Commentator: Why didn't you protect us oh dear and merciful big brother?" "You are too kind & gentle, you must institute measures to stem the tide."
Big Brother: OH, the pain, i do not want to restrict your freedoms, it is with a heavy heart that i institute these measures, rest assured that when the threat has passed, it will be as it once was.

They have it pretty well sown up eh? Or so they think.

Mr Molins said there was also footage of the school massacre, and added that all of Merah's conversations with negotiators during the siege had been recorded and would be used in the forthcoming inquiry.

If, and that's a big "if", the public gets to hear these tapes, we'll keep in mind that such tapes can be very easily manufactured.

[quote author=bngenoh]Wasn't the recording device that the shooter supposedly had, very conveniently worn around his neck, so that all you would see is arms with gun(s), shooting and reloading, with the victims screaming and writhing in pain. Then all you have to do is plant the tape on whomever, and voila you have your killer. Just like the passports on 911.
[/quote]

Same MO, over and over again.
 
Biomiast said:
Hi Regulattor,

This is the video of a man who was tasered by police and fall in Canada:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKE4ajyRVSU

Go to 00:36 to see the fall.
Thx for clarifying! Much better perspective from this angle.
 
With the ridiculous stupidity of this affair, and it's self evident ludicrousness. This extract from the recent session is very pertinent:
Laura said:
Q: (L) Alright, I think we're about done, aren't we? (Belibaste) You want to ask about 2012? (L) They kinda covered that. (Belibaste) I mean, not what people say about 2012, but what would a sentence or keyword about 2012 is...
A: Revolution!

Q: (L) In other words, they will try to use 2012 to impose their complete totalitarian controls on the planet, but they won't get the reaction they expect. Is that it?
A: Yes!!!!
We haven't even finished March yet, and we can see that their plans are backfiring big time, these are the consequences of wishful thinking, for all to see.

This article brings all that has happened in the last week in France (WOW, one week, wonder what 1 month will bring) together. Together with Joe's article and the big picture becomes more coherent: https://www.sott.net/articles/show/243330-French-President-Sarkozy-Sees-Opportunity-for-Censorship-Seizes-It
 
Maybe they are reading our comments on non-lethal weapons. Check out what RAID chief had to say:

Mohamed Merah launched a real ‘counter assault’ on fifteen elite French police officers who stormed his premises armed with only non-lethal weaponry, RAID chief Amaury de Hautecloque, said in an interview with Le Monde.

­The police had blown the doors and windows open and sent robots with thermal imaging and night vision cameras to search the flat. Merah was discovered in the bathroom standing in 30cm of water wearing a bullet-proof vest beneath his black Arab robe.

"He was waiting in a fighter's stance with unflinching determination,” Hautecloque said. “He came out to meet us with three colt 45s of 11.43 caliber.”

“This is the first time in my life I’ve seen someone as we launch an assault come and lead the assault against us,” he added.

During a furious close-quarter battle he was shot in the head as he was trying to jump out of the window. Some 45 personnel including several snipers were in support roles, Hautecloque said.

"I gave the order to return fire only with stun grenades,” he explained. “But he moved forward into the apartment and tried to kill my men. It was probably one of these snipers who killed him."

_http://www.rt.com/news/merah-toulouse-gunman-police-assault-344/

RT said there were 300 rounds fired in the assault. Are you telling me all of these rounds were fired with 3 Colt 45 with no chance to reload? And check out this video that recorded the noise during the operation. Does it sound like a single guy shooting his gun(keeping in mind what Mac said earlier) or is it something else?

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbJTHuX-FpA
 
Some have claimed the infowars is heavily funded by Israeli interest. Notice, not even any speculation of a false flag operation by the Israel intelligence.

Also the phone call to the press in the wee hours before the police encounter, and the supposed narrative of the news caster as being a conversation that has become main stream press fact.

Sure why not, add just another jagged, and carved piece to the distoreted puzzle.

If walks like duck, and quakes like a duck, then it's cow.


French Terror Attack: All the Hallmarks of an Intelligence Psy-op a...
Kurt Nimmo
_http://www.infowars.com/french-terror-attack-all-the-hallmarks-of-a...
March 21, 2012
Mohammed Merah, the suspect in the killing of seven people outside a Jewish school in Toulouse, France, fits the pattern of an al-Qaeda intelligence asset. According to the BBC, he was on the radar of French authorities because of visits he made to Afghanistan and the “militant stronghold” of Waziristan in Pakistan.

More specifically, Merah was handled by France’s DCRI intelligence service “for years,” according to Claude Guéant, the interior minister.

More specifically, Merah was handled by France’s DCRI intelligence service “for years,” according to Claude Guéant, the interior minister.

Merah, a French citizen of Algerian origin, was arrested on December 19, 2007, and was sentenced to three years in jail for planting bombs in the southern province of Kandahar in Afghanistan.

In April of 2011, the United States admitted it has operated secret military prisons in Afghanistan where suspected terrorists are held and interrogated without charges.

The notorious Bagram airbase detention center is operated by the Joint Special Operations Command and the DIA’s Defense Counterintelligence and Human Intelligence Center (DCHC).

The DCHC “will be responsible for developing an ‘offensive counterintelligence operations’… capability for the Department of Defense, which may entail efforts to penetrate, deceive and disable foreign intelligence activities directed against U.S. forces,” Secrecy News reported in 2008 after the government announced the creation of DCHC.

The Pentagon and the CIA specialize in creating terrorists as part of a so-called covert and unconventional war doctrine dating back to the end of the Second World War (see Michael McClintock’s Instruments of Statecraft: U.S. Guerilla Warfare, Counterinsurgency... for an in-depth examination).

Mohammed Merah called France 24 before shootings.

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AXhKvs3pEww

Although virtually ignored by the corporate media, it is an established fact that the CIA and Pakistani intelligence created what is now known as al-Qaeda out of the remnants of the Afghan mujahideen following the CIA’s covert three billion dollar war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

It was the so-called Safari Club – organized under the CIA and with the participation of intelligence agencies in France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco and (under the Shah) Iran – that ramped up the largely contrived threat of international terrorism prior to and during the CIA’s manufactured war in Afghanistan (see Peter Dale Scott, Launching the U.S. Terror War: the CIA, 9/11, Afghanistan, and Cent...).

Intelligence agencies have specialized in the covert – and not so covert – creation of terrorists which are then used to provide a cynical raison d’être for launching military intervention around the world and also providing a pretext to build and expand a domestic surveillance police state.

A textbook example of this process is the Christmas Day, 2009, underwear bomber fiasco – subsequently exposed as a false flag event – that was exploited to push for installing dangerous radiation-emitting naked body porno scanners at U.S. airports.

The fact Mohammed Merah was in the custody of the Joint Special Operations Command in Afghanistan – and his supposed jail break at the Sarposa Prison was reportedly orchestrated by the Taliban (also cretaed by the CIA and Pakistan’s ISI) – certainly raises questions about the attack in France, where a national election will soon be held.

The Telegraph reports that the attacks of the supposedly al-Qaeda connected Merah will play into the election bid of National Front candidate Marine Le Pen, who is unlikely to ever become the president of France.

France is on its Highest Anti-Terror Alert After Shooting
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=peBmPH6UVcA
 
New reports are reporting that Mehrah got hit by over 20 bullets (one in his head (temple) one in his soft part that caused death) and the rest in arms and legs. Sounds like someone wanted to make sure, that he is not surviving. And then there are also reports that he had no connections to al-qaida or reports are unconfirmed.

***edit***

This questions even how he did get out of the window and that he couldn't be a threat.
 
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