Toulouse Shootings

The way this story is unfolding makes one's head spinning and one's stomach turning. :evil:

Now they say that Merah was on a US "no fly" list.
_http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/french-school-shooter-us-fly-list/story?id=15981115#.T2uZkfWrQ4c

Laura said:
I do think the whole thing was a show, start to finish. And certainly MOSSAD was involved in helping out because I don't think the French police/gov is on top of those kinds of things; their science is still waaaaaay backward.
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Another piece of "emerging" information:
_http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-suspect-in-french-jewish-school-shooting-visited-israel-1.420249

Hours after the death of Mohamed Merah, the man suspected of the shootings in Toulouse and Montauban, new details emerged which seemed to contradict previous reports regarding his identity.

According to a report published in Le Monde on Thursday, Merah was not a member of any well-known Islamic terrorist organization, but did undergo a process of radicalization. Merah also reportedly had entry stamps to Israel and other countries in the region in his passport.
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And speaking of Psychos not being creative...behold the Soldiers of Caliphate, as expected, "a little-known extremist group":

Meanwhile, a little-known extremist group on Thursday claimed responsibility for a series of deadly shootings in France, saying they were in response to what it called "Israel's crimes" against the Palestinians.

"The jihadists everywhere are keen to avenge every drop of blood unfairly shed in Palestine, Afghanistan and elsewhere in Muslim countries," said the self-styled group, Soldiers of Caliphate, in a statement posted on a militant website called Supporters of the Mujhadeen.
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Keit said:
And speaking of Psychos not being creative...behold the Soldiers of Caliphate, as expected, "a little-known extremist group":
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Their utter stupidity would be comical, if the consequences weren't so disastrous for all.
 
Ailén said:
And how he kept shooting while he was falling, although he had just received a gunshot in his head??
Oh wait, "turrerists" have Super-Powers, of course. Now, that explains it! :curse:
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Yup. Here is the proof. Or the winner for most preposterous three short paragraphs?

_http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0322/breaking1.html
March 22, 2012, 16:46

"At the moment when a video probe was sent into the bathroom, the killer came out of the bathroom, firing with extreme violence" Mr Guéant said.

Mr Guéant said Merah was firing several guns at once. "In the end, Mohamed Merah jumped from the window with his gun in his hand, continuing to fire. He was found dead on the ground," he told reporters at the scene. Two police commandos were wounded," he said.

He was firing frantically at police from a Colt 45 pistol as he climbed through his apartment window onto a verandah and toppled to the ground some 5 feet (1.5 metres) below, according to prosecutors and police.

Merah died from a gunshot wound to the head.
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And then, of course we have this:

Mr Sarkozy called Merah's killings terrorist attacks and announced a crackdown on people following extremist websites."From now on, any person who habitually consults websites that advocate terrorism or that call for hate and violence will be punished," he said in a statement.

"France will not tolerate ideological indoctrination on its soil."
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It's quite interesting to see the difference in thinking between the average man(different dutch forums) and the sharp-minded people(on this forum), I have been reading lots of different dutch sites who are carrying this news as well and reading the comments on those sites and forum it just baffles the mind how so many people just buy whatever the media is selling them without questioning ANYTHING, they all just go baffle around about muslims being the core problem, while none of all those 1000 people see the psychopathic game that is being played with their minds. Extremely saddening...
 
Bo said:
it just baffles the mind how so many people just buy whatever the media is selling them without questioning ANYTHING
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Most people take everything at face value. I've thought long and hard for years about why.
Apart from the blatant perception management and the obvious propagandizing to which they have gotten used to, the main reason why people are less suspicious nowadays than they seemed to be in the era of the written word stems from the fact that they have seen it with their own eyes and heard the talking heads' explanations about what it all means. Most people don't want to know the truth, they want to be reassured that all is as it should be and to be comforted in their sleepy existence. Very hard, if not near to impossible to get through such attitudes with REAL facts.
I didn't reach any solutions for this conundrum, yet.
 
Mr Molins said the authorities had recovered videos from Merah's apartment showing the attacks.

"These films are extremely explicit, as we were able to verify yesterday, in which evidently we see him during his encounter with a soldier who he shot twice, saying to him: 'You kill my brothers, I kill you'," said Mr Molins.

"Then we also see him killing the soldiers in Montauban in an extremely violent scene, fleeing on his scooter whilst shouting 'Allahu akbar' [God is great]."

Mr Molins said there was also footage of the school massacre, and added that all of Merah's conversations with negotiators during the siege had been recorded and would be used in the forthcoming inquiry.
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I just can't believe the amount of supidity coming from this story. All that's missing is that they decide to bury him in the sea! I mean, c'mon, are we supposed to believe he took a video of himself while shooting people, and in such a way that we "evidently see him" in action sequences firing and fleeing on his scooter?? I can't possibly imagine what that looks like! Was he holding the video camera with his left extended arm while he performed, perhaps smiling now and then and hoping to catch his best angle, all the while coming up with those idiotic 'bad guy' lines?? ("I kill you!") Or did he just set up a tripod nearby which he then picked up after fleeing?? Obviosuly not, so if there is any such thing as a video (don't think so), it certainly does not "evidently" show the killer to prove anything at all.

It's like all they need to do is say "Video!", and people will go "ahhh, that proves it then". Not that we'll ever see it, of course - just as we never saw any actual, clear video of Flight 77, nor the body of Osama, etc. How thick can people be?
 
I think people accept the official version because in part they are bored. They don't have imagination, this capacity to see forward, to investigate and to look in the holes of a version that is nonsense. People are grey, in their minds. It is to much to ask them to open a little bit their brains and bring light in it. And they are the defenders of the status quo. Oh! they are so boring. They make me mad. :jawdrop:
 
Windmill Knight:
Windmill knight said:
I just can't believe the amount of supidity coming from this story. All that's missing is that they decide to bury him in the sea! I mean, c'mon, are we supposed to believe he took a video of himself while shooting people, and in such a way that we "evidently see him" in action sequences firing and fleeing on his scooter?? I can't possibly imagine what that looks like! Was he holding the video camera with his left extended arm while he performed, perhaps smiling now and then and hoping to catch his best angle, all the while coming up with those idiotic 'bad guy' lines?? ("I kill you!") Or did he just set up a tripod nearby which he then picked up after fleeing?? Obviosuly not, so if there is any such thing as a video (don't think so), it certainly does not "evidently" show the killer to prove anything at all.

It's like all they need to do is say "Video!", and people will go "ahhh, that proves it then". Not that we'll ever see it, of course - just as we never saw any actual, clear video of Flight 77, nor the body of Osama, etc. How thick can people be?
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You got it right on the money with this one.
 
Im reading posts here still asking the question "How can people be stupid enough to believe this nonsense"
Folks we know some of the answers to that question. We can not look at people as being a whole functioning being.Along with what has been written here over the years i.e. Gurdjieffs work regarding humans right up to the book I am reading presently "Thinking fast and slow" by Daniel Kahneman and much more. We are not in control , we know not who we are or what makes us tick even though many on this planet would think we do,and are.

We are going to see and hear more , much more BS and horror as the psychopaths and people in general with no understanding of what it is to truly be human go amok.

It saddens me as I attempt to grow while eating the paleo equivalent of popcorn.


We are an easy depleted prey on many levels , education and health.

France is closing shop.
 
Laura said:
I do think the whole thing was a show, start to finish. And certainly MOSSAD was involved in helping out because I don't think the French police/gov is on top of those kinds of things; their science is still waaaaaay backward.
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I think so too. I doubt there was anyone in that apartment. The only French forces who went near the apartment were the R.A.I.D. (cute acronym, huh?), France's 'elite counter-terrorism force', which would be trained for exactly these kinds of GLADIO type psy-ops. They would be in the know that their job is to create the illusion of terrorism to protect the country from the 'dangers' of Soviet/Communist/Socialist (basically, human) control of the state.

Mossad could have volunteered to take care of Merah in the days running up to the staged siege. They like hurting Arabs after all. Their friends in the media would help prepare the background disinfo on the patsy and get it distributed through the right channels. They would have several layers of disinfo ready to go out - doesn't matter if one part of one story conflicts with another, they'll just weave it together as events unfold.

Et voila, France has its 9/11.
 
It is fascinating and horrifying to watch this story unfold and change with more absurdities added by the hour.

Ok, so this guy comes out of the bathroom, with a 45 automatic, into the hall or living room of his small apartment. He gets off 30 rounds while an elite police team is coming at him. Only 2 policemen are wounded.

From my military training with the M1911 decades ago I can assure that this isn't possible. This pistol has a hell of a recoil causing the barrel to rise with each round. You have to bring the sights back down and re-aim each time. And you a have to grip it with both hands to even do that.
He would have had to change magazines at least twice to get anywhere near 30 rounds off. What were the police doing, sitting there on the sofa sipping tea?

No wait he was firing 3 guns at once!

Then he falls a full 5 feet out the bathroom window with to his death. No, he was shot then fell, errr... or maybe he was shot as he was falling, of course firing at least a magazine as he fell.

And most are swallowing it without question. The way the story is being told in the media wouldn't even make a plausible cheap movie plot.

In a flight of imagination I thought of what it would have been like if SOTT and the forum had been around when JFK was murdered. The official story would have been shredded inside a week. Right on, team. You're great!

Mac
 
If he came out of the bathroom firing like crazy, he then had to TURN AROUND to go back in and out the bathroom window. That means that his back would be to the police... And they couldn't take him down with a shot to the knee??? We are talking Keystone Kops here.
 
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