Transgender "out of the blue" - a new kind of Gender Dysphoria

Zzartemis

Dagobah Resident
From @Esprit 's post:
"kids are not able to make these life altering decisions at certain ages in fact in case you didn't know guys, there's a huge movement of detransitioning kids right now kids who were transitioning in their early teens and who are now in their mid 20s and they're realizing they've made a huge mistake."

Exactly! This is why, in the past, I fought to keep military recruiters out of schools; they were pitching to children as young as 12. What the data shows is that enlistment drops exponentially after the age of 20 or 21, because until that age, children cannot think far enough into the future to consider what might be the consequences of their choices.

This entire 'movement' towards influencing our children has been contrived and long planned. I've stated before that I believe it fits in, ultimately, with depopulation of the planet, from the apex of control.

Has anyone ever considered the very sudden appearance of transgendered persons in government (and it is at all levels, down to towns) and schools? Has anyone ever wondered at the gross over representation of the population, not only in these institutions, but in the media and entertainment industries too?

Except when I look at Michelle Obama, the PM OF New Zealand, and Lady Gaga, I see that they didn't have their genitalia chopped off and reformed into the opposite. I don't know about current surgical expertise, but what I read, in the past, concerning what was constructed was a poor excuse for a penis or a vagina and intercourse was painful, if not impossible. These were from testimonies of trans who deeply regretted their decisions, once they matured.

I won't go into much on why this is an abomonation when presented to young children. But I will ask the question, why is it so all important for teachers/adults to have discussions with the very young? (toddlers to pre-teens) What is the incessant need of individuals to discuss their orientations to children? What is their need to make appearences so freakishly different? Yeah, I dressed outlandishly as a teen....but then I grew up, on time, not pushing any agenda, well into my adulthood, thru my appearance. And I have no need for ppl to except me as I am. I grew up with a well developed sense of self.

Below is a very long and very good explaintion from a young woman, a 'detransitioner,' who takes much time to explain how she was led into making decisions that harmed her and took away from any real issues that needed healed, what information was withheld, and more.

SNIP:
“My name is Helena, and as of this writing I’m a 23-year-old woman who, as a teenager, believed I was transgender. In the years since detransitioning (stopping testosterone treatment and no longer seeing myself as transgender), I’ve become interested in exploring why, in the last decade, nearly every English-speaking country has seen a meteoric rise in adolescents believing they are transgender and pursuing cosmetic medical and surgical interventions. Here, I’d like to go over how and why I came to see myself as transgender, the process of transitioning, and the events leading up to and following my detransition.

The short version of my detransition story for those who want the bare details is that when I was fifteen, I was introduced to gender ideology on Tumblr and began to call myself nonbinary. Over the next few years, I would continue to go deeper and deeper down the trans identity rabbit hole, and by the time I was eighteen, I saw myself as a “trans man”, otherwise known as “FtM”. Shortly after my eighteenth birthday, I made an appointment at a Planned Parenthood to begin a testosterone regimen. At my first appointment, I was prescribed testosterone, and I would remain on this regimen for a year and a half. It had an extremely negative effect on my mental health, and I finally admitted what a disaster it had been when I was 19, sometime around February or March 2018. When the disillusionment fully set in, I stopped the testosterone treatment and began the process of getting my life back on track. It has not been easy, and the whole experience seriously derailed my life in ways I could never have foreseen when I was that fifteen-year-old kid playing with pronouns on Tumblr.”

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By Any Other Name
 

Yupo

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
From @Esprit 's post:
"kids are not able to make these life altering decisions at certain ages in fact in case you didn't know guys, there's a huge movement of detransitioning kids right now kids who were transitioning in their early teens and who are now in their mid 20s and they're realizing they've made a huge mistake."

Exactly! This is why, in the past, I fought to keep military recruiters out of schools; they were pitching to children as young as 12. What the data shows is that enlistment drops exponentially after the age of 20 or 21, because until that age, children cannot think far enough into the future to consider what might be the consequences of their choices.

This entire 'movement' towards influencing our children has been contrived and long planned. I've stated before that I believe it fits in, ultimately, with depopulation of the planet, from the apex of control.

Has anyone ever considered the very sudden appearance of transgendered persons in government (and it is at all levels, down to towns) and schools? Has anyone ever wondered at the gross over representation of the population, not only in these institutions, but in the media and entertainment industries too?

Except when I look at Michelle Obama, the PM OF New Zealand, and Lady Gaga, I see that they didn't have their genitalia chopped off and reformed into the opposite. I don't know about current surgical expertise, but what I read, in the past, concerning what was constructed was a poor excuse for a penis or a vagina and intercourse was painful, if not impossible. These were from testimonies of trans who deeply regretted their decisions, once they matured.

I won't go into much on why this is an abomonation when presented to young children. But I will ask the question, why is it so all important for teachers/adults to have discussions with the very young? (toddlers to pre-teens) What is the incessant need of individuals to discuss their orientations to children? What is their need to make appearences so freakishly different? Yeah, I dressed outlandishly as a teen....but then I grew up, on time, not pushing any agenda, well into my adulthood, thru my appearance. And I have no need for ppl to except me as I am. I grew up with a well developed sense of self.

Below is a very long and very good explaintion from a young woman, a 'detransitioner,' who takes much time to explain how she was led into making decisions that harmed her and took away from any real issues that needed healed, what information was withheld, and more.

SNIP:
“My name is Helena, and as of this writing I’m a 23-year-old woman who, as a teenager, believed I was transgender. In the years since detransitioning (stopping testosterone treatment and no longer seeing myself as transgender), I’ve become interested in exploring why, in the last decade, nearly every English-speaking country has seen a meteoric rise in adolescents believing they are transgender and pursuing cosmetic medical and surgical interventions. Here, I’d like to go over how and why I came to see myself as transgender, the process of transitioning, and the events leading up to and following my detransition.

The short version of my detransition story for those who want the bare details is that when I was fifteen, I was introduced to gender ideology on Tumblr and began to call myself nonbinary. Over the next few years, I would continue to go deeper and deeper down the trans identity rabbit hole, and by the time I was eighteen, I saw myself as a “trans man”, otherwise known as “FtM”. Shortly after my eighteenth birthday, I made an appointment at a Planned Parenthood to begin a testosterone regimen. At my first appointment, I was prescribed testosterone, and I would remain on this regimen for a year and a half. It had an extremely negative effect on my mental health, and I finally admitted what a disaster it had been when I was 19, sometime around February or March 2018. When the disillusionment fully set in, I stopped the testosterone treatment and began the process of getting my life back on track. It has not been easy, and the whole experience seriously derailed my life in ways I could never have foreseen when I was that fifteen-year-old kid playing with pronouns on Tumblr.”


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By Any Other Name
That was a long read, but worth it. Easy to see why the suicide rate is so high in this population.
 

Zzartemis

Dagobah Resident
That was a long read, but worth it. Easy to see why the suicide rate is so high in this population.
"The groomers are killing children. They are fostering a massive identity crisis in an entire generation of kids. In a decade or two there will be a wave of suicides unlike anything humanity has ever seen as these kids come of age and begin to understand what's been done to them."
---MattWalshShow

'We Aren't Grooming Children,' They Cry As They Groom ChildrenThe Matt Walsh Show

    • News Commentary
Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the Left insists that teachers absolutely aren’t sexually indoctrinating elementary schoolers. Yet there is video footage of teachers doing precisely that. Also, Pete Buttigieg says that children will die if he and his fellow groomers are not allowed to say whatever they want to our kids. The truth is that gender ideology, as professed by Buttigieg and others, is what will kill kids. Also, Donald Trump endorses pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-trans Dr. Oz. And a jury refuses to convict three men entrapped by the FBI in a plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan. Plus, Sam Elliott issues the inevitable groveling apology for committing the sin of not liking a gay cowboy movie. In our Daily Cancellation, some libertarians on YouTube tried to debunk me. We’ll see how they did.
LISTEN:
 

Puma

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
This man knows what a woman is ¡¡¡ if you think a woman is cromosome X and no penis (or tallywacker) you are wrong... being a woman is a "system of opression" .And he talks about biological essentialism

I didn't know this concept...so according to Oxford reference:

The belief that ‘human nature’, an individual's personality, or some specific quality (such as intelligence, creativity, homosexuality, masculinity, femininity, or a male propensity to aggression) is an innate and natural ‘essence’ (rather than a product of circumstances, upbringing, and culture). The concept is typically invoked where there is a focus on difference, as where females are seen as essentially different from males: see gender essentialism. The term has often been used pejoratively by constructionists; it is also often used synonymously with biological determinism

 

BlueKiwi

Jedi Master
This situation of the court being able to override my instincts as a parent make my blood boil. If my daughter or son came to me telling me they wanted to change to the opposite sex I would sit them down for as long as it takes - maybe years - and ask them about how they arrived at that decision. And I could probably guess beforehand it was by influenced by some group on the internet, or peers at school.

When people make drastic life-altering, rash decisions about their bodies, then spend the rest of their lives depressed and regretting it, it makes me hope they only have to learn that lesson once in their sequence of physical incarnations.

And speaking of incarnations, is it not our choice to choose a male or female body when we are contemplating our next physical life from 5D ? I would think that the choice of gender would play a significant role in the life we planned, and therefore lessons we wanted to learn.

Changing your gender would have a massive and detrimental effect on your 5D life plan.

Maybe that is why people end up depressed and regretting it. Maybe at a subconscious level they realise they have severely impacted their plan they had for this life, and now diluted or even eliminated the lessons they wanted to learn. What a waste.

I think Ra alluded to this as well when asked about this and I recall (badly) that there are instances when a soul has decided it has incarnated too many times as one gender and is now too polarised as male or female, so chooses to incarnate as the opposite sex to hopefully shift it's female/male energy towards a more neutral gender.

Maybe this is why people want to change their gender ? The soul gender polarisation is too far one way, and they just can't handle the body of the sex they are not used to ?

In any case, I believe you should accept that which the universe gives you - your mind, body and anything else and use that tool to the best of your ability to learn.
 
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BHelmet

The Living Force
This topic certainly demonstrates the idea that the power to alter reality lies In the belief center of the mind. How many trans people are able to override their own suppressed feelings and observations with the set of beliefs they MUST embrace in order to stay with the plan and validate their choices and actions lest they implode into a deep depression resulting from having been duped into intentionally thwarting their own biology?
 

zak

The Living Force
"The Plenary approves the Bill for the real and effective equality of trans people and for the guarantee of the rights of LGTBI people."

The "trans law" in the Catholic Spain
The Plenary of the Spanish Congress of Deputies approved on Thursday 22 December the draft law for the real and effective equality of trans people and for the guarantee of LGTBI rights, which has now been sent to the Senate for final approval.

What is the "LGTBI trans law"?

As its full name says, this law seeks real and effective equality for trans people, as well as guaranteeing rights for the LGTBI+ community.

FELGTIB+ mentions that Spain has fallen down in terms of diversity in recent years. As an example, it mentions that currently, for a change of gender identity registration, requirements such as "hormone treatment for two years, diagnosis of gender dysphoria and medical reports" are necessary.

The law aims to change this situation through one of its most important (and most controversial points, as reported by the local media El País), known as gender self-determination.

The most important points of the law

In addition to gender self-determination, there are other important points in the trans law, which were exposed by the General Directorate of Sexual Diversity and LGTBI Rights (which depends on the Ministry of Equality) and by Rodríguez Pam.

Gender self-determination

If the law is passed, this point means that reports or evidence will no longer be required for a person to make an official change to their gender identity. According to the General Directorate of Sexual Diversity and Rights, this will be done "through a system of double appearance, without medical or judicial guardianship".

If the person is 16 years old, says Rodríguez Pam, they will be able to appear and make the change by themselves, without anyone else involved; if they are between 14 and 16, they will have to be assisted by their guardians; and if they are between 12 and 14, it can be done through voluntary jurisdiction.

Likewise, the Directorate points out that this point guarantees the rights of foreigners to change documents issued in Spain if they are unable to do so in their own country.

Depathologisation of trans people

With this point, it would be legally guaranteed that a trans person would never again be considered sick in Spain.

Moreover, it is related to the previous point, as a medical diagnosis would never again be required for an official change of gender identity.

Right to filiation of children of female partners

With the approved law, "female couples are put on an equal footing with heterosexual couples in terms of the right to filiation of their offspring," says the Directorate.

In other words, lesbian or bisexual women will no longer have to marry to have children with their partner. "Our right to form a family is recognised just like that of heterosexual couples," explains Rodriguez Pam.

Ban on conversion therapies

Conversion therapies (i.e. fake processes that seek to change a person's sexual orientation) would be completely eradicated, regardless of the consent of the persons concerned.

Such therapies "will be considered a very serious offence in the new law, as will be denying a LGTBI couple access to housing or disseminating discriminatory materials against LGTBI people in educational centres", mentions Rodríguez Pam.

Rights of intersex people

With the approved law, genital modification surgeries on intersex people would be prohibited until the age of 12. They could be carried out earlier, but only if they are completely necessary (for example, for health reasons).

LGTBI strategy and trans strategy


The Directorate mentions that this point seeks to establish "two four-year strategies for the promotion, development and coordination of LGTBI policies".

This will be done in coordination with the autonomous communities of Spain. The strategies aim to address the multiple discriminations against the diversity community.

Education in diversity and social and labour insertion of transgender people

If the bill is approved, the law will guarantee that at the various educational levels there will be content on sex-affective diversity and family diversity. This will not only be for students, but will also be included in the syllabus for teachers.


It seeks to promote measures for the inclusion of transgender people in the labour market, as well as to promote anti-discrimination measures in the negotiation of collective bargaining agreements.

"Positive action measures are included that favour the inclusion of trans people in the labour market, and trans children will have the right to have their gender respected at school," adds Rodríguez Pam.

Comprehensive health care for trans people


Health services will have a new dimension of inclusion and respect for diversity in order to offer fully comprehensive and quality care.

"Health care for trans people will be carried out in accordance with the principles of non-pathologisation, autonomy, co-decision and informed consent, non-discrimination, comprehensive care, quality, specialisation, proximity and non-segregation," explains the directorate.

How much are the fines for breaking the law?


The original draft had no changes in terms of fines for infringements of the law.

Infringements are divided into minor, serious and very serious: the first could carry a fine of 200 to 2,000 euros; the second, fines of 2,001 to 10,000 euros; and the third, fines of 10,001 to 150,000 euros.
DeepL.
¿Qué es la "ley trans" en España y cuáles son sus puntos más importantes?
 

Tauriel

Jedi Council Member
At the hospital we have a special ward for Borderline personality disorder. Until about 5 years ago there were only a few people per year who were confused about their gender. Now there's a massive influx of patients who claim that they want a transition.
So the propaganda works for those facing problems while growing up.
But also adults with psychiatric disorders are easily affected by the agenda. Last time there was a patient announced as a female who transitioned from being a male.
When he arrived (I just must say 'he') he was wearing a huge flowered night gown, a full beard, long painted finger nails and his chest hair was showing out of the night gown. I was listening to the psychotic ideas he had and when he said that I was to call him 'Steffi' I just had to leave the room telling him that I'm not calling patients 'God' or 'Satan' just because they believe they are and the same goes for him.
The compromise was that we agreed for me to call him by his last name without Mr. or Mrs.
Maybe I will face consequences when I refuse to play their game but I just cannot do it.
 

forest_light

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member

Sweden cuts ties with leading trans health group over guidelines for child sex changes


"Swedish health authorities have officially broken ranks with the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) with the announcement that gender clinics will no longer be attempting to perform experimental sex changes on under-18s but will instead offer “psychological support to help youth live with the healthy body they were born with.”

According to an article published in the Swedish medical journal Läkartidningen, new guidelines will be published before the end of the year advising against puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and surgery for under 18s. This is in direct contrast with the WPATH Standards of Care 8 (SOC8) released earlier this year which advises affirmation and medical intervention as the first line of treatment for gender-confused minors."

“As a whole, the new guidelines will be more reasonable than the previous ones and advocate a great deal of caution with irreversible interventions in healthy bodies, as we know that some will regret it,” writes pediatrician Mats Reimer. He explained that puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones will only be available to youth in the strictest of clinical trial settings from now on, given the “extremely weak” evidence for their use.

Reimer said that the previous Swedish guidelines were based upon the WPATH Standards of Care 7 (SOC7) but when the internationally respected professional association released its SOC8, debate broke out amongst Swedish doctors over the removal of all lower age limits and the inclusion of eunuch” as an innate gender identity even children can possess. Reimer, as well as many other experts, believes this is a sign that WPATH is not a scientific organization but instead an activist group.

"Had this been published anywhere other than in a supposedly scientific article, it would have been thought that it was satire," said Reimer. "The fact that the National Board of Health and Welfare's updated guidelines should no longer be based on such an obviously activist organization as WPATH is of course welcome."

"In Swedish healthcare, child psychiatry will continue to be responsible for treating those under the age of 18 who experience gender incongruence and suffer from it. The care will now primarily consist of psychological support to help the youth live with the healthy body they are born with," Reimer concluded.

Sweden is not the only country changing course on the treatment approach for children who are experiencing gender-related distress. Finland became the first nation to abandon the affirmative model of care in 2020 when an independent review of its pediatric gender service found the evidence for affirmation and puberty blockers to be of extremely poor quality.

England followed suit earlier this year, also after an independent review of its youth gender service. The controversial Tavistock clinic will be closed next year, and regional centers set up that are better equipped to deal with the complex mental health needs of this vulnerable cohort of young people.

France and New Zealand have taken similar approaches, and several Republican states in the U.S. have passed, or proposed, legislation aimed at bringing an end to what one pediatric neurosurgeon recently called “an extraordinary medical atrocity.”

Meanwhile, WPATH and the gender-affirming model of care continue to enjoy the support of President Biden, Assistant Secretary of Health Rachel Levine, and all Democrat states.

There has yet to be an official statement from WPATH regarding Sweden rejecting its guidelines, but last month WPATH released a statement condemning the changes proposed by England’s National Health Service (NHS). Responding to the proposed change that the primary intervention for children and young people would be psychological support, WPATH called it “alarming,” and “outdated gatekeeping.”


(If you are wondering who WPATH are, you can see their website here.
They have organisations covering Asia/Europe/US)
 

Maya

Jedi Master
My doughter told me she knows al least 4 kids in her highschool, some of them are her friends,
who are 'not sure who/ what they are'?! They dress funny, boys do make up etc.
It is freaking disaster. And they are all very happy that society is 'cool about it' . :ohboy:
 

Natus Videre

Jedi Council Member
I learned recently that two of my former high school classmates transitioned out of the blue. At the time, they did not show any visible sign of an imminent gender shift. One of them (the guy) had a gigantic ego and was quite aggressive at times—you would think he would be the last guy on earth to transition!
 

MatiaS

Jedi
My heart really goes out to these people. Can't imagine their plight.


The clip at the end is with a certain Jessica Pocock, CEO of Inside Out Youth Services, and I mean ugh.. Just look at the way she smiles when she dismisses the whole topic out of hand. Disgusting.

Here's an article related to that senate hearing.

An LGBTQI advocate claimed that “detransitioning” was “not a real thing” during a hearing on anti-LGBT violence at the US Congress, Wednesday.

Texas Representative Michael Cloud, a Republican, asked if LGBTQI advocate Jessie Pocock could speak on the “phenomenon” of people who identified as transgender but came to regret it and detransition in the years following.


CEO and executive director of Inside Out Youth Services, Jessie Pocock, responded to a question, explaining that someone’s gender identity was a “really personal experience” while maintaining that they had worked in this area for a “long time” and knew “a lot of trans folks, close friends, and family members.”


Pocock went on to say, “I’ve never heard of a case of anyone de-transitioning so I honestly don’t think it’s a real thing.”

A witness in the House hearing on "anti-LGBT violence" is asked about de-transitioners:
"I've never heard of a case of anyone de-transitioning so I honestly don't think it's a real thing." pic.twitter.com/G2ujamy9AF
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) December 14, 2022


At Wednesday’s House Oversight Committee hearing, Pocock declared that she supported children undergoing hormonal treatments and surgeries to change their sex even if their parents did not agree.

“In our community, the age of consent to mental health therapy is 12 years old,” Pocock said.

Pocock’s statement at the anti-LGBT violence hearing comes after the mass shooting at a Colorado gay nightclub last month which sparked outcry over the onslaught of violence against queer people and pushed for lawmakers to pass laws banning some semiautomatic weapons.

Inside Out Youth Services describe themselves as being “dedicated to providing quality programs and services to LGBTQIA2+ youth in Colorado Springs and the surrounding counties.”

Their range of services includes support groups, mentoring opportunities, educational workshops, and social activities, “designed to meet the unique needs of LGBTQIA2+ youth and young adults at all stages of their journey.”

Inside Out Organisation Dedicated to Protecting Queer Children

During the hearing, Pocock said that her organisation seeks to ensure that transgender children feel ‘safe and protected’.

Pocock condemned the attacks that queer people are victim to, stating “we [Inside Out Youth Services] are constantly filing reports of abuse and neglect.”

Cloud claimed that schools and churches were under legal obligations to report cases of abuse, asking Pocock if she believed parents had a right to be “informed of what’s going on.”

“Do they have a right to know what’s going on in their kids’ lives?” Cloud asked.


Pocock responded that she believed those who were in positions to protect and support young queer individuals were “trusted with the things they [children] are dealing with.”


“In terms of parents’ rights to know at schools, I mean here in Colorado, parents don’t have a right. If a young person is questioning their gender or their sexuality there are laws in place that say they have the right to process that with the help of their trusted counsellor and so forth,” Pocock added.

18-year-old former transgender child Chloe Cole tweeted “’Detransitioners are pretty used to being told they don’t exist. I don’t mind coming to DC to clear up any confusion, lol”, following the exchange.

Cole was on hormone blockers at 13 and had a double mastectomy at 15 before deciding to detransition a year later. As reported by the New York Post, Cole asserted a need to increase attention on psychotherapy for children who experience gender dysphoria, “We’re immediately jumping into irreversible medical treatments when we could be focusing on empowering these children to not hate their bodies.”

Enable Young People To Connect With Trusted Adults Who Can Support Them

Pocock spoke about the laws in Colorado that “enable young people to connect with trusted adults who can support them,” asserting that having services like those was vital in preventing the suicide of queer or questioning children.

“And so we serve young people at 13 because we know they come to us,” Pocock said.

A study by the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law reported that LGBT people are now nearly four times more likely than non-LGBT people to be the victims of violent crimes.

Additionally, researchers from the University of Ottawa have reported that Canadian teens who are transgender or nonbinary are at a higher risk of both suicidal thoughts and attempts compared to cisgender, heterosexual teens.
 

MatiaS

Jedi
I'd like to add another quick comment, as it pertains to the topic at hand.

It's about the YouTube algorithms, and how they seem to herd everyone into one of two corners of any debate. For people who're watching videos of "transitioning success stories" certainly only get fed more of the same. This is of course true for almost every imaginable subject one would watch YouTube videos of. (And this line of thought of course applies to a host of other platforms as well.)

My point is; that as this video pops up on my screen, it's as if this emotional trigger gets pulled in me and I'm clicking before I know it. As the video was loading I was thinking about how I just got played, and how pervasive and insidious this technology has become.

As everyone just scrolls and swipes and clicks away their precious hours, the growing database of this AI beast-machine is just collecting more and more data, becoming more and more efficient in vectoring people hither and tither, creating increasing amounts of division, all the while peoples' minds get more and more convinced of their polarized beliefs.

Certainly we should be grateful for the internet and other technologies, as they give us amazing resources such as this forum (which the likes of I don't know if we've ever seen in history). But we need to remember that our attention is also constantly - at least attempted to - being vectored in specific directions.
 
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