Trump era: Fascist dawn, or road to liberation?

[NormaRegula]

Re: Re: Donald Trump wins 2016 US presidential election

In regards to personal attacks from the left, this story appalled me yesterday. Katie Rich, a writer for SNL - a long-running NBC comedy sketch show - posted a mean, nasty tweet targeting President Trump's 10-year-old son: "Barron will be this country's first homeschool shooter." on Friday.

The disgusting Tweet was left up for about 3 hours, then deleted after Rich took some heat from the Twitterverse. She then placed her Twitter account under protected. Guess she needed a safe space from the criticism she rightfully received even though she did get quite a few likes during the 3 hours the tweet was public. Other celebrities joined in to mock the ten-year-old Berron Trump on Instagram - a young man who is seen here in a video playing peek-a-boo with his baby nephew at the Whitehouse.

Sure, the right mocks adults like former President Obama, Hillary and her serial-sexual-predator hubby. I seem to recall that young Chelsea Clinton and the Obama's daughters were deemed by the MSM and others to be off-limits to criticism and mockery while they were children. The hypocrisy and nastiness of the left knows no limits. Makes me sick and shocked that they do not get that they are acting insanely and bullying a child.

Katie Rich should be fired for her tweet. But she won't as she's part of a protected class of classless leftists.

 

[Glenn]

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It amazes me how all the people here are so interested in the charade that is politics. Bet a lot of you voted too. God only knows why. These people are the puppets of the masters no matter who gets in. Until this system is broke and replaced there literally is no hope for no-one. The system is designed for the exploitation of the people. Our lives are manipulated from birth to further the control of governments. Nobody gets away. Its a sad fact. Its a total illusion. Nothing THEY do will change YOUR life. So bin it all. Concentrate on your loved ones and your own lives. Do the 'WORK' on yourselves and then, and only then can things begin to TRULY change. Don't be TRUMPED by the TRUMP. Ignore it all because it ain't going away anytime soon. I hate politics and all who associate with it, for they are all part of the problem. A solution lies within. Grab it, nurture it and become a part of the real revolution. Become a superman/woman. Peace out!

I think it is more a case of staying aware, vigilant. The C's have gone into length of what our reality is really like, like us being food for them. I think the chill out, peace out thinking can be a dangerous form of thinking right now.

 

[bjorb]

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It amazes me how all the people here are so interested in the charade that is politics. Bet a lot of you voted too. God only knows why. These people are the puppets of the masters no matter who gets in. Until this system is broke and replaced there literally is no hope for no-one. The system is designed for the exploitation of the people. Our lives are manipulated from birth to further the control of governments. Nobody gets away. Its a sad fact. Its a total illusion. Nothing THEY do will change YOUR life. So bin it all. Concentrate on your loved ones and your own lives. Do the 'WORK' on yourselves and then, and only then can things begin to TRULY change. Don't be TRUMPED by the TRUMP. Ignore it all because it ain't going away anytime soon. I hate politics and all who associate with it, for they are all part of the problem. A solution lies within. Grab it, nurture it and become a part of the real revolution. Become a superman/woman. Peace out!

Yeah yeah, same could have been said about Russia before Putin. And look what happened. Apparently you can tear down the system from within. Big surprise aint it, it surely was for me !! ''Whoever wins, everybody loses'' isn't always the rule. Trump is interesting for various of reasons. If you missed that, you didn't pay attention.

 

[Scottie]

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Well, those liberals seem to have a very liberal attitude to the definition of 'appropriate behaviour' and 'mental issues' because this guy is acting like he should be kept in a room with duvets on the walls and no door knobs. Seriously, it's quite bad to see a 5 year old pull a tantrum in a public place when they want ice cream. But seeing a grown up person do this is a pretty advanced level of loco.

I'm gonna borrow your comments for FB...

 

[Cosmos]

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What I find interesting is that the hate against islam and in general devaluing all islamic people as sub humans, seems to present across the spectrum on both sides, be it liberal or conservative, and also widely held in the Trump camp.

If one think worked incredibly good, then it is exactly this dehumanization of a whole population on earth (that is 1.7 billion people). It's incredible, and one can not help to think that there might be a successful zionist agenda behind it and also remember what the C's said about the end goal being to annihilate that part of humanity.

Here a little example on the views on islam and islamic people from one Trump supporter out of India:

_https://youtu.be/xn0vRKJOz8E?t=22m23s

 

[RedFox]

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A few things from twitter.

Trump supporter puts out fire, calls for peace.

Is swiftly punched in the face by anti-Trump "protesters".

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This image made me stop in my tracks (from the women's March today)

Life is religion. Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God. Those who are asleep are those of little faith in terms of their interaction with the creation. Some people think that the world exists for them to overcome or ignore or shut out. For those individuals, the world will cease. They will become exactly what they give to life. They will become merely a dream in the "past." People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the "Future."

 

[mkrnhr]

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Well, those liberals seem to have a very liberal attitude to the definition of 'appropriate behaviour' and 'mental issues' because this guy is acting like he should be kept in a room with duvets on the walls and no door knobs. Seriously, it's quite bad to see a 5 year old pull a tantrum in a public place when they want ice cream. But seeing a grown up person do this is a pretty advanced level of loco.

I'm gonna borrow your comments for FB...

Sorry to ask but are we sure it's a "guy"? I can't figure out with all the clothing... If it's the case, the good news would be that even the most liberal woman in the world wouldn't pass his genes to the next generations.

 

[PhoenixToEmber]

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It amazes me how all the people here are so interested in the charade that is politics. Bet a lot of you voted too. God only knows why. These people are the puppets of the masters no matter who gets in. Until this system is broke and replaced there literally is no hope for no-one. The system is designed for the exploitation of the people. Our lives are manipulated from birth to further the control of governments. Nobody gets away. Its a sad fact. Its a total illusion. Nothing THEY do will change YOUR life. So bin it all. Concentrate on your loved ones and your own lives. Do the 'WORK' on yourselves and then, and only then can things begin to TRULY change. Don't be TRUMPED by the TRUMP. Ignore it all because it ain't going away anytime soon. I hate politics and all who associate with it, for they are all part of the problem. A solution lies within. Grab it, nurture it and become a part of the real revolution. Become a superman/woman. Peace out!

Observing the political sphere is very much part of the Work. It's part of the world and must be studied alongside the study of ourselves, for the same processes are reflected in us and the whole ('as above, so below'). And what people in power do can and will indeed change your life, so the least we can do is pay attention to what's happening and analyze it as objectively as possible.

As Gurdjieff said:

In right knowledge the study of man must proceed on parallel lines with the study of the world, and the study of the world must run parallel with the study of man. Laws are everywhere the same, in the world as well as in man. Having mastered the principles of any one law we must look for its manifestation in the world and in man simultaneously.… This parallel study of the world and of man shows the student the fundamental unity of everything and helps him to find analogies in phenomena of different orders.

-In Search of the Miraculous

 

[Ant22]

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It amazes me how all the people here are so interested in the charade that is politics. Bet a lot of you voted too. God only knows why. These people are the puppets of the masters no matter who gets in. Until this system is broke and replaced there literally is no hope for no-one. The system is designed for the exploitation of the people. Our lives are manipulated from birth to further the control of governments. Nobody gets away. Its a sad fact. Its a total illusion. Nothing THEY do will change YOUR life. So bin it all. Concentrate on your loved ones and your own lives. Do the 'WORK' on yourselves and then, and only then can things begin to TRULY change. Don't be TRUMPED by the TRUMP. Ignore it all because it ain't going away anytime soon. I hate politics and all who associate with it, for they are all part of the problem. A solution lies within. Grab it, nurture it and become a part of the real revolution. Become a superman/woman. Peace out!

And what if Laura thought the same 20+ years ago? What if she chose to "concentrate on herself and her loved ones" when the journey got rough? Because to the best of my knowledge it was not an easy adventure.

I can only speak for myself but if she had chosen the easy path you are advocating I'm quite convinced that my life would be entirely different. And remembering where I was before I came across Laura's work I think I can pretty confidently conclude it wouldn't be a positive difference.

Not only "all the people here" but also a large part of SOTT is dedicated to exposing the truth behind politics so I will risk a conclusion that it is actually considered a worthy interest to pursue on this forum. Otherwise Laura and her crew wouldn't have done this for so - long despite the high price there was to pay for the pursuit.

 

[Ant22]

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Well, those liberals seem to have a very liberal attitude to the definition of 'appropriate behaviour' and 'mental issues' because this guy is acting like he should be kept in a room with duvets on the walls and no door knobs. Seriously, it's quite bad to see a 5 year old pull a tantrum in a public place when they want ice cream. But seeing a grown up person do this is a pretty advanced level of loco.

I'm gonna borrow your comments for FB...

Haha! I'm really glad the comments entertained you Scottie :D

 

[Seamus]

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Paul Joseph Watson video featuring the person screaming like a maniac at the Trump election and a broad sampling of hypocritical tweets calling for assassination and violent protesters destroying property and punching people.

Frightening and entertaining!

 

[Gawan]

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A few things from twitter.

Trump supporter puts out fire, calls for peace.

Is swiftly punched in the face by anti-Trump "protesters".

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It's truly unbelievable how some people behave. It reminded me a bit of Maidan where also many masked men caused terror.

 

[Laura]

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It's truly unbelievable how some people behave. It reminded me a bit of Maidan where also many masked men caused terror.

I guess the next thing we'll see is somebody will bring out some guns and start shooting and that will be all she wrote!

 

[SummerLite]

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I thought it was good at least, that protesters around the guy who was punched out, called for peaceful protests while others rescued him.

mkrnhr:

Sorry to ask but are we sure it's a "guy"? I can't figure out with all the clothing... If it's the case, the good news would be that even the most liberal woman in the world wouldn't pass his genes to the next generations.

I suppose if someone is to post this clip on FB or wherever, and they want to use a gender pronoun, the right one should be used otherwise it could be offensive. FWIW, I thought this person screaming was a woman, quite clearly. So perhaps, best to go with something neutral as not to offend. How fitting this remark is for our times!

Pashalis:

What I find interesting is that the hate against islam and in general devaluing all islamic people as sub humans, seems to present across the spectrum on both sides, be it liberal or conservative, and also widely held in the Trump camp.

If one think worked incredibly good, then it is exactly this dehumanization of a whole population on earth (that is 1.7 billion people). It's incredible, and one can not help to think that there might be a successful zionist agenda behind it and also remember what the C's said about the end goal being to annihilate that part of humanity.

Very sobering thoughts. Good to see how Trump will handle this, should be telling. Its interesting to watch and be aware, of the mind control thats happening right now and it's becoming more obvious. Maybe some people are being triggered all at once right now as has been mentioned. I've never experienced anything like this before, its a real eye opener. Where I am is uneventful, thankfully.

 

[happyliza]

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Phoenixtoember:

Observing the political sphere is very much part of the Work. It's part of the world and must be studied alongside the study of ourselves, for the same processes are reflected in us and the whole ('as above, so below'). And what people in power do can and will indeed change your life, so the least we can do is pay attention to what's happening and analyze it as objectively as possible.

As Gurdjieff said:
Quote

In right knowledge the study of man must proceed on parallel lines with the study of the world, and the study of the world must run parallel with the study of man. Laws are everywhere the same, in the world as well as in man. Having mastered the principles of any one law we must look for its manifestation in the world and in man simultaneously.… This parallel study of the world and of man shows the student the fundamental unity of everything and helps him to find analogies in phenomena of different orders.

-In Search of the Miraculous

What I find soooo heartening in all this 'politics' and this particular inauguration ( including agreeing totally with the above quotes), is that ALL the observations from peeps here (of which mirrored my own) SHOWS that our 'training' that Laura and the C's and everyone else here is WORKING!! Because we are all singing off the same hymn sheet and we all observe the SAME discrepancies as well as the possible positives and negatives!

For example who can quote 'God' is with America when all that country has recently done - and the C's have verified? Who can talk about Zion, Jerusalem (yes I think it was 3rd in line, but due to the 'equality' all were allowed to 'pray/quote') - pursuing the zionist agenda as usual yada yada

ALL the comments about the inauguration were very very pertinent - proving we are becoming very observant and are 'learning' our 'lessons' about being vigilant, objective and hype critical evaluations.

The comments here were so important for the world to see that I have shared most of them 'confidentially' and hopefully they will be rightfully shared - to help propagate 'right thinking' - who knows. But thank you everyone - because without all your comments we can doubt our teaching and 'new' intuitions' as well as fall into subjectivity again. Luckily that did not happen for me, but I would not have known this, without having the incredible benchmark here, to fall back on, and allow me to objectively 'gauge' my thoughts, feelings and ideas BEFORE I was prepared to share them on social media.

It is also the first inauguration I ever bothered to watch and learn about proceedings in USA and I am glad I did - though ended up being a very late night due to other commitments. But well worth it!

Truly we don't know what will really transpire, but as a few people have already commented, 'so far so good' - we can only 'activate' to do our best to 'change' the status quo and support the benevolent policies or otherwise.

'Chills down our spine' - well these past few weeks have certainly given me many! Though I tend to go with the climatic version now apart from the kindergarten antics for all to witness - thankfully.

I would like to know why he kept congratulating those in the opposite rows to him that had opposed him the whole time!! Many reasons - hold no grudges, you never stopped me whatever your polys, or thank you for allowing me to be yet another stooge in your white house - or whatever. Hopefully just 'diplomacy'. Surprised to see Killary there to be quite honest but pathos know no bounds and to 'not' be there would be against their 'elite' egos! OSIT. Though 'tradition' may prevail?

Great encouragement to see that Soros with his billions to cause disruption in 'not our president' fail dismally. Or even if there was serious disruption, that it was not reported in the 'press'.

So - on the whole a good start and cautiously very encouraging. I did think that Trump's poor son was having a hard time of it - he looked, and felt, so out of place that I really felt sorry for him, then you get the awful comments/swipes from paths again! I am sure the poor boy knows he will see even less of his 'dad' now too. BUT I truly HOPE that Trump's statement of him being 100% for USA/the people is genuine. WE all know that 'politicians' lie on their manifestos and whatever, whether he is an astute business man or not!

Also, I was alerted to note, appertaining to my question over one month ago, that by his deals you will know him, that he failed to pay people and reneged on his 'deals' in the past. That is a major telling sign to me. One is either ethical or one is not! (though law of 3 may prevail here - again - who knows?).