Trump era: Fascist dawn, or road to liberation?

[Neil]

I thought for awhile that Trump might be purposely spreading the military thin in order to make it easier to purge the deep state spooks from the military industrial complex; that he might be planning some sort of coup prevention operation and he was keeping all of the top brass/CIA occupied with North Korea, Afghanistan, and Syria so he could pull the rug out from underneath them while they're busy focusing on foreign issues. Then his loyalists could storm the Pentagon and he would have control of the military. But 4k is a fairly insignificant number, it wouldn't seem to really be consistent with this scenario. I don't think he's clever enough nor has enough friends to pull it off.

Instead, all the signs seem to be indicating to me that Trump is done. His speeches and populist appeals are meaningless since he has painted himself into a corner and is close to becoming completely irrelevant. All he is doing is maintaining an illusory cult of personality to keep his base energized; he literally can't get anything done that really matters. I hope he will launch whatever his "last hurrah" is and go down in a big blaze of glory while he can still do some damage, because watching him gradually sell his soul to the deep state with each "compromise" just so he can live to fight another day is depressing and agitating.

 

[angelburst29]

Is this the 3-4 thousand troops that Mattis was calling for?

Several thousand paratroopers from the 82nd Airborne Division are expected to arrive in Afghanistan in the coming weeks, a U.S. defense official told Fox News Tuesday.

Thousands of US paratroopers expected to arrive in Afghanistan soon
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/22/thousands-us-paratroopers-expected-to-arrive-in-afghanistan-soon.html

The official refused to be more specific about the timetable because the orders had not yet been signed. Gen. Joseph Votel, the top U.S commander for the Middle East, earlier told reporters in Saudi Arabia that the deployments could take days or a few weeks.

What’s most important for us now is to get some capabilities in to have an impact on the current fighting season,” said Votel, who spent last weekend in Afghanistan.

Votel spoke hours after President Trump outlined his strategy for breaking the stalemate between U.S.-backed government forces and the Taliban. Though Trump did not discuss troop levels in the speech, a senior U.S. official confirmed to Fox News that the president had signed off on sending an additional 4,000 troops to Afghanistan, apparently listening to appeals from his generals.

Most of the new forces will train and advise Afghan forces to improve their combat abilities, or provide security for American adviser teams in the field, Votel said. U.S. counterterror forces will make up a smaller portion, as will other support forces and medical personnel.

About 460 of the total troops will help the U.S. to train more Afghan special commandos in more locations, said U.S. Maj. Gen. James Linder, commander of U.S. and NATO special operations forces in Afghanistan.

Elements of the 1st Brigade Combat Team from the 82nd Airborne Division deployed to Afghanistan over the summer.

Earlier this month, two paratroopers from “1-82” — as the unit is called — were killed in a suicide attack in southern Afghanistan’s Kandahar Province, the spiritual home of the Taliban.

Roughly 8,400 American troops are currently in Afghanistan, down from a peak of approximately 100,000 in 2010 and 2011. President Barack Obama then started bringing them home, drawing criticism for the advance timetables he provided for his planned drawdown and ultimate withdrawal of forces.

Before he was a presidential candidate, Trump ardently argued for a quick withdrawal from Afghanistan and called the war a massive waste of U.S. “blood and treasure.” On Monday, he suggested an open-ended commitment rather than a “time-based” approach.

“Conditions on the ground — not arbitrary timetables — will guide our strategy from now on,” Trump said.

Trump was among those who argued that Obama was aiding the enemy by telegraphing U.S. intentions. On Monday, Trump said he wouldn’t discuss troop numbers, military tactics or timetables. “America’s enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out,” he said.

 

[Divide by Zero]

Instead, all the signs seem to be indicating to me that Trump is done. His speeches and populist appeals are meaningless since he has painted himself into a corner and is close to becoming completely irrelevant. All he is doing is maintaining an illusory cult of personality to keep his base energized; he literally can't get anything done that really matters. I hope he will launch whatever his "last hurrah" is and go down in a big blaze of glory while he can still do some damage, because watching him gradually sell his soul to the deep state with each "compromise" just so he can live to fight another day is depressing and agitating.

Neil, as much as I wanted change I felt that he was quite naive and gave up a lot of chances where he could have hit them where it hurts. In fact, it feels like he was quite vocal about nit picky minor issues, yet silent when his outgoing nature could have done real damage.


Maybe he was blackmailed, like I think Reagan was. Reagan was a strong pro union pro working class independent bootstraps kind of guy who flipped into destroying the air traffic controllers union and giving away welfare to corporations and the rich in the form of huge tax breaks, while raising effective taxes on the working class.


I think that maybe he was just allowed to be president in order to do some things for the PTB, whether aware or not of it.
-Give the right/liberty movements some false hope after they were upset about Obama.
Notice the tick-tock cycles? GHWB had the left angry, then Clinton had the right angry, then GWB had the left angry, then Obama had the right angry, and now the left are angry. Meanwhile each and every one of those presidents did very similar things overall- wars, economics, and social policy.


-Make the left look like loonies. Well they did that partially themselves, with the help of fear porn about Trump. Remember the thoughts that he was going to be the next Hitler?


-It also divided the population, much like a wrestling promoter can make the crowd almost fight eachother based on who they are cheering for. Sports does that too, but I choose wrestling because it is scripted in order to get the biggest rise/drop from the audience.


I still have a tiny bit of hope that maybe a mistake reveals the real men behind the curtain, but for now the deep state as the wrestling owner who acts like the bad guy, making people cheer for either of the "abused wrestlers" teams. This was a big drama that happened in wrestling quite a few times to get the audiences to watch the show. They knew wrestling was fake, so the owner decided to make it obvious and spin off this idea that the wrestlers were looking to fight "the man" back.

 

[angelburst29]

Not such a 'dump' any more! New photographs reveal shiny new Oval Office and Roosevelt Room after $3.4m renovations are completed on White House (22 Pics)
http://www.madnesshub.com/2017/08/not-such-dump-any-more-new-photographs.html

Renovated: The White house was looking as shiny and new as it ever did on Tuesday as a two-week renovation on the exterior and interoir of the building wrapped up.

 

[aragorn]

I've been thinking and wondering about why the "deep state" is so vigorously and persistently wanting to remove Trump from office. I mean, Trump is a businessman to the core, and enjoys being successful, so surely there's a good chance that several "good deals" could be made with him. And, as it seems, he has already made several concessions, and given up on some of his principles. So, as I see it, there's clearly a pathological component at work here. It's the same pathological persistency as with the psychopath: when s/he is not getting his/her way, or when s/he's offended or in any way stopped, s/he does not have the capability of compromising or giving up. The psychopath will continue harassing, bullying, sabotaging etc. until s/he wins and the target loses (or dies), even if the psychopath himself is destroyed in the process (which they can't perceive).

One would hope that Trump is familiar with psychopathology, and how there's almost never a chance that they would give up or stop. The only way is to neutralize their influence/power, and that's a very difficult task. He does clearly have some good ideas to get some factions on his side, like law enforcement and military personel (he keeps emphasizing how wonderful they are). I think he knows, that those groups are the most important ones to keep/get on your side, if and when a civil war-type of situation breaks out. However, I have the impression that the persistency by these psychos in power has taken him by surprise, and he is not sure what he should do about them. You need to be a good strategist with a very clever mind like Putin to beat these people.

 

[Laura]

Instead, all the signs seem to be indicating to me that Trump is done. His speeches and populist appeals are meaningless since he has painted himself into a corner and is close to becoming completely irrelevant. All he is doing is maintaining an illusory cult of personality to keep his base energized; he literally can't get anything done that really matters. I hope he will launch whatever his "last hurrah" is and go down in a big blaze of glory while he can still do some damage, because watching him gradually sell his soul to the deep state with each "compromise" just so he can live to fight another day is depressing and agitating.

Pretty much agree. But then, the Cs sorta predicted this when they said he would "try" to do things, but unlikely to succeed. The one thing about it is that the Deep State is exposed for those with eyes to see and who knows what further exposure will transpire? Unfortunately for our nervous systems, there are still a lot of twists and turns that could happen.

 

[Ca.]

The Elite Are Not Finished With Trump Just Yet Paul Craig Roberts
Aug 23, 2017

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[bjorb]

I've started to watch Trump's speech from Phoenix from yesterday, and it's quite extraordinary and remarkable. Not remarkable in the sense of being a "great speech" where a lot of wisdom and knowledge is shared, but in the sense of being a previously completely unseen manner of any US president addressing the nation. We've seen him do this before, of course, but watching this speech from Phoenix, and particularly hearing the way he talks about the fake media, suddenly "hit home" for me; it's completely surreal to see/hear a politician talk in this way, especially in the US.

Have a look:

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Thanks Aragorn, I think it had great moments.

If you remember and love the moment when Trump said after he was elected. ''You are fakenews'' against CNN. Then I think this is worthwell to watch. For those who don't have the time to watch it fully. Start at 30 min and take 10 min to watch it from there. He goes all out against the MSM.


[quote author= Aragorn]I think Trump handles the crowd skillfully, talking "their language". I couldn't imagine Putin talking like this (he would be much more sophisticated), with all the über-patriotism and über-everything, but I think that this über-talk is probably the best way to get your message to the American people. [/quote]

Indeed, Trump knows his crowd very well. And the über-patriotism makes it indeed sometimes a bit tough to watch. Especially for people outside of the US.

But take note that the vassals of the US killed of patriotism for the sake of globalism and the American way. In the Netherlands it's even that bad that there are discussions taking place to replace the Dutch language with the English language in higher education. It wouldn't suprise me if the US behind the scene is pushing for this.

I think there is nothing wrong with nationalism, as long as it stands for a society that encourages to look out and care for each other in this way. Here loving your country equals taking care for each other. Putin's Russia comes pretty close to it.

US patriotism is mainly about being the ''exceptional nation'' in the world. It's something completely different.

 

[angelburst29]

I might be looking at this situation wrong but I think Trump (aware or not) just opened up a Pandora Box?

Trump might not have all the "points" on Afghanistan and why Mattis, McMaster's, McCain, Graham and other's in the Democratic party are celebrating Trump's decision by giving Executive Permission to increase troop numbers in Afghanistan? The U.S. has been in Afghanistan for 16 years with established Military bases and permanent and rotating personnel. Plus, Thump already gave the General's "full rein" to conduct the war's overseas, after he got into Office and appointed McMaster. So, why all the hype in supplying another 3-4 thousand troops and needing Trump's approval?

Maybe .... because the number of troops, which Secretary of Defense James Mattis is still undecided on, are being supplied to NATO and "the Pentagon needs Executive Permission from the President" to deploy them?

The head of the Pentagon, James Mattis attended the Ukrainian Independence Day parade today to honor it's 26th anniversary.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/08/ukrainian-independence-day-parades.html

Mattis also brought a gift.

US approves $175 million arms supply deal to Ukraine
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/08/us-approves-175-million-arms-supply.html

The US is considering supplying lethal arms to Ukraine, US Defense Secretary James Mattis has stated during a visit to Kiev. Washington has also agreed to supply Ukraine with an additional $175 million worth of equipment.

JAMES MATTIS PUSHING FOR MORE WEAPONS FOR THE NAZI UKRAINE REGIME
http://nrt24.ru/en/news/fascist-defense-secretary-james-mattis-us-regime-pushing-more-lethal-weapons-nazi-ukraine-junta

“I would also point out that on defensive lethal weapons – we are actively reviewing it,” Mattis said at a news conference alongside Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on Thursday.

“I will go back now having seen the current situation and be able to inform the secretary of state and the president on the specific terms what I recommend for the direction ahead,” he added.

The Pentagon chief also said that Washington had recently decided to supply Ukraine with more than $175 million worth of equipment.

For example, we have just approved, just very recently, last couple of weeks, another $175 million worth of equipment, including some specialized equipment that can be used to help defend the country, bringing to a total of nearly $750 million in the last several years,” Mattis stated.

Mattis also pledged to support the Ukraine Junta over Crimea, which reunited with Russia after a referendum in 2014. Ukraine, backed by Western governments, rejected the results of the referendum, and sanctions were imposed on Russia when the region seceded from Ukraine.

“The United States stands with Ukraine in all things,” Mattis said over the Crimean issue.

“We do not and we will not accept Russia’s seizure of the Crimea and despite Russia’s denials, we know they are seeking to redraw international borders by force, undermining the sovereign and free nations of Europe,” he told reporters.

Washington has planned to provide the Kiev Regime with $350 million in security assistance in 2017, according to the 2017 National Defense Authorizations Act. It is $50 million more compared to 2016.

The sum is to cover “equipment and technical assistance to the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine for the purpose of developing a comprehensive border surveillance network for Ukraine” as well as “training for staff officers and senior leadership of the military,” the act says.


On the other hand:

Netanyahu Meets Putin, Rants About Iran, Putin Ignores Him
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/08/netanyahu-meets-putin-rants-about-iran.html

 

[Laura]

So, indeed, thanks to the Deep State co-opting Trump, looks like the US is in for REAL totalitarianism by whatever name it is called, and looks like War is on the horizon if Civil War doesn't break out first. What the USA really needs, I guess, is for all its people to unite against the Deep State.

Let's hope for some more big miscalculations and revelations of the "man behind the curtain".

 

[goyacobol]

OK.

We are caught up and intrigued by the strange behavior of Donald Trump which is totally understandable from a 3D perspective but there may be another aspect of this saga that is quite ingmatatic and
requires our consideration?

Considering what Donald Trump is fighting it is no wonder that he is limited and challenged by his opponent/opponents. He does seem to communicate to his base but is extremely boxed in and limited in communicating to this greater audience of US citizens.

We are aware of the influence of MSM but perhaps there is another overlord we cannot easily see behind the curtain?

This greater audience may or may not ever agree/understand what the "Donald" is "try"ing to do.

We are observing and adding our "butterfly" wishes to the Schrödinger's Cat Paradox for a positive outcome but there may be a "deep state"/"secret government" that is going to continue to do what it knows and wants to do.

I don't think this is anything new or that my observations are any great revelation but it just came to me as I do my usual searching/questing for answers.

One "Deep State" candidate may be NROL-39 or USA-247.

I have to give credit to Skyfarmr as he posted on August 19, 2015 for this insight in his astute observation of NASA symbology.

I have to admit that it seems just like an "Octopus" with tentacles reaching globally that we are seeing behind that dark curtain. The dark forces seem to enjoy these fearsome symbols but then why wouldn't they? I think that those of us who aspire to be STO can also appreciate "rise up with wings as eagles".

Q: (L) You once said that the wave was something like "hyperkinetic sensate". And I've often wondered if that means that it's something that massively amplifies whatever is inside an individual? And if that were the case and they were full of a lot of unpleasant, painful, miserable feelings, repressed and suppressed thoughts and so forth, and something that was hyperkinetic sensate amplified all of that, what would it do to that individual? I mean, can you imagine any of us in our worst state of feeling yucky and then having that amplified a bazillion times? If it was bad stuff inside you, you would implode!

A: Soul smashing!

Q: (L) So it is really important for people to go through this process of cleansing to prepare themselves for that?

A: Yes, then they will "rise up with wings as eagles"!

I know this is a bit on the symbolic side but symbols can be useful to inspire cohesiveness among collinear thinkers. We are not just body-centric morons after all. This is an old struggle that we are all trying to win I think. It is a bit off the beaten path to go esoteric when talking about politics but here I go.

 

[goodiepete]

So, indeed, thanks to the Deep State co-opting Trump, looks like the US is in for REAL totalitarianism by whatever name it is called, and looks like War is on the horizon if Civil War doesn't break out first. What the USA really needs, I guess, is for all its people to unite against the Deep State.

Let's hope for some more big miscalculations and revelations of the "man behind the curtain".

Can't but agree. All that's happening with the USA right now can only be explained by Deep State actions. I like to think of it as dark matter, that no one can see but it occupies the absolute majority of space

 

[Hindsight Man]

So, indeed, thanks to the Deep State co-opting Trump, looks like the US is in for REAL totalitarianism by whatever name it is called, and looks like War is on the horizon if Civil War doesn't break out first. What the USA really needs, I guess, is for all its people to unite against the Deep State.

Let's hope for some more big miscalculations and revelations of the "man behind the curtain".

Taking Cassie comments into consideration,I'm not even sure what to think anymore.They said that the odds of a civil war are ''fair but will likely fizzle''.What the hell does that even mean?How can you have something be likely and unlikely at the same time?They also mentioned that Ole Trumpy is under tremendous stress and might have a heart attack.Or he might get impeached.I thought that war was off the table with Hillary not getting elected,but with the recent push into Afghanistan it seems like it's back on the menu.They also mentioned negative energies amassing around out planet and that times ahead will be dark,but not impossible to live through.In another session they mentioned that much of the world will eventually be unrecognizable and that no matter who wins this war,nothing will stop the re-balancing and at the same time they hint at the birth of a better world.There are so many variables that it's mind boggling.

For what it's worth,I think that -regarding technology at least- a small group of dedicated people working without a corporate/government sensor can make more progress in ten years than corrupted Scientism has made in a hundred.So it's not all doom and gloom I guess,though with all the hints of destruction and hellfire on the horizon,I think i'm really gonna miss adequate plumbing.

 

[Ca.]

So, indeed, thanks to the Deep State co-opting Trump, looks like the US is in for REAL totalitarianism by whatever name it is called, and looks like War is on the horizon if Civil War doesn't break out first. What the USA really needs, I guess, is for all its people to unite against the Deep State.

Let's hope for some more big miscalculations and revelations of the "man behind the curtain".

Can't but agree. All that's happening with the USA right now can only be explained by Deep State actions. I like to think of it as dark matter, that no one can see but it occupies the absolute majority of space

Unequivocally and most obviously another major home run for the C's, as history repeats divide and conquer.

Current fanning the flame dialog from Corporate (hyper publications), for "The Freedom Rally" scheduled at Crissy Field (SF, California), on Saturday.

Bay Area political events: SF, Berkeley rallies, counterprotests
http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Bay-Area-political-events-SF-Berkeley-rallies-11956082.php
Chronicle staff report Updated 3:30 pm, Thursday, August 24, 2017

San Francisco dog owners plan to 'leave a gift' for right-wing protesters
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/San-Francisco-dog-owners-plan-to-leave-a-gift-11957906.php
Samantha Schmidt, The Washington Post Published 6:43 am, Friday, August 25, 2017

San Francisco road, parking and business closures during far-right rally Saturday
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/San-Francisco-closures-Saturday-rally-Presidio-11958097.php
By Amy Graff, SFGATE Updated 10:14 am, Friday, August 25, 2017

Man facing charges from pro-Trump rally in Berkeley put in jail
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Trump-booster-arrested-in-Berkeley-says-he-ll-11958240.php
By Jenna Lyons Updated 10:37 am, Friday, August 25, 2017

Berkeley denies permit for anti-Marxism rally
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Berkeley-denies-permit-for-anti-Marxism-rally-11957279.php
By Michael Bodley, San Francisco Chronicle Updated 7:44 am, Friday, August 25, 2017

Officials, residents brace for conflict in Berkeley as Aug. 27 rally approaches
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/08/17/officials-residents-brace-conflict-berkeley-aug-27-rally-approaches/
Snip:

Berkeley’s Civic Center Park has hosted three far-right rallies already this year, so a planned demonstration on Sunday, Aug. 27, feels familiar.
But in the wake of a white nationalist march that turned tragic in Virginia, many residents and officials are on higher alert as the rally approaches. Dozens of residents are calling the city of Berkeley every day, suggesting ways officials can put an end to the event, said Councilwoman Sophie Hahn.

When hate comes to town, Berkeley mobilizes with messages of ‘radical love’
UPDATED: August 25, 2017 at 10:22 am
http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/08/25/when-hate-comes-to-town-berkeley-reluctantly-rolls-out-the-welcome-mat/
Snip:

“We plan to publicly confront and bear witness to this evil by putting our bodies on the line with radical love,” McBride said. “It won’t be said of this generation of black preachers and pastors that we locked ourselves in the house while the Ku Klux Klan came to town.”

‘Based Stickman’ now in custody, ordered to stay away from Civic Center Park
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/08/25/based-stickman-kyle-chapman-now-custody-ordered-stay-away-berkeley-park/
Aug. 25, 2017, 10:11 a.m.

Daly City resident Chapman, a two-time felon, was charged last week with possession of what police called a leaded cane or “billy,” also described in court papers as a “blackjack, sandbag, sandclub, sap, or slungshot.” Police elsewhere said it was a wooden stick or a wooden dowel.

Berkeley grants city manager power to make temporary protest rules
By Natalie Orenstein, Aug. 18, 7:30 p.m.
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/08/18/berkeley-grants-city-manager-power-make-temporary-protest-rules/

Many who duked it out at previous Berkeley rallies, such as this one April 15, did so outside the bounds of the park. Photo: Daniel McPartlan

KPFA (Sound cloud 6:00)
My story on the press conf. by East Bay reps. yesterday ahead of #altright rally planned in #Berkeley this weekend
https://twitter.com/MiraGabi/status/900425395115245568
https://t.co/1UyS49RkWM

CBS SF Bay Area
Prominent SF Attorney Offers Free Services For Counter-Protesters Ahead Of Crissy Field Rally
Published on Aug 23, 2017
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oYi65TsmTY

Prominent defense attorney Tony Serra is offering up his legal services for free to counter-protesters who are arrested at Saturday's conservative, pro-Trump Patriot Prayer rally at Crissy Field. Andria Borba reports. (8/23/17)

Amber Cummings: Transgender patriot in Berkeley
Published on Aug 23, 2017
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5MNO-NwNIU
The force behind the "No to Marxism" rally in Berkeley is Amber Cummings, a self-described transgender patriot.

San Francisco Leaders Boost Security After National Park Service Issues 'Unwelcome' Permit For Crissy Field Rally
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/San-Francisco-Mayor-Reacts-to-National-Park-Services-Decision-to-Issue-Permit-For-Crissy-Field-Rally-441548083.html
A slew of security measures are in place to ensure public safety over the weekend

At a news conference Wednesday, the city's Mayor Ed Lee said, "I remain deeply disappointed and opposed to the issuance of this permit."

Although Crissy Field is federal land and lies outside the city's jurisdiction, Lee said, "We are responsible and feel responsible for everyone's public safety, particularly residents of San Francisco."

Some folks believe that Civil War 2.0 is already happening.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-24/what-americans-think-civil-war-20-would-look

“Democrats are doing wild, suicidal things because they are not just on the defensive, but on the verge of collapse, as the Trump administration breaking down their ‘evil empire’… Their goal is not the destruction of Russia, but the salvation of their own project,” Kosyrev pointed out, referring to the ongoing scandal over alleged “Russian interference” in the US 2016 presidential election.

“Democrats do not have a majority in Congress or their own army, but the war they have been waging is a hybrid one,” the commentator wrote.

“Therefore, in the media zone, they are advancing with a wild, schizophrenic rage. However, they haven’t yet fully monopolized this sphere,” Kosyrev noted, adding that their outrage against the very existence of the Russian English-language TV channel Russia Today is also a “military phenomenon.”

“The essence of what is happening is that the Republicans are now advancing,” he explained, “It simply happens in dozens of small, internal episodes.”

“As one could see, the Democrats have a lot to lose in this war,” the commentator said, adding that the ongoing civil war still has no end in sight. (source)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7MzARnOPCs
Comparing ANTIFA to the Brown Shirts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvDbN6RMYrM
What is Antifa?: Antifa Exposed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td-lor1xQ3I

 

[Divide by Zero]

Taking Cassie comments into consideration,I'm not even sure what to think anymore.They said that the odds of a civil war are ''fair but will likely fizzle''.What the hell does that even mean?How can you have something be likely and unlikely at the same time?They also mentioned that Ole Trumpy is under tremendous stress and might have a heart attack.Or he might get impeached.I thought that war was off the table with Hillary not getting elected,but with the recent push into Afghanistan it seems like it's back on the menu.They also mentioned negative energies amassing around out planet and that times ahead will be dark,but not impossible to live through.In another session they mentioned that much of the world will eventually be unrecognizable and that no matter who wins this war,nothing will stop the re-balancing and at the same time they hint at the birth of a better world.There are so many variables that it's mind boggling.

For what it's worth,I think that -regarding technology at least- a small group of dedicated people working without a corporate/government sensor can make more progress in ten years than corrupted Scientism has made in a hundred.So it's not all doom and gloom I guess,though with all the hints of destruction and hellfire on the horizon,I think i'm really gonna miss adequate plumbing.

When they said chances are fair but will likely fizzle, I think they mean that it is fair chance it will happen but when it does happen it will fizzle out- not have a big impact.


With the destruction on the horizon, I'd be less worried about plumbing and more about radioactivity. When the grid goes down for more than a month or so, the many nuke plants around the world will not have the fuel or energy to be able to cool down and lead to meltdown along with gas buildup which will be released into the atmosphere. That's where I don't understand the prepper mentality, unless somehow some areas have minimal exposure.