UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack (and others)

Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

Ok, looking at the time zone converter map, it's 2am in London and 6pm in Los Angeles. So if time stamps are from place of origin, it might look as though the tweet was posted 4 hours prior to the event. The UK being on the zero meridian.

I'm wondering in practical terms how a university business degree drop out can get hold of bomb making technology and/or equipment or any type or description. Not the sort of thing you pick up at the corner store. And, if he made it himself, that would be like expecting me to ride a Melbourne Cup winner or to hack the Pentagon. It's simply ridiculous and way beyond any skill set I have. Someone like him would need help to organize and source items. He's not acting alone. But, somehow I think its very unlikely that any forensic information will ever be released to the public.
 
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My heart goes out to those victims of the bombing and all the forum members here from the UK. There is not country on earth that isn't under threat now.

One of the best reports I have seen that explains the root/roots of the problem is one by Tucker Carlson on Fox News. Give him just a little more time and I think he'll be up to full speed.

Tucker Carlson Tonight 5/23/17 | Fox News Today May 23, 2017
 
Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

Breitbart
2017 Has Seen a Terror Attack Attempted in Europe Every Nine Days
23 May 2017
_http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/23/2017-seen-terror-attack-attempted-europe-every-nine-days/
Links within for the Chart and Data
_http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/05/DAhBnO0XgAANaAM-640x480.png
Europe, the United Kingdom, and Russia have witnessed terror attacks or attempted attacks every nine days in 2017 on average, analysis of security incidents has revealed.

Since January, around 45 people have been killed by mostly Islamic terrorists, while hundreds have been injured. The only known incident not linked to jihadism in 2017 was the attack on the Borussia Dortmund soccer team by a Russian-German national attempting to profit from short-selling stock in the company.

Attacks and attempted attacks have taken place in Austria, France, the United Kingdom, Belgium, Italy, Russia, Sweden, Norway, and Germany.

Security services in Britain — population 65 million — are known to be tracking 3,500 potential terror suspects or persons posing a threat. Meanwhile Belgium, with its population of just 12 million, is tracking around 18,000 potential jihadists.

ZeroHedge
UK Deploys Army As Terror Threat Raised To Critical, May Warns "More Attacks Imminent" (Videoooooooooooo)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-23/uk-pm-theresa-may-raises-threat-level-critical-deploys-military-personnel
Snippet:
"It is now concluded on the basis of today's investigations that the threat level should be increased for the time being from severe to critical,"
she said in a televised statement following a meeting of the government's crisis response committee. This means that their assessment is not only that an attack remains highly likely but that a further attack may be imminent."
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Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

goyacobol said:
My heart goes out to those victims of the bombing and all the forum members here from the UK. There is not country on earth that isn't under threat now.

One of the best reports I have seen that explains the root/roots of the problem is one by Tucker Carlson on Fox News. Give him just a little more time and I think he'll be up to full speed.

Tucker Carlson Tonight 5/23/17 | Fox News Today May 23, 2017

I just watched the whole show and I'd say that Carlson is generally correct on the things that the so-called 'alternative right' are correct these days; but likewise he is off the mark on the points they often miss. While he is right in pointing out the anti-Russian hysteria and how Russia should be treated as an ally in the fight vs terror, he puts side by side in the same segment a "former Islamic extremist" who condemns the "ideology of theocratic extremism" (nothing wrong with that) and Katie Hopkins, who enjoys blurring the lines between the Muslim community at large and terrorists. Hopkins got herself in trouble yesterday for tweeting that a "final solution" was required and she is now apparently being investigated by the police for hate speech. On the Carlson show she explained that she only meant that she wanted to put an end to this problem, but it's easy to see how much more is implied by her very unfortunate phrase. Was she truly not aware of what she was saying? I doubt it.

People like Carlson or Paul Joseph Watson often have valid points but their intellectual knives seem to go blunt when making important distinctions about certain topics, like the origins of terrorism or how to go about dealing with it. For them it tends to be about "the Muslims", period.

Much more progress would be made against terrorist groups if foreign policy changed: stop making deals with terror sponsors and supporters, like the Gulf states or Israel, and give the support to the more secular and tolerant governments in the region, like Syria or Iran, who are really fighting terror. Stop trying to impose regime change abroad and stop 'managing' the terror threat at home for political gains (as in false flags or simply failing to go after terrorists 'known to the police'), etc. A truly stable Middle East would mean less immigration to Europe and less of the social problems that come with it (not just the possibility that extremists come along). But of course all these things would mean going against the games of the 'deep state', and who in power is going to have enough integrity and intelligence to be able to do it? In the UK, Corbyn might try, which is one reason they won't let him win. And even if he does, they are going to make his life impossible.

On that note, I've been thinking that the Manchester attack was indeed meant to steer some voters back to Mrs Strong & Stable, but more than that, I think it also helps to provide a narrative for a rigged election. If May ends up winning in spite of the massive support Corbyn is getting, people will be able to explain it as a shift in the public mood due to the terrorist threat.
 
Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

Windmill knight said:
goyacobol said:
My heart goes out to those victims of the bombing and all the forum members here from the UK. There is not country on earth that isn't under threat now.

One of the best reports I have seen that explains the root/roots of the problem is one by Tucker Carlson on Fox News. Give him just a little more time and I think he'll be up to full speed.

Tucker Carlson Tonight 5/23/17 | Fox News Today May 23, 2017

I just watched the whole show and I'd say that Carlson is generally correct on the things that the so-called 'alternative right' are correct these days; but likewise he is off the mark on the points they often miss. While he is right in pointing out the anti-Russian hysteria and how Russia should be treated as an ally in the fight vs terror, he puts side by side in the same segment a "former Islamic extremist" who condemns the "ideology of theocratic extremism" (nothing wrong with that) and Katie Hopkins, who enjoys blurring the lines between the Muslim community at large and terrorists. Hopkins got herself in trouble yesterday for tweeting that a "final solution" was required and she is now apparently being investigated by the police for hate speech. On the Carlson show she explained that she only meant that she wanted to put an end to this problem, but it's easy to see how much more is implied by her very unfortunate phrase. Was she truly not aware of what she was saying? I doubt it.

People like Carlson or Paul Joseph Watson often have valid points but their intellectual knives seem to go blunt when making important distinctions about certain topics, like the origins of terrorism or how to go about dealing with it. For them it tends to be about "the Muslims", period.

Much more progress would be made against terrorist groups if foreign policy changed: stop making deals with terror sponsors and supporters, like the Gulf states or Israel, and give the support to the more secular and tolerant governments in the region, like Syria or Iran, who are really fighting terror. Stop trying to impose regime change abroad and stop 'managing' the terror threat at home for political gains (as in false flags or simply failing to go after terrorists 'known to the police'), etc. A truly stable Middle East would mean less immigration to Europe and less of the social problems that come with it (not just the possibility that extremists come along). But of course all these things would mean going against the games of the 'deep state', and who in power is going to have enough integrity and intelligence to be able to do it? In the UK, Corbyn might try, which is one reason they won't let him win. And even if he does, they are going to make his life impossible.

On that note, I've been thinking that the Manchester attack was indeed meant to steer some voters back to Mrs Strong & Stable, but more than that, I think it also helps to provide a narrative for a rigged election. If May ends up winning in spite of the massive support Corbyn is getting, people will be able to explain it as a shift in the public mood due to the terrorist threat.

For a moderate view you are right on. I am just thankful for any scrap of truth allowed to bleed through the MSM. I really don't think Fox News would give anyone more time to get up to "full speed". Tucker would be fired before that could happen I think.

Tucker is also very moderated in his exchange with David Tafuri on the Russian part being played in Ukraine and Syria. He sticks to a very narrow expression of disbelief in his answers but that for me is at least refreshing to see. He doesn't let the idiot repeat the propaganda without any resistance.

The reporting as a whole is not a great victory and your points are well taken about issues such as blaming the attack on the Muslims, period and the setting the the mood for the upcoming elections.

If Carlson Tucker would continue to develop his "disbelief" he probably would go the route of CBS News Ben Swann does a "Reality Check" on Pizzagate.

After reporting on the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, Swann closed his social media accounts. Ben Swann still appears to be missing from any media footprint.

Where is Ben Swann?
above article said:
I’m happy he’s safe, but I’m disappointed with the answer of Where is Ben Swann? America’s star journalist is working at a local television station, reporting on local problems, with no voice to speak on potentially paramount national issues.

If Carlson Tucker continues he will probably end up like Ben Swann.
 
Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

U.K. Police Name Suicide Bomber After 22 Killed at Pop Concert

_https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-22/u-k-police-say-number-of-fatalities-after-blast-in-manchester
Quote

The worst terrorist incident on U.K. soil since 2005 comes just two weeks before a general election. All parties have suspended campaigning indefinitely. Prime Minister Theresa May visited Manchester Children’s Hospital and earlier vowed to fight the “ideology” behind the attack on a concert venue packed with young fans of U.S. pop star Ariana Grande.

And how exactly does one fight an ideology, it seems to be a cover in order to have a perpetual excuse to continue the psychopathic agenda of sowing death and destruction. So the narrative is no longer about defeating a certain terrorist group, (that they themselves spawned) but fighting something that's vague, to say the least.
 
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Anthony said:
U.K. Police Name Suicide Bomber After 22 Killed at Pop Concert

_https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-22/u-k-police-say-number-of-fatalities-after-blast-in-manchester
Quote

The worst terrorist incident on U.K. soil since 2005 comes just two weeks before a general election. All parties have suspended campaigning indefinitely. Prime Minister Theresa May visited Manchester Children’s Hospital and earlier vowed to fight the “ideology” behind the attack on a concert venue packed with young fans of U.S. pop star Ariana Grande.

And how exactly does one fight an ideology, it seems to be a cover in order to have a perpetual excuse to continue the psychopathic agenda of sowing death and destruction. So the narrative is no longer about defeating a certain terrorist group, (that they themselves spawned) but fighting something that's vague, to say the least.

Her statement is so phony it's ridiculous! I think you hit the nail on the head, it's vague and abstract, how would you start and where would you stop fighting "an ideology"?

I agree with others that this whole scenario plays perfectly into Theresa May's "strong and stable" hands. Part of me really hopes that Corbyn does get in and judging by social media and people that I speak to he definitely seems to have more support now, but I can't see how they will allow it to happen, he seems like too much of a threat. Let's say the PTB did mess up and miscalculate the US election and Brexit like the C's said, I don't see why they would take that chance again, they didn't with Le Pen anyway.

I will be voting for Corbyn, if only to send a signal out to the universe.
 
Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

c.a. said:
Since January, around 45 people have been killed by mostly Islamic terrorists, while hundreds have been injured. The only known incident not linked to jihadism in 2017 was the attack on the Borussia Dortmund soccer team by a Russian-German national attempting to profit from short-selling stock in the company.

Still got a long way to go ,
if they want to catch up with
Ian Duncan Smiths , estimated 20'000 deaths due to benefit cuts.

That's the price of security I guess.
 
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c.a. said:
Breitbart
2017 Has Seen a Terror Attack Attempted in Europe Every Nine Days
23 May 2017
_http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/23/2017-seen-terror-attack-attempted-europe-every-nine-days/
Links within for the Chart and Data
_http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/05/DAhBnO0XgAANaAM-640x480.png
Europe, the United Kingdom, and Russia have witnessed terror attacks or attempted attacks every nine days in 2017 on average, analysis of security incidents has revealed.

Since January, around 45 people have been killed by mostly Islamic terrorists, while hundreds have been injured. The only known incident not linked to jihadism in 2017 was the attack on the Borussia Dortmund soccer team by a Russian-German national attempting to profit from short-selling stock in the company.

Attacks and attempted attacks have taken place in Austria, France, the United Kingdom, Belgium, Italy, Russia, Sweden, Norway, and Germany.

Security services in Britain — population 65 million — are known to be tracking 3,500 potential terror suspects or persons posing a threat. Meanwhile Belgium, with its population of just 12 million, is tracking around 18,000 potential jihadists.

Ahh, that's probably where my co-worker got the info about terrorist happenings every nine days in Europe. Breitbart.

goyacobol said:
Windmill knight said:
goyacobol said:
My heart goes out to those victims of the bombing and all the forum members here from the UK. There is not country on earth that isn't under threat now.

One of the best reports I have seen that explains the root/roots of the problem is one by Tucker Carlson on Fox News. Give him just a little more time and I think he'll be up to full speed.

Tucker Carlson Tonight 5/23/17 | Fox News Today May 23, 2017

I just watched the whole show and I'd say that Carlson is generally correct on the things that the so-called 'alternative right' are correct these days; but likewise he is off the mark on the points they often miss. While he is right in pointing out the anti-Russian hysteria and how Russia should be treated as an ally in the fight vs terror, he puts side by side in the same segment a "former Islamic extremist" who condemns the "ideology of theocratic extremism" (nothing wrong with that) and Katie Hopkins, who enjoys blurring the lines between the Muslim community at large and terrorists. Hopkins got herself in trouble yesterday for tweeting that a "final solution" was required and she is now apparently being investigated by the police for hate speech. On the Carlson show she explained that she only meant that she wanted to put an end to this problem, but it's easy to see how much more is implied by her very unfortunate phrase. Was she truly not aware of what she was saying? I doubt it.

People like Carlson or Paul Joseph Watson often have valid points but their intellectual knives seem to go blunt when making important distinctions about certain topics, like the origins of terrorism or how to go about dealing with it. For them it tends to be about "the Muslims", period.

Much more progress would be made against terrorist groups if foreign policy changed: stop making deals with terror sponsors and supporters, like the Gulf states or Israel, and give the support to the more secular and tolerant governments in the region, like Syria or Iran, who are really fighting terror. Stop trying to impose regime change abroad and stop 'managing' the terror threat at home for political gains (as in false flags or simply failing to go after terrorists 'known to the police'), etc. A truly stable Middle East would mean less immigration to Europe and less of the social problems that come with it (not just the possibility that extremists come along). But of course all these things would mean going against the games of the 'deep state', and who in power is going to have enough integrity and intelligence to be able to do it? In the UK, Corbyn might try, which is one reason they won't let him win. And even if he does, they are going to make his life impossible.

On that note, I've been thinking that the Manchester attack was indeed meant to steer some voters back to Mrs Strong & Stable, but more than that, I think it also helps to provide a narrative for a rigged election. If May ends up winning in spite of the massive support Corbyn is getting, people will be able to explain it as a shift in the public mood due to the terrorist threat.

For a moderate view you are right on. I am just thankful for any scrap of truth allowed to bleed through the MSM. I really don't think Fox News would give anyone more time to get up to "full speed". Tucker would be fired before that could happen I think.

Tucker is also very moderated in his exchange with David Tafuri on the Russian part being played in Ukraine and Syria. He sticks to a very narrow expression of disbelief in his answers but that for me is at least refreshing to see. He doesn't let the idiot repeat the propaganda without any resistance.

The reporting as a whole is not a great victory and your points are well taken about issues such as blaming the attack on the Muslims, period and the setting the the mood for the upcoming elections.

If Carlson Tucker would continue to develop his "disbelief" he probably would go the route of CBS News Ben Swann does a "Reality Check" on Pizzagate.

After reporting on the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, Swann closed his social media accounts. Ben Swann still appears to be missing from any media footprint.

Where is Ben Swann?
above article said:
I’m happy he’s safe, but I’m disappointed with the answer of Where is Ben Swann? America’s star journalist is working at a local television station, reporting on local problems, with no voice to speak on potentially paramount national issues.

If Carlson Tucker continues he will probably end up like Ben Swann.

And it looks like Sean Hannity's Fox News show is on the ropes, too, due to his brief Seth Rich murder coverage and cancelled interview with Kim Dot.Com. Hannity totally backed down last night regarding info that Seth Rich was the DNC guy who gave Wikileaks Podesta's emails. Fox News issued an apology and swiped any article or mention of Seth Rich and the strange circumstances around his death. Hannity has been silenced and there is talk he will be fired soon. No one in the MSM, including Seth Rich's parents, want to go there. The MSM is in a mad scramble to discredit and ignore the known facts of this case.

The show continues.
 
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Jenn said:
Anthony said:
U.K. Police Name Suicide Bomber After 22 Killed at Pop Concert

_https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-22/u-k-police-say-number-of-fatalities-after-blast-in-manchester
Quote

The worst terrorist incident on U.K. soil since 2005 comes just two weeks before a general election. All parties have suspended campaigning indefinitely. Prime Minister Theresa May visited Manchester Children’s Hospital and earlier vowed to fight the “ideology” behind the attack on a concert venue packed with young fans of U.S. pop star Ariana Grande.

And how exactly does one fight an ideology, it seems to be a cover in order to have a perpetual excuse to continue the psychopathic agenda of sowing death and destruction. So the narrative is no longer about defeating a certain terrorist group, (that they themselves spawned) but fighting something that's vague, to say the least.

Her statement is so phony it's ridiculous! I think you hit the nail on the head, it's vague and abstract, how would you start and where would you stop fighting "an ideology"?

I agree with others that this whole scenario plays perfectly into Theresa May's "strong and stable" hands. Part of me really hopes that Corbyn does get in and judging by social media and people that I speak to he definitely seems to have more support now, but I can't see how they will allow it to happen, he seems like too much of a threat. Let's say the PTB did mess up and miscalculate the US election and Brexit like the C's said, I don't see why they would take that chance again, they didn't with Le Pen anyway.

I will be voting for Corbyn, if only to send a signal out to the universe.

Same here! As for Treason May, it's almost as if she is so concerned about offending anyone that she decided to go after the "ideology" and not any group of people in particular. I wonder if in her supreme clumsiness she will not spoil her golden opportunity and end up upsetting people even more with her way of handling the "terror threat". After all, people have been promised a strong & stable leader and if she lets them down... well we'll see. I'm not super hopeful at this point. To think that just a couple of days ago it was starting to look like a Corbyn victory was a very real possibility!
 
Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

CrossTalk: Now, Manchester
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIN-aIOxqX0
Published on May 24, 2017
Now Manchester is a victim of terrorism. On the back of Donald Trump’s visit to Saudi Arabia isn’t it time to start the vital conversation on terrorism and the West’s involvement in the Middle East?
CrossTalking with Joshua Landis, Sami Ramadani, and Brian McGlinchey.

Independent
Manchester bombing: Photos of device used in terror attack revealed
Images emerge just hours after Home Secretary Amber Rudd warned US against sharing details of investigation ahead of UK
_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-bombing-photos-device-backpack-shrapnel-detonator-salman-abedi-images-a7754281.html
Link Pic's of other circumstantial evidence with a sound bight of Amber Rudd bbc
manchester-evidence.jpg


Suicide bomber Salman Abedi may have carried the powerful explosive used in the terror attack on Manchester Arena in a lightweight metal container concealed within either a black vest or a blue Karrimor backpack, according to reports published by The New York Times.

Abedi is also thought to have held the detonator in his left hand, the paper said, attributing the intelligence to "preliminary information gathered by British authorities".

The paper published crime scene photos of what appeared to be the blood-smeared silver detonator, with wires trailing from one end.

"The apparent detonator, which British law enforcement officials said was carried in the bomber's left hand, is also unusual for a manual detonator in a suicide device, in that it appears to have contained a small circuit board soldered inside one end," the paper reported.

"It is not clear from the law enforcement images if the object was a simple plunger switch, or included a timer or a receiver that could be operated remotely via radio signal – or some combination."

The Home Office declined to comment on the suggestion that the intelligence had been leaked by US authorities, just hours after Home Secretary Amber Rudd warned US officials not to share details about terror attacks, such as the Manchester bombing, before their UK counterparts.

Ms Rudd said she had reprimanded US officials who appear to have shared information with US media before it was released in the UK by British security services.

"I have been very clear with our friends that that should not happen again," she said, calling it "irritating" when information was released as British authorities continued their investigation.

There was no immediate response from Downing Street, but it is possible that Theresa May could raise the issue with President Donald Trump when they meet at the Nato summit in Brussels on Thursday.

Police and security agencies investigating the case regard it as crucial to the success of their operation to be able to control the release of information.

Abedi's name was circulating in the US media on Tuesday, hours before it was confirmed by UK police, who had earlier urged reporters not to publish speculation about the bomber's identity.

The pic above looks similar to a:
_https://www.google.fr/search?q=siren+whistle&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnrNTJt4nUAhWBXBoKHSeJDi4Q_AUICCgD&biw=1920&bih=931
 
Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

Windmill knight said:
On that note, I've been thinking that the Manchester attack was indeed meant to steer some voters back to Mrs Strong & Stable, but more than that, I think it also helps to provide a narrative for a rigged election. If May ends up winning in spite of the massive support Corbyn is getting, people will be able to explain it as a shift in the public mood due to the terrorist threat.

I had the same thought, it seems to be part of the MO of these attacks, which are now aimed specifically at population control in Western nations rather than being used to justify foreign wars.
 
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From the Voltaire Network:

http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html

Manchester Attack as MI6 Blowback
25 MAY 2017

According to Scotland Yard, the attack on the crowd leaving the Ariana Grande concert at Manchester Arena, 22 May, has been perpetrated by Salman Abedi. A bankcard has been conveniently found in the pocket of the mutilated corpse of the ‘terrorist’.

This attack is generally interpreted as proof that the United Kingdom is not implicated in international terrorism and that, on the contrary, it is a victim of it.

Salman Abedi was born in the UK of a family of Libyan immigrants. He has travelled to Libya several times in the last couple of months, with or without his father.

His father Ramadan Abedi, with whom Salman lived, is a former officer in [Gaddafi’s] Libyan Intelligence Services. He specialised in the surveillance of the Islamist movement, but two decades later has failed to notice that his son has joined Daesh (IS).

In 1992, Ramadan Abedi was sent back to Libya by Britain’s MI6 and was involved in a British-devised plot to assassinate Muammar Gaddafi. The operation having been readily exposed, he was exfiltrated by MI6 and transferred back to the UK where he obtained political asylum. He moved in 1999 to Whalley Range (south of Manchester) where there was already resident a small Libyan Islamist community.

In 1994, Ramadan Abedi returned again to Libya under MI6’s direction. In late 1995 he is involved in the creation of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a local branch of Al-Qaeda, in conjunction with Abdelhakim Belhadj. The LIFG was then employed by MI6 again to assassinate Gaddafi, for a payoff of £100,000. This operation, which also failed, provoked heated exchanges within British Intelligence, leading to the resignation of one David Shayler.

Other former members of the LIFG have also lived at Whalley Range, including Abedi’s friend Abd al-Baset-Azzouz. In 2009, this last joined Al-Qaeda in Pakistan and became a close associate of its chief, Ayman al-Zawahiri. In 2011, al-Baset-Azzouz is active on the ground with the NATO operation against Libya. On 11 September 2012, he directs the operation against the US Ambassador in Libya, Christopher Stevens, assassinated at Benghazi. He is arrested in Turkey and extradited to the US in December 2014, his trial still pending.

Nobody pays attention to the fact that Ramadan Abedi has linked LIFG members to the formation of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and, in 2011, he takes part in MI6’s ‘Arab Spring’ operations, and in LIFG’s role on the ground in support of NATO. In any event, Abedi returned to Libya after the fall of Gaddafi and moves his family there, leaving his older children in the family home at Whalley Range.

According to the former Spanish Prime Minister José Maria Aznar, Abdelhakim Belhadj was involved in the assassinations in Madrid of 11 March 2004. Later, he is secretly arrested in Malaysia by the CIA and transferred to Libya where he is tortured not by Libyan or American functionaries but by MI6 agents. He is finally freed after the accord between Saif al-Islam Gaddafi [Gaddafi’s son] and the jihadists.

During the Libyan war, Belhadj, who had been living in Qatar, returned to Libya, courtesy of the Qatari Emir, and commanded the operations on the ground in league with NATO. On 28 July 2011, he organised the assassination of General Abdul Fatah Younis who claimed to have joined the ‘rebels’, but who Belhadj accused of overseeing the struggle against the LIFG during the 1990s.

In September 2011, Belhadj was named military governor of Tripoli by NATO. In 2012, seconded by the Irish-Libyan Mahdi al-Hatari, he created the Free Syrian Army, then returns again to Libya. On 2 May 2014, he is received officially at the Quai d’Orsay [the French Foreign Ministry].

In December 2013, following the discovery in the archives of Gaddafi’s Libyan regime of a letter from the former chief of MI6, Belhadj launches proceedings in London against the UK for having kidnapped and tortured him nine years earlier. British Intelligence then illegally places his lawyers under phone-tapping, although it is ultimately constrained to destroy the intelligence obtained.

According to Egypt’s Prosecutor General, Hisham Barakat, in May 2015, Belhadj becomes Daesh’ most senior figure in North Africa, this claim taken up by Interpol. Belhadj installs three training camps for Daesh in Libya at Derna (in the former property of Abd al-Baset-Azzouz), at Syrte and at Sebrata. In October 2016, he launches in London new legal proceedings regarding his kidnapping and torture, this time nominally against the former director of MI6, Sir Mark Allen.

Daesh has claimed responsibility for the Manchester attack, but without describing Salman Abedi as a ‘martyr’. After the assassination, Ramadan Abedi has declared his opposition to jihad in a telephone conversation with journalists. He has also claimed that his son had intended to spend the month of Ramadan [beginning 26 May] with him in Libya and that he is convinced of his innocence.
 
Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

Spinmisters twist the attack, as "a war on women" ............. :huh:

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Manchester bombing 'an attack on girlhood' (Videoooooooooo)
The Business Journals May 24, 2017, 11:16am PDT
_http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/bizwomen/news/latest-news/2017/05/manchester-bombing-an-attack-on-girlhood.html

Red Links Within: The usual suspect's of propaganda
The suicide bombing that killed 22 people and injured dozens of others at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, was “an attack on girlhood,” Time reports.

“It was a blow delivered at a moment of budding independence, to young girls taking their first, carefree steps toward becoming empowered women.”

The Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack, The New York Times reports, saying in one social media post that “one of the soldiers of the caliphate was able to place an explosive device within a gathering of the crusaders in the city of Manchester.”

Rolling Stone writes that “misogyny was deeply woven into this attack.”

The suicide bomber “gave the world a sick reminder of the dangers of being a woman in public in 2017, attacking largely female concertgoers for doing nothing but enjoying themselves while listening to music.”

For many attending the concert on Grande’s “Dangerous Woman” tour, it was their first live music event, the Atlantic reports.

“Images and video of the aftermath of the bombing, depicting teenagers fleeing from the event, reveal some still clutching the pink balloons that Grande’s team had released during the show. The youngest confirmed victim of the attack, Saffie Rose Roussos, was 8 years old.”

All of those who attended will suffer some degree of post-traumatic consequences in the coming months and years, Slate reports.

“But the teens and children in the audience, who are still in the middle of developing their conceptions of themselves and the world, may find those notions irrevocably altered.”

Grande’s concert “was a milestone as much as a show, a step in their transition from impressionable girls to independent women,” per Time.

“These were precocious girls on their way to becoming Dangerous Women. Exactly the kind of women ISIS hates.”

Video
http://players.brightcove.net/293884104/SJa0Thl7_default/index.html?videoId=5444335611001'
 
Re: UK election surprise: Manchester terror attack

There are so many other topics and agendas that get Passed over during events like this.

The whole arguement that Ariane grande is providing a positive Role Model for young girls , for example.

That topic I guess is off limits now,
and in Fact from the above post has been spun , along with every other Angle,

Katie hopkins asking for more Power for the Govt that already had the power to stop this , is just one contradiction ,
that isnt aired.
 
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