What do the rich and powerful fantasize about?

[benkostka]

Again, I would recommend researching…. Literally there’s an article on SOTT the other day about a gay couple that adopted children and did some of the darkest things you can “ponder”.

Read Cleckley’s The Caricature of Love. It discusses all types of sexual perversions.

Go watch the Kay Griggs interview about the stuff happening in the military.

Go read some Plato. He advocated sex between boys and men exclusively…. Imagine how that degrades women eh?

Curious of those types of perverts are protected? Read about Cryil Smith and how MI5 covered it up.

In short, research. Then you can fill your knowledge gap on just how sick and perverted it gets.

 

[Tauriel]

Normal sex gets boring, even for us rabble...when you can obtain any perversion, would they get farther and farther from accepted norms...

Is that so? I don't agree and would make me quite sad to assume so.

Knowning about snuff movies and child pornography they know no limit, I fear.

Written material about this issue is not hard to find but due to the nature of the subject matter one finds as much material that debunks these stories. As far as I know there is nothing that couldn't be dismissed as just fantasy or disinformation, like for example 'Tranceformation of America' by Cathy O'Brian.
A true rabbit hole indeed.

 

[Tauriel]

Go watch the Kay Griggs interview

Thanks for the reminder- I was just trying to recall her name. Great material.

Written by Richard Hoskins there's 'The Boy in the River'.
'The Franklin Cover-Up' by John DeCamp (some shady aspects about DeCamp himself though).
But as Benkostka said- research is it.

 

[Ichbee]

The recent exchange of ideas on dreams /fantasies has caused me to think about the 'rules' that govern our involvement.

E.g. some of the underpinning principles about our current reality might be:
We inhabit a STS reality - energy = power = 'success'
It is a predator world where it is necessary (by design) to compete & fight in order to 'survive'
The vehicles we use (our physical bodies) are inadequate for that purpose (& appear to have been designed by a committee /lowest tender)
We do this by choice (free will) i.e. we are volunteers
We are actors on the stage & have willingly given our permission to be part of the cast (whether as lead or bit-part)
Everything is a lesson (there is no other reason for taking part)
We have choice to make (between STO & STS?)
We can withdraw our permission whenever we want - as long as we can remember how to do so
We are here to learn & experience - that is the end-game? i.e. know thyself
We are part of an eternal cycle that repeats - it is concurrently (I.e. all at the same moment) both self-aware & unaware
Time is artificial & just part of the school environment
Good & Evil are just points of view, driven by individual perspectives - e.g. are you the protagonist in today's play, or a spear-carrier
Personal choice matters, but experience of all capabilities /options might be the driving force i.e. karma - you are responsible

Two further thoughts:
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely

If you gaze into the Abyss long enough, it will gaze right back at you

 

[Artex]

If you are poor, fantasies about just anything are on your radar.

The more wealth and power you attain, more of those old fantasies become obtainable.

We all have the daydream/fantasy gene...so thats my question....people like Bill Gates and Elon, can have anything they want, but what do you suppose they "might" think about. Its an odd topic, but I get these strange ideas once in awhile.

There was an interview with a "new" tech millionaire a couple years back I watched, and he said the hardest thing to do on the way up is to maintain who you are. The more money you have, the more things that are attainable/obtainable, the more extreme the behavior of his peers became, the more thirsty they became for something they didn't have. When you can buy anything that has a price tag, you start to desire things without a price tag. He said he would go to parties and be offered drugs, while recognizing that drugs use is not how you become a millionaire. Prostitutes and orgies became recurring themes. To his credit, he spoke of how much he disliked this but that he was fearful that influence from his peers would eventually make him into something he is not.

 

[benkostka]

Thanks for the reminder- I was just trying to recall her name. Great material.

Written by Richard Hoskins there's 'The Boy in the River'.
'The Franklin Cover-Up' by John DeCamp (some shady aspects about DeCamp himself though).
But as Benkostka said- research is it.

Things that can be verified are better IMO, take a look at how NXIVM operated and if people are curious whether “high end” sex parties exist, just check out the organization SNTCM….. bunch of nut cases wearing deer antlers and having orgies all with the usual crap, sygils of Satan and Lucifer on their walls like all the occult freaks.

But who wants to sit down and write about sexual perversions….. Well actually they do this to children and detail it out. My god, it’s not a subject that one casually discusses.

 

[Tauriel]

Things that can be verified are better IMO

You're right. NXIVM is a very good example.
Over many years I looked at so much material but am aware that most of it cannot be verified.
So I was hesistant to share material but you came up with some pretty good examples.

If ones feels inclined to look into this abyss one has to brace oneself. For sure it changes the view one has of this world.

 

[benkostka]

You're right. NXIVM is a very good example.
Over many years I looked at so much material but am aware that most of it cannot be verified.
So I was hesistant to share material but you came up with some pretty good examples.

If ones feels inclined to look into this abyss one has to brace oneself. For sure it changes the view one has on this world.

Exactly my feeling…. Then you can figure out what path you’ll take and perhaps avoid the “getting bored with sex” bs that’s discussed. You can’t expect to form the type of relationship with another person that is possible, without first cleaning out your own mental garbage. Essentially “doing the Work”.

 

[FM258]

Id like to request a Moderator close this thread.

 

[benkostka]

Here’s the townhall investigation. Ain’t exactly light reading.

TAPES: We Investigated a Suburban LGBTQ Pedophile Ring. Here's What We Found.

townhall.com

 

[T.C.]

Pizzagate and Jeffry Epstein should be searched for as well.

 

[Happy Poo]

I dunno a few silly thoughts came to mind. Was just having a giggle to myself at this one, the elite are all pretty nuts

- Wearing a nice outfit on the Yacht with everyone admiring them

- Which posh hotel to stay at next

- Not much..

- Coating themselves in goat hoof powder

- Being told how great they are

- How next to screw the poor

- What posh horse to buy to make everyone jealous

- Which posh restaurant to go to next (raw cat poo is very fashionable at the moment apparently)

- Not much

 

[Glenn]

Again, I would recommend researching…. Literally there’s an article on SOTT the other day about a gay couple that adopted children and did some of the darkest things you can “ponder”.

Read Cleckley’s The Caricature of Love. It discusses all types of sexual perversions.

Go watch the Kay Griggs interview about the stuff happening in the military.

Go read some Plato. He advocated sex between boys and men exclusively…. Imagine how that degrades women eh?

Curious of those types of perverts are protected? Read about Cryil Smith and how MI5 covered it up.

In short, research. Then you can fill your knowledge gap on just how sick and perverted it gets.

I agree. Better to read the research than just endlessly speculate.

On second thought, I think that value can be taken from any thread, including this one...

 

[Voyageur]

....Eyes Wide Shut comes to mind...would it include minors...etc... was just something I was pondering, and had run into the forum titled "whats on your mind" and decided to put it in writing. Not a very well thought out thread, but I thought it had potential to widen my beliefs about the topic, and it didn't disappoint there.

Yes, that film certainly does come to mind and mirrors some of the types discussed in the Billionaire book thread. Some of them were simply bone chilling - presented under the mask of fiction, yet none should be deceived that it is fictional. What happened to the producer of the film also does not go unnoticed.

Regarding potential, hopefully it did/does, yet then you asked:

Id like to request a Moderator close this thread.

Perhaps you can expand on this request?

In that sense, I haven't found this thread, even though some of these concepts are also explored elsewhere in the forum, a waste of time, personally.

Same.

 

[Z...]

I would think this nice pictorial can give you pretty good idea what they fantasize about... duty of truth in a nutshell