What do the rich and powerful fantasize about?
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JGeropoulas
The Living Force
People often defend their actions by saying "I wasn't being (a jerk, rude, insulting...), I was just being (direct, blunt, telling the truth...)". If so, then that presents the challenge of how to be direct without coming across as a jerk; to be blunt without coming across as rude; or to tell the truth without being insulting. As I'm sure we've all learned the hard way, before speaking it's wise to first be direct, blunt and truthful with ourselves in evaluating our motives, then practice external consideration by pondering who we're speaking to and how they might perceive our words.
I get it. I’ll never agree with certain members of the forum. So I won’t post much and I’ll watch to see what happens. It’s all odd to me though, a guy arrives. Uses an avatar of a psychopath from a movie and then wonders what Bill Gates fantasies about and probably has no clue why the forum was started as evidenced from his posts. Then he changes his avatar after another member also found it to be offensive…. But lets not be “jerks” and use words lest we offend people.
It’s a tough thing right, if there’s actually a chance of 200 people changing things by figuring out who each one of them are…. Separating the wheat from the chaff. Anyway, as mentioned I won’t be posting unless it’s contributing to a research thread as to not offend anyone. If the line of force of things change, all I can really do is not support it.
JGeropoulas
The Living Force
Maybe you're overlooking a middle ground of speaking truth, but in a way that doesn't activate programs and ego defenses, or perhaps settle for simply planting one small seed (e.g. something as minor as "I see that in a different way.") trusting that others in that person's path later can nurture that seed into sprouting. It's very easy to spew out all the truth we know and overwhelm others. It's much more "Work" to restrain ourselves and tell only the amount of truth which will be helpful at that point. Humility can help us be more effective by keeping us mindful that we're not fully responsible for anyone else's enlightenment.
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All that just hits me as word salad. Which is ok, it’s why I’ll limit engagement. The issue was what Bill Gates has fantasies about, which I felt was irrelevant because we can see what he’s doing which is more important. In fact the C’s just mentioned him and Klaus as two people who are paving the way for 4D STS and are “plugged in”, which is why I mentioned Greenbaum programming.
You ever see that scene in Braveheart with Steven the Irishmen? Maybe think about why he acted like that eh? He sure showed restraint. But some would say he sure was a jerk…..
Not sure where you are coming from with this line of thinking... I like to know where a person is coming from, and seeing what programs they have is a big indicator to me. I can't see how dealing with someone in a way that allows them to hide behind their mask is beneficial to me. Not speaking to this person specifically, but to strangers in general.
Toni Lorenzo
Jedi
Billionaires seldom talk in numbers or ever really speak about money (of course there are examples to the contrary), rather ideas which in turn produce wealth. The carbon footprint of a Billionaire is gigantic and although greed may or may not be their driving force, they still seem to share the same basic instinct of survival, from how to maintain wealth and various ways to increase it. (BTW, FM258 - I'm X-1st 214th Aviation Battalion Germany, 1st Squadron, 6th Cavalry Regiment (Gen. Lee), Ft. Riley, V-Corp Army Europe, with one year in South Korea and still, one of U.S. Army's best kept secrets. Hooha!)
SlipNet
The Living Force
I've been thinking things over today, and I think you're correct in your assessment. He did mine the soul, so to speak, and brought some interesting insights to the public. It was just reading about his cultish compound with his "witches" in attendance, which I found very off-putting. So I was a bit premature in throwing the baby out with the (admittedly very filthy) bathwater. His ideas on "the predator's mind" do need to be kept in mind, especially as we are now approaching a very testing time vis a vis the alien invasion, as referenced in the latest C's session. I apologise if I came across as terse in my initial dismissal of his work, and your estimation of it.
Sol Logos
The Living Force
There’s a thread somewhere about Anart, who was a very active member. She was direct and had a knack for quickly zoning in on inadequacies of someone’s position, especially newcomers. Some of her approach to people had been discussed there. There could be some similar learnings on that thread too in relation to this topic. I couldn’t as yet find that thread. Will keep looking.
I have read that thread. She had other problems she was hiding (hence, a mask).
This comes back to my point. You need to get past the mask before really understanding where someone is coming from. Admittedly she was a little more sophisticated in her approach, and was harder to uncover... but if you know the signs, it is possible.
You could say, that dealing with her in a way to not activate her programs, allowed the situation to fester longer than it should have.
Tauriel
Dagobah Resident
That made me smile. When I first typed my answer to you I used exactly this same sentence before erasing it for the sake of brevity.
Me things the path of learning takes a lot of reconsidering, burning, cleaning away, filtering, considering again, sometimes picking up what has been already thrown out, giving it a new place in the tapestry of our learning.
zak
The Living Force
In a commentary on the video it says that Stephen is not crazy (or a jerk), just Irish, I don't know if benkostka is Irish, but at the moment as far as I can see he cannot be considered a jerk.
Everyone has their own favourite programme running, I have always preferred frankness of opinions, but even more so of ideas and i consider that straight lines are not necessarily an easy shortcut, especially in the hills.
I don't know Anart, I've come across a few posts, but it might be instructive and useful to open a new thread entitled: "Are we OK, after networking with Anart?
But is it reasonable to link Anart's facts with Benkostka?
Or am I overdoing it?
Where are we going?
I would like to ask FM258 to excuse me for this long digression from its original theme.
Well, this has become a rather interesting thread.
Tauriel
Dagobah Resident
I don't know Anart either but came across some of her posts. She seems to have a swift mind, put her fingers on weak spots quickly and goes to surgery with a sharp knife sometimes uncalled for.
That's a talent- a useful thing in many situations.
I have a similiar program running and this trait can be put to positive use in certain situations and in others it's just a misuse of energy (sts).
So in short, I believe what you do with this talent is what makes all the difference.
I can't see that Benkostka is overstepping a line.
And so as to your questions, I think that would be overdoing it and wouldn't be reasonable, imo.
