When does pride in your race cross the line?
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psychegram
The Living Force
I never got the sense that @PaleFace was suggesting anything of the sort.
Sorry, but this is a bit much. Should he take a step back and take a deep breath? Yes, maybe. God knows I've been there myself a time or two. This is a fraught subject that easily arouses emotional responses, especially in the current climate.
However, there is nothing at all in his posts that indicates an intellectual deficit.
Took you long enough. You've derailed this conversation long enough.
I beg to differ.
Does that mean you'll take your nonsense elsewhere?
Crazy, I know. Although I'm more concerned that you might survive the coming century. Are you leaving now?
PaleFace
Padawan Learner
If its nonsense, why can't you answer my simple questions without brushing me off and labeling me a Nazi and accusing me of planning rallies and then slapping posting restrictions on me?
Sounds like someone is in damage control mode to me.
You should really critically reexamine your power-tripping lil Napoleon behavior, Joe. It's low and unbecoming. And it is proof of everything that I claim: anyone who is pro-White gets into a lot of trouble by TPTB.
I wonder why?
Inquorate
Jedi Master
It's funny (as in odd), being a white guy, you quickly learn you're not allowed to even make comment on the colour of your skin, unless you are being self depreciative.. such as commenting on how you get sunburn easily.
It is a strange thing. Growing up in Australia, where we have little cultural identity, skin colour seems to be a passing peculiarity anyway.
Of course, we are taught to celebrate cultural diversity here, but the idea of racial pride is a social no-no. The only thing one is allowed to celebrate is our differences, because that is PC.. so long as your difference is not fair skin.
As Terence McKenna said, “Culture is not your friend. Culture is for other people’s convenience and the convenience of various institutions, churches, companies, tax collection schemes, what have you. It is not your friend. It insults you. It disempowers you. It uses and abuses you. None of us are well treated by culture.”
It is a strange thing. Growing up in Australia, where we have little cultural identity, skin colour seems to be a passing peculiarity anyway.
Of course, we are taught to celebrate cultural diversity here, but the idea of racial pride is a social no-no. The only thing one is allowed to celebrate is our differences, because that is PC.. so long as your difference is not fair skin.
As Terence McKenna said, “Culture is not your friend. Culture is for other people’s convenience and the convenience of various institutions, churches, companies, tax collection schemes, what have you. It is not your friend. It insults you. It disempowers you. It uses and abuses you. None of us are well treated by culture.”
Because, as a general rule, I ignore nonsense rather than engaging with it. Seems a reasonable approach.
I'm not very flattered that you think I'm part of some PTB. I don't want to burst your bubble, but the reason you're getting in trouble is because you're talking nonsense. People who incessantly talk nonsense often get in trouble of one sort or another. Also, I didn't call you a Nazi, I said you were too stupid to be one.
psychegram
The Living Force
Generational cultural disconnect.
Pretty clear from @PaleFace 's phrasing/terminology that he comes up through meme/messageboard culture. Clear to me at least, since I've interacted quite a bit with that corner of the internet. That culture tends to be rather confrontational. They're used to fighting with ideological opponents.
It's also clear that he isn't "stupid". Compositional quality alone argues against that.
I recall a few years ago being accused of something similar when I started critiquing Islam. Later the forum realized that, indeed, there were problems with Islam. To be fair I was pretty angry at the time and reacting emotionally; not my best moment. But at the same time, I had a point. Being called stupid and ignorant, as I was called at the time, didn't help matters. It just made me angrier, as I knew full well I was neither of those things.
Point being: I don't think insulting PF is helpful. He seems quite intelligent to me. I would, however, suggest that everyone - PF included - take a deep breath, take a step back, stop hurling insults, and let this particular topic lie fallow for a while.
United Gnosis
Jedi Council Member
Now, please let me reflect your earlier call for calm, and ask you to take a breath and depersonalize a bit. There is decent Work to be done in dealing with this conversation appropriately, as I'm sure you'll agree ;)
Dude. I don't know why you're here. Are you here to preach ideology, or to carry on the Work? If so, I suggest you take a breath, maybe a walk, and then come back and read this thread from the beginning.
Work at not responding to reactions and replying as you go but just witnessing the discussion again. Maybe you can be more objective once you see the arguments that you fought against which nobody had proposed. There was then a ton of personalizing-type rhetoric that leads to further identification-triggers and dysfunctional conversation.
If you are genuine, take a break, re-read, then humbly come back to share your considerations.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to celebrate the color of their skin? How do you even do that? I suppose some white people show off a bit when they come back from holiday with a nice tan. Then again, maybe that's a sign of 'white guilt' or a 'self-hating white person', ya know, showing off that your skin is less white than it was before. Paleface would probably agree. Then again, I don't think they get much sun in his part of the world, so he probably doesn't know what I'm talking about.
psychegram
The Living Force
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Resistense
Guest
Melanin pigmentation of the skin in primary biliary cirrhosis
How about all that "locally, eclusively," produced melanin, huh?
Next let's get to noses, head shapes, and counting angels on the head of a pin.
How about all that "locally, eclusively," produced melanin, huh?
Next let's get to noses, head shapes, and counting angels on the head of a pin.
