You mean carry on the Work of white emancipation?
When does pride in your race cross the line?
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You mean carry on the Work of white emancipation?
United Gnosis
Jedi Council Member
I will also be taking my own advice :)
psychegram
The Living Force
That's a strawman tbh.
Terminology notwithstanding, everyone knows full well that chromatic terms are merely convenient shorthand referring to the most obvious differences between continental groups. Pretending that it's literally about color is a silly language game that deliberately conflates signifier and signified.
Why does anyone think I'm not calm?
I'm not making an argument, I'm asking a question. If you say that no one ever actually celebrates the color of their skin, then I'm glad to hear that. If you say that the term "celebrating whiteness" actually means celebrating the culture and history of predominantly white societies, then it should be described in precisely that way. After that, you have to explain how "celebrating" such things actually manifests. Only then can anyone decide if there is something wrong with it.
United Gnosis
Jedi Council Member
The, 'i beg to differ', 'too stupid to be a nazi'. I understand you said your stance is to not interact with nonsense, and in a way you were being categorically dismissive, same as I was when I stated 'identity politics is always spiritual cancer'.
I understand that the issue seems like nonsense because the issue of exoteric 'identity' cannot be anything but incoherent, it is a non-question. But I approached it because I felt PF might be somewhat genuine in his attempt to communicate, and tried to dig into it.
But so far we've heard a lot from what sounds like a preachy triggered identity fragment . I harbor the secret hope this discussion will evolve nicely after a break.
Checking out,
psychegram
The Living Force
I've literally never heard of anyone celebrating their skin color.
I've also never heard of anyone "celebrating whiteness". Or "celebrating asianness" or "indianess" for that matter. What I have heard of is people taking pride in their heritage, passing down traditions, appreciating their culture and history, and caring for the people around them.
Thanksgiving dinner. Christmas stockings. Reading history. Reading classic literature. Weddings with brides in white dresses being given away by their fathers and kissed by their grooms. A million other obvious examples drawn from the rich tapestry of European tradition and culture. Normal stuff like that, really.
psychegram
The Living Force
Hard to step away from these threads (for me as well lol).
You've heard of "whiteness" though, I presume?
Whiteness studies - Wikipedia
Try a google search for the term. You'll be amazed.
That's because it is, or at least, that is the stance we take here, and for good reason. It's pretty clear there was no meeting of the minds possible with paleface, from the very beginning of his contributions on this topic. He's fully immersed in the identity politics he thinks he opposes.
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Resistense
Guest
Oh, that guy must have thought he was Davy Crockett, and not a drug addict and a flunkie.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
God, there's so much fireworks in this thread. I can't help but think this type of conversation nowadays is a bit strange when literally we're witnessing the world remould itself on the lines of vax and unvaxxed. I dare say this is a stronger line of demarcation between people than their skin colour.
One can get sucked into the wider mainstream net of racial or gender conflicts but to be honest, it's a bit of a waste of energy in my opinion. Those things will happen regardless of whether you involve yourself in them or not.
I think when the rubber hits the road like in this situation we're facing globally now, what really matters is what is in people rather than what identifies them. I tell you what, I have 100% respect for a migrant brown / black taxi driver who immediately see's through the vax bs than a well educated white guy who doesn't or likewise a white blue collar worker who's able to see right through this thing than a well to do successful black celebrity or business person. In short people who can see through the lies and illusions regardless of their race, gender or whatever are the people who really matter to be honest. This time we're living in is truly bringing that to light.
Also @PaleFace is not conducting himself in accordance with the principles of this forum I don't think. External consideration I believe still remains a pillar. If he's unaware of such concepts I believe he should start familiarising himself with it and the other things expected from people who try to rise up above A influences and the general law.
One can get sucked into the wider mainstream net of racial or gender conflicts but to be honest, it's a bit of a waste of energy in my opinion. Those things will happen regardless of whether you involve yourself in them or not.
I think when the rubber hits the road like in this situation we're facing globally now, what really matters is what is in people rather than what identifies them. I tell you what, I have 100% respect for a migrant brown / black taxi driver who immediately see's through the vax bs than a well educated white guy who doesn't or likewise a white blue collar worker who's able to see right through this thing than a well to do successful black celebrity or business person. In short people who can see through the lies and illusions regardless of their race, gender or whatever are the people who really matter to be honest. This time we're living in is truly bringing that to light.
Also @PaleFace is not conducting himself in accordance with the principles of this forum I don't think. External consideration I believe still remains a pillar. If he's unaware of such concepts I believe he should start familiarising himself with it and the other things expected from people who try to rise up above A influences and the general law.
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Resistense
Guest
Your parameters are defunct. Stop proselytizing or meet me outside.
