Imminent Alien Disclosure?

@Alejo I am amazed. Very well said. If I can add my two cents I would say that imagination maybe a part of us that is far more real in 4th density than it is here so be very careful where your imagination goes!
If we are to think that with the wave our imaginations may have a bigger role (personally I think this may be the case hence the great blinders on 4d STS, and 3rd STS with regards to wishful thinking) it is best to have one’s imagination rooted to reality.

Trying to expand a consciousness that doesn’t understand reality very well, I’m talking about all of us here on earth, isn’t terribly helpful as we are all filled with self serving aspects of our imaginations that will gladly amplify themselves given the chance.
 
Concerning the mentioned DMT or similar effects being reported, how could one distinguish between a state that really allows perceiving 4D or any other reality, or a state where a manipulation of perception directed by some invisible entities occurs, which is subjectively interpreted as exploring other realms by one's own volition? My guess would be that the second scenario is more likely in a majority of cases and that a lot of wishful thinking goes into these "doors of perception" experiences. It's no wonder these practices are encouraged by the PTB.
 
obacco has been used historically for divination purposes as hard as that may be to believe although this seems to be a go to with members here. I’m not trying to claim we are using tobacco for divination but it may help in a minor way in everyday life.
The tobacco you are referring to, I think, is a much more potent tobacco that was the original plant used by the Native Americans. The tobacco we smoke now is much milder. It does help one be able to think more clearly and critically. That's why it is not promoted by those in control and why other drugs are.
 
I noticed this video just came out today from Uberboyo on this whole ufo phenomenon and “disclosure.” I listen to him a little bit here and there as he is quite smart and has a good delivery that appeals to my personal preferences. I saw the title and decided to click and have a listen to see if he was anywhere near the mark. The short answer is Yes he is. The title is a bit misleading as he barely talks about what Carl Jung thinks about aliens, as if I cared anyway, and instead mostly talks about Aliens as extra dimension rather than extraterrestrial and speaks of the ramifications of that concept.

Obviously there are things I disagree with but I thought that this was accurate enough to share since he has a decent sized YouTube channel and it’s always worth looking at what other people are saying on important issues.

It is an hour long and obviously everything presented is common knowledge in these parts so I’m not putting this up to try to provide anyone with some mind blowing new info. I will also put in a language warning as his style contains a bit of coarse language.

Thank you for sharing this. I found Uberboyo's YT channel a few weeks back, and he's an engaging speaker and clearly he takes his work seriously. Am now listening to his talk on Schopenhauer, should be an interesting expose.

I like how he puts the grays in their place nicely in the vid. The little dorks who muck with our minds on the sly, in the dead of night while we carelessly slumber. Someday there'll be a reckoning when 4d reality hits hone with the wave. Man I want to be a fly on the wall for that, the levelling of the playing field. As for DMT, well I haven't taken it so can't really offer an opinion. I did take mescaline in sub lingual form back on new year's eve 1999. It was an interesting experience. I didn't see anything weird like the grays but I do recall chuckling to myself a lot. Everything I thought just seemed clever and self-evident. Ha! I knew next to nothing. I don't regret trying it out (I'm a pretty curiosity driven person, that brought me to Sott in 2004), but I wouldn't recommend it to others. I think the C's once said that just smoking tobacco raises one's psychic awareness, so that's good enough for me.
 
I don't regret trying it out (I'm a pretty curiosity driven person, that brought me to Sott in 2004), but I wouldn't recommend it to others.

I just want to stress that I unreservedly think that psychedelic substances should be treated with extreme caution. Think of talented people like Peter Green, Brian Wilson and Syd Barrett, who peered too far into the abyss and never really made it back. It's really not worth taking that risk is it?

The very fact that these things like DMT and Ayahuasca are being touted in new age circles, for aspiring psychonauts. While tobacco is being forever demonised. Smells fishy to me. I think people like Terence McKenna, Timothy Leary and Graham Hancock are a bit too sure of themselves, and didn't really know what they were dabbling with. Some doors perhaps shouldn't be opened methinks...
 
I just thought I'd get back on point and archive the Coulthart interview with Grusch from 2 weeks back that kicked up this little frisson of late. We are living in potentially extraordinary times. Will this be a further drip drip of pertinent info (Grusch mentions extra spacial dimensional theory in the interview) or will some marker event make a massive impact? To be quite honest I will be watching for further developments with a keener interest after watching this vid. Well worth a watch.

 
The tobacco you are referring to, I think, is a much more potent tobacco that was the original plant used by the Native Americans. The tobacco we smoke now is much milder. It does help one be able to think more clearly and critically. That's why it is not promoted by those in control and why other drugs are.

Yeah, the old "pipe of peace" was most likely a much stronger strain. Those guys were getting stoked. As for smoking tobacco, I'm fully sold on that. Smoke 20 a day, and my lungs are fine. Goes beautifully well with a strong black coffee. definitely feel sharper afterwards. Just works like a charm. The PTB are planning a devilish move, seeking to make tobacco illegal while promoting the more dangerous alternatives. Surely a black market will develop from there, the market system always finds a way. Can't have an intelligent, sharp focused populace can we? All I know is that prohibition always fails.:cool2:

I still recall reading an article on smoking on sott by Laura back in 2004, it was mind-blowing reading objective info on the subject. The simple fact that Adolf Hitler hated smoking seals the deal for me. Why risk your sanity on psychedelics when you can be a sharper, more focused version of yourself with a simple ciggie?The PTB hate us smoking, that much is clear.
 
Around and around we go where stops nobody Knows!


To my mind, there are five main possible explanations, in descending order of probability.

1. The US establishment – Pentagon to press – is engaged in a complex cross-party conspiracy of psyops to unnerve and mystify America’s adversaries, especially the Chinese. Perhaps they want to convince them America possesses advanced alien technology, and America has been reverse engineering it for decades.

2. The US establishment has some incredible new military tech – something truly astonishing, like anti-gravity aircraft – and they’ve had it for ages, and they want to hide it from everyone: Americans as much as the Chinese.

3. The US establishment has gone collectively mad, or is suffering some mass hallucination, stemming from a few credulous individuals (a process known in psychology as ‘contagion’).

4. The US military/elite sincerely believes we are being visited by non human intelligence – but they’re wrong.

5. The US military/elite sincerely believes we are being visited by non human intelligence – and they are right.

Which is it? As I see it, they all come with major problems and caveats. Just think about any of them and you’ll understand why. Nonetheless, this entire peculiar phenomenon needs unravelling. And if the final answer turns out to be option five – and however distressingly outlandish, it cannot be entirely dismissed – well then we might need to do some praying, as well.
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@Alejo I am amazed. Very well said. If I can add my two cents I would say that imagination maybe a part of us that is far more real in 4th density than it is here so be very careful where your imagination goes!
If we are to think that with the wave our imaginations may have a bigger role (personally I think this may be the case hence the great blinders on 4d STS, and 3rd STS with regards to wishful thinking) it is best to have one’s imagination rooted to reality.

Trying to expand a consciousness that doesn’t understand reality very well, I’m talking about all of us here on earth, isn’t terribly helpful as we are all filled with self serving aspects of our imaginations that will gladly amplify themselves given the chance.
Indeed, I think the C's mentioned something along the lines when discussing the variability of physicality, and how wishful thinking can become your reality in 4D, so there's that.

And think of where imagination that is rooted on lies would land you, or what most of humanity focuses their ideals on today, just look at social networks. Or even the histories we all carry and traumas and what not, imagine if our irrational fears, which are imaginary, suddenly became a "reality".
 
Get a load with the front of this discussion.

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I just want to stress that I unreservedly think that psychedelic substances should be treated with extreme caution. Think of talented people like Peter Green, Brian Wilson and Syd Barrett, who peered too far into the abyss and never really made it back. It's really not worth taking that risk is it?

The very fact that these things like DMT and Ayahuasca are being touted in new age circles, for aspiring psychonauts. While tobacco is being forever demonised. Smells fishy to me. I think people like Terence McKenna, Timothy Leary and Graham Hancock are a bit too sure of themselves, and didn't really know what they were dabbling with. Some doors perhaps shouldn't be opened methinks...

Yeah, I have a number of anecdotes on this topic that leads me to fully agree. A former friend of mine went to the Gabor Mate-recommened Shipibo ayahuasca centre in Peru. He told me that he experienced Grays performing brain surgery on him during the retreat. The guy was definitely not healed.

A different former friend of mine experienced two lizard beings taking him up a staircase during a Native American Church peyote ceremony. Also not healed.

I also heard of a medium who was called to check out a small land co-op near where I used to live. The couple who called the medium had concerns about their young child who was experiencing bizarre and hard-to-treat symptoms. When the medium arrived, she went let them know that some very bad juju was being generated on a neighbouring property. It was the host site of a psychedelic plant cult. The medium told the couple that their neighbour (another former friend of mine) was in the business of imprisoning souls. He was fully convinced he was in the business of healing.

Then there's the one about a music festival - called, I kid you not, 'Astral Harvest' - where a guy was found in his tent, having slit his own throat. Music festivals have transformed into a sort of psychedelic pilgrimage for many urban office-dwellers. When I warned a different former friend of mine about malign influence, I was told I was 'casting a dark spell' on the grand adventure.

In the book DMT : the Spirit Molecule, there are case-study accounts of reptoid rape, invasive worker drones in the shape of cactus men, people feeling themselves being reprogrammed or rewired by machines, and different types of insect, mantids or spiders.
When I was first going under there were these insect creatures all around me. They were clearly trying to break through. I was fighting letting go of who I am or was. The more I fought, the more demonic they became, probing into my psyche and being. I finally started letting go of parts of myself, as I could no longer keep so much of me together. As I did, I still clung to the idea that all was God, and that God was love, and I was giving myself up to God and Gods love because I was certain I was dying. As I accepted my death and dissolution into Gods love, the insectoids began to feed on my heart, devouring the feelings of love and surrender.

Anyways, chilling stuff.

Is any or all of this the product of one's imagination? Or is it a somewhat accurate perception resulting from heightened awareness?

I'd guess it's probably something we won't ever really comprehend in 3D, kinda like dreams. It's interesting to note that Desouza wrote that the alien invasion will come upon humanity in an induced dream-like state.

Whatever is going on, there's enough data to say that there is a link between psychedelic use and negative hyperdimensional influence, and it's definitely not something to be messing around with.
 
A former friend of mine went to the Gabor Mate-recommened Shipibo ayahuasca centre in Peru. He told me that he experienced Grays performing brain surgery on him during the retreat. The guy was definitely not healed.

A different former friend of mine experienced two lizard beings taking him up a staircase during a Native American Church peyote ceremony. Also not healed.

That's astonishing. I suppose the question then is how well informed are these people about 4d and the paranormal? They may be bringing their own expectations and biases into the experience. We need to, as a society of people cognisant of 4d, to always never underestimate just how dangerous the 4d phenomenon is. People looking to just get high and have a peak experience are messing with some very malign forces. I don't fancy getting brain surgery from a freaking gray that's for sure!

Is any or all of this the product of one's imagination? Or is it a somewhat accurate perception resulting from heightened awareness?

I'd guess it's probably something we won't ever really comprehend in 3D, kinda like dreams. It's interesting to note that Desouza wrote that the alien invasion will come upon humanity in an induced dream-like state.

Whatever is going on, there's enough data to say that there is a link between psychedelic use and negative hyperdimensional influence, and it's definitely not something to be messing around with.

That's why I'm wondering how much is in them already in terms of knowledge/being. When I took mescaline back in 1999 I was working in a hotel kitchen. It was new year's eve, and I was just mopping the floor after the restaurant closed. My girlfriend then emerged at the back door and slyly handed me the mescaline tab, she told me I'd be fine for an hour, so I took it and continued my work. I was tired and wanted to get up the lane to my cottage where my co workers were having a typical party.

One chef, a mate of mine, was still cleaning up with me in the kitchen. Within about 20 minutes I was transfixed looking at the water on the tiled floor. The water was moving like mercury, squiggling about in strange shapes! Everything seemed to be alive. The chef was watching me, and he took the mop off me, saying "It's time for you to go home mate, I'll finish the floor". I thanked him later. Anyway, I went back to my cottage and it was full of the hotel staff, drinking away. I slyly made my moves and went directly up to my bedroom, avoiding the party. I put some background music on and sat on my bed for about 5 hours, thinking and laughing. I saw nothing strange other than what I saw in the hotel kitchen. I thank my lucky stars I had a mild experience. I'd never do something like that now.

I completely agree, that creating an open psychic state in a person is gonna be like inviting something else to step in. Strong psychological fortitude is called for when dealing with 4d STS even when sober.
 
When I took mescaline back in 1999 I was working in a hotel kitchen. It was new year's eve, and I was just mopping the floor after the restaurant closed. My girlfriend then emerged at the back door and slyly handed me the mescaline tab, she told me I'd be fine for an hour, so I took it and continued my work. I was tired and wanted to get up the lane to my cottage where my co workers were having a typical party.

One chef, a mate of mine, was still cleaning up with me in the kitchen. Within about 20 minutes I was transfixed looking at the water on the tiled floor. The water was moving like mercury, squiggling about in strange shapes! Everything seemed to be alive. The chef was watching me, and he took the mop off me, saying "It's time for you to go home mate, I'll finish the floor". I thanked him later. Anyway, I went back to my cottage and it was full of the hotel staff, drinking away. I slyly made my moves and went directly up to my bedroom, avoiding the party. I put some background music on and sat on my bed for about 5 hours, thinking and laughing. I saw nothing strange other than what I saw in the hotel kitchen. I thank my lucky stars I had a mild experience. I'd never do something like that now.

This leads me to ponder the connection between this event and my seeing a UFO in 2004 and my descent into schizophrenia. In those 5 years so much changed within me, I became far more driven to learn all I could about this world we share. Was my perception changed as a result of taking a psychedelic? I've never been able to satisfactorily answer that question. But there are a few clues. In 2005 I was living back home in Wales following my breakdown the year before. My extended family went on a trip to an amusement park with the young-uns one summer evening. The weather was terrible, heavy rain and thunder. I made my excuses and didn't go with them. I chose to stay at home and avoid the chaos of all that mayhem, never liked amusement parks. But I had a very strange and some would say amusing evening of my own, just staying at home pottering about the house.

Heavy thunder and drenching rain ensued. Then things got a bit trippy. I was just reading in my room when I noticed a looming dark presence in the corner of my room. No hearing voices as far as I can recall, but my perception suddenly changed. I stopped reading because the thunder was putting me off, but then my attention was focused on my hands as I put down the book. It was insane, my fingers were giving off this intense light and glow; I recall wiggling my fingers and seeing this glow stretching off from them, they were about double in length with the glow. For some reason I stayed calm and just went with the flow of things. Nothing else of note happened, but I recall those long glowing fingers, so I just entertained myself during a thunderstorm by marvelling at these huge spindly glows on my hands, I think it lasted about an hour. Never happened before, or since. Very weird but no harm done. And I was completely stone cold sober too.

All I'm musing on is whether my 2005 experience was directly related to 1999 and 2004 (this was when I saw a UFO) events? That's another thing to plonk on my questions for 5d when I die. It probably was but I'd just like the closure of a confirmation. We live in a strange cosmic jungle for sure, and it really helps to have an intuitive mind to deal with such things.
 
This leads me to ponder the connection between this event and my seeing a UFO in 2004 and my descent into schizophrenia. In those 5 years so much changed within me, I became far more driven to learn all I could about this world we share. Was my perception changed as a result of taking a psychedelic? I've never been able to satisfactorily answer that question. But there are a few clues. In 2005 I was living back home in Wales following my breakdown the year before. My extended family went on a trip to an amusement park with the young-uns one summer evening. The weather was terrible, heavy rain and thunder. I made my excuses and didn't go with them. I chose to stay at home and avoid the chaos of all that mayhem, never liked amusement parks. But I had a very strange and some would say amusing evening of my own, just staying at home pottering about the house.

Heavy thunder and drenching rain ensued. Then things got a bit trippy. I was just reading in my room when I noticed a looming dark presence in the corner of my room. No hearing voices as far as I can recall, but my perception suddenly changed. I stopped reading because the thunder was putting me off, but then my attention was focused on my hands as I put down the book. It was insane, my fingers were giving off this intense light and glow; I recall wiggling my fingers and seeing this glow stretching off from them, they were about double in length with the glow. For some reason I stayed calm and just went with the flow of things. Nothing else of note happened, but I recall those long glowing fingers, so I just entertained myself during a thunderstorm by marvelling at these huge spindly glows on my hands, I think it lasted about an hour. Never happened before, or since. Very weird but no harm done. And I was completely stone cold sober too.

All I'm musing on is whether my 2005 experience was directly related to 1999 and 2004 (this was when I saw a UFO) events? That's another thing to plonk on my questions for 5d when I die. It probably was but I'd just like the closure of a confirmation. We live in a strange cosmic jungle for sure, and it really helps to have an intuitive mind to deal with such things.

The C's have suggested the taking peyote results in hallucinations. or it could be that your mind was re-patterned... something that is an ongoing process.

Q: (L) Carlos Casteneda writes about the peyote beings called "Mescalitos." This being supposedly is part of the peyote plant, a sort of being from the plant. Is this true?

A: No.

Q: (L) What beings does one encounter when one eats a bunch of peyote?

A: Hallucination.

Q: (L) Why are these hallucinations so consistent?

A: Because those that do have that expectation. If you ate enough peyote you would encounter Santa Claus if that was your expectation. (Much laughter)

So when you took the mescaline, it could be that you were just hallucinating?

But how do we square the hallucination claim with all of the data of hyperdimensional influence linked to psychedelic use? Surely all those people weren't just hallucinating all that stuff? Or were they? What do the C's mean by hallucination in precise terms?

There's a book called Pyschedelic Information Theory: Shamanism in the Age of Reason by James L. Kent. In it, he describes what he calls the information process of psychedelics. His idea is that there's an objective cellular process that produces a psychological state which is subject to interpretation.
The psychedelic information process is an observable phenomenon that has influenced cultures throughout history and is now affecting modern global culture. At the center of this information process is the pharmacological action of a small number of molecules hitting a tiny subset of neural receptors for a relatively short duration of time. The ongoing information process generated by this small pharmacological interaction goes far beyond the normal range of what we expect drugs to accomplish.

Because psychedelics defy pharmacological rationality they are misunderstood, feared, and revered as spiritual in origin. This misunderstanding drives the psychedelic information process into divergent streams of theory and mythology, creating the tapestry of psychedelic propaganda, confusion, and disinformation we have today.

The divergence of psychedelic information and existence of competing schools of psychedelic ideology demonstrates there is no one objective and true psychedelic ideology; any ideology can be influenced and amplified by the psychedelic information process. The psychedelic information process is neutral and ideology non-specific; it applies equally to learning, creativity, mind-control, brainwashing, mysticism, sorcery, and healing. The psychedelic process and psychedelic archetypes can be co-opted by any religious or political group for personal power gain, and psychedelics can be used as weapons as easily as they can be used as medicines or sacraments. The only constant between all divergent schools of psychedelic ideology is the physical process that stimulates the flow of novel information through human neural networks. The study of this information process is known as Psychedelic Information Theory.

He's also coming from the school that claims that psychedelics generate information. This seems to corroborate what the C's have said - that all peyote or other psychedelics do is generate new neural info that leads to hallucinations. But then there's stuff like this testimony that sounds like peyote usage can result in seeing hyperdimensional realities:
I walked around the property until the sun started to come up. By this time the peyote really was starting to wind down, but as soon as I saw the sun reflecting on the clouds things got intense again. The clouds began to look like space ships, and there was a flurry of activity as some kind of insects or very tiny birds moved in flocks from one ship to another. I thought they were actual birds at first but when I looked at them they disappeared. Suddenly I realized that multi-dimensional beings who live right next to us are tracking our eye movements in real time. They carry on some kind of nefarious plan in plain sight, then when we look at them, they stop moving before our eyes can finish the saccade to where they are, and that's why we never see them. Peyote somehow clogs up their eye tracking technology and introduces a delay in transmission, so they don't know right away that we're looking at them and that's how I could see them in their cloud ships now, and that's why "they" are trying to make peyote extinct. I actually considered this a realistic hypothesis for about thirty seconds (later I realized it's pretty wacky).

Is this a hallucination? Kent would probably say yes, but then again, I don't think he has a grasp of alternate dimensions, let alone levels of density. He's fairly materialist.
Psychedelic Information Theory posits that the uncoupled sub-functions of modular consciousness, acting either alone or in novel peer groupings, are responsible for the subjective altered states classified as hallucinogenic, dissociative, and psychedelic. All hallucinogens must first destabilize top-down coherence of consciousness to produce novel states of spontaneous organization between the modular sub-units; this is how all hallucination begins. Dissociatives disrupt top-down coherence by blocking the excitatory pathways that allow the modular units to communicate. Psychedelics have a more subtle effect on top-down coherence; they periodically interrupt or excite the modulatory frequency of multisensory frame binding, causing perception to destabilize into energetic nonlinear configurations. By destabilizing the top-down control of consciousness, psychedelics allow the modular sub-functions to wander and/or interact with coupled peers in dedicated subsystems; similar to the dedicated circuit created between perception and memory when dreaming.

Destabilizing or splintering consciousness into novel configurations is the essence of psychedelic exploration. When consciousness bifurcates or splits, subjective perception instantly becomes more chaotic and complex. Splintered consciousness may actually appear to be in two places at once, stuck in a superposition between waking and dreaming, finding stability in two simultaneous perceptual states, also know as multi-stability a multi-stable state. Novel configurations of splintered or multi-stable consciousness can be described as nonlinear, complex, meta, transpersonal, depersonalized, faceted, holistic, higher-dimensional, expanded, mystical, subconscious, semi-consciousness, and so on. Splintering, re-configuring, and rebuilding the modular sub-units of identity are techniques that may be applied in brainwashing or metaprogramming, but also fall under the rubric of mysticism and shamanism.

I find his writing interesting, tho he's prone to making generalizations. As we've learned, the way in which one enters an altered state of consciousness, an the intent in doing so, seems to make all the difference. Wouldn't there be some real difference between some kinda wizened Taoist master and a young ayahausca tourist?

Anyways, this all leaves me with some questions. If there is such an objective process going on in the brain with psychedelic use, does it interfere with top-down coherence by 'splintering' in the way Kent describes?

If so, does the resulting state lead only to the creation of information, as in a hallucination? Or can it also lead to sometimes actually seeing reptoids and ships and whatnot?

Do 'aliens' also use a similar 'mind-splintering' process during abductions? Like with beamed frequencies and not ingested substances? Hence the similarity of certain drug trips and certain abductions in terms of images seen, behavioural change, etc.

At any rate, having a population with a large number of brains caught halfway between waking and dreaming (whether through psychedelics or otherwise) seems to be a crucial part of the priming process of accepting 'our new saviours'. So in that sense, I think Desouza was onto something.

From Ernest Gellner's Anthropology and Politics:

“The way in which you restrain people from doing a wide variety of things, not compatible with the social order of which they are members, is that you subject them to ritual. The process is simple: you make them dance around a totem pole until they are wild with excitement and become jellies in the hysteria of the collective frenzy; you enhance their emotional state by any device, by all the locally available audio-visual aids, drugs, dance, music and so on; and once they are really high, you stamp upon their minds the type of concept or notion to which they subsequently become enslaved. Next morning, the savage wakes up with a bad hangover and a deeply internalized concept. The idea that the central feature of religion is ritual, and the central role of ritual is the endowment of individuals with compulsive concepts which simultaneously define their social and natural world and restrain and control their perception and comportment, in mutually reinforcing ways. These deeply internalized notions henceforth oblige them to act within the range of prescribed limits. Each concept has a normative binding content, as well as a kind of organizational descriptive content. The conceptual system maps out the social order and required conduct, and inhibits inclinations to thought or conduct that would transgress its limits.”

Just replace 'dancing around the totem pole' with 'scrolling on the iPhone', and 'savage' with 'average citizen', throw in some catastrophes to soften up the population, and you have the recipe for a shiny new apocalyptic religion.
 
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