sbeaudry
Jedi Council Member
The troll/twitter responses are so sickening. I liked the video but the responses... oy
2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!
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They are irrelevant. I only care about which side the police and military are gonna take. Most of them will stand with their president. I'm sure of it. And the majority of the American public will support it.
I only just noticed. Trump isn't wearing a mask! Everybody is, but he isn't. How cool is that. To hell with their COVID World Order.
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"If today we do not obtain justice from our elected officials, if the United States of America does not know how to choose between defending the law and legitimizing a coup against its citizens, our nation will abdicate its duties toward Americans and its international role."
"A betrayal will take place and history will ask for an account of it from all of us and from our institutions and our leaders."
"Pray now that when the light shines in the coming days, it reveals the truth along with a new era of American patriotism."
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"If today we do not obtain justice from our elected officials, if the United States of America does not know how to choose between defending the law and legitimizing a coup against its citizens, our nation will abdicate its duties toward Americans and its international role."
"A betrayal will take place and history will ask for an account of it from all of us and from our institutions and our leaders."
"Pray now that when the light shines in the coming days, it reveals the truth along with a new era of American patriotism."
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sbeaudry
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Folks nowadays seem to like to say that the silence is deafening. Nonsense. The noise is deafening. And the amount of noise in most of these twitter feeds/responses hides the signal, but where there's smoke... I tend to think DT has a Yuge following in the populace and military but it's very hard to say how people react when leaned on. And military is a very organized, do as I say, follow orders, structure, so I think it will take more than average support to break rank. Maybe a few rogue generals and Texas could do it.
If it's questionable, then we may see a dramatic shift in outright military support for DT, and he is, although a civilian, the Commander in Chief. To be honest though, I'm having a very hard time following the news lately. The noise is deafening.
Oh my, Alex Jones finally has his ''1776 will comence again'' moment during a massive pro Trump rally. in DC. Only this time it's for real. General Flynn also spoke. The message is clear: Biden will be never be our president and he will be removed one way or another.
Watch the videos yourself by following the link:
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Biden ‘will be removed one way or another’: Alex Jones, Michael Flynn speak at pro-Trump march as rival protesters clash (VIDEOS)
Police detained multiple people at the pro-Trump march in DC as clashes with counter-protesters ensued, while the election was being denounced by speakers like Alex Jones who claimed that Biden “will never” be recognized as POTUS.
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Here is more of the story behind the recent blow of SCOTUS not taking the Texas case. Everyone got very excited thinking this was IT! Then Bam, everyone gets knocked over and now its game over, SCOTUS is corrupt. They may be corrupt but thats not totally clear yet because there are more cases going to them. Dr. Turley has been doing a good job of explaining the technicalities as they arise in this complicated scenario and here he lays out all thats in play at the moment.. People where only following the headlines so became disillusioned when things didn't go as hoped as high expectations where dashed, he explaines.
The Trump team knew the lack of standing was a weakness in the case. Now suits are being filed in these states as a remedy for that.
He thinks CJ Roberts is throwing up a wall around the Supreme Court and doesn't want them to get involved (for some reason)... so that's interesting. Roberts is strongly suspected of being compromised so maybe we'll see exposure coming out about that. The whole judicial process is still in play so its still a wait and see.
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About #1, my understanding, from Turley, is if Pence doesn't accept the electors votes on Jan. 6, then it goes to the states and they each get one vote. Its 30 to 20 in favor of the Republicans and he thinks this is the Trump plan to win, however, from what we're seeing, there may be to much corruption for that. Then its on to something else.
The Trump team knew the lack of standing was a weakness in the case. Now suits are being filed in these states as a remedy for that.
He thinks CJ Roberts is throwing up a wall around the Supreme Court and doesn't want them to get involved (for some reason)... so that's interesting. Roberts is strongly suspected of being compromised so maybe we'll see exposure coming out about that. The whole judicial process is still in play so its still a wait and see.
start at 3:48
About #1, my understanding, from Turley, is if Pence doesn't accept the electors votes on Jan. 6, then it goes to the states and they each get one vote. Its 30 to 20 in favor of the Republicans and he thinks this is the Trump plan to win, however, from what we're seeing, there may be to much corruption for that. Then its on to something else.
Donald Trump does not what to cause a civil war. He'll try every peaceful measures necessary to corrected the fraud.
Democrats know that if SCOTUS gets involved they'll lose so thanks to Roberts they are keeping the fraud cases only in the lower courts which will reject them.
Trump has intensified the lights of truth and it is exposing every scumbag and the corruption of institution of this nation. Once the Wave blows away the lefts cultural advantage back to a level playing field then the game will be more enjoyable for those of us how sees the truth.
Democrats know that if SCOTUS gets involved they'll lose so thanks to Roberts they are keeping the fraud cases only in the lower courts which will reject them.
Trump has intensified the lights of truth and it is exposing every scumbag and the corruption of institution of this nation. Once the Wave blows away the lefts cultural advantage back to a level playing field then the game will be more enjoyable for those of us how sees the truth.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
@bjorn I mean.. we have to get back down to the nuts and bolts of how things actually are.
The average soldier is just a normal dude in uniform who's gone through some training and been made part of a wider machine. He's not some righteous dude who's made of like outstanding character. No need to elevate them to some thing they aren't.
The military is all about the chain of command. The average soldier won't be defying any Generals... The average soldier probably doesn't even have direct access to any General given their place in the chain of command.
Chances are the boots on the ground WON'T revolt against the Generals. If we're talking probability and likelihood, these are the chances!
Well, I agree with you about some of the things, however you never really know. It is not impossible that there would be certain kind of martial law and later on generals together with soldiers take a side with Trump. But in order to take more control over the lives of the people.
1.With martial law, army would maybe get more power and they could impose their own dictatorship. If life returns to normal after the martial law and if soldiers get debilitated (Trump was pushing the vaccines as I remember), with some dangerous vaccine, than maybe there would not be much use of them, later on. And military may be pretty much okay with Trump as well as with Biden. In my opinion it is very possible that the deepest state control military, Biden and his clowns are probably just actors on the stage without much power. Even if Biden falls, it can still be good for the deepest state.
2. Biden is president. Than they can maybe proceed with their plans without many problems. I am really not sure if Americans would rise up with weapons to defend Donald Trump.
Also, I am not sure about chances for soldiers to rebel against generals even if they are not debilitated with vaccines.
Trump is still the commander in chief. If they have to make choose. I think that they will side with their families. And most military families support Trump. That's the only righteous choose they have to make.
There will always be people who will say that nothing ever matters. If we all listen to them nothing surely ever will. You make your choose, I make mine.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
@bjorn I'd just like to offer some words of advice, given that you've offered me several during the year.
I note you have this streak in you about right or wrong... I don't know if I'd call it a righteous streak but I note it's deeply embedded.
I note that you sometimes fall into the trap of thinking you can "will" something into existence just because you think it and feel justified in thinking it. You usually add some sort of moral or ethical element into this act of "willing".
I'm not saying you're wrong in what you think, I just want to say that the world doesn't operate through the act of willing things into reality. If reality is going in the opposite direction to where you're expecting it to go, doubling down on this "willing" tendency won't make it more likely for it to change course.
I'm not sure but I don't know if you think that by not "willing" you'll be helpless and so to not be helpless, you have to "will" even more strongly? I think there's a huge risk of falling into wishful thinking when we think we can change the course of things by demanding things go how we want them to. I think a lot of Trump supporters are potentially ripe for this right now, where they could potentially get manipulated and used.
I'm not sure but I'd just like to let you know I've observed this. Similar to what you've advised me, I think there might be something to be said about taking the observer position in a sort of non-attachment, non-anticipatory manner especially in things that are way outside our control or influence. FWIW.
I note you have this streak in you about right or wrong... I don't know if I'd call it a righteous streak but I note it's deeply embedded.
I note that you sometimes fall into the trap of thinking you can "will" something into existence just because you think it and feel justified in thinking it. You usually add some sort of moral or ethical element into this act of "willing".
I'm not saying you're wrong in what you think, I just want to say that the world doesn't operate through the act of willing things into reality. If reality is going in the opposite direction to where you're expecting it to go, doubling down on this "willing" tendency won't make it more likely for it to change course.
I'm not sure but I don't know if you think that by not "willing" you'll be helpless and so to not be helpless, you have to "will" even more strongly? I think there's a huge risk of falling into wishful thinking when we think we can change the course of things by demanding things go how we want them to. I think a lot of Trump supporters are potentially ripe for this right now, where they could potentially get manipulated and used.
I'm not sure but I'd just like to let you know I've observed this. Similar to what you've advised me, I think there might be something to be said about taking the observer position in a sort of non-attachment, non-anticipatory manner especially in things that are way outside our control or influence. FWIW.
sbeaudry
Jedi Council Member
Carried on SOTT. Very interesting
Trump Approves Filing Retooled Texas-Style Election Challenges: Giuliani
Trump Approves Filing Retooled Texas-Style Election Challenges: Giuliani
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It has been a long time since I have been in the military and also interacted with anyone in the military, but this is the oath of commissioned officers (maybe some variance for each service).
This oath is one of the first things I thought about when it first started to come out about all the election fraud, etc.
I've been told, which I disagree with, that even when you resign your commission that you are still bound by this. I have no data or percentage of how many officers take their oath seriously, but I did and I think the majority of officers I served with did when I was active, and the oath is something that every commanding officer I was involved with talked about and emphasized repeatedly.
So it could get pretty wild, since I’d imagine most of the military officers out there are looking at what is going on and talking about it. If they see it as “defending the Constitution” against a domestic enemy, a lot could very well align with Trump. Even if this specific situation or something similar may not have been used as a case study, these types of ethical or ambiguous situations and scenarios are talked about and discussed. And when in doubt you would fall back on your oath.
If I was still under this oath in this specific situation with the election and my commanding officer or some other senior officer, such as a General, gave orders which went against the oath, then it would be seen that you are obligated to disobey them and I would be seriously considering such action if push came to shove. Not an easy thing to do, but we might see such things take place depending on how things play out.
This oath is one of the first things I thought about when it first started to come out about all the election fraud, etc.
I've been told, which I disagree with, that even when you resign your commission that you are still bound by this. I have no data or percentage of how many officers take their oath seriously, but I did and I think the majority of officers I served with did when I was active, and the oath is something that every commanding officer I was involved with talked about and emphasized repeatedly.
So it could get pretty wild, since I’d imagine most of the military officers out there are looking at what is going on and talking about it. If they see it as “defending the Constitution” against a domestic enemy, a lot could very well align with Trump. Even if this specific situation or something similar may not have been used as a case study, these types of ethical or ambiguous situations and scenarios are talked about and discussed. And when in doubt you would fall back on your oath.
If I was still under this oath in this specific situation with the election and my commanding officer or some other senior officer, such as a General, gave orders which went against the oath, then it would be seen that you are obligated to disobey them and I would be seriously considering such action if push came to shove. Not an easy thing to do, but we might see such things take place depending on how things play out.
Back than I said that you shouldn't fall into nihilism and pessimism. Maybe I'm the opposite. To hopeful. Which also has blind spots.
As for this situation. Maybe you are right, but as for now I see it differently. I'll keep in mind the things you said.
I think there might be a chance to change things for the better. But for that people at least have to try.
We all have to stay in lock-down for many more months to come, years and who knows even indefinitely. Sick of the isolation and sick of the empty future ahead. I'm totally done with it all. It’s gives nothing to hope for. So yes I'm frustated. 2021 better be different. One of the reasons why I don't like the attitude that nothing will ever change.
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