2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

Ocean said:
They are officially a Communist Party
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Correct, and they want that distinction, regardless of the extreme distortion that now exists. The term has effectively been redefined. I was "tested" on this and other things during a kind of orientation at a job once, years ago, and I answered truthfully and accurately about what I had really learned, but my answers were considered wrong. I understand why - because the truth was not the point, and was not welcome or politically correct in the business context.

I've known members of the party, and saw nothing overtly special or different about them. They were presumably attracted to the flowery and morally high propaganda, or saw it as a way to advance themselves, or were recommended to do it by someone. They joined up, and they take the training. Kind of like anyone else who would officially join a political party. I know actual US Democratic Party members, too, and it just locks them into a feed from certain thought leaders, to which they kind of get addicted. In light of this, it's head-spinning to me that anyone would consider a group like ours to be especially cultish.

This viral #WalkAway vid may have been posted here before. I found it fascinating to hear someone who effectively self-deprogrammed. After a few minutes, her account became gripping.

 
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Heather said:
I'm adding these tweets, again, as something to further look into, debate, or find common ground with. Given her background in finance she's coming at this from that perspective. And she's reacting against what Flynn's doing, and "Q Ops."


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I'm adding these tweets as something to further look into, debate, or find common ground with.


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I respect Catherine Fitts' options but feel she's a bit jaded. Under most other presidents in the past I would be very weary of Martial Law but under Trump I have complete confidence. Not sure if that's misguided trust but nonetheless it's how I feel.
 
FlyingMystic said:
I respect Catherine Fitts' options but feel she's a bit jaded. Under most other presidents in the past I would be very weary of Martial Law but under Trump I have complete confidence. Not sure if that's misguided trust but nonetheless it's how I feel.
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I feel like we need more information though. We're seeing how unprepared Trump seemed to be when going into the election. He didn't even seem to be aware of Dominion software, which entirely surprised me.

We know he's up against it with a lot of Deep State players, and no doubt has some faction of the Deep State backing him as well. Learning more about why he would sign onto FASAB 56 -- something else Fitts talks about -- would be helpful as well. It's a measure that makes black ops even more invisible on the books, and allows the government even less accountability.

In any case, we KNOW we're not seeing the whole picture. That's the problem. And as Fitts points out, there could be serious danger in our going with our "feelings" on this without more information.
 
Heather said:
I feel like we need more information though. We're seeing how unprepared Trump seemed to be when going into the election. He didn't even seem to be aware of Dominion software, which entirely surprised me.

We know he's up against it with a lot of Deep State players, and no doubt has some faction of the Deep State backing him as well. Learning more about why he would sign onto FASAB 56 -- something else Fitts talks about -- would be helpful as well. It's a measure that makes black ops even more invisible on the books, and allows the government even less accountability.

In any case, we KNOW we're not seeing the whole picture. That's the problem. And as Fitts points out, there could be serious danger in our going with our "feelings" on this without more information.
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From what I've gathered, military intelligence and Trump were completely aware of and prepared for the Dominion voting machine's ability to influence this election. Just because they allowed it to happen doesn't mean they weren't prepared. It's better to catch a criminal in the act of committing a crime than it is to attempt to convince people the crime was going to be committed.

IMO, feelings can be informed by the amount of information we have on a curtain subject. With that being said, I am aware of how limited my knowledge is on the entirety of what's taking place in our government and the world stage. Although from that I've seen so far, it's obvious to me Trump is not deep state and has Americans best interests at heart.
 
luc said:
What a show indeed :) To add another perspective: Among New Age circles as well as in some Q-related groups I see the idea floating around that what we are witnessing is some kind of "supervised awakening", and perhaps there is some merit to this idea. If this is a school, and we are at the end of the cycle, it kind of makes sense for the universe to maximize "accelerated learning". So it makes various offers for people to "start seeing the light" in their own way. The Corona thing certainly was/is a great opportunity. The whole election spectacle is another. However, free will must be respected, so it must at least for now remain possible to exist in the MSM bubble reality; and it must still be an effort to free oneself from it. Also, there must be a variety of alternative views on offer to ease people into a new reality gradually. I heard one interview with a famous German singer who went anti-mainstream and religious (Xavier Naidoo) where he says that he expects God to reveal himself once people are ready, which they are not yet. It's a similar idea I guess to what the Cs said that there will be a level playing field and that they will be visible at some point. But if that happens, that also means that this "school class" is over, because people would be forced to accept higher realities, and they would be deprived of the opportunity to get there by their own efforts. It certainly seems like much about our reality is "up in the air", with many people trying to make new sense of it all in their own ways. But I also don't buy the notion that we are all going to be saved by some group of "white hats" or whatever. It all depends on our choices, of our inner transformation; and the future is open. And of course, it all has to do with higher realities.

The latest SCOTUS thing, as well as other verdicts I have seen from the highest courts in connection with the Corona "crisis", i.e. judges ruling however they like and abuse the law as a tool for justifying their nonsense, could be seen from that perspective of "learning" as well: the concept of "rule of law"/constitution is a useful idea in complex societies, and it's all we have left really to hope for here. But we also know that Love trumps Law, and that rules can never be the highest authority, only God. So maybe this is another opportunity for people to get a more subtle understanding of such things, and realize that at the end of the day, it's about inner transformation towards a communion with God, as Paul puts it. .
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Amen Brother. Well said.
 
FlyingMystic said:
From what I've gathered, military intelligence and Trump were completely aware of and prepared for the Dominion voting machine's ability to influence this election. Just because they allowed it to happen doesn't mean they weren't prepared. It's better to catch a criminal in the act of committing a crime than it is to attempt to convince people the crime was going to be committed.

IMO, feelings can be informed by the amount of information we have on a curtain subject. With that being said, I am aware of how limited my knowledge is on the entirety of what's taking place in our government and the world stage. Although from that I've seen so far, it's obvious to me Trump is not deep state and has Americans best interests at heart.
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Yes, I tend to feel that way about Trump as well. However, I did see close up -- and I'm talking about following very closely his tweets, and how he was responding to things unfolding, blow by blow -- that he did not seem to anticipate, or even know about Dominion software. You can look at my posts, and maybe find where this came up before. So, I'm not talking about articles written about this, or what people are saying, I'm talking about closely observing Trump.

Of course, I want to just "go with the flow" on this myself. Let him use the Insurrection Act, or Marshal Law. That's exactly how I "feel." So, I'm questioning putting my feelings ahead of needing more information. And, yes, time is of the essence too. Everything is unfolding rather quickly. I realize that.

But if the Deep State wants to strip us of our civil rights, as is Fitt's concern on this insurrectionist course of action, there's that to consider too. She seems to imply that Trump would not be able to prevent the Deep State from using such a move to their complete advantage.

Is this true?

We need more information.

As others have pointed to as well, Trump's legal team doesn't instill the best confidence given the enormity of the task. Not that they aren't acting in earnest. But it's another example of Trump seeming to lack the necessary resources. And does that uncomfortable fact automatically change with the implementation of the Insurrection Act? I don't have the answer. But it's worth asking the question I think.

The Republican Party is in flux right now given this movement that Trump ignited. Is it better to keep going with that, and think in terms of the next election in two years, while working with our state legislatures to make real legislative changes, and hold those in power accountable?

This would take more work, and a focus first on short-term strategy, and possibly Trump in 2024. But, even as I write these words, I'm feeling people are up for a more militarized solution instead, without maybe really thinking it through. It's what's in the air.

Of course, the best immediate solution would be for Trump to somehow, against all odds, succeed in these last legal efforts to overturn the election. It is Trump, after all. We have to at least keep the door open for the impossible to maybe happen (!)
 
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Heather said:
Yes, I tend to feel that way about Trump as well. However, I did see close up -- and I'm talking about following very closely his tweets, and how he was responding to things unfolding, blow by blow -- that he did not seem to anticipate, or even know about Dominion software. You can look at my posts, and maybe find where this came up before. So, I'm not talking about articles written about this, or what people are saying, I'm talking about closely observing Trump.

Of course, I want to just "go with the flow" on this myself. Let him use the Insurrection Act, or Marshal Law. That's exactly how I "feel." So, I'm questioning putting my feelings ahead of needing more information. And, yes, time is of the essence too. Everything is unfolding rather quickly. I realize that.

But if the Deep State wants to strip us of our civil rights, as is Fitt's concern on this insurrectionist course of action, there's that to consider too. She seems to imply that Trump would not be able to prevent the Deep State from using such a move to their complete advantage.

Is this true?

We need more information.

As others have pointed to as well, Trump's legal team doesn't instill the best confidence given the enormity of the task. Not that they aren't acting in earnest. But it's another example of Trump seeming to lack the necessary resources. And does that uncomfortable fact automatically change with the implementation of the Insurrection Act? I don't have the answer. But it's worth asking the question I think.

The Republican Party is in flux right now given this movement that Trump ignited. Is it better to keep going with that, and think in terms of the next election in two years, while working with our state legislatures to make real legislative changes, and hold those in power accountable?

This would take more work, and a focus first on short-term strategy, and possibly Trump in 2024. But, even as I write these words, I'm feeling people are up for a more militarized solution instead, without maybe really thinking it through. It's what's in the air.

Of course, the best immediate solution would be for Trump to somehow, against all odds, succeed in these last legal efforts to overturn the election. It is Trump, after all. We have to at least keep the door open for the impossible to maybe happen (!)
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Oh, one interesting little side note is that Trump recently retweeted a Catherine Austin Fitts tweet. Her tweet was just presenting an article that a lot of others were tweeting links to, so the subject matter isn't particularly relevant. (I think it had to do with the fraudulent election.) But what does seem relevant is that he chose to retweet HER. It could indicate that he is at least aware of her, and possibly the work she's doing with The Solari Report.
 
Ocean said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1337991464517849088

The leaked database files -
gitlab.com

shanghai-ccp-member-db / shanghai-ccp-member-db

上海市黃俄黨黨員信息集合 / Shanghai CCP member DB
gitlab.com gitlab.com
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Chinese Virus, Chinese Vaccine?: CCP Leak Confirms Pfizer, AstraZeneca Employed 123 Communist Party Members

nationalfile.com

Chinese Virus, Chinese Vaccine?: CCP Leak Confirms Pfizer, AstraZeneca Employed 123 Communist Party Members

Chinese Communist Party members have infiltrated both Pfizer and AstraZeneca, who are pioneering the COVID-19 vaccine effort.
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bjorn said:
Fight for communism? China isn't a traditional communist system anymore. The days of Mao and his little red book are long gone. France is propably more socialist than China is right now. They have fully embraced globalism and capitalism.

This article reads like a cold war B-movie

From the article:



And what if the initial leak came from British intelligence instead and not China. That's how the spy world operates.

Besides, the China events thread is better fitted for this discussion.
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Yeah, in the same way that the 'Russia collusion' BS was done for clear geopolitical reasons, this new China gambit is a similar level of horse hockey. I hope no one here gets sucked in by such transparent nonsense. Trump probably won't overturn the election, China had nothing to do with rigging it, and China isn't coming to "steal your [[insert the thing you cherish the most]]".
 
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I'm not sure but I don't know if you think that by not "willing" you'll be helpless and so to not be helpless, you have to "will" even more strongly? I think there's a huge risk of falling into wishful thinking when we think we can change the course of things by demanding things go how we want them to. I think a lot of Trump supporters are potentially ripe for this right now, where they could potentially get manipulated and used.
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As we see happening with the seamless transition from the 'Russian meddling' lie to the 'China meddling' lie.

Leaked files expose mass infiltration of UK firms by Chinese Communist Party including AstraZeneca, Rolls Royce, HSBC and Jaguar Land Rover
www.dailymail.co.uk

Files expose mass infiltration of UK firms by Chinese Communist Party

While there is no evidence that anyone on the party membership list has spied for China, and many sign up to boost their career prospects, experts say it defies credulity some are not involved in espionage.
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Loyal members of Chinese Communist Party are working in British consulates, universities and for some of the UK's leading companies, The Mail on Sunday can reveal

Leaked database of 1.95m registered party members reveals how Beijing's malign influence now stretches into almost every corner of British life, including defence firms, banks and pharmaceutical giants

Some members, who swear oath to 'guard Party secrets, be loyal to the Party, work hard, fight for communism throughout my life...and never betray the Party', are understood to have jobs in British consulates

Loyal members of the Chinese Communist Party are working in British consulates, universities and for some of the UK's leading companies, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

An extraordinary leaked database of 1.95 million registered party members reveals how Beijing's malign influence now stretches into almost every corner of British life, including defence firms, banks and pharmaceutical giants.

Most alarmingly, some of its members – who swear a solemn oath to 'guard Party secrets, be loyal to the Party, work hard, fight for communism throughout my life...and never betray the Party' – are understood to have secured jobs in British consulates.

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- This is a huge article. Recommend going to the Daily Mail website.
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This is a British intelligence product being spread as 'news'. It's fake news: 'Russiagate Redux: This Time It's Slanty-Eyed'. The tragedy of it is that it's eaten up by those willing Trump to victory against... the very same forces that are spreading this garbage.

Their China-envy stems from the fact that they can't accept the reality of the New Eurasian Century and its model of win-win cooperation (yeah I know, the concept in practice is far from utopian) vs the status quo of hyper-aggressive, hegemonic, unipolar dominance.

Zoom out and look at the big picture: the most likely reason the Western lockdowns are so severe is to enforce the 'great reset', which, behind the fancy words, is an effort by the Western Order to consolidate its 'realm' and concentrate economic firepower with which to compete against China.

Sars-Cov-2 is not 'the Chinese virus'. China initially panicked, we now know, because it figured out that the virus being found in Wuhan patients was man-made. Covid-19 since then is purely a 'casedemic', in that it would not exist without massive artificial distortion and disinformation. Both the Western elites' madness in endorsing this stratagem, and the Western masses' madness in buying the lie and panicking over the phantasm, are symptomatic of the hegemon losing its sh*t over the encroaching reality of losing its 'exceptionalist' hold on the planet.

So yes, in a sense, China has everything to do with the stolen US election - not because the 'ChiComs' stole it on Biden's behalf, but because if the Western Order loses Trump's America to 'nationalist isolation', then China - as the globalists see it - 'wins'. They NEED to maintain the Empire, and as everyone across the West has personally experienced this year, they will do it by embracing genocide and tyranny if they must.
 
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