Fifth Way said:
It was like this:
I had just stepped off a trans-continental flight, arriving back at home after a 14-hour travel with my two kids and having been away for many weeks. While I was gone construction had been going on outside, next door and workers had put play wood on my terrace that had gotten all wet and molded during my absence. The place stank like a landfill. I also brought half a foot of mail upstairs. So with other words, I was extremely exhausted and in a rather foul mood.
Seems you're always 'exhausted and in a foul mood'. At least this excuse is better than the usual one citing email problems.
Fifth Way said:
I fired up my computer, look at emails and checked FB. Here I noticed a new post on my Psychopathy group. The fact that there was a new post to begin with bothered me already in my foul mood. I was angry with myself because I wanted to shut this group down since a while but hadn’t done so. In the past a number of times some “FB-friends” - but really strangers - had posted unrelated stuff on that group and I had kept deleting it. The reason why I hadn’t deleted the group already was simply because I could not figure out how (there is no simple delete function). But then again it was never a priority either as I was busy with other things. I just never spend the time to figure it out.
These issues are never a priority with you because they don't serve your interests. You know right from wrong yet you never make a move to completely rectify a situation if it's in the best interests of others but rather seem to consistently seek to serve self.
Fifth Way said:
I looked at the link and scanned through the article and though “What????” I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Having been subject to serious scrutiny by this group myself six months ago and considering my overall mood, I admittedly questioned the validity of this article at that time. However, I do not anymore. But I did not make my final judgment that day. I wanted to read through it there and then but my head was just too scrambled. I could not concentrate. I also noticed that there was a link to the forum-thread that I followed and of course I was overwhelmed by the amount that had already been written. So I thought: “I’m not going to deal with this right now.” And: “Who is Robin Xxxxxxxxx?” And: “I need to close this group.” And: “I’m taking this article off. When I have the time to really look into it I can always repost it later on my personal wall or not.”
Most people who had undergone the same 'serious scrutiny' you had would have scrambled to do whatever it took to set things straight. That is, if what was said to them had any worth whatsoever.
Fifth Way said:
I did not get around to catch up with all the reading in time. Next day I get this PM from Robin, who seemed offended that I dared to remove her post on my group. She gave herself the air of respectfulness (“I am writing this PM to respectfully ask why you removed the article and what were your reasons for its removal, besides the fact that you are the admin and well within your right to do so. “) …but I do not think it was truthful as she wasted no time (one day) to start this thread. Barely time enough for me to respond. Could it be that Robin’s pride was hurt and this thread was some form of retaliation?
Or is it that you don't like people in general and women in particular telling you or 'it' no? That is, of course, assuming that there are two.
Fifth Way said:
So I’m thinking: “Oh, great, that was obviously the wrong decision yesterday.” And my next thought was again: “How can I close this damn group?”
I looked again at all the FB settings but only found one to set the group to secret. I did that as a temporary solution and then I sent Robin my truthful answer which as been quoted earlier in this thread.
Or stalling until you could think of a way out of this latest mess?
Fifth Way said:
Then somebody immediately asked on the group: “Why is this set to secret now? I thought you want to inform people???” …I am paraphrasing.
So I googled “How to shut down a FB group?” Turns out one has to delete every single member individually (in this case many, many hundreds), while making sure one does not delete oneself (the admin) by mistake because then the group will exist forever! Not unlike the Kickstarter Campaign page, which apparently cannot be deleted at all.
I deleted all members one by one and last me. It took forever.
Which would point to one of several possible reasons why the page remained up in the first place - to retain an audience for any future endeavors. It didn't serve you to have to start from scratch.
Fifth Way said:
But to find out what this nasty rumor was all about I went on the forum and searched for my name and voila; I find this thread. …And all the other places where my full real name pops up including Sheridan’s thread as well, with all those nice assumptions that this vile, penis obsessed person, that only stepped into the limelight less than a year ago with his book, and I, known in this group for 8 years, are “most likely” in bed together planning some kind of “Hollywood-revenge” on this group. I am paraphrasing again. The sheer patheticness of this idea really floored me.
For your information: I have no desires for revenge. I haven’t even been thinking of my project cancellation nor Sheridan for many months and I have no ties with him whatsoever and never had.
Perhaps the idea of revenge comes up because it's what you have been known to do? In my personal experience (as of January of this year, I'd known Alexander for approximately 1 year and 3 months), whenever someone tells you no, it seems there is usually hell to pay.
Fifth Way said:
Anyway, I then went on to the Forum-group-settings to set them to notify me so I can follow what’s going on in this thread. When I looked later in my notification-folder I saw that there was also a response on the private section of this forum on a thread that I started last winter. I wanted to look at it but oops; I got an error message:
“An Error Has Occurred! The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.”
And since I cannot see the private section anymore it is clear that I have been kicked out of that part of the forum too. I also noticed that I have been bumped from another off-forum yahoo group, related to EE.
Quite frankly, I never understood why you didn't remove yourself to begin with. The only time you seem to post is when situations like these pop up.
Interesting how you write the above - as if to make others think you were arbitrarily removed through no fault of your own. While there's not much I can speak to that situation as it does involve others, I will say that it was by your own admission back in January, that you no longer wanted to be involved when you found you could no longer use it to serve your ego. It is my opinion alone that, that decision was made by you due to narcissitic rage - in other words, sour grapes. It was the generosity and willingness to give you the benefit of the doubt by the group at large that allowed you to continue on. Unfortunately because you lack the ability to value benevolence and seem to take it as a sign of weakness and/or permission to do what 'it' likes, you use any and every situation to play the victim.
Fifth Way said:
With all due respect Anart: Yes, l do find it unreasonable and completely disproportional to my alleged offence.
Lets put this into perspective: I have promoted hundreds if not thousands of articles from sott over the eight years that I am member here and I still do it all the time. And I have publicly declared my complete and unfaltering support for this group over and over again (unlike many others with my real name on it http://cassiopaea-cult.com/statement-of-alexander-davidis-film-director-writer-producer/). I supported this group with words, with money, with actions and with long hard labor for years.
So I didn’t get it right all the time, or maybe even most of the time. Okay. I did and I am doing the best I can. If that is not enough for you, sorry. I have a fully packed life with thousands of problems of my own, just like everybody else and no time to spare.
Yet others find the time to do the Work. Others don't try to use every opportunity to get over and serve the self. Others remain in the fire and attempt to grow something real within themselves instead of consistently giving in to the smallest part of themselves which for me begs the question, why do you stay? I'm genuinely asking this.
Fifth Way said:
I find it unreasonable that because one person appears to be offended that I dared not to promote one specific sott article that she felt entitled to posted on my wall, that that same person is ousting me now as the potential next big disinformation agent. That a number of you can’t wait to jump on board and suggest that I am most likely colluding against this group with someone who seems to be (as it looks now) a sexual predator. That you go on and bump me off various private groups.
If you think this is simply about this last situation then you are sadly mistaken. This is about the culmination of all that has come to pass.
Fifth Way said:
This is a public forum and if one googles my name (which many people do as I work with many different people all over the world) this thread with my real name in it, pops up not so far down the list.
So nobody exerts enough external consideration to realize that this may create damage in my life and/or for my work? Or is it that since I am a Persona non grata, everything is allowed anyway?
Do you ever consider the damage you create in the lives of others? Or does it only matter when you're the one having difficulties?
Fifth Way said:
I understand the general concern about disinfo agents. I know what you all have been going through. And thrown in my narcissism and all the many mistakes I made and wrong judgments – I get it. But I still find this over the top.
It is perfectly okay for me to decide myself what to promote from sott and what not. I trusted this group blindly in the past. But I learned that no group is infallible by default. I will continue to double check facts myself and make up my own final judgments which ever way that ends up to be. And if I am wrong, so be it.
You've been trusting your own judgement for a long time now and from where I sit, it's gotten you into nothing but a world of trouble. While everyone is free and, in fact, encouraged to make their own choices, yours seem to consistanly lead you down the wrong path.
Fifth Way said:
I like to share the fact that as a result of all the suspicions and accusations six month ago, regarding my alleged “shady business dealings” (and which not check out) I have still an unpaid $2k+ accountant’s bill here on my desk that I run up trying to defend myself. Money I would have rather given to the QFG (which is what I planed at the time) than to give it to my accountants.
For someone living in the neighborhood and in particular, the apartment you do, you certainly cry poverty a lot. Many people in that position consider downsizing their life. That usually means a cheaper apartment that doesn't include a wraparound terrace and fireplace. In other words, they don't try to live a champagne lifestyle on a beer budget.
Fifth Way said:
Now don’t get me wrong. I know that I got myself into it. But I have faced the consequences and stopped the fundraising project and abundant the doc idea. I have canceled it and told people publicly why that was. I can look in the mirror without shame.
At this point, it's difficult for me to believe what you say. As always, with time, the truth will out.
Fifth Way said:
At this present time, in my mind this project is canceled. And I haven’t thought about picking it up again since. But the future is open. Filmmaking is my profession. So I will not guaranty anybody that I will never ever do anything on this subject again. That too will be my decision to make.
While filmmaking may be your profession, it's not your life and the people around you aren't pa's (production assistants) or worse yet, interns. Your life isn't one big production and it's not your right to treat others as if they are less than. Other people's lives aren't all about you.
Fifth Way said:
The trailer: Yes, I actually did forget about it, because I am not thinking of this project.
And I will leave it up as I think it is good information that helps a lot of people to understand the very basics. However, just now, I took out the tag line at the end: “The Shocking New Documentary Arrives 2012” as that tag line is obviously outdate. YouTube tells me it will take some time before the changes will be visible online.
As always, we'll come to see if this is true.