Algerian and Morrocan Descendants and Immigrant Protests/Riots in France

A journalist reports on the immediate court appearances of the thugs arrested in recent nights:
Their names are Si Dina, Melvin, Adel, Dani, Yannis, Aimé Celeste and Walid.
No minors, referred to another court. Today's defendants speak little or nothing. They were all apprehended the night before, at the scene of the riots, in the Hauts-de-Seine department which borders the French capital. But with a few rare exceptions, they will be released on Sunday. Convicted or summoned to appear again, but free. Only one of them received a prison sentence before my very eyes, with immediate incarceration. The others? Placement under judicial supervision, various prohibitions, community service or acquittal. With, often, new summonses because of poorly prepared files, botched reports, criminal records not updated...
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Ils se prénomment Si Dina, Melvin, Adel, Dani, Yannis, Aimé Celeste, Walid.
Pas de mineurs, déférés devant un autre tribunal. Les prévenus d’aujourd’hui ne parlent pas, ou peu. Ils ont tous été appréhendés la nuit précédente, sur les lieux des émeutes, dans le département des Hauts-de-Seine qui jouxte la capitale française. Mais à de rares exceptions, ils repartiront libres ce dimanche. Condamnés ou convoqués pour une nouvelle comparution, mais libres. Un seul a écopé sous mes yeux d’une peine de prison ferme avec incarcération immédiate. Les autres? Placements sous contrôle judiciaires, interdictions diverses, travaux d’intérêts généraux ou relaxe. Avec, souvent, de nouvelles convocations en raison de dossiers mal ficelés, de procès-verbaux bâclés, de casiers judiciaires pas mis à jour…
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Alejo said:
60% have no prior criminal record (I guess now they do), but that means that 40% of them do.. which is 1280 criminals loose on the street creating havoc, at least those that have been arrested.

Not sure if I have ever heard of such a young crowd making such a mess in recent years, though I could be wrong.

Which I thought it was an interesting stat to ponder about, the caos brought out thousands of criminal mind individuals only seeking to take advantage of it.
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Thanks for the stats because I was wondering about this issue of the criminally minded using a legitimate grievance and protest as a means of doing all the antisocial activities they usually can only dream of doing. Much like the Antifa types have done in the states during the BLM riots.

Perhaps the younger ones who've been arrested so far without a prior record were of a similar psychopathological type and this opportunity to engage in antisocial behaviors arose before they could engage in more petty crimes like theft and the like to give them a prior record. Though there's likely to be a number too who got swept up by the heightened energy and wouldn't engage with society in a destructive way in normal conditions.

Hard to say how pervasive is the pathological element in these types of riots, but having this information and perspective is certainly useful and protective against painting everyone with the same broad brush.
 
The psychology of protests or riots (sometimes the difference is blurry) is a psychology of heterogeneous crowds. When I was at high school and then at the university, there were many protests. The majority of the protestors didn't know what the protests were about, it's just about having "some action". Teenagers are very susceptible to the "it's chaos, it's a zombie apocalypse, let's get wild" excitement. Within the chaos, there are those who have very calculated goals and actions, among them are provocation (agents provocateurs from police or antifa or whatever organization), some have criminal pulses to unleash (for example, a doctor told me recently that during protests lots of people are stabbed randomly by other protestors, with no reason), and some find it... fun... There is a reason people like zombie movies where you can kill zombies (dehumanized others?) at will... and get free food in abandoned supermarkets!
Usually, the most dangerous elements in riots are not arrested, they have more experience in being furtive and in disappearing at the right time (criminals or agents). The majority of those arrested are those who are taken in by the dyonisian excitement of the moment, usually taken by the general frenzy (the individual succombs to the collective). That's my experience of these phenomena anyway.
 
mkrnhr said:
The psychology of protests or riots (sometimes the difference is blurry) is a psychology of heterogeneous crowds. When I was at high school and then at the university, there were many protests. The majority of the protestors didn't know what the protests were about, it's just about having "some action". Teenagers are very susceptible to the "it's chaos, it's a zombie apocalypse, let's get wild" excitement. Within the chaos, there are those who have very calculated goals and actions, among them are provocation (agents provocateurs from police or antifa or whatever organization), some have criminal pulses to unleash (for example, a doctor told me recently that during protests lots of people are stabbed randomly by other protestors, with no reason), and some find it... fun... There is a reason people like zombie movies where you can kill zombies (dehumanized others?) at will... and get free food in abandoned supermarkets!
Usually, the most dangerous elements in riots are not arrested, they have more experience in being furtive and in disappearing at the right time (criminals or agents). The majority of those arrested are those who are taken in by the dyonisian excitement of the moment, usually taken by the general frenzy (the individual succombs to the collective). That's my experience of these phenomena anyway.
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Yeah but a normal individual have some limits wired in the brain. Here, if nothing had stopped them they would certainly still looting and burning everything close at hand, turning themself fully STS as far as they can. And that, in the country they live in. It's not very sustainable.

I guess a powerful egregor was created to manipulate them. That lead to the question of behind able to stop such forces trying to take control of yourself.
 
Ellipse said:
Yeah but a normal individual have some limits wired in the brain. Here, if nothing had stopped them they would certainly still looting and burning everything close at hand, turning themself fully STS as far as they can. And that, in the country they live in. It's not very sustainable.

I guess a powerful egregor was created to manipulate them. That lead to the question of behind able to stop such forces trying to take control of yourself.
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It depends on how one defines a normal individual. The limits in the brain are set by culture, education, and most importantly by psychological maturity. Society in general has been programmed over the decades for hedonism, instant-gratification, entitlement, and victim mentality. Specifically in these urban ghettos, one may add gangster and drugs culture. These ghettos are cauldrons of social-engineering. Maybe the teenager who's been killed, the son of a single mother who describes him as her "best friend" (heard that from one source but I don't have evidence) is a poster-child of this post-modern atomized society.
 
A Jay said:
Perhaps the younger ones who've been arrested so far without a prior record were of a similar psychopathological type and this opportunity to engage in antisocial behaviors arose before they could engage in more petty crimes like theft and the like to give them a prior record. Though there's likely to be a number too who got swept up by the heightened energy and wouldn't engage with society in a destructive way in normal conditions.
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I was also thinking of the roles of spellbinders and inspiring figures in the way the events turned out, essentially how people take advantage of the events and the young crowd's gullibility and impressionability to drag them into precisely this level of criminality.

I am thinking of Lobaczewski and poenology, how these types of events, when scaled up to a macro social level, well you'd get nazi Germany. But I was also thinking about political figures essentially inciting this very type of behavior, I remember a representative in the US, and maybe even Harris, completely backing BLM and their riots, and even "using" them as a weapon or a threat, saying things like "this will continue to happen if things don't change".
 
Marine Le Pen receives rounding applause from her constituents while the BBC promotes the polar opposite.
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We hear a lot of nonsense. Tourism is going well, there are no waves of cancellations"The tourist activity impacted by the riots? Minister Olivia Grégoire wants to be reassuring. #Les4V @oliviagregoire
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Well, let's see...everything is fine in France... I admit that if I were a foreigner, #France wouldn't be my first destination, and that's a shame, with all these very diverse landscapes.
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What a big see VERY BIG liar 🤥 she does not even believe herself in her sleeve effects….!!! Incapable one day, always incapable
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Le milliard de dégâts en vue. Les assureurs assurent faire un geste. - Insolentiae

Le ministre de l’Economie, Bruno Le Maire, a annoncé (triomphant comme toujours) mardi des mesures en concertation avec les assureurs à destination des commerçants victimes de dégradations lors des émeutes, à l’occasion d’une visite à Arpajon (Essone), alors que l’accalmie se poursuit dans les...
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Le milliard de dégâts en vue. Les assureurs assurent faire un geste.
Le ministre de l’Economie, Bruno Le Maire, a annoncé (triomphant comme toujours) mardi des mesures en concertation avec les assureurs à destination des commerçants victimes de dégradations lors des émeutes, à l’occasion d’une visite à Arpajon (Essone), alors que l’accalmie se poursuit dans les rues françaises. « Nous avons pris la décision que, pour les commerçants les plus touchés, nous pourrions considérer des annulations de charges sociales et fiscales », a indiqué le ministre de l’Economie....

The billion damage in sight. Insurers claim to make a move.
The Minister of the Economy, Bruno Le Maire, announced (triumphant as always) on Tuesday measures in consultation with insurers for traders who were victims of damage during the riots, during a visit to Arpajon (Essone) , as the lull continues on the streets of France. “We have taken the decision that, for the most affected traders, we could consider cancellations of social and tax charges”, indicated the Minister of the Economy....
 
Vulcan59 said:
FWIW an article arguing that it's the American Empire behind the scenes that is the cause of the rioting in France.

alexkrainer.substack.com

France under attack

The pawns are fighting in the streets of France, but the war is between France and the Anglo-American Empire.
alexkrainer.substack.com alexkrainer.substack.com
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merci for the good article.
ah, la perfide albion, as i have learned at school.
what is missing right now in france is a new general de gaulle... have you noted that de gaulle was coordinating la france libre from his quarters in london, but was opposed to the uk joining the eu. he learned his lesson and implemented it also with ejecting nato from fontainebleau and recovering some gold from fort knok. really, un grand homme...
 
PERLOU said:
www.bvoltaire.fr

La cagnotte du policier incarcéré explose : un signe du ras-le-bol des Français - Boulevard Voltaire

L'opinion publique estime que ce policier est un bouc émissaire.
www.bvoltaire.fr www.bvoltaire.fr
La cagnotte du policier incarcéré explose : un signe du ras-le-bol des Français
Par Philippe Kerlouan - L’opinion publique estime que ce policier est un bouc émissaire.

The incarcerated policeman's kitty explodes: a sign of the fed up of the French
By Philippe Kerlouan - Public opinion considers this policeman to be a scapegoat.
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I found this one interesting. The division is manufactured, but the support the policeman is getting runs contrary to what the MSM claim, eh?
 
MK Scarlett said:
According to this article published at 17:27 PM and modified at 19:20 PM (French hour) in Le Parisien, the Nahel's family has now three lawyers: Abdelmadjid Benamara, Jennifer Cambla and Yassine Bouzrou.

Does a "normal" family can have 3 criminal lawyers just some hours after the "crime"?

Do all three lawyers have such hubris that they had to "jump" on the case, and made the announce (just before 5:00 PM) that they were lawyers for Nahel's family, approximatively at the same time the 1st tensions/riots occurred in Nanterre, as the first bin fires were reported around 5:00 PM, before to spread out on the cities around during that night and further in the country the following night? Maybe.
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Yeah, pretty crazy. And the lawyer/actor is just... wow. They don't even hide that stuff anymore.
 
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